vg|A-15th WYTC 2014,J-RR10,I,15,28,TURKEY,0,USA1,0| rs|4CE+1,1NN-3,4HS=,4HS=,6DS-2,5DS+1,1NE+1,2NE=,3NE+1,3NE+1,3HW=,4HW-2,3NW-2,3NW-2,4HS+1,4HS+1,4SE+2,4SE=,4SS=,4SS=,4HE=,3CW+1,4DNx=,3DN+2,5HSx-2,5DNx-2,2NE-2,1NE+1| pn|KOCLAR,LIEN,SUZER,AGICA,BRESCOLL,KAPUSUZ,KAPLAN,ALTINDAG|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAQJ52HAK9D942CK3,S98HJ643DA86CAJ84,S43HQT8752DJT3C52,SKT76HDKQ75CQT976|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Aurora: Hello all:) here you can see player profiles, teams, CCs, and you can find on: http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/2014istanbul.php|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|Aurora: Running score for this table - Juniors http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/Istanbul.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1040&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c4|pc|h7|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAQJ52HAK9D942CK3,S98HJ643DA86CAJ84,S43HQT8752DJT3C52,SKT76HDKQ75CQT976|sv|n|nt|Harlan: welcome all|pg|| nt|Harlan: N_s play a strong Club System|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Hello all :)|pg|| nt|Harlan: but not typical precision responses|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Big matchup in this 10th match!|pg|| nt|Harlan: they respond using ZZ or Zar Points where an A=3, K=2, and Q=1|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: hi|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Players are likely asking about each other's systems|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Welcome Ovunc :)|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Turkey is 1st and USA1 5th at this almost halfway point in the Round Robin|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|capt_aa: welcome folks.. two tough teams are ready for battle |pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Turkey has not let up yet, thundering through the first 9 matches|pg|| nt|Harlan: so 1@C is 16+|pg|| nt|capt_aa: card's friendly for club contract...looks like 11 tricks E/W..but they may not come inot play here|pg|| nt|Harlan: 1@D is 0-4 ZZ points|pg|| nt|Harlan: they respond using ZZ or Zar Points where an A=3, K=2, and Q=1|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|Harlan: 1@S promised only 4@s|pg|| nt|Harlan: this is just the lead North was hoping for|pg|| nt|capt_aa: looks to be nine tricks for defence off the top here if they manage to stay on the minors|pg|| pc|cK|nt|TopWizard: Harlan, couldn't N bid 2@h here?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|Harlan: I will look up the convention card for E-W|pg|| nt|Harlan: no|pg|| nt|Harlan: so this is somewhat of a system fix|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|TopWizard: An unfortunate one indeed|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: likely to have 2@H is max of range with 2c/d some kind of major raise?|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| nt|TopWizard: E should realize that N cannot have the @cJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|capt_aa: East should place Diamond ace on the bidding here also|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s2|pc|cJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s5|nt|TopWizard: W throws the @cJ to help partner in case|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|sJ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|sQ|nt|capt_aa: a nice jettison of club jack there..makes East's work easy|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Excellent, thoughtful partnership defense|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: nice d|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| mc|4|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2ST87HKQT93DKQ98CA,SJ9643HADAT63C654,SKQHJ7654D7CKT972,SA52H82DJ542CQJ83|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2ST87HKQT93DKQ98CA,SJ9643HADAT63C654,SKQHJ7654D7CKT972,SA52H82DJ542CQJ83|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Only a 4-IMP swing when E-W got the contract at the other table in @c's|pg|| nt|Harlan: so I finally got EW convention card. They play mostly std leads honor leads for those asking|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|TopWizard: So S has 9 ZZ points, a sound opener|pg|| nt|Aurora: Hello all:) here you can see player profiles, teams, CCs, and you can find on: http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/2014istanbul.php|pg|| nt|Aurora: Running score for this table - Juniors http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/Istanbul.