vg|2015 Australian Open Team Selection,SF 2_4,I,17,32,LORENTZ,37,WILKINSON,34| rs|4CN=,3HW-2,3DEx-2,2HS=,4SNx-2,3DE+1,3NW+1,3NE=,4SW=,4SW=,6HN-1,4HS=,3NN+1,3NS+1,3NW+1,3DW+1,3HW-1,3CW+1,4SE+1,4SW+1,4SW=,2SW+2,4HW+2,4HW+3,2SN=,2SS=,6DW-3,3NW+2,5SWx-2,4SWx-3,3NW+1,3NW+1| pn|Hollands,Milne,Howard,Griffiths,Wilkinson,Lorentz,Ware,Burgess|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3ST974HJ8DAQJ98CA9,SAQ632HAT3D72CJ52,SK85HKQD5CKQT8763,SJH976542DKT643C4|sv|o|mb|1C|nt|stiffqueen: battle of the young guns in the open room|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|stiffqueen: i think Nye is the only one who's age starts with a 3|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: lol|pg|| mb|d|nt|vugrapha6: welcome to Phil Markey and Dave Beauchamp|pg|| nt|beauch: hi folks|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: hi Dave|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: Milne asking a lot of questions|pg|| nt|beauch: looks like nye griffiths has his bidding boots on|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: who do you fancy this match Beauchamp ?|pg|| mb|r|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|beauch: I reckon even money - hard to pick a winner|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: welcome to Mike Doecke|pg|| nt|wesleyc: hi all!|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: yeah i agree it is tough to pick a winner|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: i have to confess i am barracking for Wilkinson|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: Pete in the tank now|pg|| mb|p|nt|beauch: peter hollands and justin howard did very well in qualifying stages|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: 3nt going begging |pg|| mb|3H|nt|beauch: maybe north will shoot 3nt now?|pg|| mb|3N|nt|vugrapha6: not yet|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: he did indeed|pg|| nt|beauch: i expect east will bid 4@H now|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|stiffqueen: well i think run is ok now albeit wrong|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: a game of chicken|pg|| nt|beauch: east relieved - but maybe west will double?|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: well i like double - plainly north bidding 3nt on his way to 4 clubs|pg|| mb|p|nt|wesleyc: it feels better for Juz to redouble there and suggest doubt|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|fabsayc: is useful to play redouble as expressing doubt in this kind of situation|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|s7|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: given his pard passed 3 clubs everyone knew there was "doubt"|pg|| nt|fabsayc: lol, exactly|pg|| nt|wesleyc: which Pete with sharp values would be happy to pass|pg|| nt|beauch: as long as you have firm partnership agreements!|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: essentially redouble asks for fitting club|pg|| mc|10|nt|wesleyc: redouble would also pass the pressure onto nye|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3ST974HJ8DAQJ98CA9,SAQ632HAT3D72CJ52,SK85HKQD5CKQT8763,SJH976542DKT643C4|sv|o|nt|vugrapha2: welcome back: we have two young guns against a pair of "oldes"|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|vugrapha2: here we go already: 1@h = spades|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|vugrapha2: .. and 1@s = three|pg|| mb|2S|nt|vugrapha2: Even tho he is an "oldie" nBurgess still buds like a young gun!|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: bids ie.|pg|| mb|d|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: very funny we have a kiwi or 2 at the table|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: The young gun now bids like an oldie|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|h5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SKHAJ76DQT72CA653,SQ8643H843DKJ9CT9,SAT9752HKT9D5CJ72,SJHQ52DA8643CKQ84|sv|n|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|beauch: so if all the auctions like that one - plenty of excitement for specs|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2S|nt|beauch: and justin howard was listening|pg|| nt|wesleyc: gutsy 2S bid from Juz. perhaps he's worried that Milne might be messing around at the colours|pg|| nt|beauch: risky call|pg|| mb|3D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|beauch: not keen on easts action here|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|wesleyc: 3D seems very dubious if west could have only a doubleton diamond|pg|| nt|beauch: they play precision - so not sure how many@D west promised|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: this set will be "good" for spectators :)|pg|| nt|beauch: n/s pair play a very fast style of game - E/W the opposite|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: teams are here http://livebridge.net/bbo/abf/2015po.php?dsp=tms|pg|| pc|c4|nt|stiffqueen: good summary Dave|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|beauch: milne/griffiths recently had a great result -finished 9th in world open pairs|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| nt|wesleyc: it's common in precision for the 1D - 1S - 2C sequence to show 5/4 or 4/5 in the minors either way|pg|| pc|s5|nt|wesleyc: which increases the chance that 2D is a real fit|pg|| nt|beauch: looks like 2 down ?