vg|2015 Vanderbilt R16A,Segment 2 of 4,I,16,30,Kasle,31,Diamond,41| rs|3NE+1,3NW=,3NN+4,3NN+4,4HW+1,4HE+1,3HW-1,2CW-1,4HE+1,4HE+1,4HN-1,4HN-1,3DN=,2HS+1,4HW+1,4HE+1,2DN-3,3NEx-4,4SW=,4SW-1,1NE-1,2CE-2,4DS-1,2SN=,3SE-1,2HN-1,,4SN+1,3CW=,3CW-1| pn|Van Lankfe,Hampson,Ven Den Bo,Greco,Wold,Kozlove,Jacobus,Kasle|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAQ4HKT82DJ4C7632,SKT9HJ53D8762CK54,S7653HQ76DQT95CT9,SJ82HA94DAK3CAQJ8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Hello All! Play started rapidly!|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SAQ4HKT82DJ4C7632,SKT9HJ53D8762CK54,S7653HQ76DQT95CT9,SJ82HA94DAK3CAQJ8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|Vugraphzff: The second quarter is underway|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAJH96DA93CJT8432,SQT92HJT52D864CQ6,SK64HKQ4DQJT7CAK7,S8753HA873DK52C95|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Greco requesting Director ruling from 1st Quarter|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Hampson asking for CC and studying|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|cJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s2|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|mc|13|nt|Vugraphzfd: SOrry, I missed N's discard of the @h earlier, so all tricks made|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAJH96DA93CJT8432,SQT92HJT52D864CQ6,SK64HKQ4DQJT7CAK7,S8753HA873DK52C95|sv|o|mb|1C!|an|16+ art|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|cJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|sT|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SJ5HJ62DA532CAQT3,SAKT932HAQ75D7CK8,SQ76H3DKQT64C9742,S84HKT984DJ98CJ65|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|r|nt|Vugraphzfd: N discarded @h Q and not @dQ earlier in hand 17|pg|| mb|2D|nt|wstuart: South;s going to regret reopening if east bids 2@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Server very very slow, sorry|pg|| pc|dK|nt|wstuart: No tip, call the manager. :)|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|hK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|c2|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SJ5HJ62DA532CAQT3,SAKT932HAQ75D7CK8,SQ76H3DKQT64C9742,S84HKT984DJ98CJ65|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|can be 2|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|dT|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S65HKJ64DT85CJ962,SKQT7HQ8D64CAKT83,SJ832HA9DAQ9CQ754,SA94HT7532DKJ732C|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|Xfer|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Sorry, can't see written explanations :(|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Players can't talk to each other|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|Henryb: I think 2@s was the start of an invitation; 2N said min, no @h fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Henryb: 3@d was natural, nf|pg|| pc|c4|nt|wstuart: 2@S likely a relay to 2NT showing some inv 5-5; 2NT semi-forced and 3@D was nonforcing with 5-5 reds I think.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Henryb: you may well be right, Wayne|pg|| nt|wstuart: That's the way I usually play it, anyway.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Appears to be as Wayne said|pg|| nt|wstuart: Note the 1NT-2@D; 2@H-2@S; 2NT-3@H is inv with 5-5 majors.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Hampson puts his cards down, video is still on I think|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|nt|wstuart: Please welcome Bob Thomson, 3 time national champion ( one of my regular partners).|pg|| nt|wstuart: He's so lucky :)|pg|| nt|BobThomson: Hello, everyone|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Hampson asking about lead conventions after the first trick, answer is low likes it, not count|pg|| nt|wstuart: Hi Bob. I hear you've been having a heat wave in Calif.|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|d7|nt|BobThomson: Yeah, we need folks on the East Coast to mail us all their snow!|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|wstuart: You need the water too.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|h2|pc|c9|pg|| nt|BobThomson: Desperately - they're going to ration us this year.|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|h3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfd: Lankfeld shows his hand|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S65HKJ64DT85CJ962,SKQT7HQ8D64CAKT83,SJ832HA9DAQ9CQ754,SA94HT7532DKJ732C|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzff: Interesting bid|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|c3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|c6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|c9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| mc|7|nt|Vugraphzff: yes he bid 2c..was confused about 2 way NMF|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SK86HT9DQT96CAT72,SQJT3HK76DK5CQ653,S952H843D842CJ984,SA74HAQJ52DAJ73CK|sv|b|nt|wstuart: Food prices all over the country are goign to go up - LA is going to siphon off a lot more of the San Joaquin river now and kill off all the crop production in the valley.|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|4th S|nt|wstuart: It may look odd to open that last hand with 1NT, but especially when playing a strong @C system, getting that balanced hand with 5@C out of your 2@C opening is a very good move.