vg|2014 Spingold Final,Segment 2 of 4,I,17,32,Monaco,41,Schwartz,7| rs|3NS+2,3NN+2,2HE+1,1NW=,5CNx-3,4SWx-1,2SN=,3CW-3,3NW+3,1HSx=,5HEx+1,5HW+1,3CE-1,3CE-2,5HS=,4SWx-2,3NE=,4HE+2,2HS=,1NE-1,2SW+1,4CN-1,3CW=,3NE=,5SS-1,5SSx=,3DN=,3DN+1,4SS+1,4SS+1,3SN-1,2HW=| pn|Nunes,Brogeland,Fantoni,Lindqvist,Fisher,Helgemo,R Schwartz,Helness|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SQ72HA95DAJ43CK82,ST4HJT87D752CT975,SAKJ85HQ62DK98CQ3,S963HK43DQT6CAJ64|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: no video yet for this room but video and play running for closed room|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: And Fantoni says third seat openings can be weaker|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Now Brogeland explaining their methods a little|pg|| mb|1S|an|F1, 5+ !SS, 14+ OR 11+ WITH !HS & !SS|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|FG, asking|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = forcing, 14+ or 11+ @S & @H|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: i'm told camera for this room ist kaput|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|an|5332, not 3 clubs|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = bal, 15-17 or 4@C, 14-17 or 6+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N RELAY and 3N clarifies|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Nunes asks about lead "top of sequence or top of inner sequence"|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: EW upside down attitude, std count|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW std Smith vs NT|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|HedyG: should he have pulled A@H before @ss?|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: score probably doesn't reflect the fact that match began with first 8 boards have 7 pushes and 1 4-imp swing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: keeping @H intact makes it a little more difficult for defenders to discard|pg|| nt|ahollan1: always has time for @HA then back to @DK|pg|| nt|HedyG: i guess its the same , now disc a @H play A@h and @D to K|pg|| nt|HedyG: lol sry|pg|| nt|HedyG: you are really far too quick|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: i'm working on 2nd coke of the day|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SQ72HA95DAJ43CK82,ST4HJT87D752CT975,SAKJ85HQ62DK98CQ3,S963HK43DQT6CAJ64|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: hi all|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: leads 3/5|pg|| nt|jkdood: Welcome back all, 2nd quarter Spingold Finals from Las vegas!|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|jkdood: Not a lead that will scare declarer today...|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jkdood: But gave nothing away|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|djneill: East may have to come down to @hKx and @cA and get thrown in with the @cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|jkdood: Sneak a @C by later then East comes under prssure with @H K and @C Ace|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c9|nt|jkdood: The club sneak has to go the other way; but this approach was the natural one|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h8|pc|sA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|cJ|pc|h5|mc|11|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S76HQ832DKT83CA75,SA82HAJ5DA952C943,SJ943H9DJ74CKQJ82,SKQT5HKT764DQ6CT6|sv|n|nt|HedyG: ah so you are wide awake|pg|| nt|ahollan1: wide = overbids|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lots of discussion by both pairs under the screen - don't know about what. Now Nunes asks about carding |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: not sure what they're saying|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|andyv: hi Al, Hedy|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|HedyG: hi Andy, welcome!|pg|| pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: i thought 1@D = 4+@D exactly 4 IF a) 4@D 4@C b) 42 @H&@S maybe 3rd seat relaxed requirements on dist|pg|| nt|ritong: hello andy|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| nt|lrobb98: The big swings are of course important, but it is often the part scores that swing matches....looks like a few imps for EW here, +90 in 1NT other table...|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|andyv: hi Henri :))|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: notice lead of @S6 slawinski spot card leads low = even, no honor or odd, with honor |pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S76HQ832DKT83CA75,SA82HAJ5DA952C943,SJ943H9DJ74CKQJ82,SKQT5HKT764DQ6CT6|sv|n|nt|jkdood: NS look to be headed for 4@S other room; but that should make as well|pg|| nt|djneill: 1@h by east would be aggressive|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Sholud reach 4@H here EW|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Still early of course, But Schwartz would not like flat boards; Monaco won't mind|pg|| nt|djneill: East can choose between an invite 2@c..2@h, or just 2@h here signoff|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c7|nt|jkdood: I suppose 4@H could score up but down 1 seems likely; so just as well perhaps to stop here|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h4|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|djneill: if South pitches a @h, it may look like a 4 card suit - it would be rare for South to pitch a heart from xxx or Qxx|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|jkdood: In the other room on first board, they found spade fit, but also chose 3N as final contract|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|jkdood: Are you surprised East passed 1N Dan?|pg|| nt|djneill: yes I am|pg|| nt|jkdood: I'm with you|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: he did take some time to consider it|pg|| nt|jkdood: One spec makes a good point that East's action maybe put NS on notice not to balance so lightly :)|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|nt|jkdood: Some specs also like East's choice for other reasons|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SJTH75D862CAJ9865,SK9542H932DQ3CQT7,S86HAK6DAJ94CK432,SAQ73HQJT84DKT75C|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: my recall trigger is LOW from worthless doubleton|pg|| nt|lrobb98: It is a good leading system, for one, people are not used to it.....takes awhile to adjust your thinking....