vg|2014 Spingold QF D,Segment 4 of 4,I,49,64,Monaco,63,Silverstein,61| rs|5CWx=,5CWx=,4SW+1,4SW+2,3NN-1,3NS+1,4SW+1,4SW=,4HE+1,4HE+1,4SS+1,3NN+1,3NN=,1NN+1,3NN+1,3NN=,3NN-1,3NN-1,3NE=,5DE=,4HW+1,5DSx-3,3NS-2,4HN=,4SN=,4SN-1,1NE+2,1NE+2,3NN=,3NS=,4HN+2,4HN+2| pn|Nunes,Nystrom,Fantoni,Upmark,Fallenius,Helgemo,Fredin,Helness|pg|| qx|o49|st||md|3SJT63HT4DK982C952,SAQ4HQJ82DJCAKJ84,SK872HAK9763DAQ4C,S95H5DT7653CQT763|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3C|mb|5C|nt|iverson200: Hi all welcome back to the final segment of 2014 Spingold QF|pg|| nt|iverson200: last 16 boards|pg|| nt|iverson200: to decide the match|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: action from the start|pg|| nt|iverson200: 1@h = 14+ unless have the other major ,1@s 0-9 4+@s|pg|| nt|iverson200: yes Gary|pg|| nt|iverson200: trump 3-0 break may pose declarer with some problems|pg|| pc|h6|nt|iverson200: he needs to estblish @ds, ruffing finesse @h and draw trumps... it seems the communication is a bit short unless N helps|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: DD a @D to K and @S back, surprised Fantoni didn't find it :)|pg|| nt|iverson200: W has to be thinking why N is leading a small @h now, a bit unusual|pg|| nt|iverson200: can it be S has singleton @h and @s K is onside, but even so, top ruffing will put the hand in a difficult situation... so i think he will discard a @s, hoping S still has @hs|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: sorry I've been told that is the only def to give the contract :(|pg|| nt|iverson200: It is not clear how the other table made it, but a very good score for Monaco |pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: no wonder he didn't do it !|pg|| nt|iverson200: The other table switched @s on trick 2, not a favorable choice either|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: makes us mere mortals wonder why they double:)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|iverson200: if he makes the right choice and discard a @s from dummy, the hand will be simpler despite trump 3-0 breaks|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We also have voice commentary in this room. http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=743 for instructions if you are not familiar with the voice procedure.|pg|| nt|iverson200: crossruff would do as dummy has two top trumps to take care of 2 @h ruffs and small trumps to ruff @ss|pg|| nt|ahollan1: supposedly video too but i'm having trouble [not just getting the video]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if you're using web based bbo -- there should be a tab for "video"|pg|| nt|iverson200: Fantoni knows things are not looking good|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh i'm told just one active video feed right now not for this table|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm told the active video just for Hamman match|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: the one that's not close? :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the new tab is lower left "other table" "gib" "results" "video"|pg|| nt|iverson200: after declarer made the correct choice at trick 2, the hand is pretty much over. Had Fantoni returns a @d declarer will have some trouble and potentially go down, but that is quite ...|pg|| nt|iverson200: difficult given his @d holdings|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Lavazza the only other top 8 seed remaining besides Monaco also in a struggle starting final set tied with Grue|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|c7|mc|11|nt|iverson200: very close|pg|| pg|| qx|c49|st||md|3SJT63HT4DK982C952,SAQ4HQJ82DJCAKJ84,SK872HAK9763DAQ4C,S95H5DT7653CQT763|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: We're underway in a very tight match!|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|4C|mb|5C|nt|Vugraphzfj: Zia stopping by to chat|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| nt|panosk: good morning to all|pg|| nt|panosk: last set was so great to watch, i expect this will be even better|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Thanks to Panos for commentating for us late this evening in Las Vegas|pg|| pc|sK|nt|panosk: same contract in OR|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Same result likely :)|pg|| nt|panosk: hello Garry, my pleasure, you did such a good job doing both in last set, i felt i shouldnt leave you alone|pg|| nt|panosk: operating and commentating that is|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h3|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|cT|nt|panosk: and good evening to America |pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s9|nt|panosk: here it is just breaking 08.00|pg|| mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfj: Panos, thanks for your help, there weren't commentators the last Quarter!|pg|| pg|| qx|o50|st||md|4SJT6HK5DK964CAJ63,SKQ985HAQDA873CK5,S32HJT92DT52CQ984,SA74H87643DQJCT72|sv|n|nt|iverson200: a flat 550 board to start the final set|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 12-14, includes some atypical shapes|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|r|mb|p|nt|KiwiBridge: reminds me of the abbott story about the monk who had taken a vow of silence and then said "double"...You broke your vow of silence to double a cold contract!?"|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: i remeber Nunes mentioned somewhere he is not a fan of opening 12 point bal with unfav vul, but he opens here...|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: RDBL says some 44 or 54|pg|| nt|iverson200: XX = Scrambling, at least 44|pg|| nt|ahollan1: with 1-5+suit Nunes would bid that suit|pg|| nt|iverson200: they found a 4-4 fit to avoid being penalized, so it is up to E-W to bid game now|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: i don't know how forcing the DBL//PASS combination is so unclear if Upmark can or should DBL 3@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: I dont think they would compete to 3@c with adverse vul... but 3@c probably shows a good spade raise or general strength to force game and ask for stopper|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|iverson200: W with extra and @c stopper, bids 3nt, and E with a hand with good @s raise, corrected to 4@s|pg|| nt|ahollan1: agree that 3@C is unambiguous [probably] game force|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: i think if Upmark's 2nd pass is forcing, then immediate DBL would show good [or longer] @C|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c50|st||md|4SJT6HK5DK964CAJ63,SKQ985HAQDA873CK5,S32HJT92DT52CQ984,SA74H87643DQJCT72|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|panosk: notice the 1 @S overcall by Helgemo despite his good 18 count|pg|| pc|h3|nt|panosk: just a question of overtricks here|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h6|nt|panosk: this is how you should play the hand. free lesson by one of the world's greatest|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sK|mc|12|pg|| qx|o51|st||md|1SAJ65HJ4DKQ76C763,ST943H852D2CAJT54,SK72HK76DAJ84CKQ8,SQ8HAQT93DT953C92|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: overtrick imp for Monaco, the lead is 3 now|pg|| mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: sometimes fantunes will open non-vul 11 with 1N|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 13+ 4+@C or 15+ bal [3rd/4th seat min is 1 point lower than 1st/2nd]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = 4+@S|pg|| mb|2H!