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1040&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Harlan: I expect 4@H from N unless they play 3N = a 4@h bid with a defensive trick|pg|| mb|4C|nt|TopWizard: Harlan, what are the ZZ requirements for 1@c and regular 1-openers?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harlan: theyprimarily use zz-points to respond to 1@C openers. not for their actual openers|pg|| pc|s3|nt|TopWizard: 4@c a double fit presumably|pg|| nt|Harlan: called a Fit Jump|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|Harlan: usually it is a better suit.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|hJ|pc|s5|nt|capt_aa: ZZ is not assigning a Jack value is something the Goren point counters oft realize is a good idea as they do not pull a lot of weight|pg|| nt|Harlan: so E-W are taking all thier tricks, and not too many|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S2H93DAJT95CAKQT8,SAKQ53HJ5D73C9543,SJ976HAQT8DQ42C72,ST84HK7642DK86CJ6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S2H93DAJT95CAKQT8,SAKQ53HJ5D73C9543,SJ976HAQT8DQ42C72,ST84HK7642DK86CJ6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harlan: indirectly, ZZ-points also give an idea of "controls"|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|Harlan: 1@d = 2+|pg|| mb|d|mb|2S|nt|Harlan: it is safe for S to bid 3@c|pg|| mb|2N|nt|Harlan: they have limited thier hands with the 1@d opener|pg|| mb|p|nt|ovncylmz: he might be planning to bid more|pg|| nt|TopWizard: S limited by failure to open 1@c forcing|pg|| mb|3D|nt|Harlan: 2N might be a good / bad 2NT bid|pg|| mb|p|nt|capt_aa: When 1C or 1D may be as short as 2.. many experts play the simple 2C or 2D Q-bid as natural and use 2H! to show a Michaels hand|pg|| nt|TopWizard: As we do|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|joest: if 1@d can be short you need 2NT here to show both minors imho|pg|| nt|capt_aa: I expect the 2NT! here shows both minors... and 3C would suggest shorter diamonds|pg|| nt|joest: right|pg|| nt|TopWizard: S moving forward|pg|| nt|Harlan: well, 3@C would show 5-5 already|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: he just need two helpful cards in partner's hand and a finesse or good break in the worst case|pg|| nt|joest: would he not bid 3@c with@Sxx @@H Ax @Dkxx @CAK10xx?|pg|| nt|Harlan: it is possible they have changed things for this particular sequence where opps are bidding spades|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Joe - would that be a 1NT?|pg|| nt|capt_aa: I expect 2NT! would promise 4 diamonds there|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: other table in 6D|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: South decided to bid 4C |pg|| nt|Harlan: yes, theyplay 1N as 14-16|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: and North possibly thought it as a good 6-5|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: AKxxxx@d AQxxx@c for example|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Jack - probably a14-16 1NT then?|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ovncylmz: anybody bidding 3@s from West over 2nt?|pg|| pc|sA|nt|TopWizard: Decent marginal NV game - two finesses and needing @c's to come home|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|nt|capt_aa: cards friendly for 5D...doesn't look good for 6D|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Needing 1 of 2 finesses|pg|| nt|capt_aa: but work to do|pg|| pc|d3|nt|Harlan: well do you give up on the @H hook or not? but you will get "dinked" in spades at each point|pg|| nt|TopWizard: No choice, must lead @dQ from dummy and cash @d's then pray in @c's :)|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|Harlan: or ask the opps to lead @Ds for you. I think that works best|pg|| nt|capt_aa: 6Dmakes here on a Major squeeze now..a "show-up" squeeze|pg|| nt|TopWizard: As Brescolll is doing|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|joest: 6 diamonds makes?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| nt|capt_aa: on run of clubs west is squeezed in Majors|pg|| pc|dT|nt|Harlan: no, E is not squeezed in @Hs|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|nt|TopWizard: Andy, check that again please :)|pg|| nt|capt_aa: oops...can't see... thought HK with west...makes 5 only|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 5@d here about 40% and makes on time|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|Harlan: for me it is 05:44 am but up 3 nights. so it is easy to see the cards wrong! you have my empathy, Andy!!!|pg|| nt|capt_aa: I am pouring coffee as we speak|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Harlan: East ducked?|pg|| nt|capt_aa: why would Istanbul want to play in middle of night?