vg|2014 USBC SF B,Segment 1 of 8 ,I,1,15,Fleisher,0,Diamond,0| rs|5SN=,4SN+1,4SNx=,3NN+1,5DE+1,5DE+1,2DN+1,4CEx-2,5CE+1,3NE=,3NS+2,3NN+2,1NW-1,2HW-1,3NW-1,4CW-1,4HE=,4SW+1,2NS+2,1NS+3,2NE-1,2NE=,3NE=,2HW+1,4SN=,4SN=,2SN+1,2SN=,4HE-1,4HE-1| pn|Willenken,Bathurst,Rosenberg,Moss,Hampson,Martel,Greco,Cohler|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3ST96HK6DAK963CAK6,S7HQT732DJ874CQ54,SQJ85432HADCJT973,SAKHJ9854DQT52C82|sv|o|nt|vugraphzfv: all diamond pairs playing a form of precision|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|an|1 kc|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|vugraphzfv: rosenberg giggles when lead is made|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3ST96HK6DAK963CAK6,S7HQT732DJ874CQ54,SQJ85432HADCJT973,SAKHJ9854DQT52C82|sv|o|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SQ6HJT86DKJ63CKJ6,S753HQ9752DT2C854,SAKJT84HKDQ4CQ732,S92HA43DA9875CAT9|sv|n|mb|1D|an|10-15, 2+!D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|nt|odysseus69: 1NT was a good tactical choice|pg|| nt|Henryb: this game may not be as easy to reach after the start|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: moss really working hard here|pg|| mb|d!|an|takeout|mb|r|nt|odysseus69: hi Henry - I would raise your 2S bid to game - here a xx available|pg|| nt|Henryb: they might well|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: 2N scramble rather than guess?|pg|| mb|3C|nt|odysseus69: East "knows" his pd does not have a major |pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|Henryb: strange choice not to double|pg|| nt|Henryb: at least it appears strange to me, but what do I know|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: so many choices here strange hard to tell|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes that would be interesting - would Bathurst introduce his hearts|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3NT or 4S - both OK|pg|| nt|Henryb: 3N is okay on a minor suit lead. cloud go down on a heart lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: both matches playing same set of hands [all 4 matches played same hands in Quarters]|pg|| nt|Henryb: But Willenken wondering whether 3@d is natural|pg|| nt|ritong: certainly not|pg|| nt|ritong: he s wondering if @c KJx is ok for NTs imo|pg|| nt|Henryb: after all 1@d was 2+ and E-W have probably advertized 9+ clubs|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Henryb: remember: West responded 1N denying a major and East made a takeout double of spades|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d7|nt|ritong: which basically shows 5+ @ds|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ritong: @hs being out of the picture after 1NT|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: moss now asking about RDBL and other options|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: during the auction|pg|| nt|Henryb: can we tell him there is only one imp at stake here?|pg|| nt|meargent: moss wasvery confident that the villans would not make any up tricks|pg|| nt|Henryb: sorry, I hadn't noticed the double. it is two imps|pg|| pc|d5|nt|meargent: a mere detail henry|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|ritong: on the other hand, they have not shown any weakness during the auction, so it s more than likely that pard has improvized something because of the vulnerability|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SQ6HJT86DKJ63CKJ6,S753HQ9752DT2C854,SAKJT84HKDQ4CQ732,S92HA43DA9875CAT9|sv|n|mb|1C!|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|!h|mb|1S|mb|d!|an|3!h|mb|r|an|2!s like 1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfh: e/w rusinow, no smith echo|pg|| nt|warrens: ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfh: welcome warren spector|pg|| nt|warrens: hi all. this could only be beat with a DD Ace of @h's lead|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|jacksond: too late now gto play Heart Ace and another but that would have been a devasting opening lead|pg|| pc|d4|nt|warrens: Cohler needs to go up now or this Ace will disappear|pg|| nt|warrens: my guess is that he thinks declarer is 5224 (if @c's were count by Martel)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SAQJT5HKT986D52C9,SK92H7543DQT8CAKQ,S876HAQJ2DJ7C5432,S43HDAK9643CJT876|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|ritong: but paying for the psych is sort of moral|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: and yet -- moss apologizing|pg|| mb|2H!|an|good !S raise|mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ritong: 3@d was gutsy is it that clear that someone will bid again?|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dT|mc|12|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SAQJT5HKT986D52C9,SK92H7543DQT8CAKQ,S876HAQJ2DJ7C5432,S43HDAK9643CJT876|sv|e|nt|jacksond: On the principle that you dont want to look foolish and be left with Aces that do not cash it was right to go up. but he has swapped one Ace for anothewr|pg|| nt|warrens: ok, he's taken aware declare e's communication to the @d's, so +1|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|warrens: west doesn't have an ideal hand for a t/o double, but needs to get his values across now, before it's too late|pg|| mb|2H!