|an|denies A, K, or Q|nt|iverson200: well he decides to pass in 1st seat so opponent's @h suit gets in the picture|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: all 1-suit openings are forcing|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H alert is version of Rosenkranz where advancer differntiates possession of versus lack of top honor in overcaller's suit|pg|| nt|iverson200: I have never heard of it :) but will it deter E from leading @h?|pg|| nt|iverson200: it is possible that he might be worried @h K will be declaerer's 9th trick|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| nt|iverson200: he decides that @h K being declaerer's 9th trick is a long shot and lead his strongest suit|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c4|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c5|pc|dA|nt|iverson200: declarer has 2 options here, he can play E to have @c A or he can play E has Qxx in @s|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|nt|iverson200: with the bidding, W is likely to have @c A for his vul 2@h raise|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c3|mc|8|pg|| qx|c51|st||md|1SAJ65HJ4DKQ76C763,ST943H852D2CAJT54,SK72HK76DAJ84CKQ8,SQ8HAQT93DT953C92|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panosk: 1@S wasn't alerted?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Yes, 1@s was alerted, so quickly!|pg|| pc|c4|nt|panosk: i know the pains of your task Gary|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| nt|panosk: for starters this is right sided|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: As we can see, the play goes very slowly, then at lightening speed|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: One way to take a finesse! :)|pg|| nt|panosk: ok he needs just one more, my guess, it will come from @C|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|Vugraphzfj: As Panos points out, an initial @h lead from East with North as declarer might result in down 1|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|panosk: and an end play in @H for an overtrick, maybe? |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: @hQ lead leaves no chance for error by E-W it seems|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|panosk: anavoidable now|pg|| mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfj: Great prediction, Panos, in this match every IMP counts!|pg|| pg|| qx|o52|st||md|2SK654HJT2DAJ2C876,SAJT32HADKT3CAQ42,SHK8643DQ964CJT95,SQ987HQ975D875CK3|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|iverson200: but none worked, 10imps to Silverstein|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 3(4)fit, 8-11 HCP|pg|| mb|p|nt|KiwiBridge: 7+ even :)|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: when i played constuctive raises partner and had agreement that responder would accept AT LEAST one game try|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure east hand qualifies for that|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: on the flip side Roth Stone constructive raise bordered on game force|pg|| nt|iverson200: 4th trump worth a lot, E would accept 3@c/3@h game try :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ok i'll go along with 3@C game try |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i suppose decision to make constructive raise means you're committed to accepting 3@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but still looks close to me|pg|| nt|iverson200: @c @c ruff, if it gets overruffed, can still go for @d finesse|pg|| nt|iverson200: if it does not get overruffed, finesse @s, and take 10 tricks to avoid any risks|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other matches: Hamman 20-0 set thru 53 trails Team Assael by 27 // Meltzer leads Schwartx by 31 // Lavazza over Grue by 7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: all matches playing unique set of hands|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: unusual Al, is that for security?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: same room also hosting lower flights of "mini-spingold"|pg|| nt|ahollan1: actually very usual for ABCL|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: I see, but not world wide?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: usually ACBL ONLY uses same boards in Semi-Final|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and in ACBL-land that is somewhat dependent upon size of the room|pg|| nt|iverson200: play small @d to T now also looks ok, immediate finessing @d K might have a bit risk when N starts with AQJ 5 carder but it gets an overtrick here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: rest of world tends to play same boards AND players enter scores with bridgemate [or equivalent] to allow realtime running scores|pg|| nt|ahollan1: neither true for ACBL|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: I think same boards MUCH perferable|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|iverson200: OK the simplest line he takes, looks best to me, 4@s=|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| mc|11|nt|iverson200: ok maybe a slight misread from Nunes in the end so 1imp to Silverstein|pg|| nt|iverson200: test|pg|| nt|iverson200: we might have a bit techinal issues now.. hopefully will resume soon|pg|| nt|iverson200: I am told players are taking a short break|pg|| nt|iverson200: will be back in a bit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nice when we have video feed -- can confirm when someone has left table versus table frozen|pg|| nt|iverson200: ha, I dont have that, the internet is too slow to watch video |pg|| pg|| qx|c52|st||md|2SK654HJT2DAJ2C876,SAJT32HADKT3CAQ42,SHK8643DQ964CJT95,SQ987HQ975D875CK3|sv|b|nt|panosk: well with a u more likely "unavoidable"|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panosk: it is a pleasure to see them playing the hands like we would, while looking at all hands|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|Vugraphzfj: And fairly quickly, also, given the situation!