vg|2014 USBC SF A,Segment 6 of 8,I,16,30,Nickell,141,Bramley,120| rs|1NE=,1NE=,4SE+2,6SE=,1NS-2,2DW-2,3CS-2,4DNx-5,2DN+1,2DN+2,2HEx=,2HEx=,1NN+2,1NS+1,3NW+1,3NW+1,4SE-1,4SE-1,2SS-1,3HE=,6DEx-1,6SSx-2,6DE-1,3NW+1,3NN-2,3NN-2,6SW+1,7SE=,3NW=,3NW+1| pn|Rodwell,Lee,Meckstroth,Hamman,HWeinstein,Nickell,Grabel,Katz|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQ653HKT53DT6CA86,ST87HA982DAQ94CT7,SJ94HJ7DJ82CKJ943,SAK2HQ64DK753CQ52|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfg: Underway!!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQ653HKT53DT6CA86,ST87HA982DAQ94CT7,SJ94HJ7DJ82CKJ943,SAK2HQ64DK753CQ52|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c3|pc|d3|nt|Vugraphzfc: Welcome all to the second segment of the day|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: I am catching up with the play that started on time (we had to wait for the other match to be ready to start vuegraph)|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SQ9HAT97DK8754CQ4,SKJ742HDQT932CT73,S3H86543DAJ6CJ852,SAT865HKQJ2DCAK96|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3D!|nt|Vugraphzfg: Can't read the alerts :(|pg|| mb|d|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|Vugraphzfg: Lee said something when putting down dummy, couldn't hear|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|s2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|s8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|s7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck "I get a club"|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SQ9HAT97DK8754CQ4,SKJ742HDQT932CT73,S3H86543DAJ6CJ852,SAT865HKQJ2DCAK96|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|an|weak|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: results are available at http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2014/Bracket.php?stage=SemiFinals|pg|| nt|medwards: I would say five trumps and a void is not that weak|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Diamond leads Fleisher 157:93|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Katz indicated with a hand-guesture it is not a great hand (weak-ish)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|medwards: Heart ace well placed for declarer|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|nt|medwards: True|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|s8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|s7|pc|h5|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SA864H52DA3CJ9753,SQJ52H863DKJ876C8,ST3HAKJ7DT954CA64,SK97HQT94DQ2CKQT2|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| mb|r!|an|Support|nt|kit: Can Rodwell bid clubs naturally now?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Welcome Kit Woolsey, multi World and National Champion, and renowned author! :)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: The natural diamond lead will wipe out one of the entries to the club suit|pg|| nt|kit: And a spade shift will wipe out the other entry|pg|| pc|s2|nt|kit: Well, this order works also.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Let's persuade Henry Bethe as well, if he's not doing Voice, star analyst :)|pg|| nt|kit: Note that when Hamman returns a spade he must not lead top of the remaining doubleton (the 9), since that card is a trick.|pg|| nt|jtmckee: he could divine to play the 9 at tr 1|pg|| nt|kit: He could, but that would be costly on some layouts.|pg|| nt|kit: Like when his partner has AJxx.|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jtmckee: now he can play the 9 :)|pg|| pc|s7|nt|kit: Lee can work out where the 9 is, since with A98x Rodwell wouldn't have played the 10 from dummy.|pg|| nt|jtmckee: his pard knows he has 3 ergo mb some suit preference to be inferred|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meckstroth earlier "The score of the match is we're up by a Blackjack" (meaning 21) :)|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Lee shaking his head|pg|| nt|kareno: Lee may be thinking Hamman started with K76 since normally you return the top of two remaining cards.|pg|| nt|kit: Lee knows that with K87 his partner would have returned the 8|pg|| nt|kit: And with A98x Rodwell wouldn't have ducked first trick|pg|| nt|kareno: Leaving declarer with A9 and requiring a shift.|pg|| nt|kit: So he should work it out.|pg|| nt|kit: Sorry, Rodwell wouldn't have played the 10|pg|| nt|kit: Anyway, Lee doesn't appear to have a losing option on this hand.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck: "Take your time if you have a problem" graciously|pg|| nt|kit: He can probably deduce the distirbution, since with 5 clubs Hamman would likely have bid 2@C rather than sell out to 1NT|pg|| nt|kit: And with a stiff diamond, Rodwell probably wouldn't have bid 1NT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Lee sighing|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Lee "Sorry, guys"|pg|| nt|kit: If Lee doesn't deduce the spade position, he will probably shift to a safe heart.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck "Do you play regular Smith" Hamman nods; Meck "That's all I need from your card now"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Lee shaking head "Sorry"|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|kareno: They are stripping south of his entries for clubs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Hamman enjoying a Tangerine earlier, another in reserve :)|pg|| nt|kareno: I've been munching on mandarins too :)|pg|| nt|kareno: She's fine - napping|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: We now have superstar Karen Allison on board! :)|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|kareno: Stella that is.