|an|normal 2!s raise|nt|warrens: 2@h=constructive raise|pg|| mb|2S|nt|warrens: Cohler wants to know his partner's better minor, but how? they make 6@d weigh the @s Ace onside|pg|| mb|3S|nt|warrens: with*|pg|| nt|jacksond: Hardly will bid 6 but will NS compete to 5H|pg|| nt|warrens: Martel could X, pass or bid 3NT here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jacksond: Guess you were on solid ground warren with 3 choices|pg|| mb|5D|nt|warrens: would 4@d now be forcing? I don't think so.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens: I would have passed, but wasn't sure what Chip would do. He does have a more defensive than offensive hand.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SA8653HAJ52DKCA94,SJT74HQT97D7CKQT7,S2H843DQJT9543C82,SKQ9HK6DA862CJ653|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: mostprobably yes when brad has 2@ss, but..|pg|| mb|1D|an|10-15, 2+!D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: i think moss confirming opening 2@D by rosenberg would be artificial|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|c4|nt|ritong: threre is zero hope to make a ninth trick, but rosenberg does not like claims|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: @HK lead could be from KQ although EW udca|pg|| nt|ritong: admittedly east might hold @h KQ|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: finally rosenberg leans in and claims|pg|| nt|ritong: tenth i meant|pg|| mc|9|nt|ritong: asking who has the @h Q i guess|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SA8653HAJ52DKCA94,SJT74HQT97D7CKQT7,S2H843DQJT9543C82,SKQ9HK6DA862CJ653|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|2+|mb|1S|nt|jacksond: And Greco's first bid will be ???|pg|| mb|d|nt|jacksond: What discipline|pg|| nt|warrens: even Greco won't preempt with that hand 2nd seat vul|pg|| mb|2C!|an|!d: suit or lead|mb|p|nt|warrens: 2@c's for @d's now|pg|| mb|2D|mb|3C|mb|3D|mb|4C|nt|warrens: because Greco didn't open, Hampson knows his maximum is 10, so he's less worried about missing game here|pg|| nt|warrens: Cohler could be 3343, so hard for Martel to bid @c's now|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens: this is -2 on the Ace of @s lead, but Greco has a tough hand to sit|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|nt|warrens: he trusts his partner, but this lead changes things a lot|pg|| nt|jacksond: X not making Greco too happy. Need to get ruff I think|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|nt|warrens: Cohler doesn't know that trumps are breaking and that Hampson has no more @d's|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|jacksond: Greco relieved now|pg|| pc|c2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|mc|8|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQ7543H6532D7CK86,S92HAJD53CAJ75432,SAJ86H874DQJ862CT,SKTHKQT9DAKT94CQ9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|16+ unbal or 17+ bal|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|5+!C 12+ hcp|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: moss confirms in writing 2@C=12+ hcp|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: 1@C-1@H = 8-11, not 5+@S|pg|| mb|4D|an|RKC|mb|p|mb|4N|an|2 no Q|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: all 3 pairs for DIamond playing a form of precision|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: unless using windows bbo click on player name to access lots of info|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|Henryb: so off 2KC|pg|| nt|ritong: oui|pg|| nt|ritong: havaing a low level rkc when fit is in @cs is really cool|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: seems scary that bathurst is in the tank|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| nt|ritong: is he really envisaging to overrule this?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Henryb: he has the seventh club|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: to make up for a missing Q|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: aha bathurst asks was that keycard @C|pg|| pc|d7|nt|vugraphzfv: EW is new partnership|pg|| nt|Henryb: At the other table 3N actually made 6, not 3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|ritong: uh oh..|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|s9|pc|d2|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: before play to trick 1 NS clarifying smith echo takes precedence over suit pref at trick 2 in all contracts|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQ7543H6532D7CK86,S92HAJD53CAJ75432,SAJ86H874DQJ862CT,SKTHKQT9DAKT94CQ9|sv|n|nt|warrens: down 2?