|pg|| nt|panosk: that is my only complain so far. we dont get to see comparisons|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: First Board same at other table, 5@cX=|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|panosk: with this ruff he made sure of the contract|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h3|pc|d5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|panosk: last board Fantoni in 3NT as N, lets see how it goes|pg|| nt|panosk: Upmark with the long @H hand thinking of what to lead|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d9|mc|10|pg|| qx|o53|st||md|3SA942H62D9CT98753,S53HKQ5DAKQJT85CA,SKQJ7HJT8D642CJ42,ST86HA9743D73CKQ6|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: other matches thru 59 Lavazza over Grue by 8 // thru 55 Meltzer over Schwartz by 23 // thru 55 Team Assael over Hamman by 27|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 11-22 HCP, unbal a) 5+@D b) 4@D(441) |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2nd 7-card suit to 150 honors we've seen this half|pg|| nt|ahollan1: since 1@D unbal rebids are transfers|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm guessing 2@C = TRF a) 6+@D, 11-15 HCP b) 19+ HCP, not 4*fit c) 14-16 HCP, good 6+@D, wrong for NT|pg|| nt|iverson200: :) this time don't have slam though as @s suit is open|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D!|nt|ahollan1: oh i forgot 4@D = 3*fit 7+@D |pg|| mb|p|nt|KiwiBridge: so precise Al :)|pg|| mb|4H|nt|iverson200: very descriptive if they have that in their sys...|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: that's why i forgot standard systems use rebid of 4m as picture bid with [really] good 6-card minor and 4-fit|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|iverson200: good lead|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: would auction be any different if Upmark black suits swapped?|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| nt|iverson200: maybe|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We also have voice commentary in this room. http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=743 for instructions if you are not familiar with the voice procedure.|pg|| nt|iverson200: 3rd @s might promote a trump but will not materialize as the one with short @d has only 2 card trumps so declarer can ruff 3rd @d and draw trumps|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: he plans his play...|pg|| nt|iverson200: declarer might fear someone has 4 card trump with short @d, but he has no choice but laying down @H KQ as he cant arrange a @s ruff now|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|iverson200: when it is 3-2 everything is good|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: btw IF Nystrom had decided to force with first bid it would be via 2@D = a) (5)6@H/@S, 5-9 HCP b) 5+@D, unbal, FG c) 6+@D, BAL, 20-22 HCP|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| mc|11|nt|ahollan1: 2@C opening does not include hand with primary @D|pg|| pg|| qx|c53|st||md|3SA942H62D9CT98753,S53HKQ5DAKQJT85CA,SKQJ7HJT8D642CJ42,ST86HA9743D73CKQ6|sv|n|nt|panosk: and 10@H it is|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: Silverstein takes the lead with a defeat of 3NT|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|panosk: any ideas what 2@S means?|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panosk: if i can venture anything it must be a forcing relay|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: I can't hear the Norweigian explanations :)|pg|| nt|panosk: 3@D is transfer to @H most likely, the rest as is|pg|| nt|panosk: yes and 3@H must be acceptance with fit |pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|11|nt|panosk: nice lead, if you have to lead @S at least make it difficult for the declarer to guess, the strong hand being dummy|pg|| pg|| qx|o54|st||md|4SJ62HK87DKQCKJ875,SQ3HT9543DJ54CQ92,SKT975HAQDA82C643,SA84HJ62DT9763CAT|sv|e|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 12-14, includes some atypical shapes|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = TRF 4+@S, includes some 4@S 5+other|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3N = 5@S, COG [choice of game]|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: some pairs have machinery to differentiate opener MUST correct with 3-fit versus opener has OPTION with 3-fit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure if fantunes is one of those pairs|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|iverson200: yes, if responder may have unbal hands, opener normally converts to 4@s with 3 card unless he has a good reason not to|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| mc|11|nt|iverson200: but here, theoretically 3nt slightly better because of points scattered in short suits, but 4@s would yield same result most of the time|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: an imp, they all count now|pg|| pg|| qx|c54|st||md|4SJ62HK87DKQCKJ875,SQ3HT9543DJ54CQ92,SKT975HAQDA82C643,SA84HJ62DT9763CAT|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfj: 3@d not alerted on previous hand, but must have been artificial as Panos says|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|panosk: Gary we need to brush up ur scandinavian languages skills, i think :)|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: Explanations in Norweigian again :)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d4|nt|panosk: anyway 3NT looks like a good spot to be|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Indeed, Panos, a translator would help this evening!|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| nt|panosk: Gary after a 54 boards day, she better be good looking too :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: :) In your dreams!|pg|| nt|panosk: an ACBL perk to the hard working |pg|| nt|panosk: anyway returning to the play, the favorable spade Q position, relives the declarer ealry enough|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg|| nt|panosk: *relieves|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|c5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d9|pc|c7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|nt|panosk: @C to the K or J?