|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d9|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SKHAJ76DQT72CA653,SQ8643H843DKJ9CT9,SAT9752HKT9D5CJ72,SJHQ52DA8643CKQ84|sv|n|mb|1D|nt|vugrapha2: Burgess Lorentz play a strong Club system so 1@d = catch all opener|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|vugrapha2: This willbe a struggle but a likely make|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: sorry lost the play|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugrapha2: anyway he made on the knocker as predicted|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SK7HK87DT54CJT763,ST864HAJD876C9542,SAQJ952H953DJ2CAQ,S3HQT642DAKQ93CK8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|wesleyc: maybe 2S raise|pg|| mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|wesleyc: what's your choice on the east hand David?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|beauch: phil would yu bid 2S as east?|pg|| pc|d4|nt|stiffqueen: actually i bid ghestem 3c - auto|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: i suspect Liam didn't see the double|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|stiffqueen: ahhh |pg|| pc|d5|nt|wesleyc: phil would bid 2S in a second!|pg|| nt|beauch: I am not a big fan of michaels and I like double|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: pass is crazy for mine|pg|| nt|wesleyc: pass seems completely insane by milne|pg|| nt|beauch: but passing the double is really odd!|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: may be i missed something...but i wil check now...looks a strange pass|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|beauch: wow trian you scared us!|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: this looks like 500|pg|| nt|beauch: what was real auction???|pg|| nt|wesleyc: 4S seems even more insane than the pass!|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: lol...they took the bids very very fast|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: i am very very sorry'|pg|| mc|8|nt|beauch: perhaps North opened 4@S?|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: yes...this is the most probable|pg|| nt|wesleyc: or maybe 3S (x) 4S|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SK7HK87DT54CJT763,ST864HAJD876C9542,SAQJ952H953DJ2CAQ,S3HQT642DAKQ93CK8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: Unluck as 4@h is a likely make|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d9|pc|h7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2S962H982D97654C83,SQ3HAQTDAKJ32C765,SKJ874HK765DQCKJ9,SAT5HJ43DT8CAQT42|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|d|nt|stiffqueen: should be 3nt E/W|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: no...may be he opened 4s and i saw 1:(|pg|| mb|r|nt|vugrapha6: i am getting old ..very very sorry|pg|| mb|1D|nt|beauch: lol|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: 4 and 1 look similar :(|pg|| mb|d|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|vugrapha6: yep..this is what happened,,,4s x p p p|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: i will correct the bidding later|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|stiffqueen: probable 2 imp gain for Wilkinson after right siding this contract|pg|| nt|beauch: Milne has done well here and will pick up a few tricks in overtricks|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c9|nt|stiffqueen: Milne commiting to some club finessing which will go well|pg|| nt|beauch: strange line of play here|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: screen closed and questions|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: screen back up|pg|| nt|beauch: why not win spade queen and attack @C|pg|| nt|wesleyc: I would tend to show count on the first spade as South|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: i agree - presumably he was thinking about killing entries to North|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|beauch: howard could have won tr2 and shifted to @Sk|pg|| pc|cK|nt|stiffqueen: poor line to hold himself to just 9 tricks now|pg|| nt|wesleyc: still 9 tricks still safe for E/W|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: sorry it was the king of clubs|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dA|mc|10|nt|stiffqueen: hmmm - i think that was 9 tricks|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: one spectators recomends specsavers lol|pg|| nt|wesleyc: lol|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: and Milne claimed 10 tricks...accepted|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2S962H982D97654C83,SQ3HAQTDAKJ32C765,SKJ874HK765DQCKJ9,SAT5HJ43DT8CAQT42|sv|b|nt|vugrapha2: Hoping for better things so Wilk lost his trump trick|pg|| mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1D|nt|vugrapha2: X = Majors|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: 1@D = 9+ any|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|vugrapha2: Lorentz shows his H stopper|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: Burgess doesn't know he can make the rest|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|c6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S74HJ82DJT3CKQ964,SAJ63H764D962CJ87,S95HAQ953DKQ8754C,SKQT82HKTDACAT532|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|2H|mb|3H|nt|wesleyc: East with yet another 5/5|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|d|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|stiffqueen: Milne/Griffiths seemed determined not to find a fast auction...