|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|h7|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck "Obviously, we can't do this on every hand" gently|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h3|nt|shuster: Is Meck North or South? Since he asked about their Smith, it made me think maybe he was declarer|pg|| nt|kareno: Looking like down 2 |pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|h6|pc|d5|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SA864H52DA3CJ9753,SQJ52H863DKJ876C8,ST3HAKJ7DT954CA64,SK97HQT94DQ2CKQT2|sv|n|nt|medwards: Well done|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|an|supp|mb|1N|mb|2D|nt|Vugraphzfc: hand gesture indicated 2@d to be weak (up to 8p)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|nt|Vugraphzfc: carding for N/S us upside down|pg|| nt|medwards: North mught have considered double here but not a sure thing . It is NVul|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|dA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|d4|pc|s9|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S8764HT2DCQJ65432,SKT952HA65D95CAT9,SAHK843DAQ86432C7,SQJ3HQJ97DKJT7CK8|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck "Board 19, get Meck back in the game" chuckling by Lee|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|kareno: Looks like 3NT e/w|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|s6|nt|kit: Declareer gets a ruff in dummy, so has 1 diamond, 1 spade, 1 heart, and 5 club tricks|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|c5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|c7|nt|warrens: yes, 3NT would be excellent, but 4@S more likely and much more difficult|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|s8|nt|Vugraphzfg: Rod "I wouldn't raise either, let's get off to a flawless start"|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d6|pc|sJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|warrens: only 4 @C tricks after the @H discard by Lee|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|d8|pc|c8|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S8764HT2DCQJ65432,SKT952HA65D95CAT9,SAHK843DAQ86432C7,SQJ3HQJ97DKJT7CK8|sv|e|mb|3C|nt|medwards: MMight be some action here|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|an|forcing|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|Vugraphzfc: 3@d is forcing|pg|| nt|medwards: Then N-S are in big trouble|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: 3@s is unknown|pg|| mb|d|mb|4D|nt|medwards: Let the doubling begin|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|medwards: Unforced error in my opinion|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: N/S are appologetic to each other|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|s8|nt|medwards: This is just the type of error you can not make against this team, they will make you pay|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sK|mc|5|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAQ832H84DAT3C543,SJ75HAJ7D8752CA98,S9HKQ5DKQ96CKJT76,SKT64HT9632DJ4CQ2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|nt|kit: fared somewhat better than 4@D doubled down 1100 at other table|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|warrens: ouch|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|kit: Rodwell might just pass this|pg|| nt|kareno: Very sensible pass by north this table|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: (of 3@c opener)|pg|| pc|hT|nt|warrens: Kit, I think he'd pass if a little weaker, but willing to see partner bid again|pg|| pc|h4|nt|kit: It turns out North has a maximum, and 3NT comes home|pg|| nt|kit: Warren -- I don't think Meckstroth is allowed to bid again -- remember, he is limited.|pg|| nt|warrens: I see|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Welcome Warren Spector, World Champion 1991 :)|pg|| nt|warrens: not even with 3055 or some other nice hand?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Commentators here could make up a fine table in this event!|pg|| nt|kit: I think Rodwell was just choosing his strongest minor -- I don't know what the parameters of their rebids are if North is 1-4-3-5|pg|| nt|kareno: Maybe next year :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Rod "He could be 1-4-5-3"|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| nt|kit: Ah -- that is the key|pg|| nt|kit: In my style I rebid 2@D not 2@C with that, so club suit always real.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|d4|pc|c5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAQ832H84DAT3C543,SJ75HAJ7D8752CA98,S9HKQ5DKQ96CKJT76,SKT64HT9632DJ4CQ2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|an|alert|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Vugraphzfc: Weinstein gave Katz some tylenol (headache), and Katz thanked him. Weinstein said: "take back the double"|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: all laugh|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|mc|10|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S852HQT864DJT7C86,SQJT4HJ32DA964C92,SK763HDKQ82CAKJT3,SA9HAK975D53CQ754|sv|n|mb|1C!|an|Precision|mb|1H|mb|p!|an|<5?|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|kit: Meck will surely double -- will Rodwell pass it?|pg|| nt|kit: Seems like he should -- easier to take 6 tricks in hearts than 8 or 9 tricks elsewhere|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: But it is scary, of course|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| nt|kit: I like the opening lead -- when you have a trump stack like this, lead your short suit and get your small ruffs to avoid later trump end-play.