|pg|| pc|cJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o55|st||md|1SQ543HQT93DT83CK7,SAJTH852DQJ4CQ962,SK98HAK4DK92CAT85,S762HJ76DA765CJ43|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing 13+ 4+@C or 15+ bal|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0-11, 4+@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 15-18|pg|| mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: not 4@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i'm told 2@C = 7-8 hcp 2@D = 17-18|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|iverson200: a marginal game that may make on a good day|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: a swing coming|pg|| nt|iverson200: maybe today is a good day|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|iverson200: he will be likely to let opps play @d suit|pg|| nt|iverson200: now it is interesting, W/E need accurate discards|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2 to play Lavazza over Grue by THREE|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: wow thats close|pg|| nt|iverson200: W knows he will be under pressure later, so might take his time now|pg|| pc|c6|nt|KiwiBridge: that does nothing for them|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @C suit good examle of frozen suit|pg|| nt|iverson200: he probably cant bare his @s AJ so he has to keep 3@s in the end, and he has to bare to 2@c on 4th @h on 5 card ending|pg|| nt|ahollan1: whichever side leads the suit -- takes one less trick than if opponents lead the suit|pg|| nt|iverson200: thats why he thinks it rather be good to break the suit to avoid the awkward discards on a 5 card ending|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: back with the @D and wait...no problems|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what happens with passive @H return?|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: why not trust pard and take the @D's|pg|| nt|iverson200: or W may think declarer has 4 card @d and an active defence was called for, not sure about his thinking |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: now a 15 imp swing was +5 now -10|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c9|nt|KiwiBridge: 16 says Roland @H|pg|| nt|iverson200: great @d play by Fantoni at trick 2 and make the opponents err...|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: oh trying to give away overtrick now|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|nt|iverson200: last struggle by W by discarding @c9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s4|mc|9|pg|| qx|c55|st||md|1SQ543HQT93DT83CK7,SAJTH852DQJ4CQ962,SK98HAK4DK92CAT85,S762HJ76DA765CJ43|sv|b|nt|panosk: pure guess|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: Other room 2 boards behind|pg|| pc|c3|nt|panosk: discipline|pg|| nt|panosk: yes they are on a short break|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|panosk: you know that when you open 1NT, 15 counts are twice more likely than 17|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c6|pc|s9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o56|st||md|2SQJ94HJ853DQJTCKT,SKT8H74D542CJ9873,SA32HQT2DA9876CA5,S765HAK96DK3CQ642|sv|o|nt|KiwiBridge: Monaco regain the lead|pg|| nt|iverson200: what a match|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: if only 3N then Nystrom must have discarded @S instead of @C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N = 12-14, includes some atypical shapes|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|KiwiBridge: Fantoni will be smiling, given Upmarks defence on the last set :)|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N INV but does not promise 4@H/@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: looks like if defence finds their @c suit at some point, 3nt would not be making|pg|| pc|hA|nt|iverson200: W's signal at trick 1 is crucial|pg|| nt|ahollan1: on final board Lavazza leads Grue by 4|pg|| nt|iverson200: and E's interpertation|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: and swing potential for their 64 [we play different hands]|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|iverson200: it still has tempo to switch to @c at trick 2|pg|| nt|iverson200: as defence has 2 more entries @h K and @d K|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @HA asks reverse attitude @H7 = dislike|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: final Lavazza beats Grue by TWO|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: WOW|pg|| nt|ahollan1: now showing ONE|pg|| nt|iverson200: well, E just tries to be passive as he knows it is an invitational sequence, declarer probably does not have enough tricks, oblivious of delcarer's huge diamond fit|pg|| nt|iverson200: wow... is the result final AI?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in semi-Final Lavazza meets winner of our match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that's the final showing on bbo but bbo is NOT official score|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|iverson200: Yes, China ladies won the Wagar final through an appeal after the match is over|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|iverson200: so will wait for the official result|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: thru 59 Meltzer over Schwartz by 26 // thru 58 Team Assael leads Hamman by 38|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|iverson200: 2 consecutive 3nts where defence has the chance to defeat but did not find.. they all know it after the hand|pg|| nt|iverson200: so great momentum for FN |pg|| nt|ahollan1: our Closed Room playing board 60|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|mc|10|pg|| qx|c56|st||md|2SQJ94HJ853DQJTCKT,SKT8H74D542CJ9873,SA32HQT2DA9876CA5,S765HAK96DK3CQ642|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|panosk: board 53 4@H also in CR|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Helness to 1NT "Hmmmm"|pg|| nt|panosk: so Sshould invite now?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: No range stated, could be 14-16 since Fellenius thinking|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|panosk: i think it is 15-17 as last board showed us|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: True, and maybe not successful here|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| nt|panosk: now North's turn to "hmmm"?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: We can see that N probably needs a @h trick to make this, @c shift difficult with Q222|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: NOte that N played the 2, "encouraging"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Declarer signals should always be the same as the defender's methods|pg|| nt|panosk: well the 7@H from w is as informative it can be. i dont like @H. think of something else, please partner|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: But W could have the @hQ107 also :)|pg|| nt|panosk: yes of course. nothing can be absolute, in this game|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d5|pc|s2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfj: Short break|pg|| pg|| qx|o57|st||md|3SATHKQ97DKT74C865,S75H652DQJ932CA73,SK8432HAT8DA6CJT2,SQJ96HJ43D85CKQ94|sv|e|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: another weak NT|pg|| nt|iverson200: now an overtrick, had W not covered @s K, declarer probably would not finesse|pg|| mb|p|nt|iverson200: so 4 imp lead now|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|bebechira: Lavaza won by 1IMP|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: no matter how weak they can't resist game :)|pg|| nt|iverson200: congratulations to Lavazza...