|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing 13+ 4+@C or 15+ bal|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: I've posted the scores for the top 10 teams in the Roth Open Swiss after 3 matches today at www.usbf.org. They only gave me top 10, sorry|pg|| mb|3C|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andyv: 3@c opener in other room gave auction completely different complexion.|pg|| nt|lrobb98: I cannot see in the notes why Espen would not X one club....|pg|| nt|ritong: because he has 5 @hs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: OR maybe they treat 1@C as Strong and then DBL is conventional [@D or @H & @S]|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Hello all, many fine expert commentators, I'll go to the closed room :)|pg|| nt|andyv: whatever the case may be, it looks like EW have found the right spot.|pg|| nt|meargent: think 4 or 8@Hs is cold|pg|| nt|lrobb98: yes, X is probably better, in standard, than 1H......as here, they were shut out of spades, declarer in 4 H could be tapped and set a bunch, doubled, except for the 10 of clubs....|pg|| nt|ahollan1: has anyone mentioned other room -- unlikely @S lead against 3NX|pg|| mb|5C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Brogeland: "no redouble :)"|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|lrobb98: will get some much needed imps back here.....|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh just noticed in 3NX that @C do NOT run|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| nt|meargent: dont think any lead beats 4@Hs but thats moot now 10@Cs could go for 500|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: i try not to look at complete layout until very last minut|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| nt|andyv: looks like down 3 unless some type of endplay in @d suit.|pg|| nt|ritong: the @c void is rather good news|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 10@C = 5@CX a nomenclature i embrace enthusiastically |pg|| nt|andyv: must be the Arizona su|pg|| nt|andyv: sun|pg|| nt|ritong: on one hand, it s bad because there is a @c loser on the other hand, they make 4@h now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: dain bramage but i've been using that since college days|pg|| nt|andyv: :)|pg|| nt|HedyG: can i borrow it?|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sT|nt|lrobb98: Low club out would beat 4H....|pg|| nt|andyv: some endplays coming up because of W's @d holding|pg|| nt|HedyG: you mean the obvious lead of a small @c from AJ9xxx? ;)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|HedyG: or should i write "obvious"|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|hJ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|s7|pg|| nt|meargent: in any case vi can say for certain that NS will not beat 4@Hs on this board|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SJTH75D862CAJ9865,SK9542H932DQ3CQT7,S86HAK6DAJ94CK432,SAQ73HQJT84DKT75C|sv|e|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Surprised 3N (down 5) wasnt doubled last quarter, and the expected runout to 4@C also goes for 800|pg|| nt|djneill: is this a good 3NT gamble situation|pg|| mb|3N|an|!|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: East is not so convinced this is not a fav psyche|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Bd 17 other room, scored, seems to be a glitch, lets give them a chance to correct it|pg|| pc|hK|nt|djneill: AK is my favorite opening lead|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| nt|jkdood: And Bd 17 got corrected to a Push|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|sT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2S43HA7D9632CKQJ83,ST9HJ64DAKQ8CAT92,SAKQ872H9852D754C,SJ65HKQT3DJTC7654|sv|b|nt|meargent: finally un peu de pain pour schwartz|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|meargent: a little bread|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|andyv: rare down 3 vul and not doubled in the CR,|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 4+@D exactly 4 IF a) 4@D 4@C b) (42) @H&@S|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Nunes looking at the last hand - probably figuring out whether EW could make 4@h|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Fantoni asking Linkdqvist something - maybe about shapes for 1@d|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| nt|andyv: voice commentary talking about the need to double 3@c in CR.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Now N has put the screen down to ask something and I can neither hear nor see, so can't tell you what |pg|| nt|HedyG: 300 was a good result for NS there|pg|| nt|ahollan1: would South also DBL if EW ran to 3@D?|pg|| nt|lrobb98: yes, in closed room South could easily have doubled 3 clubs.....should have, probably....|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|c6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|nt|HedyG: right Al, opps are playing where you want them, let them play|pg|| nt|andyv: several specs pointing out that @h switch would set 2@s|pg|| nt|lrobb98: well it might...it taps declarer out...but he has 9xx of trumps on dummy, that matters quite a bit....when N gets in he can lead a club back and tap again..|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|s2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|h5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|s7|nt|HedyG: he's still got it :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: roland: well played ... lose 5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2S43HA7D9632CKQJ83,ST9HJ64DAKQ8CAT92,SAKQ872H9852D754C,SJ65HKQT3DJTC7654|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|2S|an|!s|mb|d|mb|p|nt|jkdood: On Bd 18 other room EW also stayed out of game, but they did find @H (rather than NT)|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: an aggressive takeout double by East, with 7 HCP, 2 Jacks, and just 2 diamonds|pg|| mb|p|pc|sK|nt|jkdood: Its popular these days to play a 2level double as possibly 6-8 and take-out-ish|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|djneill: AK is my favorite lead :-)|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jkdood: Back in the day most players I know played it as pure business|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jkdood: You just don't get dealt AK enough these days :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: S says sorry to his P, didn't believe...