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfh: tk south ruffed @d with @cA to give @s ruff, not sure|pg|| nt|warrens: right, well done|pg|| nt|warrens: not playing a trump at trick 2 was expensive|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|an|generally unbal hand 4+!d|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|inv|mb|p|nt|warrens: 3@c natural invite|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|warrens: Cohler has 8 too tricks. he'll have to take the @c finesse, though he might delay it. first he checks for QJ doubleton of @d|pg|| nt|warrens: with the 10 of @c's falling, he has the rest|pg|| mc|9|nt|warrens: did he not see the 10? he has the rest.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfh: I swear he played the @cJ on 2nd club, felling the 9, but they agreed making 3, I could be wrong|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SKT542HQTDK7532C5,SJ9876H973DQ4C764,SHAK64DAT86CAQT83,SAQ3HJ852DJ9CKJ92|sv|e|nt|vugraphzfv: claim was long ago just wanted to confirm|pg|| mb|1D|an|10-15, 2+!D|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ritong: moss played a not-that-cold contract at the speed of light impressive|pg|| mb|2D|an|does not guarantee fit|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|Henryb: going to be hard to reach 6@d after this start|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: rosenberg knows 6 diamonds in play|pg|| nt|ritong: hi mike|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: just because 1@D = 2+ doesn't mean it had to be exactly 2 :)|pg|| pc|h7|nt|vugraphzfv: rosenberg: did we miss 7@D?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: he was channelling Mike Passell|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ritong: rosenberg surely does not like this start|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s9|pc|d8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c2|pc|s4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SKT542HQTDK7532C5,SJ9876H973DQ4C764,SHAK64DAT86CAQT83,SAQ3HJ852DJ9CKJ92|sv|e|nt|jkdood: Hi Warren and everybody|pg|| nt|jacksond: hi jay|pg|| mb|1C|an|2+|nt|warrens: welcome Jay :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|an|raise, or general GF|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|Vugraphzfh: I asked, they said "making 3"|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jacksond: maybe they said plus 3|pg|| nt|jkdood: Specs like 6@D here NS|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jacksond: they should have|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|d7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|jacksond: I suppose he can make 11 tricks but may settle for 10|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|h9|pg|| nt|jkdood: One table in Nickell match got to 3N as well; 6@D is tough to reach|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|cT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SJ97HKJD976CAQ432,SK82HT7643DAKTCKT,SAT4HQ52DQJ54C876,SQ653HA98D832CJ95|sv|b|nt|vugraphzfv: bathurst: good @D opener|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|vugraphzfv: moss: bon chance|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: 2 minute warning -- to be half way thru the set of 15 boards|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: each table is in unique hotel room - each with own time clock|pg|| nt|ganz: good morning from sunny scottsdale!|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ritong: hi|pg|| nt|ganz: i wouldn't go as far as calling them unique :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: individual?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: own|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s8|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|mc|6|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SJ97HKJD976CAQ432,SK82HT7643DAKTCKT,SAT4HQ52DQJ54C876,SQ653HA98D832CJ95|sv|b|nt|warrens: safe to exit in @h regardless|pg|| mb|1D!|an|2+!d 10-15|mb|1H|mb|1N|nt|jacksond: If EW did forgo 3 overtricks two hand ago and Hampson bothered about one extra overtick there those imps could mount up eventually|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|warrens: I see 7 tricks, but hard to get the 8th|pg|| nt|jacksond: In that case this hand may take a while to play|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfh: back to that 3N, the way he played the Jack, dropping his own 9, that would be 9 tricks (4h, 2d, 1s, 2c)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| nt|jkdood: South may have to carefully play spades to break up endplays on N that lurk in red suits|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|nt|jacksond: Jay. Is carefully the same as slowly?|pg|| nt|jkdood: "deliberate" "thoughtful" "careful" all very slow, yes :)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jkdood: Martel not on my wavelength|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAK94H943DAJT5C95,ST6HQT6DKQ976CAQ3,S8532HAK8D8432CJ2,SQJ7HJ752DCKT8764|sv|o|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|vugraphzfv: no mention about 3@C at table|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D!|an|likes !C, cue|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ganz: 1n is 14-16?