|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|nt|bebechira: who is saying that bridge is not pure enetertainment?|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|iverson200: :)|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|c9|nt|Walddk2: We also have voice commentary in this room. http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=743 for instructions if you are not familiar with the voice procedure.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|s2|pg|| nt|iverson200: the hand has no play as declarer needs to bring the @h tricks and squeeze some 1 in @s and @d or @d QJ doubleton|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|iverson200: very remote possiblity|pg|| nt|bebechira: Roland Wald is " on voice" http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=14683|pg|| nt|bebechira: with Peter Lund http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=191|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|bebechira: Al Hollander http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=99901|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|nt|iverson200: so if he plays some1 to have 4 card @s AND @D QJ he might finesse in @h|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|bebechira: Gary Hanna http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=99903|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: the dulcet tones of Peter and Roland, describing the bidding and play :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Hanna of cartoon fame?|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: a distant uncle :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: there was also bridge player Bill Hannah|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan1: oh duh i was thinking operator Gary Hann|pg|| nt|bebechira: the commentator Gary Hanna|pg|| pg|| qx|c57|st||md|3SATHKQ97DKT74C865,S75H652DQJ932CA73,SK8432HAT8DA6CJT2,SQJ96HJ43D85CKQ94|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfj: Back, very short break :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: 3NT may be difficult to resist here|pg|| nt|panosk: Fantoni -Nunes in 3nt in board 55, a certain swing, we cant say for whom yet|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|panosk: "i can resist anything, but temptation" as Oscar Wilde said|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Even the Almighty himself couldn't find a 9th trick here|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Fredin may finesse the @h10|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d2|mc|8|pg|| qx|o58|st||md|4SK63HQ32D2CAQ8752,SAQJHT84DJ83CT964,ST982HKJ975D54CKJ,S754HA6DAKQT976C3|sv|b|nt|KiwiBridge: yes someone chopped off his "a" :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: might have been Hanna [Hanna-Steen Bulldog System??]|pg|| mb|1D|nt|bebechira: lol|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2D|nt|bebechira: the winner here plays Lavazza tomorrow|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: another 7 card red suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = unbal 5+@D or 4@D(441)|pg|| mb|d|nt|bebechira: so another super-match|pg|| mb|3C|nt|iverson200: yes indeed|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|nt|iverson200: 3c is asking stop probably, @c T9xx is very close but probably would not count as a stopper|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|iverson200: 5@d on a finesse where 3nt is on the blockage of @c suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|bebechira: Assael leading by 38 amd Meltzer by 16 in the other bracket|pg|| mc|9|nt|iverson200: leads to the same result|pg|| pg|| qx|c58|st||md|4SK63HQ32D2CAQ8752,SAQJHT84DJ83CT964,ST982HKJ975D54CKJ,S754HA6DAKQT976C3|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfj: At this level, all close games will be bid, so it would be counter strategy to miss them, and results like this are usually tied boards|pg|| mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|2H|nt|panosk: yes, tis the name of the game in teams, and quite successful most of the times|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: 3NT can't be defeated here!|pg|| nt|panosk: true, who will bid it?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: W has a @c "stopper" on the layout|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panosk: this will make too|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Helness makes the practical call|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sJ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o59|st||md|1SA6H62DKQ874CQ943,SK843HK853DCKJT65,SQT52HQ4DAJ953C72,SJ97HAJT97DT62CA8|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 3 to play Meltzer lead over Schwartz is down to 16|pg|| nt|iverson200: 20-20 hand here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+ includes 5@D(332)|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: DBL = 4+@H|pg|| nt|iverson200: nice fits produce high level competitive biddings, thats why bidding judgement comes into place|pg|| nt|iverson200: where*|pg|| mb|2N|nt|KiwiBridge: they sac'd v the nv game and paid too high a price|pg|| mb|p|nt|iverson200: 2nt probably limit raise in @d|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N artificial raise in @D??|pg|| mb|3D|mb|d|nt|KiwiBridge: seems thus|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|iverson200: E's 2nd double has to excite W|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: good 4@h bid and great pass|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: 2 imps or so Monaco for discipline|pg|| nt|iverson200: tough lead by N|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|h3|pg|| nt|iverson200: probably will make 5 but we will see how declerer proceeds, he, has to anticipate for all the unfavorable breaks|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|nt|jkdood: 12 tricks EW (keeping the loss to 1 imp) is not impossible|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|iverson200: so a matter of 1 or 2 imps to Monaco|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Closed Room playing 62|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2 to play Meltzer lead over Schwartz now only SIX|pg|| nt|iverson200: gruelling match.. players at the table know the score is very close|pg|| nt|iverson200: that puts on extra pressure on everyone's mind|pg|| pc|d3|pc|hJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d9|pc|h7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|h8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h9|mc|11|pg|| qx|c59|st||md|1SA6H62DKQ874CQ943,SK843HK853DCKJT65,SQT52HQ4DAJ953C72,SJ97HAJT97DT62CA8|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfj: Other table now 4 boards behind due to a very difficult 3NT not bid here|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|nt|panosk: new leader coming up, Fantoni made the 3NT|pg|| mb|r!