|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Greco pondering deeply|pg|| nt|wstuart: Not sure of the EW methods here, but 3@H is forcing and I think 3NT by east would have been cooperative towards a @H slam- I'm not sure of this though.|pg|| nt|wstuart: 3NT by west as coop I mean|pg|| nt|BobThomson: Slam is not too bad, but it won't make with the spade king offside|pg|| nt|BobThomson: Unless, of course, South leads the king of spades...|pg|| nt|wstuart: even a low @S will do him in if decl guesses to endplay him then.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Room is very quiet except for screen doors up and down, ballroom door slams whenever anyone come in or leaves|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: One player at another table having unfortunate coughing fit . . . no comments, please :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Very reluctant P by Greco|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Greco "We play serious 3NT, right" H "Yes|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|nt|wstuart: lol - I assume this is in reference to the Elinescu-Wladow scandal from 2 years ago.|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cA|mc|11|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SK86HT9DQT96CAT72,SQJT3HK76DK5CQ653,S952H843D842CJ984,SA74HAQJ52DAJ73CK|sv|b|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzff: psuedo science :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|jkdood: Hello all welcome|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|jkdood: The 2@C bid last deal seems like some sort of XYZ convention (which resembles new minor forcing) misunderstanding|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|jkdood: WIth no game realistically available, the damage will not be too severe, but a few imp loss is likely|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|jkdood: 4@H here by EW looks normal and a likely plus score|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg|| nt|jkdood: One of the issues with XYZ agreement (and similar conventions) is both memory, and knowing exactly when it applies.|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SK43HAJ84DQT63C86,SJ985H62DAK5CJ974,SQT6HKQT973D42CAT,SA72H5DJ987CKQ532|sv|n|nt|wstuart: Ah, I guessed right about the meaning of 3NT over 3@H|pg|| mb|2H!|an|10-13|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: Game is hopeless - can they aboid it? (no)|pg|| mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| nt|wstuart: ANy remote chances for a def slip are put away by the @C lead.|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c5|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cT|nt|Vugraphzfd: Pepsi unhappy in Polish at next table |pg|| nt|wstuart: I assume west's @C play here will be a suit pref signal to help east who probably can't afforc to duck the @CT.|pg|| nt|wstuart: I'm assuming EW are playing upside down suit pref signals? Anyone know for sure?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: I believe so, Wayne|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfd: Hampson shows @dAK|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SK43HAJ84DQT63C86,SJ985H62DAK5CJ974,SQT6HKQT973D42CAT,SA72H5DJ987CKQ532|sv|n|nt|jkdood: A seasoned pair like the one here will put the issue aside and focus on the next hand very quickly, tough to do but good players can do that when required.|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2N|an|LR|nt|jkdood: NS should reach a @H partial here, but game seems a real reach|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: 2N over a double is called Jordan 2NT, usually shows a limit riase (W 4+ TRUMP) or better|pg|| nt|dburn: West might take a swing at this, I suppose|pg|| nt|jkdood: In this case South was minimum and could have passed 3@H, as we see N went right to game however. It will not be a great choice I think|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzff: No X|pg|| nt|jkdood: Welcome David Burn!|pg|| nt|dburn: hello|pg|| pc|cK|nt|dburn: the guideline for doubling a game is "are they more likely to go down two than to make?"|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|jkdood: The rather clear and best lead should scuttle this aggressive game attempt|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| nt|jkdood: At this Vul North's bid is not really a 2way bid, as it would be if the vul was reversed; he really expects a make|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| mc|9|nt|dburn: well, no less an authority than Jeff Meckstroth says that when partner volunteers support for your six-card major, you bid game|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4S86HA42DAJ4CA9863,SAK7543HK9D52C542,SJT9HJT863DKQ73CK,SQ2HQ75DT986CQJT7|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|10-13|mb|2S|mb|d!|an|TO|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Server keeps freezing my screen same with another Op, sorry :(|pg|| nt|BobThomson: Me, too|pg|| nt|wstuart: This might prove a bit tricky if the def leads @S every time they are in.|pg|| nt|wstuart: I use the old Windoze interface and it's seemed to be fine.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|nt|Vugraphzfd: Pepsi's partner has bad cold at next talble|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d7|mc|9|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4S86HA42DAJ4CA9863,SAK7543HK9D52C542,SJT9HJT863DKQ73CK,SQ2HQ75DT986CQJT7|sv|e|nt|jkdood: The 2@C "acident" was also a down 2 in a more resonable contract 3@H in other room, so NO IMPS LOST. whew.