|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Harlan: so now it will make six|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SKT752H632D83CQ95,S43HATDQJT64C7432,SJ96HKJ87DAK9CJT8,SAQ8HQ954D752CAK6|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SKT752H632D83CQ95,S43HATDQJT64C7432,SJ96HKJ87DAK9CJT8,SAQ8HQ954D752CAK6|sv|n|nt|Harlan: I think declare lead the 9@Hs there|pg|| mb|1N|nt|TopWizard: Victor Mollo would enjoy this hand: Game makes slam, slam makes game . . . |pg|| nt|Harlan: no slam went down 2|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harlan: slam can't amke game|pg|| nt|Harlan: game makes slam|pg|| mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|TopWizard: A natural raise of NT by West, a rare bid these days|pg|| nt|Harlan: 2NT is a natural invite|pg|| nt|Harlan: yes, I was going to say the same thing RARE|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|capt_aa: a good hand for invitational raise|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|capt_aa: promoting the diamond holding |pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|nt|Harlan: a nice duck by Kaplan, but with the A@H there, declare will prevail|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d7|nt|capt_aa: HK switch there would bury the diamonds ..a Merrimac coup|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c4|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|c6|pg|| mc|8|nt|TopWizard: Should Kaplan have led the @hK earlier? Is that the Merrimac coup?|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S32H632DAKQ5CJT85,SAQJT7HQ95DJ84C62,S654HJT74D63CQ943,SK98HAK8DT972CAK7|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h6|mc|10|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S32H632DAKQ5CJT85,SAQJT7HQ95DJ84C62,S654HJT74D63CQ943,SK98HAK8DT972CAK7|sv|e|nt|Harlan: the name is correct|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: It might have defeated this|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1N|nt|capt_aa: yes...sacrifising the HK to kill 2 d tricks.. named after a ship from the American war which was sunk in harbour to prevent British ships from landing|pg|| nt|TopWizard: But then Declarer could have played @h's to advantage|pg|| nt|Harlan: but his partner might have lead from A?xxx in @s in which case they set it more by returning the @s|pg|| nt|capt_aa: yes,,,gains a heart..loses 2 diamonds|pg|| nt|capt_aa: yes.. not a clear position for North|pg|| mb|d|nt|Harlan: well E can counter the K@H lead by returning the T@h for 2 @h tricks|pg|| mb|3N|nt|TopWizard: Kaplan has created bit of a monster here :)|pg|| nt|3for3: hi all....|pg|| nt|Harlan: welcome Danny|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ovncylmz: west didnt take the opp action serious|pg|| nt|3for3: Kaplan chose a favorable psych here in 3d chair|pg|| nt|TopWizard: W strangely bid when already doubled into game|pg|| nt|capt_aa: well.. not sure if the HK gains there...but the coup was worth mention|pg|| nt|3for3: I find these psychs don't gain much when the next player can bid nt.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|Harlan: it was worth mentioning|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Hello Danny!|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SA876HDQT75CKQ763,SQT3HAJ98DA94CA82,S942HKT76DJ62CJT5,SKJ5HQ5432DK83C94|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c7|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h8|mc|9|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SA876HDQT75CKQ763,SQT3HAJ98DA94CA82,S942HKT76DJ62CJT5,SKJ5HQ5432DK83C94|sv|b|nt|Harlan: I wonder what XX would be by West.|pg|| nt|capt_aa: welcome Danny|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|Harlan: West can't jsut pass as 1N X is not game but over tricks were 200 each!|pg|| nt|capt_aa: most play the XX there as a single minor runout|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|3for3: Not sure why west was in a hurry to bid 3nt. 1ntx would have been better in all cases except ,making exactly 3, when it would lose one imp only|pg|| nt|capt_aa: without the psyche West is ussually broke on that sequence and needs a manner to bale in a minor assuming systems on|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 2@s a form of try, perhaps 9 balanced as here?|pg|| mb|p|pc|cT|nt|TopWizard: Agreed, Danny!