|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S76542HAT952D75CA,SQJ9HKQJ7D92CKQ32,ST3H8643D863CT985,SAK8HDAKQJT4CJ764|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: on 6-bagger to 150 honors|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: only|pg|| mb|1D|nt|lrobb98: momentum has swung.....this is also a major swing hand....|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|HedyG: 1@HX=!!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: might be pushed of course|pg|| nt|meargent: seems silly to let the opponents score 160 when cold for slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: reopening DBL seems highly flawed|pg|| nt|lrobb98: yes, reopening should be a cuebid, I would think, with8.35 tricks, and a void.....|pg|| mb|2H|nt|HedyG: dont double with a void if you dont want to play 1MX|pg|| nt|andyv: agree, Al, especially with void|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: And Lindqvist agrees with Al|pg|| mb|p|nt|lrobb98: Better than X......|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|meargent: dont like to X here when void in the villans suit|pg|| nt|HedyG: i believe Garrozzo said that|pg|| pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: john swanson saying 2N should be forcing|pg|| nt|andyv: my 5th grade teacher said same thing.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure that helps EW reach slam but certainly gives them a better chance|pg|| nt|lrobb98: Boye could almost cuebid 3H over his partners 2H...yes, lots of heart values but his partner did cuebid...|pg|| pc|s8|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| nt|andyv: 3NT seems practical|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm wondering if 2N should be hand too weak for 1N with @S stop|pg|| nt|meargent: only a couple of imps|pg|| pc|s7|mc|12|nt|meargent: or 4|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S76542HAT952D75CA,SQJ9HKQJ7D92CKQ32,ST3H8643D863CT985,SAK8HDAKQJT4CJ764|sv|n|nt|jkdood: Mybe NS need to keep the double card closer to the front of the bidding box this quarter?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|jkdood: How do you like AK for holdem poker, Dan?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|jkdood: aka as "The Big Slick"|pg|| nt|djneill: Helgemo going for blood|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: N says "full house"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: S: I don't know whether to laugh or cry|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|nt|jkdood: I don't think EW will get as much as their game, but we will see (and then there is the EW slam...)|pg|| nt|jkdood: Some experts admonish not to reopen with a void; as both defense and final contract are often inferior when pard leaves it in|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Hello all, lots of fine commentators in the Open Room, so I'll join if I may :)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|jkdood: Having just one trump (and sometimes leading thru) can make all the difference|pg|| pc|dA|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| nt|jkdood: Welcome Gary Hann, Vu Graf Player and commenter extraordinaire!|pg|| nt|djneill: hmm, time to underlead the KQJT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|jkdood: "Lots of fine commentators in open room" disses us, Dan :)|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Fewer but outstanding Commentators already here including George Holland on Voice :)|pg|| nt|jkdood: Hello to George; and Gary forgiven!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: E taking some time, holding his head, leaned onto the table|pg|| nt|djneill: maybe Helgemo felt East would not balance double with a void and 6 solid diamonds|pg|| nt|DaMan: Hi Jay|pg|| nt|DaMan: Hi Gary|pg|| nt|jkdood: The @D underlead might get a magazine mention, wow that would be a play....|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: S points out 9@D|pg|| nt|jkdood: So turning into a very fine board, for Schwartz; much needed|pg|| nt|jkdood: Fisher acting like Zia in the commentary?|pg|| mc|7|nt|Vugraphzfc: that made it possible for him to claim, had E underlead @d, he'd be down|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: bathroom break|pg|| nt|jkdood: Schwartz also gets 12 imps for +500 vs 5@C on Bd 19, so the match has indeed tightened|pg|| nt|djneill: on 19, E-W avoided the 9 card spade fit which is down, for the 8 card heart fit, which is much better|pg|| nt|jkdood: Yes, the fat lady is several blocks away, maybe walking in the opposite direction...|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SQ7543H2DAQ9843C2,SAT8HAKJT654DT7CQ,S96H9DKJ652CAK964,SKJ2HQ873DCJT8753|sv|e|nt|lrobb98: some pairs would play 2NT as weak there, as over a reverse...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: some discussion under the screen|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: the some laughing discussion with NS involved, not sure what|pg|| nt|andyv: I doubt partnerships have spent much time discussing methods in similar situations.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Nunes: "sorry, I lost 1" (trick - after confirmation that made 6)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|an|10-13, 6+ !ss or 5 !ss + splinter|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 10-13, unbal a) 6+@S b) 5@S + some singleton/void|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 65 = 2+ points :)|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: first time it has come up, so i wasn't sure if he would open 2@S or 2@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this is probably a lebensohl situation|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Fantoni explained 2@s to Lindqvist, who is now thinking|pg|| nt|meargent: EW better not drive to slam or they risk going plus 500|pg|| mb|3H|an|values, I think|mb|4D|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: all 1st/2nd seat fantunes 2-suit openers ostensibly 10-13|pg|| mb|5D|nt|ahollan1: an all 1-suit openings are forcing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|andyv: as spec points out, the more NS bid, the better E's hand gets.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is there risk that NS will push EW to slam?