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s9|nt|kit: Dummy hit with the right stuff, so I think this will come home.|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|kit: Now a club, and what can the defense do?|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck "Thinking"|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer has 2 spade tricks and 1 diamond trick, and I don't think he can be prevented from taking 5 trump tricks.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| nt|kit: Sometimes you are going to bring back a -470. It isn't the end of the world, or the match.|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|shuster: its not like the final score in a match has ever been 10 to 0|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Rod shrugs|pg|| nt|kit: same contract in other room, incidentally.|pg|| nt|kareno: The contract in the CR is the same.|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|kit: so if same of tricks taken, will be just another dull push.|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|h5|pg|| nt|kareno: yes, ho hum|pg|| pc|c7|mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfg: Hamman "OK"; Rodwell "Make 2"|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S852HQT864DJT7C86,SQJT4HJ32DA964C92,SK763HDKQ82CAKJT3,SA9HAK975D53CQ754|sv|n|nt|medwards: Another diffulcult board|pg|| mb|1C|an|alert|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|medwards: South had no good option here. Same in OR|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h8|mc|8|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SAKJHK43DJ8543C53,S842HAQ872DKCA942,SQ76HT965DAQ62CJT,ST953HJDT97CKQ876|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|kareno: It's happened to them before and it will happen again. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|Vugraphzfg: Lee thinking quizzically|pg|| nt|warrens: Lee has to decide not to duck this|pg|| nt|kit: Devense has 7 toop tricks if they take them, but that isn't so obvious|pg|| nt|kit: Hamman would have done better to lead his own suit this time.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|nt|kit: oops|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s6|nt|kareno: Oops indeed|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck seeing the @dK "OK, I have 3"|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SAKJHK43DJ8543C53,S842HAQ872DKCA942,SQ76HT965DAQ62CJT,ST953HJDT97CKQ876|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|an|alert|mb|1H|mb|1S|an|alert|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: lengthy explanation, very small letters, not sure what 1@s is|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| nt|medwards: Looks like only eight tricks|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1ST53H652D7532C832,SQ842HKT9DK9CAK94,SAK9HAJ73D864CT76,SJ76HQ84DAQJTCQJ5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Since Meckwell don't promise a stopper, the defense is harder.|pg|| mb|p|pc|sA|nt|kit: This one will be dull. I definitely agree with ace of spades lead.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kareno: Time for a tea break :) A cuppa (_)? and a few cookies OOO?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dT|nt|warrens: Meckwell played udca except at trick 1|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| nt|kit: jack of hearts shift aiming for K9xx in partner's hand|pg|| nt|wolkowitz: I guess he thinks Roger might open a 12-count|pg|| pc|hA|mc|10|nt|wolkowitz: and it can't really cost|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Rod "I was happy not to see Meck double the 1NT" Meck: "You might have had 10xx of @h's"|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1ST53H652D7532C832,SQ842HKT9DK9CAK94,SAK9HAJ73D864CT76,SJ76HQ84DAQJTCQJ5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|medwards: Now for a tame 3NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SJH762DAQ75CQ9543,SAKQHT83DT4CAKJ76,ST65HAKJ54D932CT8,S987432HQ9DKJ86C2|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S!|an|5+ s's|mb|1N!|nt|kareno: Heart raise I assume|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Can't see alert writing :(|pg|| nt|prospero1: Meckwell treat this like a negative double situation and use transfers, so this is a limit raise|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens: Meck was hoping to fool declarer if he only had 8 tricks including the @H K and no 10|pg|| mb|p|pc|h7|nt|kit: Normal game, but goes down on lie of cards with diamonds off.|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|warrens: this should be quick|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dQ|nt|kit: 2 of hearts reverse suit-pref, since 3 hearts known.|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d3|nt|warrens: 2 of @H's is sp for @D's (also upside down), though it's pretty obvious here|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hJ|mc|9|nt|warrens: Kit, would you have shown a limit raise with South's hand?