|pg|| nt|3for3: here west needs to take some care to avoid losing 2 hearts|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: good stop in 3h other table|pg|| nt|capt_aa: 2S looked to be game try...denied 4 of them with the transfer and not Stayman|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d4|nt|capt_aa: did well to make 3H other room|pg|| pc|d6|nt|3for3: oops...has 3 side losers :(|pg|| pc|dK|nt|Harlan: many play that 3@h by west would have shown a min or med hand and 4 trumps|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s6|nt|TopWizard: W is 4-3-3-3 with nothing extra, so was pushing hard with the 4@H bid and will run into a buzzsaw|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Harlan: That is the advantage of the 3@h bid. East now knows West is minimum-ish and stops. on this auction, West sees the 4th trump and 3 aces and feels he underbid already|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Grossack at other table did not accept as West, and he's the most aggressive bidder in Istanbul . . . |pg|| nt|ovncylmz: Owen Lien?|pg|| nt|Harlan: Gary: You don;t even need a first name in front of Grossack to declare him the most aggressive bid there.|pg|| pc|cK|nt|TopWizard: Sorry, Grossacks out, explaining the result|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h8|nt|TopWizard: BBO doesn't show the players at the other table|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s8|pc|h9|nt|Harlan: you can log onto VuGraph TV or whatever they call it these days|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|TopWizard: In teh results screen, but can switch near the GIB button|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c2|mc|8|nt|ovncylmz: and the promoted @H7|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SA65HJ4DKJT85CJT6,SKTH86DQ62CAK8542,SJ843H9732DA97C73,SQ972HAKQT5D43CQ9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d5|mc|7|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SA65HJ4DKJT85CJT6,SKTH86DQ62CAK8542,SJ843H9732DA97C73,SQ972HAKQT5D43CQ9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ovncylmz: 2h min, no 4D|pg|| mb|2N|nt|capt_aa: We are soon at the half-way stage ..presently Turkey is still holding 1st place...USA1 in 5th place.. 8 teams of the 22 will survive...every match counts!|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Ovunc, is Turkey playing 4-handed?|pg|| nt|Harlan: no |pg|| nt|ovncylmz: no|pg|| nt|Harlan: teh T@D|pg|| nt|3for3: normal 3nt here|pg|| nt|Harlan: lead will be deadly here|pg|| nt|3for3: defense neeeds quick cashout to set|pg|| nt|Harlan: nvm|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: 3nt-2 good result|pg|| nt|Harlan: west is declare|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ovncylmz: good lead, but let's see if S can solve the problem|pg|| nt|capt_aa: nice lead...declaer will need to work out the position|pg|| nt|Harlan: great lead by Kaplan|pg|| nt|3for3: this might make it difficult|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|ovncylmz: he did easily.. nice d|pg|| nt|Harlan: declare may play the Q|pg|| nt|capt_aa: If he ducks...defence can still prevail with spade sitch|pg|| nt|Harlan: thinking 9@d as top of nothing|pg|| nt|Harlan: S woudl play the same with AKJxx|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: seeing Qx@c and AKQ10x@h.. i dont think that defense can make a mistake after this point.. |pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|nt|Harlan: a Kib is right - N-S lead 2/4 in NT|pg|| nt|capt_aa: spec suggested the D ten here might have been trickier.. ten! here asking for spade...very nice defence/declaring|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4S7HKQT4DAK3CK5432,SAKJ863H8D52CQ876,SQ94HA976DQT976CA,ST52HJ532DJ84CJT9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|TopWizard: Hello all|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4S7HKQT4DAK3CK5432,SAKJ863H8D52CQ876,SQ94HA976DQT976CA,ST52HJ532DJ84CJT9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ovncylmz: interesting hand|pg|| nt|Harlan: 1@D = 2+|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Harlan: s might bid 3@Hs|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ovncylmz: or 2@s|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: such heavy precision openers today|pg|| nt|Harlan: 2@s is the same or better as it allows for both a NT game or club slam|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: only problem with 2@s is which of the North's bids are forcing now:)|pg|| nt|Harlan: teh Qxx in @S is wasted, but N doesn't ahve to give up on slam. but 3 of either minor is probably to play|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ovncylmz: 3m is forcing for a natural system, but not sure about precision.