|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wesleyc: small heart lead a possibility here|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|beauch: bye folks |pg|| nt|vugrapha6: thx Dave|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s9|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S74HJ82DJT3CKQ964,SAJ63H764D962CJ87,S95HAQ953DKQ8754C,SKQT82HKTDACAT532|sv|n|nt|vugrapha2: Mr Deep finessse would have made 12 tricks easily of course|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2H|nt|vugrapha2: Third Michaels overcall in 4 brds|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|vugrapha2: Not everyones cup of tea with a 4333|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: well Burgess did well not to move: perhaps 4@s = pre-emptive|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|vugrapha2: He was thinking of leading a low Heart ! to get a club ruff|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h4|mc|10|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SAKQ74H853DCA8652,SJT92H9DQJT83CJ73,S3HAQT42DA6542CK9,S865HKJ76DK97CQT4|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|stiffqueen: avoiding 6 hearts is the plan this hand...|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4N!|mb|p|nt|stiffqueen: Howard will move - looks like 6H now |pg|| mb|5N!|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wesleyc: 4D perhaps a bit pushy with only 3 small trumps.|pg|| mb|p|nt|wesleyc: and with an unlucky heart layout this is dooned|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: 6H is not a terrible contract - no play this hand|pg|| pc|s5|nt|wesleyc: if you added the Jh to either hand, the slam would be fantastic.|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: new leader after this|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|d4|pc|s8|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: Howard planning a bit of a scramble line|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|h3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|wesleyc: a wise kibitzer has pointed out that 3C is probably a better choice on the south hand over 2H.|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|11|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SAKQ74H853DCA8652,SJT92H9DQJT83CJ73,S3HAQT42DA6542CK9,S865HKJ76DK97CQT4|sv|e|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: Lorentz still up by 3 imps|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: 2@c = 5+ Hearts inv or better|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: 6@h is not a bad contract but doomed to failure on the ie of the cards|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: lie |pg|| mb|3S|nt|vugrapha2: They are alerting all these bids so perhaps they are cuing for Hearts|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|vugrapha2: Both 3NT and 4@c are alerted|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|vugrapha2: ... at last someone bids the suit they have agreed !!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: They did well to stop after all those bids|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: difference in match continues to be the 3 imp carryover from the qualifying triple round robin|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: but open room is in 6@H|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQ862HKQ2DJT9CQ64,S543HJ93DA8632C53,SAJTHA5DKQ75CAT97,SK97HT8764D4CKJ82|sv|b|nt|wesleyc: without a 3C bid a lay down club slam could easily be missed|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQ862HKQ2DJT9CQ64,S543HJ93DA8632C53,SAJTHA5DKQ75CAT97,SK97HT8764D4CKJ82|sv|b|nt|vugrapha2: So that will be a big pick up for Wilkinson|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: can be balanced with 5@D 2/3@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|vugrapha2: Apparently 1NT shoed an inv hand|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: sorry was just writing that|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: weaker hand bids 1@C-1@S|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: and after the "inv" i think 3N denied a 4-card major|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: convention cards at either http://www.abfevents.com.au/events/playoffs/2015/OW/conventions.asp|pg|| nt|ahollan1: or http://livebridge.net/bbo/abf/2015po.php?dsp=tms|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAQ8764H93D5CT943,SK953HA5DAQJT93C7,SJ2HKJ8764D76CAQ8,STHQT2DK842CKJ652|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|stiffqueen: tough 3nt for E/W|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: actually easy after Milne up grades to a 1 club opening|pg|| nt|wesleyc: the trick now is avoiding 5D|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: again they are bidding slowly - presumably 3 clubs was a GF so Milne might of just bashed 