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: y|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: looking at west hand you don't believe it ??|pg|| pc|hA|nt|vugraphzfv: King is strongest lead vs NT|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: moss: i had no idea how to bid this, sorry partner|pg|| nt|ganz: lol...i believe it! didn't know if they played a weaker range white|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: before play began moss did announce they frequently upgrade ... all hand types|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: and that is part of their SSF [system summary form]|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ganz: yeah. it was the same when he played with fred. especially in 3rd seat he could just have anything to open 1nt|pg|| nt|ganz: you have the occasional result like this where you get a little too high but it makes you so hard to play against|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: this pair doesn't need the 3rd seat situation -- protection some because precision limited openings which gitelman-moss did not have|pg|| nt|ganz: right--but 3rd seat also knows a lot about the opps' holdings, especially 4th seat's if they also open light as many players do|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: i wonder if rosenberg would switch to @S5 from T5xx|pg|| nt|ganz: you can give that player a brutal decision|pg|| nt|bt: south can count 6 club tricks and a spade for declarer if returning a small spade. he is presumably just doublechecking his calculations|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dA|mc|8|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAK94H943DAJT5C95,ST6HQT6DKQ976CAQ3,S8532HAK8D8432CJ2,SQJ7HJ752DCKT8764|sv|o|mb|1C!|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|!h|mb|d!|an|takeout of !c-!h|mb|1H!|an|3 hearts|nt|jkdood: Even 2@S in jeopardy here NS with the bad break in @D|pg|| nt|passell: likely Cohler will compete to 3 clubs|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jacksond: Eventuall East will support clubs although 6 card support is about the minimun nowadays|pg|| mb|3C!|an|to play|mb|p|nt|jkdood: 3@C makes easily EW if they are alowed to play there|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfh: furious scribbling|pg|| nt|jacksond: or allow themselves to plasy there. NS may not have to push them|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|jacksond: I think you should be able to support immediately with that East hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfh: 3@c would be to play if opps not bidding, west says, so in this case, in comp, 3@c is nat and invitational|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|nt|jkdood: ..would appear to be an undiscussed or new-partnership mishap EW|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3ST96H962DAT986CQJ,SA432HAJT754D4C42,SJ8HQ83DKJ75CK963,SKQ75HKDQ32CAT875|sv|e|nt|bt: that was 2 imps left on the floor by willenken|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|an|14-16|nt|bt: not like a match ever was decided by 2 imps ;)|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: and only 111 boards left to play|pg|| mb|4D|an|texas|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|vugraphzfv: quite a few 1N openers this week with stiff King or Ace - from multitude of players|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: the key is - you can't agreements - especially machinery to locate singletons|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: stiff King seems to make more sense than stiff Ace|pg|| nt|bt: in a natural framework this distribution doesnt warrant 1NT, in a strong club framework it is very plausible|pg|| nt|bt: 1@C-1X; 1@S isnt the toughest sequence ever|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: the alternative is 1@D [2@C opening promises 6+suit]|pg|| nt|ganz: yes, opening 1D then rebidding 1S is not very attractive. |pg|| nt|bt: there you go|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|ganz: a little surprising bathurst didn't try to go thru stayman before transferring|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bt: this line was a little dangerous since moss might have been stuck in hand on spades when someone holds Qxxx of hearts|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3ST96H962DAT986CQJ,SA432HAJT754D4C42,SJ8HQ83DKJ75CK963,SKQ75HKDQ32CAT875|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|2+|mb|1D|mb|d!|an|!h|mb|2N!