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|capt_aa: I don't like their chances in 6H...but 4H a cake walk|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg|| nt|Harlan: it is not an easy hand to defend|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: 6h, yes.. 4h, easy:)|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: south bids 2S and North has this hand?:)|pg|| nt|Harlan: S is limited by not opening 1@c|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: sure but he is at the top of his range|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: with a spade singleton |pg|| nt|Harlan: and he showed that|pg|| nt|Harlan: N showed that|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: okay so 4H defense seems easy - unsettable|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: btw, in theory i guess 3m must be forcing given that 3H is the bid with a minimal takeout|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: now cannot make 6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: can* but wont|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d3|mc|11|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1S87HJ96DAT982C983,SQT963HQDK7CQJ652,SKHAT532DQ643CK74,SAJ542HK874DJ5CAT|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: USA1 off to a good start halfway through|pg|| mb|p|pc|h6|nt|TopWizard: The normal 4@s game reached quickly, and the hand lies well for E-W|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|nt|TopWizard: Agica wondering, but really has to finesse|pg|| nt|TopWizard: @d position unclear, not to mention trumps|pg|| nt|TopWizard: He may try to pitch a @d on the @hK however|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Which risks everything on the @s finesse|pg|| nt|Tez: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/Istanbul.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1040&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Tez: Merhaba:)|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Rising @cA will concede defeat if the @sK offside, so he does finesse|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d7|pc|h2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: As predicted|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|mc|12|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1S87HJ96DAT982C983,SQT963HQDK7CQJ652,SKHAT532DQ643CK74,SAJ542HK874DJ5CAT|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harlan: I would Guess that 2@H is an alert|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c7|nt|capt_aa: nice club...scary for east |pg|| nt|ovncylmz: both teams do good things so far|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: hA and club both tables|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|ovncylmz: other table @c4, this table @c7.. this one is little bit more scary|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d7|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Harlan: I am going to go help out in the other room. I have a vague idea of N-S's system if you want to use private to ask me.|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|nt|ovncylmz: east is happy to see this|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAK93HJTDKQ83CQ73,S754HAQ93DT75CT65,SQT62H86542DJCAK4,SJ8HK7DA9642CJ982|sv|o|nt|TopWizard: Carefully and nicely done|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: A 3rd seat "opener"|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|TopWizard: N-S waste no time though, bidding the normal game|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Harlan: hi Gary|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|TopWizard: Welcome Harlan, we're large in here and need your expertise :)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAK93HJTDKQ83CQ73,S754HAQ93DT75CT65,SQT62H86542DJCAK4,SJ8HK7DA9642CJ982|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|capt_aa: probably flat hand here... can refill coffee|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|nt|ovncylmz: hK h now|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: same def. again.. they try hard..|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SK43HK74DJT92C982,SA9HQJT93DCQJT653,SQJ65H65DA8743CK4,ST872HA82DKQ65CA7|sv|e|nt|Harlan: sure put me under pressure after being up three nights|pg|| nt|TopWizard: USA1 has played soundly and taken advantage of a Turkey slip to have a modest lead with 4 Boards to go|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|TopWizard: Transfer to @h's|pg|| mb|d|mb|1H|nt|TopWizard: E shows exactly 3 @h's|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: N's double is a bit light|pg|| mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|Harlan: this is semi easy to make - just discard your spade loser and give up two kings|pg|| nt|Harlan: but every overtrick is an imp|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Some point out that N's double is very normal as a passed hand :)|pg|| nt|TopWizard: The X can either show @d's, or a takeout of @c's and @h's, depending on partnership agreement|pg|| nt|Harlan: teh only questionable about N's X is that he has only @ds and @S. teh 1@C opener is only 2+@cs|pg|| nt|tokay1975: they agreed on dbl showing dia and sp|pg|| nt|Aurora: Running score for this table - Juniors http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/Istanbul.