|pg|| nt|jkdood: That was board 19|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|an|can be 2|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Of course Jeff is now on the sidelines right now due to being upset by Kozlove, but his trophies could fill ballrooms|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|dburn: indeed - that was a fine effort by the Kasle team, and they have another big scalp in their sights here|pg|| nt|jkdood: The Vul inhibited Kozliove from a somewhat appealing 2@S call... some would try it I think|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: short bathroom break|pg|| nt|jkdood: The Larry Cohen (total trumps/2level) approach might convince some to compete|pg|| nt|dburn: or long bathroom break, depending ony how many miles it is to the bathroom|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Jacobus has accompanied Kasle to the restroom|pg|| nt|jkdood: Yes, we have heard that many have to take a sleeping bag there when they use the potty|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Not too far on this floor...3rd floor is horrible|pg|| nt|jkdood: Due to a very unexpected high attendance, some rooms are overflowing and hard to navigate|pg|| nt|jkdood: Thanks to our esteemed VuOp for great service and also insights:)|pg|| nt|jkdood: 4@H NS is a rather neat contract here, if reached|pg|| nt|jkdood: 3 rounds of spades only way to beat it?|pg|| nt|jkdood: And they can get tangled up with one having Qx@S|pg|| nt|dburn: well, I suppose you could play two rounds, then shift, then play a third when you get in with @hK|pg|| nt|jkdood: South needs the @H 8 to survive I think|pg|| nt|jkdood: Nope then @H are 2-2 and collapse. so not easy|pg|| nt|dburn: but maybe dummy could pitch a spade on a club to counter that, so leading three spades may be necessary|pg|| nt|jkdood: Of course 2@H will make easily, discussing 4H fills batrhroom break time :)|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|jkdood: Meckwell, and others, might easily reach 4@H though.... its not that big a stretch of bidding|pg|| nt|dburn: the trumps may be 2-2 after East ruffs a spade, but whatever he ruffs it with will promote a second trump trick|pg|| nt|jkdood: Sp as David points out, @DAK and a third, even with the @SJ now high, will set 4|pg|| nt|jkdood: i meant AK@S|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|dburn: so will a diamond, in a funny sort of way|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|sJ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|jkdood: The play in 2@H will differ for safety reasons, in 4@H though declarer may try a pitch of third spade on a @C after this very start|pg|| nt|dburn: declarer has to cross back in diamonds to pitch a spade on @cA, but then West ducks a low heart to East's queen and East gives West a diamond ruff|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| mc|9|nt|jkdood: Kasle's @D shift was definitely best then|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1S62H82DJ943CAQ974,SKQ8754HJT5DA75CJ,SJT93HA4DKT2CK652,SAHKQ9763DQ86CT83|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|6+ H Inv|nt|wstuart: well, the bloodbath from the first quarter has certainly stopped here in the 2nd.|pg|| mb|d|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|Vugraphzfd: Diff leads in Ptr's suit|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|wstuart: That would be Michael Kwicien?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Yes, Wayne :)|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|h9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|hA|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1S62H82DJ943CAQ974,SKQ8754HJT5DA75CJ,SJT93HA4DKT2CK652,SAHKQ9763DQ86CT83|sv|b|mb|p|nt|jkdood: The @CQJT must have looked tempting|pg|| nt|jkdood: SO a potential swing if the other room reaches 4 when they play it in a few minutes|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|jkdood: EW make 4@H rather straightforward here, with @D K behaving as well as other aspects|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|dburn: perhaps West was planning to jump to 4@h after rebidding 2@s, but Kasle's 3@h rather crossed him up - now, he couldn't jump to show his decent suport|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jkdood: Declarer will consider trump could be 3-1 and have some worries, but all roads seem to prosper, and of course they are 2-2 @H|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h9|nt|dburn: but still, he didn't have enough to do more than 4@h at his third turn despite having a better hand for hearts than his partner would expect|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|jkdood: If David is suggesting the 2@S bid is a bit perplexing as a rebid, I would agree.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| mc|11|nt|dburn: oh, it could have worked out better - if partner had bid 2NT or three of a minor, a jump to 4@h would be a good description|pg|| nt|jkdood: 2@H is invariably 5+, while 2@C (and even 2@D) may some days be less|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2S54H9763D72CKQ943,SKT876HKQ4DAK64CA,SAQJ2HA8DJT93CT62,S93HJT52DQ85CJ875|sv|o|mb|1C!|an|Prec|mb|2D!|an|D = S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Hampson may smell a rat?|pg|| mb|p|nt|BobThomson: North has found a way to keep EW out of their normal 2S contract|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Vugraphzfd: N chuckling "Thank you"|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| nt|BobThomson: At the other table, Jacobus made a lead-directing double of 3NT, and beat it four.