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|Vugraphzfb: L: "thank you ... 7 @hs?"|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|nt|andyv: and for those specs who wanted the match to tighten up, they got their wish as we will have a new leader.|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|meargent: fantoni doubled because he wanted to draw all the trumps and run the @Ds|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: specs bringing up striped tail ape dbl and eddie manfield's http://www.bridgeace.com/lessons/BOLS/1987_Manfield_Five_Level.pdf|pg|| nt|ahollan1: live video only for Closed Room our room's camera is broken |pg|| nt|ahollan1: anonymous source by the name of jan martel says they will try to fix video at halftime|pg|| pc|s9|mc|12|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SQ7543H2DAQ9843C2,SAT8HAKJT654DT7CQ,S96H9DKJ652CAK964,SKJ2HQ873DCJT8753|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2S|an|!s + minor|mb|4H|nt|djneill: awkward hand for South, 6 good diamonds, 5 weakish spades|pg|| mb|4N|an|ask for minor|nt|djneill: East can now make a cue for hearts at the 5-level|pg|| nt|jkdood: Specs point out NS went plus with 8 points combined total.... and not defending|pg|| mb|5D|an|!h, cue, short !d|nt|jkdood: 6@H EW seems worthy....|pg|| mb|p|nt|djneill: on lead with a surprise AK (etc etc), North will be reticent to take the sac in 7 over 6@h|pg|| nt|jkdood: South's 2@S call also showed as minor; we should hear more from N at this vul, even so...|pg|| mb|5H|nt|jkdood: Over 5@H for sure|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Or not...|pg|| mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Fisher is very active, but perhaps should bow out as George points out|pg|| nt|djneill: 6@d seems like easy insurance, unless opps regain their courage and bid 6|pg|| nt|jkdood: Thats (one reason) why I am Not Playing....|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|jkdood: Dan maybe you and I can play in the Zip Midnite Swiss??|pg|| nt|djneill: commentators usually have to clean up the playing area at night|pg|| nt|jkdood: Oh I forgot, yeah|pg|| nt|jkdood: 6@H is really hard to get to EW; if not pushed there|pg|| mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfc: brief discussion on how many made, immediately after trick 1|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQ976H7DJ976CA864,SKJT52HA6DKQ3CJ73,SA843HKQJT4DT54CK,SH98532DA82CQT952|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Vugraphzfb: L just checked the score on the 5@h bidding card :)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|Vugraphzfb: EW have to know they're having a good set, but probably not that they've taken over the lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: passing 2@HX just too deep/risky|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: I think Brogeland said that 3@c denied spades|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Not sure|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wonder if 3@C = values [2N=lebensohl] or just just no fit in @D [2N=scramble]|pg|| nt|meargent: good place 4 bad 2nt|pg|| pc|hA|nt|meargent: forcing 3@Cs from partner|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|andyv: playing 3 rounds of @d and then @h might have been better|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d8|nt|andyv: now @h risks a @d pitch|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|c5|pc|s6|pg|| nt|andyv: now at cross roads which could have been avoided by cashing 3@ds first|pg|| nt|andyv: because of @d pitch by s, can E be sure the third @d lives?|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d9|pc|c7|pc|hT|pg|| nt|andyv: so now playing for down 1|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: For those of you with friends in the Roth Swiss, the director has now given me all the scores after 3 matches and they're at www.usbf.org|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|h8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|hQ|pc|c9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQ976H7DJ976CA864,SKJT52HA6DKQ3CJ73,SA843HKQJT4DT54CK,SH98532DA82CQT952|sv|b|nt|jkdood: Hard to diagnose @ds are 2 versus Void when neither opp bid @ds|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: At this level, players often claim immediately :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|jkdood: 7@D is maybe just -500 if 6@H is reached; so there's that|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|jkdood: Big Bd 21 other room also started 1d-1@h-p-p but East there balanced)?) with 2@H|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Too much work here to be looking for overtricks|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|nt|jkdood: And (on BD 21) EW are finally playing 3N with 32 high|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jkdood: Will be surprised to see that is a large pickup|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Schwartz will likely lead the @cK|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|jkdood: 12 imps or so, but could have been more|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jkdood: The teams will be about 3 imps apart after Bd 21 is tallied|pg|| nt|TopWizard: May end up a trick short|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|s7|pg|| nt|reisig: After Schwartz just scored 31-0 ..this is anybody's match now :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|c9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d7|pc|c7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|cT|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|TopWizard: This was probably an error by Helness|pg|| nt|TopWizard: DaMan's analysis was spot on, players are sometimes tired at this point.|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Helness is a very careful player|pg|| nt|djneill: Fisher falsecarded to get rid of the diamond on the heart, generally you want to cash out before crossruffing but the @dJ looked like it was doubleton, and East did not want to play a third diamond to get ruffed and 2 clubs played|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c6|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|hJ|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SHAQJ9742D742CAT5,SKQT64H3DA63CQJ87,SA9732HK85DTC9632,SJ85HT6DKQJ985CK4|sv|o|nt|meargent: can still insure down 2 by playing @D now or finess @Ss|pg|| nt|meargent: but no|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that's quite a leaderboard in the Roth Swiss!!