|an|good 4fit raise|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|jacksond: Dull boards so far. But this is a 8x15 board match over two days |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfh: south doing sudoku, north drinking red bull|pg|| nt|jkdood: I guess with the "transfer advances" west has difficulty showing both majors with a single call over the 1@D|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| nt|jkdood: These so-called "dull boards" can sometimes be more grueling for the players over time; especially if behind looking for action|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|jkdood: Defense would like to tap declarer to create some pressure here|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|nt|jacksond: yes. Declare can see problems here if the majors break badly but |pg|| pc|sA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|s7|mc|11|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAT2HA84D85CQ9742,S975HKJ5DKJ73C653,SJ83HQ63DAQ64CAT8,SKQ64HT972DT92CKJ|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2H|an|bal inv, not 4+!H/!S|mb|p|mb|2S|an|forces 2N|mb|p|mb|2N|an|forced, NF|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: rosenberg explains he had choice of who plays NT|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: moss keeps cracking his nuckles and it makes my fingers hurt|pg|| pc|h5|nt|vugraphzfv: director just here checking progress - 37 on the clock 5.5 to play|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: closed room playing 12|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| nt|bt: the play in the heart suit is far from what we would expect in a trial semifinals, typo?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: did trick 1 seem like very strange play to anyone else? i can see Moss' cards and confirmed i got it right|pg|| nt|bt: maybe you were cracking your nuckles?|pg|| nt|ritong: moss estiumated that giving count was more important, maybe the @h 9 will be useful once a year|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: ahhh he thinks Rule of 11 still in effect in 21st century :)|pg|| nt|bt: it didnt actually cost a trick anyway, at least in the short run|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: CC does say 4th vs NT|pg|| nt|bt: tough to lead from 3 then|pg|| nt|bt: hence bathurst must lead a diamond|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: IF agreement is 3rd/5th does everyone know which Rule [other than 11] to apply??|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: moss confirming P-1@D-2@C = nat|pg|| nt|bt: it is actually called rule of 10/12 in some places|pg|| nt|bt: the lead of 3rd/5th|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: and how do you figure out which one to apply?|pg|| nt|bt: you dont normally|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: trick questions: i already know the answers|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: Rule of 15|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: subtract number of length lead from 15 that says which rule to apply|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h7|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d3|pc|s8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s9|pc|d4|pc|h9|pg|| nt|bt: now bathurst needs some serious unblocking|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h6|mc|10|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAT2HA84D85CQ9742,S975HKJ5DKJ73C653,SJ83HQ63DAQ64CAT8,SKQ64HT972DT92CKJ|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+!d 10-15|nt|jkdood: yet another "dull"... maybe calm before the storm, hopefully|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|jacksond: Hampson passed a ten count. What time is it in USA|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: The 11-point "short"/nebulous 1@D opening has been a success most of this week when used|pg|| mb|p|nt|jkdood: (Hampson "close" to an upgrade)|pg|| nt|jacksond: NV I think they play 10-15 balanced?|pg|| pc|s7|nt|jkdood: http://bridgefiles.net/pdf/greco-hampson.pdf|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c8|nt|jkdood: (But beware there are often different versions on the web, as we have learned this week)|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h9|pc|c4|nt|jkdood: This contract is a make|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d3|pc|s3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|dK|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SKJ8743H4DK86CJ64,S52HJ975DQ52CQ872,S96HQ32DJT974CAKT,SAQTHAKT86DA3C953|sv|o|nt|bt: another imp away ...|pg|| mb|2H|an|weak 2!S|mb|p|mb|2S|an|to play|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|vugraphzfv: examples: 4th best 15-4 = Rule of 11 3rd 15-3=Rule of 12|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: the rest is left as exercise for the reader|pg|| nt|bt: similar bidding in the other room, hampson chose to lead his partners suit, hearts|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d8|nt|vugraphzfv: std discard|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|h9|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|mc|7|nt|ganz: table def in time trouble now, should be about 17min for the net 4|pg|| nt|ganz: next|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: director: guys pass a few out please [17 on the clock]|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SKJ8743H4DK86CJ64,S52HJ975DQ52CQ872,S96HQ32DJT974CAKT,SAQTHAKT86DA3C953|sv|o|nt|jkdood: Maybe Meckwell will reach 3N (other match same deals)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|jacksond: Well