3nt|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: nye in the tank|pg|| nt|wesleyc: with 4c support and a singleton the east hand looks very promising|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: well it is a pretty horrid minimum for a 3 club bid|pg|| mb|3H|an|alerted|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wesleyc: nicely done by EW|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|vugrapha6: Milne asks Pete whats the jack|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|h4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s8|mc|10|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAQ8764H93D5CT943,SK953HA5DAQJT93C7,SJ2HKJ8764D76CAQ8,STHQT2DK842CKJ652|sv|o|nt|vugrapha2: Thanks Al I'll take all the help I can get|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-15, 2+@D|pg|| mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: that's why i get the no bucks Peter|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: some big clubbers have a bid over 2@H to show BOTH @C & @D|pg|| mb|3D|nt|vugrapha2: True I get paid a few roubles |pg|| mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: Stephen thinking of 3NTI can hear the wheels go around|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: Chickeded out|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: he just couldn't count past 6@D tricks|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: but on this lead 5@D was the winning call|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe with @SA onside 5@D is cold|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c9|mc|10|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SA73HQJ85D975CA98,SQT8HAK7432D32CK5,SKJ654H96DK86C762,S92HTDAQJT4CQJT43|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|d|mb|r|an|alerted|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wesleyc: I think the xx here shows hearts|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: it was alerted yes|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|wesleyc: 2NT looks like the bad side of good bad|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wesleyc: artificial, showing a minimum hand|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|d4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|dT|pc|h8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SA73HQJ85D975CA98,SQT8HAK7432D32CK5,SKJ654H96DK86C762,S92HTDAQJT4CQJT43|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|vugrapha2: 2NT = minors 8-11|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i miscounted only 10 tricks after @H shift :( |pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = 8-11, 5+@C 5+@D|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: 3@H is a relay, so just signoff in 3@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: There was a similar hand yesterday when 4@h was cold |pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|h2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S43HT73DQ84CKJ753,SAT9752HJ92D97CT2,SKJH854DKT53CQ986,SQ86HAKQ6DAJ62CA4|sv|b|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| mc|11|nt|vugrapha6: break|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S43HT73DQ84CKJ753,SAT9752HJ92D97CT2,SKJH854DKT53CQ986,SQ86HAKQ6DAJ62CA4|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: was there any discussion about vugraph coverage of any of the round robin?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: please don't tell me there was coverage but i missed it|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: not that I'm awae of|pg|| nt|ahollan1: another strong 1@C|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: No there was no BBO for the qualifying rounds|pg|| mb|1C|nt|vugrapha2: 1@C = 16+|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: 1@h = 5+ spades 0-8 hcpts|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: i was going to alert that after corrected auction :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = art, 18+ hcp|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = game force so assume 6-8|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: Now 2@s = 5-8 6+spades|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 5-8, 6-8 who's counting?|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: i've never seen this system in action - just getting all the info from their convention card|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: marston-prescott also using 1@C-1@D as artificial game force, but most of their other bids are immediately 5-8|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: double finesse in Spades would have been a bummer for Lorentz|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SJ98H65DJ64CAKT84,SAKT432HADAK2CQ53,SQ75HKJT72DT8C972,S6HQ9843DQ9753CJ6|sv|o|nt|vugrapha6: we are back|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|2C|nt|wesleyc: at the other table a 1H overcall from North after the same strong 1C start kept E/W out of game|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|s9|pg|| nt|wesleyc: another 6 imps to Wilkinson here with the 3/3 spades!