|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SJH762DAQ75CQ9543,SAKQHT83DT4CAKJ76,ST65HAKJ54D932CT8,S987432HQ9DKJ86C2|sv|o|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|medwards: 1NT opener might keep E-W low|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|an|alert|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|medwards: No|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| nt|medwards: Hefty 1NT I would prefer 1 Club|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|h9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Katz: time for plan B|pg|| pc|s4|nt|medwards: But Souths lead was unforunate|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|medwards: Diamond nine in play|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|medwards: Well done|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s9|nt|medwards: True|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|c7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|medwards: Hard to follow all of that|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SQT9853HA54DT94CQ,SJ74HJT3DA2CA9532,S62HQ7DKQ865CKJ74,SAKHK9862DJ73CT86|sv|e|nt|kit: yes|pg|| mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|1H|mb|1S!|an|5+ !s's|mb|2D|mb|p!|an|No support|mb|2H|nt|warrens: Lee makes a limit raise this time|pg|| nt|kit: Hamman will bid 2@H, Rodwell 2@S, and then Lee has the problem.|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|prospero1: more traditional Q limit raise to an overcall here|pg|| nt|kit: Lee assumes his side has only 8 trumps, and opponents might have only 7 trumps, so his action is reasonable.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Very brief break|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Rod "We don't play any of that funny Italian stuff with the @s bids"|pg|| nt|kit: Heart lead will be ducked. On trump shift, defense can take 2 spades, 2 hearts, 1 club, 1 diamond.|pg|| nt|prospero1: Heaven forbid they play anything "funny"|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|warrens: easy for East to draw trump, so this should be -1 quickly|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|kit: And Lee won't be ducking any aces as he is looking at the setting trick.|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SQT9853HA54DT94CQ,SJ74HJT3DA2CA9532,S62HQ7DKQ865CKJ74,SAKHK9862DJ73CT86|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfc: Katz is upset because he had it made until the end, says he should have trumped a @c|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2H|an|6+!s|nt|medwards: Yes|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: we are doing well on time, with 44 min left and 5 more boards to complete|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: quick auction review for Katz|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|s9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h9|pc|d9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d3|mc|9|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SKJ762H54DCJT9653,S54HQJ72DJT973CA2,SAQT8HK983D2CKQ87,S93HAT6DAKQ8654C4|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|4S|mb|5D|nt|kareno: Another exciting distribution|pg|| nt|kit: N-S have decent save, but North won't be thinking 5@D is making.|pg|| nt|kit: Of course he might just 5@S to make|pg|| nt|warrens: 5@S-X is down 2 at the most|pg|| nt|kit: And South might take the save himself|pg|| nt|warrens: X here would show a desire to bid again (pretty sure)|pg|| nt|kit: Really? On this auction?|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: True when opened 1@S, but I don't think so here.|pg|| mb|6D|nt|warrens: so, Meckwell is probably deciding between X (I want to bid) and 5@S (I don't care if you want to leave it in). Kit, I think so|pg|| nt|jumpshift: would anyone make a fit jump 4@C with north (if that bid were available)?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: oops|pg|| nt|kareno: That contract he can (luckily) beat|pg|| nt|kit: Rodwell won't be leading a spade, of course, but luckily for Meckstroth it won't matter.|pg|| nt|kit: Lee had to guess whether his partner was bidding to make, or as a 2-way shot. he guessed wrong.|pg|| nt|kareno: If it is a lightner, then south will lead a club.|pg|| nt|warrens: Kit, I thought they played the reversal of the meaning of X in all these auctions|pg|| nt|kareno: Negative slam doubles you mean?|pg|| nt|kit: I don't think so on these auctions, particularly since they aren't in a force|pg|| nt|warrens: ok|pg|| nt|kit: P/D inversion applies only if in force.|pg|| nt|kit: If that is what you are talking about.|pg|| nt|warrens: Yes, that's what I was referring to.|pg|| nt|kit: You can see why it can't apply if not in force, as it might be right to just sell.|pg|| nt|warrens: right, makes sense|pg|| nt|warrens: well, Meckstroth decision to just bid 4@S instead of a splinter or some other stronger bid paid off big here|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Rod trying to sort out if something is unusual here, deep in thought|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|kit: I guess he decided that this was basically a penalty double. |pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|kit: I guess Meck decided Rodwell couldn't be 5-7, so this shift is okay.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|kareno: Can't make|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|warrens: Hamman needs Kx or Kxx onside in @H's|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SKJ762H54DCJT9653,S54HQJ72DJT973CA2,SAQT8HK983D2CKQ87,S93HAT6DAKQ8654C4|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|medwards: Looks like unforced error in OR|pg|| mb|4D|an|shortness|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|Vugraphzfc: Nickell is asking about 5@s bid|pg|| mb|6D|nt|medwards: ?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|medwards: Why not double with club ace?|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: ?