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Something to do with the upsets in this event? :)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|Vugraphzfb: Early upsets, that is|pg|| mb|p|nt|andyv: thin game reached in CR|pg|| mb|3D!|an|INV, 3 !ss I think|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: i thought 3@D = mixed raise, 4+fit, 6-8|pg|| nt|meargent: sort of normal with the transfer bid of 4@Hs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: delay because it didn't look like correct bid to me|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry 3@H would be mixed raise|pg|| mb|5H|nt|ahollan1: 3M-1|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@D = 3+fit, INV 9-11|pg|| nt|meargent: think needs trump lead to beat 5@Hs|pg|| pc|sK|nt|bobholl: on @H lead 5@H migth go down|pg|| nt|andyv: I think K@s lead is normal|pg|| nt|sixela: think yourre right, but hard to find|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|c5|pg|| nt|meargent: @SK might be normal but not effective|pg|| mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfb: short break|pg|| nt|ahollan1: does anyone know the record for most written commentators in a room?|pg|| nt|andyv: as spec points out, even a @c lead will probably set ths|pg|| nt|andyv: this|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SHAQJ9742D742CAT5,SKQT64H3DA63CQJ87,SA9732HK85DTC9632,SJ85HT6DKQJ985CK4|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|TopWizard: E-W play vanilla Limit Raises, as here|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|jkdood: On Bd 22 other room they stopped in 5@H EW but got doubled|pg|| nt|TopWizard: N has time to switch to @h's and pump Declarer|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|jkdood: With the vul overtrick (Bd 22) thats 9 imps, and a new leader|pg|| nt|TopWizard: The Schwartz team is well known for generating amazing results (usually good, occasionally questionable)|pg|| nt|jkdood: Some would argue Monaco's Top 4 players are IN this quarter; which is 40-0 against them so far. FWIW.|pg|| nt|djneill: I don't think they will get the 500 they need here|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Ron Schwartz is very quiet and mild mannered, whereas Lotan Fisher is quite a strong personality|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| nt|jkdood: Bd 22 on the scoreboard now, new leader as advertised.|pg|| nt|meargent: im puzzeled here is leading partners suit passe?|pg|| nt|jkdood: I relaize both teams have many diehard fans, but most specs (and some commentators) adore close matches|pg|| pc|d5|nt|TopWizard: In the end, N will probably make the long trump for +100, but it may be a while till that happens :)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|s7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Helgemo should have listened to George on Voice and gone down only 1|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|c5|pg|| mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfc: bathroom break|pg|| nt|djneill: so 5@h was probably making, if not 4@h, but hard to see bidding 5@h with North's hand|pg|| nt|TopWizard: E-W are an incredibly outstanding pair, but the strain of the very long week may be showing here.|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 5@h probably down on trump leads, don't you think Dan?|pg|| nt|djneill: it does, I just don't think it would be led|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SJ9864HA7DKJT97C7,SA2HKQJ6DA65CAJT9,SQT7H982DQ8432C85,SK53HT543DCKQ6432|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfb: Nunes said that a trump lead would have given him problems|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|sixela: club lead doesnt beat it, if e follows low suit blocks, if he overtakes, 11 tricks are easy|pg|| mb|2S!|an|10-13, 6 !ss or 5 !ss and splinter|nt|ahollan1: 2@S 3rd favorable almost anything goes|pg|| mb|d|mb|3S|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|meargent: 6@Cs anyone?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1-suit openers drop down to 13+ so max for 2x=12 min very ill-defined|pg|| nt|meargent: although i would settle for the inferior 6@Hs|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: moral of this story sometimes preempts work|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SJ9864HA7DKJT97C7,SA2HKQJ6DA65CAJT9,SQT7H982DQ8432C85,SK53HT543DCKQ6432|sv|e|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Club lead could be awkward as well, as u have to use trump right away to get your pitch on @S ace|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|djneill: more awkwardness from the 2@s muiderberg two|pg|| mb|d|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: preempts are slamkillers|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Or, 6@c as well|pg|| pc|s4|mc|12|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S64HQ985DAJT6C542,SKQT9H764D753CT93,SAJ72HAJ3DKQ84C86,S853HKT2D92CAKQJ7|sv|b|nt|meargent: thats some 3NT from east|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: both sides discussing a little|pg|| mb|1C!|an|2+|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C, maybe 2@C 4@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H!|an|!ss|nt|sixela: the fantunes 2M worked again|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 4+@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S!