|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: well pay it when it works - great auction|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SJ98H65DJ64CAKT84,SAKT432HADAK2CQ53,SQ75HKJT72DT8C972,S6HQ9843DQ9753CJ6|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: another strong 1@C auction please|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: Atuallt Marston-Prescott have no bid for 0-4 so they have to wing it !|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: Did I really type that -- actually !!|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: i had trouble deciphering marston-prescott 1@C-1@H and 1@C-1@S explanation but no bid for 0-4 fits into one of my guesses|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i wonder if reopening 2@H would be Michaels [@S + minor] or just any game force|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: Very odd auction: should Lorentz have done more|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: seems like guess between DBL [hoping for penalty pass] or encouraging but non-forcing 2@S|pg|| pc|h4|mc|8|nt|ahollan1: i think he felt if partner had the trap pass, 2@S would get them to game|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SQ86H2DQJ965CKJT9,SAT3HAT965DAT7C85,S54H874DK832CQ764,SKJ972HKQJ3D4CA32|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s7|mc|12|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SQ86H2DQJ965CKJT9,SAT3HAT965DAT7C85,S54H874DK832CQ764,SKJ972HKQJ3D4CA32|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: and if not -- then his hand not flexible enough for DBL-2@C-2@S|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: 10 ntricks made on that last brd|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 11-15, 5+suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oops i think 4+suit|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: That's a pretty big splinter bid|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: why would 3 aces, pure holding in the splinter suit not make SOME move?|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c9|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and maybe that's the problem hinted at by Peter -- perhaps Burgess too good for 4@D and should instead use his forcing raise of 3@D|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: making way too many tricks for the auction|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SAJ87H642DJ87CK92,ST2HQT97DAT963CJ6,SK965HKJ3D54CA874,SQ43HA85DKQ2CQT53|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|an|spades|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s8|mc|8|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SAJ87H642DJ87CK92,ST2HQT97DAT963CJ6,SK965HKJ3D54CA874,SQ43HA85DKQ2CQT53|sv|b|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: assessing the blame: regardless of whether Burgess is better off responding 4@D or 3@D -- Lorentz had to do something other than 4@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: I would like a dollar for every 1@c opening I've seen today|pg|| mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 4+@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: So 2@h shows the 4-card spade raise|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: probably with a min as well|pg|| nt|ahollan1: why lose the benefit of the transfer by bidding 2@H?|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: what would 1@C-1@H-2@S show???|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the last two auctions leave me more confused than normal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: more table crashes :(|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: I'll ask them at the end of the hand|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|s9|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan1: open room bidding 28 now Milne starts with 1N on the west hand, so quick stayman auction to 4@H|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: 2@S would havce shown 4 spades and exactly 13-14 hcpts|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: 2@h showed 4 spades and 11-12 hcpts|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SAQT65HJ93D92CQ97,S9HK6DQJT84CAK543,S83HT852DK7653C62,SKJ742HAQ74DACJT8|sv|o|mb|1C|an|alerted|mb|1S|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|stiffqueen: seems like a strong 1C opening is more like 15+ for Milne/griffiths|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|stiffqueen: 6 clubs looks likely now|pg|| mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|6D|nt|stiffqueen: still can't decide if 6C by east makes...|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: this is real|pg|| mb|p|nt|stiffqueen: hmmm - 6 diamonds isn't going to make|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: i think something went wrong|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha6: yep...4c=splinter|pg|| pc|s8|nt|vugrapha6: Milne said sorry ...so all clear now|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: 11 imps to Lorentz|pg|| nt|wesleyc: it looks like 6c was going down anyway|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|stiffqueen: probably 6C going down but far from clear to me|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c7|nt|wesleyc: as long as North found the space lead|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s2|pc|d9|pg|| nt|wesleyc: and then didn't cover the DQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|cJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|sK|pc|h9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SAQT65HJ93D92CQ97,S9HK6DQJT84CAK543,S83HT852DK7653C62,SKJ742HAQ74DACJT8|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|vugrapha2: preggo|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i don't believe 2@D is auto game force|pg|| pc|h2|nt|vugrapha2: 2@d just natural forcing ? on their system card|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: thru 26 Travis 58 over Bird 33|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SAQ6HKQ64DJ986CQ9,SJ843HTDK743CK643,S95HAJ9852DQC8752,SKT72H73DAT52CAJT|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|hearts|mb|d|nt|wesleyc: one IMP the difference!