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Now Katz with a smile on his face|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: the auction did not set up force for N/S|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: big swing board|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SK973HQ82D4CKT832,SAQ8HADAQ9532CAJ5,SJ54HKT654DT6CQ96,ST62HJ973DKJ87C74|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfg: Rod "Couldn't make it" Meck "with my dummy, I find that very believable"|pg|| nt|kareno: Nickell and Katz having a fine set in the CR with a slam and a phone number.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Lee "Trying to push you, looked like you wanted to"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck "I was going to hammer 5@d"|pg|| mb|p|nt|warrens: but even so, if the Q was covered and then the 8 or 9 fell, he'd sitll have to decide if North had K98 or K8/K9|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck "4NT asks your opinion on that one"|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|d|nt|kit: 4@H probably RKC|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|r|mb|p|nt|warrens: if so, there's the danger of getting too high here|pg|| nt|kit: I guess pass shows no contol, and redouble is repeat of RKC call|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|kit: but maybe I am wrong, considering the 5@C call|pg|| nt|warrens: maybe 5@C shows 3rd round control?|pg|| nt|kareno: Or maybe it is one control in diamonds|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|warrens: I think Lee has a minimum 2@C opener and could have just bid 5@D over 4@D to show it|pg|| nt|kareno: Dummy is the strong hand - no secrets|pg|| nt|kit: Anyway, whatever was happening Lee drove to the hopeless slam|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kareno: He needs kq of clubs onside and the spade finesse|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|warrens: or KJ doubleton in @S's|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|jumpshift: Perhaps Lee thought with good trumps and no side control, partner might just bid 5@D directly over 3@D (that is how I would play it anyway)|pg|| nt|kit: Or an unlikely squeeze or defensive error.|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|kareno: Yes, or that. He's trying for the club and he'll try for the spade situation. Can't run them for a squeeze.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d2|pg|| nt|kit: sorry, no squeeze possible|pg|| nt|kareno: Exactly Kit|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|warrens: yes, good point, Joanna, depends how weak 5@D is. I would deny the K of @D's with my partner with that bid|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| nt|kit: Do we know yet what 4@H was?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|d8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| mc|11|nt|kareno: Peculiar play in spades - if there was KJ doubleton he would have been down.|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SK973HQ82D4CKT832,SAQ8HADAQ9532CAJ5,SJ54HKT654DT6CQ96,ST62HJ973DKJ87C74|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|medwards: This probably not the correct auction|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Nick said he is not going down, playing for overtricks|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|dA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h6|pc|d7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|s6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|hT|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfc: Nickell says 6@d doesn't make|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SAJT64HJ86D6C9632,S9732HAT4D53CKT85,SKHKQ92DAQ8742CAJ,SQ85H753DKJT9CQ74|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfg: I think 4@h was some form of RKC, but not sure|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|an|Precision|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|<7?|mb|p|mb|1H!|an|4+ F|mb|p|nt|kit: They bid the major here|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|prospero1: Meckwell use canape when unbalanced to get the majors quickly into the auction|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jumpshift: 2@S = 5+@S exactlly 3@H, 5-7 hcp|pg|| nt|kit: Not sure what these bids mean -- guess 2@S shows 5 spades, 3 hearts, 6-8|pg|| nt|kit: ok, 5-7|pg|| pc|s5|nt|warrens: that's my guess as well Kit|pg|| pc|s4|nt|jumpshift: Hamman did well to stay off the diamond lead, I would have lead one|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hK|nt|kit: very unattactive suit to lead from|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|warrens: declarer has no entries to dummy if the defense holds up|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|prospero1: The focus after 1@c - 1@d is to find a game if there is one, and those games are most likely 3N or 4M, hence saving room by showing the major first|pg|| nt|kareno: Feels like you just give up a trick automatically when you lead those on this auction|pg|| nt|jumpshift: I like the spade lead, just not sure I would have thought about - spades rates to be singleton by declarer|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|kit: I would have led a spade, but I might have fallen from grace and led the queen.|pg|| nt|jumpshift: but now I know :)|pg|| pc|h2|nt|warrens: that's the best shift, -2 now|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|warrens: Hamman makes life very easy for the defense|pg|| nt|kareno: Only 2?