|an|Strong|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|d|nt|panosk: you cant complain folks, it's a nail biter|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|nt|panosk: spade please p |pg|| pc|sK|mc|8|nt|panosk: the J@C was saying that|pg|| pg|| qx|o60|st||md|2SA2HQ86DAQJ7CT842,ST96543HK92DTCAJ9,SKJHA7543D8654CK3,SQ87HJTDK932CQ765|sv|n|nt|iverson200: 6 imp lead from Monaco with 5 boards to go|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 12-14 still|pg|| mb|2S|nt|KiwiBridge: N opened CR of course|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 620 looks very good for Sweden|pg|| nt|iverson200: 2@s overcall based on favorite colors would potentially give N/S some troubles|pg|| nt|iverson200: yes it does|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1 to play Schwartz now LEADS Meltzer by a whopping ONE|pg|| mb|d|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: 29-0 in last 6 hands|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|KiwiBridge: handy 11 with 2 unsupported kings and a rippling suit, what;s not to like :('|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Nystrom 2@S liimited by failure to open Multi 2@D|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: @S lead seems to give defense the lead in the race|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|iverson200: 4@h is less than marginal|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h3|nt|iverson200: but it made|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: btw on final board of Schwartz v Meltzer there WILL be a swing but i won't tell you which way|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: yes and 3N looks tough|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s4|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c60|st||md|2SA2HQ86DAQJ7CT842,ST96543HK92DTCAJ9,SKJHA7543D8654CK3,SQ87HJTDK932CQ765|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|Vugraphzfj: The @d9 may be the setting trick here|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|c7|nt|Vugraphzfj: Yes, squeeze|pg|| nt|panosk: yes finess :)|pg|| nt|panosk: playing trumps means he knows about @D|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Fredin muttering in another language|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o61|st||md|3SKJT83HKT87DACKT3,S97H6DQ7652CAQ652,SAQ652HQ932DK4CJ8,S4HAJ54DJT983C974|sv|b|nt|iverson200: S could pass 3@s X imo, but he chooses to go for game, maybe thinking 3@s x -2 would not be enough for a game and opponents are likely to bid game|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: a big one and the lead changes again |pg|| nt|iverson200: but opponents are in a different game|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = forcing 14+ or 11+ with @S & @H|pg|| nt|bebechira: so the other semifinal is known now|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = F1, @C or BAL or @S support |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 4+@H|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|iverson200: Thanks AI|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: DRAT Schwartz v Meltzer ended but i didn't see final score|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|iverson200: 2nt ask 3nt 5422 min probably|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: Traian will tell us?|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bebechira: Schwartz won|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: 152-141 I'm getting :)|pg|| nt|bebechira: incredibile come back|pg|| nt|jkdood: Last quarter was 55-15 if that helps|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Schwartz by 11 after amazing final spring|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|iverson200: incredible|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|jkdood: 39-0 Schwartz finished up on|pg|| nt|bebechira: this day was just fantastic|pg|| nt|iverson200: its getting better and better|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: it ain't ever over until... as the fl says|pg|| nt|iverson200: EW needs a @c or @h lead (impossible) to down the contract|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in the one other match still in play Team Assael over Hamman by 34 2 to play|pg|| nt|iverson200: now FN has great chance|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: Assael looks a done deal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: winner of that match will meet Schwartz in the SemiFinal|pg|| nt|bebechira: yes...so assael-schwartz will meet|pg|| nt|ahollan1: our winner does battle with Lavazza|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: that will be a classy match|pg|| nt|bebechira: assael is 100% european... alex-josef and sementa-tokay|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Lavazza [8] and Monaco [4] were the only top 8 seeds to survive to Round of 8|pg|| pc|sK|nt|iverson200: 2 rounds of trump @d K and a @c, but still needs to find @h J as a ruff sluff does not help declarer|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|nilsland: at the other table S showed his singleton @D which helped Helness finding a club lead|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|h7|nt|iverson200: very nice @c lead, killing lead|pg|| nt|iverson200: at the other table|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c4|pc|s8|nt|bebechira: schwartz has the fresh european champions lotan-ron and boye-lindqvist|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|bebechira: so that will be a super-match as well|pg|| nt|ahollan1: only 3 of the 4 get first names?|pg|| nt|iverson200: a @h now|pg|| pc|h4|nt|iverson200: a @c will force declerer to finesse the @h in the end|pg|| pc|hT|mc|10|nt|iverson200: amazing he finessed... might have some read|pg|| pg|| qx|c61|st||md|3SKJT83HKT87DACKT3,S97H6DQ7652CAQ652,SAQ652HQ932DK4CJ8,S4HAJ54DJT983C974|sv|b|nt|panosk: wd, carefull and good play |pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|panosk: no splinter with such a good hand|pg|| nt|panosk: from South|pg|| nt|panosk: and with A bare, splinter is advised against|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: On this layout, even with the S hand, game doesn't make with either round suit lead|pg|| nt|panosk: defence must find the ruff|pg|| nt|panosk: and declarer must find the J@H :)|pg|| mb|3N!