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1040&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thank you all :) See you tomorrow for next session|pg|| nt|Harlan: but today most people play "equial level conversions" so if partner bids @C, you can bid 2@ds and not show extras|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Agica clearly a careful declarer, seems pitching a @s is normal, but planning on all contingencies|pg|| pc|s9|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c4|nt|TopWizard: Same @c lead as two hands ago!|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Agica sees 10 tricks and doesn't risk a @c ruff |pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Best play is indeed a low @h|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hA|mc|10|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SK43HK74DJT92C982,SA9HQJT93DCQJT653,SQJ65H65DA8743CK4,ST872HA82DKQ65CA7|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ovncylmz: 2c is XYZ --> transfer to 2D, weak D or limit any|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ovncylmz: not sure about their agreeement|pg|| nt|Aurora: Running score for this table - Juniors http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/Istanbul.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1040&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thank you all :) See you tomorrow for next session|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: people tell me that it could be 4@H 5/6@C|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|capt_aa: 3nt had chances.. and East must have been considering this...expect it woudl have made on a probable d lead|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: isnt 4H cold?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|s9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ovncylmz: in my theory, 2d-2h is a good invite with 5H in this specific auction, given that partner has 4+D 4S|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|c5|pg|| nt|capt_aa: yes... a bit unusual the the 8-card fit was not unearthed here....a consideration of 3H was probbly an option over 3c|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: 2c-2d-2nt or direct 2nt.. one of them shud be your invite with 4@h 5/6@c.. but of course not if East can be bid 1d-1h-1s with 3H and 4342 |pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S96HQT85DKT93CJ84,SKQ42HAK93D8CAQ76,SAJ53H6DAQJ74CK52,ST87HJ742D652CT93|sv|b|nt|Harlan: he preserved the heart control but the 8@H was big enough to lead the A & another|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|Harlan: 1@C is 2+|pg|| mb|3D|mb|d|nt|TopWizard: S may want to preempt 3@d but considering vulnerability|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Indeed he did it|pg|| nt|Harlan: on this hand it is E-W who are probably in going to be in trouble is N decides to XX|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harlan: N lets them off teh hook|pg|| mb|d|nt|TopWizard: E has to pass here and pray|pg|| nt|TopWizard: And, lead a @c|pg|| nt|Harlan: West does not give up but now N-S are too high|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Lien has put a lot of pressure on Agica; but with nothing, Agica has no real choice|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harlan: with screens and operators not inputting under both players bid, I wonder who is thinking|pg|| pc|d5|nt|Harlan: until*|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Lien is a minimum for this bid, but didn't get the killing @c lead|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|Harlan: with Lein showing three side suits, East clear wants to keep N from xRuffing|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Agica might have considered that he could never get in again to lead trumps, so might have made an attacking lead|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| nt|Harlan: more to the point. declare will probably have to use trumps to enter dummy, so East should take his only time in to take partner off endplay if possible|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Declarer can now set up the @s5, but instead may have dropped it|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c8|nt|TopWizard: Something went wrong with the @h signal|pg|| nt|Harlan: USA will at least win one imp|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S96HQT85DKT93CJ84,SKQ42HAK93D8CAQ76,SAJ53H6DAQJ74CK52,ST87HJ742D652CT93|sv|b|nt|ovncylmz: im 100% sure East never expected a 5@H6@c hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|capt_aa: Turkey 3D a good spot to quit at|pg|| pc|cT|nt|capt_aa: undo the turkey last sentence..was starting to say something else|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d4|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|c5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|dQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c3|pc|d9|mc|11|nt|ovncylmz: 4@D X = other table, likely result|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S86H843D98CKJ8764,SAKQ7532HT75DT4C2,SJHAQJ92DAKJ653CT,ST94HK6DQ72CAQ953|sv|o|nt|Harlan: I forgot about the X sorry all|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|TopWizard: USA1 scored an unexpected game swing on the previous 4@h contract when Turkey languished in 3@c at the other table|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Lien has 7 winners and not 7-2-2-2 (death holding) so bids the max|pg|| nt|Harlan: N should probably bid 4N = 2 places to play|pg|| nt|TopWizard: N may be considering 5NT|pg|| nt|Harlan: his RHO is still an unpassed hand|pg|| nt|TopWizard: But too many holes|pg|| nt|Harlan: LHO|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|Harlan: he doesn't know if his P has the cards of if east does|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|5H|nt|Harlan: so they will land in 5@H by south. with East probably doubling the final contract|pg|| mb|d|nt|TopWizard: 5@d shows the red suits|pg|| nt|Harlan: or West X :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|TopWizard: 4NT said "I have two suits, bid what you can stand"|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|Harlan: East will play the 4@S as suit preference|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Pulling 5@c said "I am all red, please choose a red suit"|pg|| nt|Harlan: and the club return will |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Harlan: never mind|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h7|nt|TopWizard: S has better @h's than @d's so chose 5@h's|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S86H843D98CKJ8764,SAKQ7532HT75DT4C2,SJHAQJ92DAKJ653CT,ST94HK6DQ72CAQ953|sv|o|nt|capt_aa: I expect 4DX will fail a trick ..but take some time to play.. 8 IMPs if down 1|pg|| nt|ovncylmz: already made.|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ovncylmz: trump lead|pg|| mb|4S!|nt|ovncylmz: play spades from dummy two times, open ur hand|pg|| mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|capt_aa: yes...clubs could not be attacked by defence last hand|pg|| pc|s4|nt|capt_aa: if played form south.. and if played from north ..club lead requuired |pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|capt_aa: looks to be a trick in all 4-suits for defence here.. ok for N/S with 4S making|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c7|pc|sA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|capt_aa: good bridge this table ..both teams|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SK84HQT972DAQ5CJ7,SQ53H54DJ9632CK42,SJT96HA86DT84C985,SA72HKJ3DK7CAQT63|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harlan: 1@C =2+|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Harlan: 1N = 17-18|pg|| mb|2N|nt|Harlan: 2N is probably a natrual invite but a bit aggressive|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|TopWizard: Last Board, USA1 may close the gap a bit, thanks to our fine Commentators, our VuGraph Operator, and to BBO and the WBF for makng this possible, and of course to our patient audience for your comments to us.|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Harlan: I don;t see this making so it is possible USA 1 will lose IMPs here. Turkey will close the gap|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| nt|TopWizard: E may have only 7 tricks here|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c3|nt|TopWizard: S will be under pressure|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|Harlan: I am trying to see id South|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|Harlan: if south gets squeezed and end played|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d6|pc|sJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s8|pc|d9|nt|Harlan: so east needed to exert pressure on south|pg|| mc|6|nt|Harlan: and basically squeese him|pg|| nt|Harlan: put him in with a @D|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SK84HQT972DAQ5CJ7,SQ53H54DJ9632CK42,SJT96HA86DT84C985,SA72HKJ3DK7CAQT63|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|ovncylmz: good bridge except 3c board here..|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|capt_aa: S to find 3 discards now|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|ovncylmz: see you soon! |pg|| mc|8|pg||