|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| nt|warrens: yes, eventually, East can be endplayed|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|c6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|warrens: oops|pg|| nt|kit: but not this way|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|mc|7|nt|prospero1: Hamman knew Meckstroth had a long minor, so not knowing which it was, both minors were dangerous|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SAJT64HJ86D6C9632,S9732HAT4D53CKT85,SKHKQ92DAQ8742CAJ,SQ85H753DKJT9CQ74|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: 3 boards to go, 17 min on the clock|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|an|good hand|mb|p|mb|2S|an|<8hcp, 5?!s|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|Vugraphzfc: Grabel is thinking|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: down to 9 min on the clock, players are clarifying bidding|pg|| pc|h7|nt|Vugraphzfc: director is in the room with us|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| nt|medwards: Both matches are probably out of reach now for the losing teams.|pg|| nt|medwards: But I have seen come-backs|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SQHK8DJ875CKT9863,SAJ8542HAQ9DACAQ2,STHJT62DQT932C754,SK9763H7543DK64CJ|sv|b|nt|warrens: if Hamman played a @D back, then -3|pg|| nt|kit: Meck had to believe East's 9 of diamonds -- why would East play it if he had a small diamond.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck "It would have been nice, Bob, had you led a @d" Rod "Still not enough"|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|prospero1: Roger keeps getting 6331's with all the aces and a couple of queens|pg|| mb|p|nt|shuster: It is possible to overbid to seven on this hand, but if you do, it appears to be making|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|kit: I wouldn't want to be playing rubber bridge against Roger this set|pg|| mb|4C!|an|Splinter|mb|p|nt|warrens: now we have a grand slam on a finesse|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|warrens: 5@D by Hamman now?|pg|| nt|kit: If he bids RKC and asks for specific kings, he will get the wrong king|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Still, he is down in the match, so bidding a grand on a finesse isn't so bad.|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|nt|warrens: ok, Lee now knows he's down to one loser (assuming trumps are good). BID IT!|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: I don't understand why Lee didn't just bid RKC -- why bring partner into the loop here?|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: He doesn't know how down they are though.|pg|| nt|shuster: I like using 2NT over 2@S to show a forward going spade raise|pg|| nt|shuster: it prevents you from wrongsiding NT, too|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|kareno: Got to go - see you all later|pg|| pc|h3|mc|13|nt|warrens: couldn't Hamman have the same hand with KQx of @D?|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SQHK8DJ875CKT9863,SAJ8542HAQ9DACAQ2,STHJT62DQT932C754,SK9763H7543DK64CJ|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|medwards: Many years ago Ron Andersen went to bed with a comfortable lead and awoke to fine that his lost!|pg|| mb|d|nt|medwards: Team|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5S|an|alert|mb|p|mb|7S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Another big swing board|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|sT|nt|ganz: well done by nickell andkatz|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|h9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4ST7542HKT96DT3C52,SA96HAQ3DKQJ4CA94,SKJ3HJ75DA975CQJ3,SQ8H842D862CKT876|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfg: Hamman "Your @h's were?"|pg|| nt|kit: he could -- which is why the grand is AT WORST on a finesse if Lee finds out about king of diamonds.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Thanks everyone! Meck "Pleasure doing business with you Robert, good screenmate" Hamman "Hasn't changed"|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Lee must thing this is a yarb compared to his previous hands|pg|| nt|warrens: I agree Kit. RKC, ask about the Q of trump and Kings, then ask again over 6@D or just bid it.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Thanks BBO, USBF, Super Jan Martel, Kit, Karen, Warren, Michael, Yuan and others! :)|pg|| pc|d5|nt|warrens: and thank you Gary, great job|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: It's a pleasure with this all-star cast, thx :)|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|warrens: yes, no stayman, so you'd lead a @H?|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|warrens: oops, discussing opening lead possibilities from North's hand. nothing looks attractive.|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Lee "Can't beat it"|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|h3|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfg: Meck "Thanks, we|pg|| nt|warrens: ok, thanks all|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: ll do the same"|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4ST7542HKT96DT3C52,SA96HAQ3DKQJ4CA94,SKJ3HJ75DA975CQJ3,SQ8H842D862CKT876|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: 5@s on board 29 was alerted, but no explanation given|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|medwards: Thx Maya|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: last board, we will resume in little over an hour|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| nt|medwards: Time for sit outs to go to Durrant's for a good steak!|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfc: thanks all, see you in an hour|pg|| nt|medwards: Bye for now|pg|| pg||