|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: closed room has finished play|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|stiffqueen: auction same as the closed so far - now it went 4S X all pass|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|wesleyc: in the other Semi-final the number one seed Hans is comfortably ahead of Haffer|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha6: sorry for the connection|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|vugrapha6: very unstable|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|stiffqueen: Milne/Griffiths finishing with some ugly boards to give Lorentz the lead late |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: scores OPEN: http://www.abfevents.com.au/events/results/results.asp?yr=2015&dir=owp&E=2&R=&T=R|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: WOMEN: http://www.abfevents.com.au/events/results/results.asp?yr=2015&dir=owp&E=3&R=&T=R|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c2|nt|vugrapha6: many thanks Al|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SAQ6HKQ64DJ986CQ9,SJ843HTDK743CK643,S95HAJ9852DQC8752,SKT72H73DAT52CAJT|sv|n|nt|vugrapha2: Wilkinson 29-13 on the set so far|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: another 1@C for Peter|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i should say another dollar|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: I wish|pg|| mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 4+@H|pg|| mb|d|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: ok confederate dollar [worthless]|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 4-fit and keeping with previous note from Peter -- probably 13-14|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha2: Some action at last -- perhaps even some blood!|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: 30 [3NW+2] Griffiths-Milne seem to be exploring slam in @C|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: This lead won't hurt the defence|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: Wilkinson doesn't believe partner has another @S??|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe @D ruff just exchanges trump trick and @D trick|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SAQ7HK8532DQJTC54,SKJT6HQ7DA865CQJ7,S432H4D7432CA9832,S985HAJT96DK9CKT6|sv|e|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|vugrapha6: well ..it seemed the same to me as well|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: but they accepted -2|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: he played diamond to the ace|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Lorentz 1N was 13-15|pg|| mb|2D|nt|vugrapha6: and then he run the ten of clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugrapha6: not covered|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: and he claimed|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: aha if there really was a non-cover then we accept the claim|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: and the Pete said sorry|pg|| nt|vugrapha6: and thats the story|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|h5|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugrapha6: back in 1h ..we are having lunch now :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SAQ7HK8532DQJTC54,SKJT6HQ7DA865CQJ7,S432H4D7432CA9832,S985HAJT96DK9CKT6|sv|e|nt|vugrapha2: After this last brd of the set: they reconvene at 3:20 pm local (day-light saving) time|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 30 griffiths was in 6@C but corrected to 6@D |pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Peter|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: Ouch|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 13-15|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: @S2 discouraging and suit pref for @C|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: Im told odd-even signals are banned in the US. True?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not true|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: but only allowed on 1st discard|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think that is the case worldwide|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|c9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 30 6@D -150|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: amazing how close the match is|pg|| nt|vugrapha2: see you at 3:20 time for a coffee break|pg|| pg||