|pg|| nt|wstuart: Bob and I play a @C system but one of the things I think is wrong is hyper-activity over the @C opening without an unblanaced hand.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|BobThomson: North is not paying full price here - had he been doubled, he'd have no place to go.|pg|| nt|BobThomson: Leading to -800 at both tables!|pg|| nt|wstuart: given the -800 at the other table his result almost doesn't matter|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|wstuart: -1600 would be 17 imps and -1000 is 14.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|d8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d9|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2S54H9763D72CKQ943,SKT876HKQ4DAK64CA,SAQJ2HA8DJT93CT62,S93HJT52DQ85CJ875|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|jkdood: 2/1 and similar styles has been the subject of much science in bidding discussions these days, the biggest point, have strong agreements!|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|jkdood: David, do you agree with the "steal a hand maybe" 1NT call here?|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|jkdood: It works best of course when partner is much weaker than this deal.|pg|| nt|dburn: certainly fashionable to respond on rhubarb nowadays, especially not vulnerable, but it doesn't always work out|pg|| mb|3N|mb|d|mb|p|nt|jkdood: When you upset Nickell and team, maybe rhubarb is the way to go? :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|dburn: but Kasle has shown some aggressive tendencies in this session doubling 1@h earlier on a 3=1=4=5 load of old rope|pg|| nt|jkdood: Jacobus doesnt like rhubarb apparently...|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|nt|jkdood: 9 tricks seem a long way away and I dont mean Tippeary|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|dburn: well, he has West's suits pretty much locked, and is on the same side of the screen as East - may have picked up some shifty look when Kasle bid 1NT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|jkdood: (takes guts to make such a comment in front of David Burn, I know)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|dburn: still, it was a very good piece of opportunism by Jacobus, and looks to be about to produce 800 from nowhere|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|jkdood: To David's point, the "poker face" or lack thereof, has a role, even behind screens, as these players are|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c9|nt|jkdood: On Board 21 the other room also reached 4@H after 2@H - 4@H, so down 1 was a push there|pg|| nt|dburn: in fact, nine tricks are pretty close - just not for the declaring side|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|s9|pg|| mc|5|nt|jkdood: A veteran like Jacobus can sometimes "smell" a pushy/stretch, and his nose gets well-rewarded today|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3STHJT4DAK9742CJT8,SAKQ873HAQDT3CA42,S965HK8753DQCQ973,SJ42H962DJ865CK65|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfd: Chuckling about the intervention N "I would be in trouble if you X'd"|pg|| nt|wstuart: Let's see, would N bid 2@C over 1@C on this one if he had the chance? :) (which he probably wont)|pg|| mb|2H!|an|M/m weak|mb|p|nt|wstuart: Little does he know that he lost 14 already.|pg|| nt|BobThomson: EW can make 3NT easily... 4S went down at the other table.|pg|| nt|wstuart: Well, these folks came to bid, that is for sure!|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wstuart: Pass may well be their most descriptive call because if they haven't bid something at some point they must be 4333 with 5 HCP. lol|pg|| nt|BobThomson: if North leads a heart, it's all over|pg|| nt|wstuart: If they have talked themselves into a @H lead they will be sad.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|nt|Vugraphzfd: S must play @d2 to show Cl's?|pg|| nt|wstuart: Yes, this is not a clear def.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h5|pc|d8|nt|Vugraphzfd: S must win last @c if discards a @d now?|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Hampson knows entire hand now|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c7|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| mc|10|nt|BobThomson: Nicely played|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Hampson did that incredibly saying "compound squeeze, easy" :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3STHJT4DAK9742CJT8,SAKQ873HAQDT3CA42,S965HK8753DQCQ973,SJ42H962DJ865CK65|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: That 800 will be a big gold star on the Wold Jacobus comparing-task with teammates|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|d|mb|r|an|Hearts|nt|jkdood: Any more comments about "noses" peeps, I will get my banning club out!!|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|jkdood: Kasle's pass after the redouble can "mean nothing" or also have implications that got the Wagar teams in trouble in the finals when there was some Misinformation-accused. Seasoned ...|pg|| nt|jkdood: pairs should have agreements here.|pg|| nt|jkdood: Ex: If East has OINE 4 card major, he should bid it, and pass with none, as here, but what to doi with 2 4card majors. Good to discuss.|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed, but the problems are somewhat compounded when redouble just shows hearts, not necessarily strength, as it does here|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|jkdood: 4@S seems doomed without help, such as a @H lead away from K|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: 3NT was the place to play, but that was not easy to organize|pg|| nt|jkdood: The @D J could be a salvation on certain developments, we shall see.