|an|3 or 4 !ss, min|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: other treatment, probably more common now 1@S=2/3-fit and 1N rebid = too good for 1N opener|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Nunes asking about 1@s and Brogeland explains either 3 or 4 spades, minimum (I think with 4 very min, but can't quite understnad|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 3-fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|meargent: i wouldnt sell 1@S with fantonis hand depite my good trumps|pg|| nt|ahollan1: universally every pair says that accept transfer CAN have 4-fit with terrible opener|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Now Nunes asks more and Brogeland says "I don't think game opposite 18-19" |pg|| nt|meargent: neither did he|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|meargent: but i bid 1nt |pg|| nt|ahollan1: if you see Jan's comment there is important note; for EW opener has choice of 1@S/2N when holding 3-fit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and 18-19|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|h3|pg|| nt|meargent: however fantoni is playing the finals while i commentate|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and that is the ONLY difference between Fulvio and Joey|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Sorry, lost the play |pg|| nt|meargent: its just a small one:(|pg|| mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfb: I'm sniffling and lost track while I was blowing my nose :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S64HQ985DAJT6C542,SKQT9H764D753CT93,SAJ72HAJ3DKQ84C86,S853HKT2D92CAKQJ7|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|djneill: see if Schwartz puts neck on the block with a natural 1NT overcall |pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Some still play 1N in comp is takeout, not sure this NS|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 6 tricks, NS won't fail here|pg|| nt|jkdood: NS can set this if accurate|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|nt|djneill: see if N-S are cowed out of a few red winners on the club run|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d8|nt|TopWizard: N-S can signal gleefully as @c's are run|pg|| pc|d9|nt|djneill: I didn't know cow was a verb until now|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jkdood: North will be the one to have his discarding skills tested|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SJ5HK862DA32CT642,SKQ9632H3DT964CA9,SATHAJDQ875CQ8753,S874HQT9754DKJCKJ|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = [1/2] 6M, 8-11 hcp, good weak 2 |pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: @D misguess for only 1 overtrick|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Fisher's 1@S looks to be negative dbl with 0-3@S|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: not sure why he didn't bid 1N|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SJ5HK862DA32CT642,SKQ9632H3DT964CA9,SATHAJDQ875CQ8753,S874HQT9754DKJCKJ|sv|o|nt|TopWizard: This entire hand is obvious to all at the table|pg|| nt|jkdood: And the Cow stayed in the barn...|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|jkdood: NA Swiss scores now up at http://www.usbf.org/|pg|| nt|djneill: if East can manage a spade raise, we'll see a game try by West|pg|| nt|jkdood: Leaderboard looks like a lot of Spingold finalists (other years)|pg|| mb|1S|an|0-3!s|mb|2S|nt|TopWizard: This gums up the works :)|pg|| mb|2N|an|!|nt|djneill: usually the 1@s catchall denies other good calls, like 1NT or 2@c, both of which are possible with the South hand|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 1@s is like a negative double, not a transfer per so :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|djneill: it's hard to describe West's hand by Passing initially|pg|| nt|jkdood: EW bid 4@S also on Bd 24, but N (with @S Axxxx) found 5@H call there|pg|| nt|jkdood: ...which we know can be set with certain leads|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|djneill: go helness!|pg|| nt|djneill: aw|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: We will see -50 or -100 here, depending on the @d's|pg|| pc|s4|nt|jkdood: Spade lead was chosen; so Monaco will be back in business on the scoreboard|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| nt|TopWizard: As George says, a trump lead is often indicated when opponents take a push to the 5-level, as on Board 25|pg|| nt|djneill: Helness returned the @s7, not the @s8, so probably doesn't have the @hA West needs to score the trumps separately on ruffs|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Can't really get a 10th trick in @s's E-W|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Sorry, ruffing finesse in @d's will provide that 10th trick :)|pg|| nt|jkdood: That was Bd 24; yes true Gary|pg|| pc|h3|nt|TopWizard: Double dummy, 420 is available to E-W here|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|jkdood: Geir might have escaped down 1 here; if so match would be 50-49 right now (Bd 24)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S87HKJ8DJ632CAQ52,SKT5H43DK9CKT9643,SJ62HA7652DT874C8,SAQ943HQT9DAQ5CJ7|sv|n|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i was busy checking EW Drury agreements :(|pg|| nt|meargent: 3@Cs is the sort of prempt that leads to missing 3NT|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: can anyone tell me if "Toronto" is just another name for Drury???|pg|| nt|meargent: i cannot express what i think of a fav 3@Cs at that vul|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Fantoni asks L something and then Nunes says "very weak" and Brogeland says "yeah, could be"|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: they yesses overwhelming concensus|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wonder if named that way because Doug Drury started in Toronto|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: i knew he started in Canada - just not which part|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c5|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|9|nt|meargent: the convention was drury trying to protect himself from the great man himself eric murry|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S87HKJ8DJ632CAQ52,SKT5H43DK9CKT9643,SJ62HA7652DT874C8,SAQ943HQT9DAQ5CJ7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: 3NT would be nice here|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: It is now considered normal to open any balanced hand with 1NT, even if with a 5-card Major|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Vugraphzfc: S says oops as he turns his card at the sight of the dummy|pg|| nt|TopWizard: W might have checked, 3NT would be in severe jeopardy on most lies of the cards, but not here|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|djneill: Helness would really prefer North to never get in, so the @cK looks right|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| nt|jkdood: Keep in mind all (the schedule indicates) quarter 3 starts an extra hour early; 8PM NY time, tonight (we break after bd 32)|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SAKJ98643HK3D92CT,STHJT94DA86543CAQ,SQ752HAQ2DJ7C7652,SH8765DKQTCKJ9843|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|meargent: hope east knows what X of 4@Ss mean|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: L had to take the 5@c card out of Fantoni's bidding box, because it was missing from his :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: overhelming confirmation in Europe the convention is called Toronto|pg|| mb|5S|nt|meargent: needs @H lead to beat it|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|meargent: needs @H lead to make|pg|| nt|ahollan1: except france :) and that should end that discussion :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Nunes says the boards are exciting today|pg|| nt|ahollan1: typically even if 4@S-DBL NOT defined as penalty -- tendancy of advacer is to pull ONLY with expectation of making|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Fantoni: "they never double me, why not?" Nunes "because you make 6"|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| nt|bobholl: J@H live possibilty|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sidebar this is reason that even if you normally lead A from AK that you should revert back to K from AK at 5 level & higher|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: often want to lead unsupported A|pg|| nt|meargent: well done|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: other reasons include wanting count to help in cashout situations|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: I think they're now discussing whether 5@c would make, but not sure|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SAKJ98643HK3D92CT,STHJT94DA86543CAQ,SQ752HAQ2DJ7C7652,SH8765DKQTCKJ9843|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: E will consider but not bid here|pg|| nt|jkdood: Gary will be back on VU OP duty; so make sure to tune in!|pg|| nt|djneill: 5@c would be sensational|pg|| nt|TopWizard: N will bid 5@s if E bids|pg|| mb|d|nt|djneill: yes!|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|TopWizard: W's 4NT shows 2 suits|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|an|!d + !h|nt|TopWizard: W bids 5@d now|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Showing the Red Suits|pg|| nt|TopWizard: This is standard expert bidding|pg|| nt|jkdood: Hard to untangle 3 setting tricks here for NS|pg|| nt|djneill: 5@h will be difficult to slide into making|pg|| mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: SO maybe 5@S down 1 is fortunate|pg|| nt|djneill: this may be difficult to set, who knows|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Cashing A's is recommended on these auctions|pg|| nt|djneill: can'ts see declarer's singleton @c|pg|| nt|jkdood: 5@D is doubly-difficult to set (new word?)|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Ace should come down|pg|| nt|djneill: normal for count signals on A/K cashes at 5-level|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|djneill: sigh|pg|| nt|TopWizard: OMG!!!|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SQ54H97D985CAJ765,SK732HKQ64DA3CT84,SAJTHA52DKQ764C92,S986HJT83DJT2CKQ3|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfb: Brogeland explains that on the club A, the 2 would have been encouraging and a high one would be high side suit and middle low side suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|2+|nt|bobholl: in italian danish or english :)|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d!|an|4+ !hs|nt|ahollan1: 1@C still 2+|pg|| mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: DBL = 4+@H|pg|| mb|2H|nt|Vugraphzfb: Nunes asks if 2@h shows 4 and Brogeland says yes (well actually both of them held up fingers, but ...)|pg|| mb|3D|nt|dburn: and then North doubled and South sat for it? crumbs|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: OK. Uncrumbs.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Sorry, connection is funky - this is the real auction!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think 2@H=4-fit seems like a Support DBL situation|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|nt|dburn: mind you, connection wasn't bidding too badly - 2@h doubled would not have gone all that well|pg|| nt|meargent: good news EW have a @H fit bad news is that EW have no values and will probably be punished to tune of 300|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Hello again, quite a session!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @D plays from EW can be suit preference|pg|| pc|c4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: lindqvist nice d but declarer still prevails|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if not already mentioned Closed Room has finished play|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: Gary's arrival confirms that|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|TopWizard: On Board 29, E-W surprisingly didn't try to cash Aces in the Closed Room|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|mc|9|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SQ54H97D985CAJ765,SK732HKQ64DA3CT84,SAJTHA52DKQ764C92,S986HJT83DJT2CKQ3|sv|o|nt|jkdood: Well, a lot of imps swung on that lead...|pg|| nt|dburn: not clearly wrong, that - admittedly, didn't work, but...|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|nt|djneill: I doubt it was really going down anyways|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2N|an|!|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: E-W play 4-card H suits in all seats|pg|| mb|3C|an|!|nt|meargent: helness and helgemo are not having a good time|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|an|5-8p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|d5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: +130|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|djneill: Helness could have dropped the @dT to give a losing option|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|jkdood: Keep in mind all (the schedule indicates) quarter 3 starts an extra hour early; 8PM NY time, tonight (we break after bd 32)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|nt|TopWizard: Richie Schwartz is relaxing and watching this with some delight, but knows that 32 very tough Boards are yet to come tonight.|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SAT62H5DAKT4CAK65,SKQHT9762D963C974,S9753HAJ83DJ87CQ8,SJ84HKQ4DQ52CJT32|sv|n|nt|TopWizard: This will likely be a dull +650 on the favorable lie N-S|pg|| mb|1C!