|mb|p|nt|panosk: right same time Gary :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: W's @h shift can't be mistaken|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panosk: well as fellow viewrs saying, @D lead is more reasonable |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|panosk: Mr Helness ladies and gentlemen, i take a bow|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|nilsland: 3N shows short @D|pg|| nt|nilsland: 3@C minimum|pg|| nt|panosk: ok that is helpfull to know, still a great lead|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Thanks, Mats for explaining the @d "splinter" in S|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|h3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o62|st||md|4SK742H9862DKQJCKQ,SQTH73DAT974C8632,SJ863HQT54D2CJT74,SA95HAKJD8653CA95|sv|o|nt|bebechira: this is Lindqvist http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=3518|pg|| nt|ahollan1: even as a kid -- i didn't like roller coaster rides|pg|| nt|iverson200: because he can end play W if he has Jxx in @hs|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: Fantunes do it again they are amazing @H|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: don't start singing yet|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = good 14-17|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: Putting on my FL dress :)|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: Florida?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry i knew that would be stillborn joke|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d7|nt|KiwiBridge: no Al, fat lady :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: reading fantunes supplemental notes -- i have no idea if @DQ lead is systemic or not|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|KiwiBridge: this has been a great match, a pity someone has to lose, was great seeing Upmarks defence on board 45 too|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: as Al said, someone write this up!|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c2|pc|h4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|d9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|nt|iverson200: yes |pg|| pg|| qx|c62|st||md|4SK742H9862DKQJCKQ,SQTH73DAT974C8632,SJ863HQT54D2CJT74,SA95HAKJD8653CA95|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panosk: as a fellow viewer points out if 3@C shows a minimum hand why not South just bid 4@S straight, then?|pg|| mb|p|nt|panosk: open to answers|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|nt|panosk: i have some ideas, thanks for contibuting|pg|| pc|h4|nt|panosk: 1. "3c useful min, 4 hearts would be weaker"|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|nilsland: N can have Axxxx / Ax / xxx / DJx or similar hands|pg|| pc|dT|nt|panosk: 2. "He thought the hand was worth a slam if partner have the correct cards"|pg|| nt|panosk: anyway, it is a discussion for educating us on their way of thinking, not critisism|pg|| nt|nilsland: but as we see this time it led to the correct defense :(|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|panosk: correction 1. "3c useful min, 4 SPADES would be weaker"|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s6|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o63|st||md|1SA96HAQ98DQ4CK542,SJT85HJT54D3CQ986,SKQ74HK72DKJ76CT3,S32H63DAT9852CAJ7|sv|n|mb|1C|nt|iverson200: 2 more to go!|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing 14+ 4+@C or 15+ bal|pg|| mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 0-11, 4+@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|KiwiBridge: she's warming up the vocal cords Luo @H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = @D [it had to be said]|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: final score Team Assael over Hamman by 21 |pg|| pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: Hamman again put on late spring but came up short this time|pg|| nt|iverson200: interetsting Fantoni responded 1@h instead of 1nt|pg|| nt|ahollan1: after studying a lot of data i've come to conclusion that slowest table can be predicted by seeing which room i'm in|pg|| nt|ahollan1: just blame al|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oy late spring late sprint |pg|| nt|kareno: It's always Al's fault. |pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| nt|iverson200: as he has 12 and 1@h is 0-11 and 1NT=10+ balanced, so he probably wants his partner to decalre|pg|| nt|bebechira: this day will be remembered for a long time...3 out of 4 matches cliffhangers ...75% lol|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: no Karen it's Al who explains all the tricky system bids for us :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: isnt everyone always in the slowest room Al? :)|pg|| nt|kareno: Traian, the specs are incredibly lucky when that happens!!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and lost item is always found in the last place you look|pg|| nt|ahollan1: or STOP LOOKING bah dah bump|pg|| nt|iverson200: declarer has 8 tricks.. might not be easy to develop 9th if @c A is offside!|pg|| nt|iverson200: so not easy to play|pg|| nt|bebechira: just wonderful for bridge..lets hope more people are starting playing the game....from today|pg|| nt|iverson200: declarer has to cater for worst scenarios and bad breaks|pg|| nt|nilsland: after the 2@D overcall Fallenius decided best chance must be club Ace right|pg|| nt|bebechira: Karen Allison http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=3911|pg|| nt|kareno: Well east did overcall and there aren't too many values floating around|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: alwats very thoughful at trick one is Fulvio|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and trick 2|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: always|pg|| nt|ahollan1: trick 3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: etc|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: etc indeed|pg|| nt|bebechira: Mats Nilsland http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=3770|pg|| nt|iverson200: if he plays a @d now, he is banking on one of the majors suits will behave. because if @c A offside you almost gave up the chances of major suit chances|pg|| nt|iverson200: if defence can cash 5 tricks|pg|| nt|ahollan1: semi finals one match has 5-person team [lavazza] other has 4-person team [team assael]|pg|| nt|jkdood: play a @D now E clears suit while still w @C Ace. If test a major and play a club, e can continue clubs and gets real sticky|pg|| nt|iverson200: you cant give too much credibility on a favorable 2@d overcall and a AT9 6 cader, not necessicaily he has the @c A, although it is likely but not that likely|pg|| nt|nilsland: it was even less point promising at other table after 1N-2@C Stayman|pg|| nt|jkdood: Then there are squeezes on W. And if thats not enough pressure; the match is def on the line|pg|| nt|iverson200: The other room finessed @c K, a direct approach. but it is by no means clear cut|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|nt|nilsland: and IF 3N goes down FN may bid and make the slam in board 64....