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|jkdood: Many would avoid leading a singleton Q, works wrell here though. Jacobus is "hot" this spate of boards.|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|dburn: he may be OK in any case, though the play is not clear|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s8|nt|jkdood: Jacobus might need to unblock @CQ in some endings?|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|h5|pg|| nt|dburn: now he may|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jkdood: No real squeeze here, unless I am missing something, as South pitches behind dummy|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|d8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|h9|nt|jkdood: Jacobus @C end up being kept and needed|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4ST654HQDAKT5CQ762,SQ32H87D9864CK984,SAK8HJT962DJ72CJ3,SJ97HAK543DQ3CAT5|sv|b|mb|1N!|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hT|nt|Vugraphzfd: 2nd - Rusinow like stated|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|h8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Hampson left table, back with no tricks for his side, told the player doing dummy "Good Work!!" :) chuckling|pg|| pc|h4|pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c6|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pg|| mc|6|nt|Vugraphzfd: Nice squeeze by Greco|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4ST654HQDAKT5CQ762,SQ32H87D9864CK984,SAK8HJT962DJ72CJ3,SJ97HAK543DQ3CAT5|sv|b|nt|jkdood: The early @D was a big aid to the defense, well done to Jacobus|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: Kozlove. I really wanted to bid 3@D over 2@D...|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jkdood: There has been flat results on the scoreboard so far, but the 800 is due up soon, so Diamond's lead will zoom then.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Kozlove shows he like rhubarb as well... (1NT call)|pg|| nt|jkdood: Last rhubarb call ended in the 800 calamity|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|jkdood: With the awful @H break, this rhubarb did very well it seems|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c6|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c7|nt|jkdood: 2@C is not going down too much, but does seem doomed by that if no slip-ups|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|sT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|jkdood: 2@C may end -200, 1H as well if it went all pass|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|s6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S975H54DAK764CT72,S84HAKJT73D98CK43,SAKQ6H982DQJ53C95,SJT32HQ6DT2CAQJ86|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfd: S - squeeze better for undertrick than for -620|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|r!|an|8+?|mb|2D|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: i think RDBL = 4+@S|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Frozen screen|pg|| mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S975H54DAK764CT72,S84HAKJT73D98CK43,SAKQ6H982DQJ53C95,SJT32HQ6DT2CAQJ86|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|jkdood: On Board 24 where here the Kasle team went -800, they are in a 4-2 fit at the other table, also going minus. Score will change shortly.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| nt|jkdood: Diamond team will add about 13 imps as a result.|pg|| nt|dburn: and 25 is not positive for Kasle either - 3NT might be reached, or 4@s might be made (though the latter is very difficult)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|jkdood: But the @DQ lead (found here) gives Diamond a slight edge on Bd 25 if 4@S reached|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|dburn: actually, the diamond lead let the contract make - North had to lead a club|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| nt|jkdood: And 14 imps on the scoreboard now, increasing the lead to 26|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|sT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SA76HA83DAJCQ6532,SQT98HJDQT62CKT84,S53HQ9654D875CAJ7,SKJ42HKT72DK943C9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|d|mb|1H!|an|S's|mb|2H|mb|2S!|an|4|nt|ahollan1: RDBL consistent with 27 and CC which says over Opp Takeout DBL Transfers|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 4ft [DBL would show 3@S]|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Welcome from all other matches, very deliberate here|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|dburn: not the easiest of opening leads for South|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|nt|ahollan1: 1st halftime score posted to http://bridgewinners.com/|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|nt|dburn: but this defensive plan is OK|pg|| nt|dburn: and the Kasle team, who needed a rot-stopper, may pick up a few points here for going plus at both tables|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|nt|dburn: but that plan wasn't OK, though Greco didn't know it|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|sK|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SA76HA83DAJCQ6532,SQT98HJDQT62CKT84,S53HQ9654D875CAJ7,SKJ42HKT72DK943C9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|d|nt|jkdood: For anyone with doubts, when David Burn suggests @DQ lead then a @C shift results in an ending with 4@S making, I would save my cash and not take a losing bet against him:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|r|nt|jkdood: And the other room, now in 4@S, have found the same exact lead (@DQ)|pg|| nt|dburn: Kozlove not giving Kasle much leeway for his third-seat non-vulnerable opening - he's trying to get some spilt blood back|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|dburn: Kasle not cast in heroic mould this time, so didn't take a swing at 2@h|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| nt|dburn: just as well, because he probably can't beat it - he certainly couldn't beat it by giving away the trump position|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|nt|jkdood: Hampson declaring 4@S in other room now, running spades. Taking David Burns ending into reality soon.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| nt|dburn: well, he will still need to read the end position very well - but he's good at things like that|pg|| nt|jkdood: North opened 2@H there, so Hampson knows @H finesse will fail of course|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|h3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| mc|7|nt|dburn: but declarer, undoubled, is going for a straightforward line in trumps and is going down in consequence|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3ST6HAJT62D9CJT653,S542HQ9DKQT7642CA,SAKQJ83HK5DJ3CKQ8,S97H8743DA85C9742|sv|b|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|d|nt|jkdood: Opening 2N with a solid 6card major seems to be quite in fashion in recent years|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: 3N not a great spot with a @d lead, so Jacobus acted wisely|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|sT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jkdood: The complex ending in 4@S on Board 25 is taking several minutes of pondering discards and ending.... in other room, but 12 imps are available if it makes to Diamond team|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4ST864H8DKJ7632CQ4,SAKQ93HK63DA95C53,SJ75HAQJ74DQ4CA92,S2HT952DT8CKJT876|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: true -- but this is first Dutch pair i've seen playing the convention|pg|| mb|1C!|an|Prec|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: mostly played by Swedish pairs|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal 17+ bal|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: they must be Scandinavian after all - no young Dutchman would pass the South hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: usually NS use 2@C Multi - which includes weak 2@D opener|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: i thought that was going to happen here|pg|| nt|wstuart: That is the first hand thay have passed in the past 14 boards :)|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| nt|wstuart: (See bd 24 for example) lol|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|dT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|dburn: still, Hampson probably has enough information here...|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|dburn: ....he did|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| nt|dburn: but it would be a good idea for South to lead his partner's suit anyway, even though he can't get a ruff in it any more|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: @DK removed north's safest exit card|pg|| pc|c8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h7|mc|9|nt|wstuart: anything S played would end it|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Hampson brilliant this session!|pg|| nt|wstuart: thanks all.|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4ST864H8DKJ7632CQ4,SAKQ93HK63DA95C53,SJ75HAQJ74DQ4CA92,S2HT952DT8CKJT876|sv|o|nt|dburn: the slower they defend, the more likely declarer is to make, but it will still be a pretty good feat of cardplay if he manages it|pg|| mb|p|nt|jkdood: And Hampson got it right, well done (to him and David Burn), 12 imps to Diamond (Bd 25)|pg|| nt|dburn: meanwhile, Kozlove keeps getting good hands while his partner keeps getting rhubarb|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Opening 1NT witha 5card major, and 3 of the other major (in case of a transfer) is almost standard these days for experts|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|jkdood: 2N is Lebsenold... preparatory to "signing off" on 3level, but can also mean other things with certain followups|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|dburn: this time Kasle had a way to show his rhubarb, so he showed it and he stopped in a playable sopt - maybe not so easy after a 1@s opening and 2@h overcall|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|nt|dburn: but I think that South at the other table is a young Dutch player, so West might not get to open at all|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jkdood: After 1@S - 2@H, EW might do well just to go quietly....|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|c4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|dT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pc|s8|pg|| nt|dburn: he might be confronted by a 3@d opening or a patent convention popular in the Netherlands: 2@c weak with diamonds or any good hand|pg|| mc|8|nt|dburn: meanwhile, Kozlove took a normal line in 3@c and was stitched up by a rotten lie of the cards to go down one|pg|| pg||