|an|F1, 14+ 4+ !cs or 15+ bal|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing 14+ hcp 4+@C or 15+ BAL|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0-11, 4+@H|pg|| mb|1D!|an|!hs|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: 17-24, John I think!|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Gary clarifying for voice range of Roman 2@D|pg|| pc|d3|nt|Vugraphzfb: L asking F to explain about 1@c again I think|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Now Nunes puts screen down to show Brogeland his hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: shorter break between sessions than earlier in the week our restart in about 70 minutes 5 p.m PDT|pg|| mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfb: They agree on making 5|pg|| pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SAT62H5DAKT4CAK65,SKQHT9762D963C974,S9753HAJ83DJ87CQ8,SJ84HKQ4DQ52CJT32|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: last two before the dinner break|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: we will resume at 5 pm local time (8 pm EST), or you can check BBO for local time zone schedule|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Thanks to Gary and Dan and all; all the helpful specs, and Maya for a week of excellent VU OPs|pg|| nt|djneill: everything behaving here|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|TopWizard: This appears to be a dull +650|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: results will be posted at http://bridgewinners.com/ and acbl.org|pg|| nt|djneill: on 28, Brogeland opened a heavy fav 3@c and pd has seen that before and Passed with 15, missing game|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|s6|pc|h7|pg|| nt|jkdood: South opened Bd 29 4@S in other room as well, but West (not East as here) did the double|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|dJ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|jkdood: Final contract there also 5@S|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jkdood: Drum-roll waiting for West to lead/and continue|pg|| nt|TopWizard: S playing carefully in case of bad splits|pg|| nt|jkdood: Thanks also to ACBL and Jan Martel and team, and BBO for bringing this great match to us.|pg|| pc|c6|pc|sQ|nt|jkdood: Opening lead by W BD 29 @c Ace|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|TopWizard: And to George Holland on Voice, for genial and expert commentary with nary a a misspeak :)|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|dQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SAK65HKQD843CQ852,S3HA9762DAK5CT763,SJT94H843DQJ6CAJ4,SQ872HJT5DT972CK9|sv|e|mb|1H|nt|rick3son: Last board for this quarter, thanks to voice commentary|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|rick3son: Sleep well in Europa|pg|| nt|meargent: easier to ballance in this room|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|an|alerted by S|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|dburn: yes, but not so easy to stop in 2@s after you do balance|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|dburn: after all, though partner is supposed to balance with nothing, he also has to balance with something|pg|| nt|meargent: depends who and how|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: and North might figure that all his cards are working|pg|| mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|dburn: still, down only one is still a couple of IMPs for balancing anyway|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|TopWizard: N might have downgraded a 4-3-3-3 hand|pg|| pc|d5|nt|meargent: 3rds of @Hs should beat this|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1 hour break may not be enough for spectators/commentators to recover -- what chance have the players??|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Fantoni put screen down to ask something and L said no, and then turned the @d 10 over|pg|| nt|meargent: but brogeland couldnt resist underleading his @Ds into declarere|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|dburn: Lindqvist may be a bit confused by all of this - he needs to play a diamond now|pg|| nt|dburn: but why should he, unless his partner really did underlead @dAK?|pg|| nt|dburn: still, he probably hasn't got anything better to do, but even so...|pg|| nt|dburn: ...the longer he thinks...|pg|| nt|dburn: unless of course what Fantoni asked him was "did you win that trick?" when the first diamond was played|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|h6|pg|| nt|meargent: too little too late|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan1: restart in 1 hour|pg|| nt|meargent: intelligence on my part|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Fun coming tonight!|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SAK65HKQD843CQ852,S3HA9762DAK5CT763,SJT94H843DQJ6CAJ4,SQ872HJT5DT972CK9|sv|e|nt|djneill: thank you all|pg|| nt|jkdood: Trick 2 by West: @d Ace|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: last one, thank you all for watching|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Finally, down 1, as you can now see reflected in scoreboard (another @D, wd)|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|TopWizard: Maya on Vu-Graph is a Superstar :)|pg|| nt|djneill: west could be 4-4 majors, so east responds 1@s to start|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: thank you commentators, see you all in the fall|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|nt|jkdood: East thereby "stole" NS @S fit|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|TopWizard: On Board 29, E-W at the other table undoubtedly laid down Aces, a very good practice at the 5 level and higher|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Off to watch the Open Room, thanks all!|pg|| nt|jkdood: Also good to have agreement as to what pard's signal means; usually diff meaning on 5 level than normal|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s8|nt|jkdood: NS do OK in @S if they found their fit|pg|| mc|8|nt|jkdood: So perhaps a swing|pg|| nt|jkdood: Thanks again! Back 8PM NY time!|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Monaco may have had an accident on Board 30 other room|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 2@h doubled|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: bye all, back in one hour|pg|| pg||