|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|iverson200: if E is an agressive bidder, you have to evaluate the probability more carefully|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d4|nt|KiwiBridge: that killed the excitement for the specs Mats|pg|| pc|c8|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|nilsland: now FN have to bid and NOT make the slam :)|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: anyone else thinking about taking tomorrow off to recover from today?|pg|| pc|c9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|iverson200: safe now, and he is happy to see both majors suits behave badly, a potential gain|pg|| nt|kareno: I've got a baseball game to attend tomorrow night :) Be here in the first Q though|pg|| mc|9|nt|KiwiBridge: early Sat eveing here Al I'll be back tomorrow :0|pg|| pg|| qx|c63|st||md|1SA96HAQ98DQ4CK542,SJT85HJT54D3CQ986,SKQ74HK72DKJ76CT3,S32H63DAT9852CAJ7|sv|n|nt|panosk: it is a pity that one of these 2 teams has to be eliminated|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|nilsland: as a general rule some players dont show splinter with a singleton Ace - that woulf have worked too|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2D|nt|Vugraphzfj: Yes, Panos, but in the end, only 1 team will be left standing, Nickell already out with multiple world champions|pg|| mb|p|nt|nilsland: easy 9 tricks in NT here - time is running out |pg|| mb|p|nt|panosk: double is penalty or take out now?|pg|| nt|nilsland: probably T/O, but I dont know for sure|pg|| nt|panosk: i would vote with you Mats|pg|| nt|nilsland: I dont think 2@D will go for 800 here or?|pg|| mb|d|nt|panosk: i think he will just bang 3NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|panosk: ok, wrong again I was|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|Vugraphzfj: Server slow, so my entry of bids doesn't reflect the timing at the table!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Sometimes 15 seconds for one Pass to register, sorry|pg|| nt|nilsland: Fantoni in 3N in 60 - that will not make with a spade lead so maybe|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Players joking with each other|pg|| nt|panosk: that is what makes this game a sport|pg|| nt|nilsland: so we sill have a new leader until next board :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: will*|pg|| nt|panosk: anybody wants to leave, you are free, by all means :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Fallenius trying to think of any make with the @cAce offside|pg|| nt|panosk: ok, now scounting 3@S, 3@H and 2@D and the 9th trick if A@C is onside anyting he can do to make his odds better?|pg|| nt|panosk: * S counting |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: Unlikley, can't afford to set up tricks for the defense|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: 2 matches have broken|pg|| nt|panosk: i am out for your job Gary :)|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| nt|panosk: 2@D is a strong indincation of the A@C whereabouts, but it never caused any harm to double check the plan |pg|| pc|d4|pc|c6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfj: New leader!!|pg|| nt|panosk: i am pestring Gary our brilliant operator with private messages and he still doesnt miss a card|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: 3NT finally down by Fantunes|pg|| nt|panosk: sory Gary :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o64|st||md|2S85HAK975DT82CKT9,SKT972H83DJ63CA62,SAQ6HQJTDAKQ74C54,SJ43H642D95CQJ873|sv|e|mb|p|nt|KiwiBridge: SO last chance saloon|pg|| mb|1C!|an|2+|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: final board of the quarter finals [all other tables long gone]|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing 14+ w4+@C or 15+ BAL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0-11, 4+@H|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: so predicting no slam and Monaco go thru|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 15-18 without the overcall not sure if lower level still included after 1@S|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: amazing matches today|pg|| mb|3N|nt|iverson200: 1nt might be 17-20 after interfernce, compared with 15-18 if no 1@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|KiwiBridge: ha ew in 4@H :)|pg|| nt|kareno: UNDO operator!!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: thanks to Jan Martel for showing them all in 2nd half|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|kareno: Bad from north. |pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: start time for semi-finals noon/7 p.m. PDT|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: same as today|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: awesome match, thanks Al, Luo and our great operator and everyone else @H|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: local venue is PDT 00:25|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|nt|iverson200: Thanks all|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| mc|12|nt|iverson200: very entertaining , thanks to my fellow commentators and operator!|pg|| nt|KiwiBridge: what a game this is @H|pg|| nt|kareno: Garozzo wouldn't like the slam even from the south hand ("don't bid slam on a finesse") but it's not terrible and you can't always tell what it depends on|pg|| pg|| qx|c64|st||md|2S85HAK975DT82CKT9,SKT972H83DJ63CA62,SAQ6HQJTDAKQ74C54,SJ43H642D95CQJ873|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfj: Panos is a joy, lots of fun, and a great analyst :)|pg|| nt|panosk: *pestering|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: THanks to all in this nail biter!|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|panosk: i dont foresee a slam now, but just guessing|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|panosk: anyway it doesnt make from this side|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfj: 12 tricks|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|panosk: other room still in board 61|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|panosk: thanks again to Gary for a great job done|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c3|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| nt|panosk: to ACBL for letting us watch this and |pg|| pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|c9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c8|nt|panosk: to all of you for your helpfull particitation|pg|| nt|panosk: and to Mats Nilsland of course for his insight|pg|| mc|12|nt|panosk: have a nice summer evening in America and nice day all over the rest of the world|pg|| pg||