East has the spades well stopped if they are led into him but|pg|| pc|h9|nt|jkdood: Obviously a good lead here for EW chances|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| nt|jacksond: club lead would have been effective|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|nt|jkdood: South seems to have a knack for helping Cohler at the moment|pg|| nt|jacksond: Yes Declarer and South doing each others work|pg|| nt|jkdood: With @Cs 3-3 and the J@H an entry; things just lie well for EW with thoughtful play|pg|| nt|jacksond: Back in ten mins|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|jkdood: If N has @D K; hand has very little hope; so East really had to try that, and breathes a sigh|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|nt|Vugraphzfh: east threw up his hands and called the @dQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|h7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h6|nt|jkdood: Surprised to see the Bd 8 accident 4@C down 1 a push, EW other table stumbled into 3N, also down 1|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|jkdood: EW had 20 hcp and got to a lofty spot in both rooms|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJ5HK876DJ64CT843,SK9HAT943DKT87C62,SA8732HJ2D92CAK75,SQT64HQ5DAQ53CQJ9|sv|n|mb|1H|an|10-15|mb|1S|nt|ganz: oh, those wacky directors|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: i think moss just said 3N= 12-15|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s8|pc|d3|mc|9|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJ5HK876DJ64CT843,SK9HAT943DKT87C62,SA8732HJ2D92CAK75,SQT64HQ5DAQ53CQJ9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|jkdood: EW could find hearts in this deal's replay; not playing well if in 3 or 4 - so a good Fleisher result|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|jkdood: A thin 3N EW here could be reached if West balances|pg|| mb|p|nt|jkdood: Might need to avoid misguessing the @S J for any real chance there|pg|| nt|jkdood: 3@C 1@S and 1@H are also likely for the defense to NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|jkdood: Not Vul facing a passed hand, Cohler made a sensible pass to 2@H|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|jkdood: EVen with the untidy trump split, this is low enough to make comfortably it seems|pg|| pc|d9|nt|jkdood: A good dimaond shift creates some threats; continuing a club sets up the Hobson-like fork where a spade up will require N to fly A|pg|| nt|jkdood: (If N ducks his @S the other one goes away on the good club)|pg|| nt|jacksond: Other table is two boards behind us (It includes at least one very 'careful' player)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|jkdood: Not to point fingers; but Mr. Moss has been "extremely careful" many times this week; opponent Sontag was not particularly amused|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SKT32H943DAQ84C84,S87HT865D976CAQJ9,SQJ94HAJDKJ5CK632,SA65HKQ72DT32CT75|sv|b|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|mb|3C|an|mod puppet|mb|d|mb|3D|an|not 5!H/!S|nt|vugraphzfv: not sure if DBL affects the 3@D call|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|an|4!S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: but i think it DID show @D stop|pg|| pc|c5|nt|vugraphzfv: sorry @C stop|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h5|mc|10|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SKT32H943DAQ84C84,S87HT865D976CAQJ9,SQJ94HAJDKJ5CK632,SA65HKQ72DT32CT75|sv|b|mb|1N|an|13+-16|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|jkdood: On the other hand, the tempo might suit Mr. Rosenberg (opponent in other room today) just fine|pg|| mb|2S!|an|normal response, but promises !c stop|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|jkdood: A Meckwell-light 4@S makes here NS|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|jacksond: Well if you are not worried about the bar shutting early whats the rush|pg|| nt|jkdood: Black suits both behaving nicely|pg|| nt|jkdood: Its those gruesome "hovering" directors that scare ya :)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h8|nt|jacksond: sswitch needed to hold this to ten tricks|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S54HAK96DA4C98752,SA932H8532DKQ2CQJ,SQJT876H74DJT7CA3,SKHQJTD98653CKT64|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|an|not 3+!S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|vugraphzfv: J = Q or short|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|nt|vugraphzfv: 2 minute warning bell|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: make that beep|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h8|pc|s8|pc|c6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S54HAK96DA4C98752,SA932H8532DKQ2CQJ,SQJT876H74DJT7CA3,SKHQJTD98653CKT64|sv|o|nt|jkdood: The long @D might actually be needed for the club loser in some variations|pg|| mb|p|nt|jacksond: well Hampson wont pass this|pg|| mb|1D!|an|2+!d 10-15|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|jkdood: EW may get shutout although 3@D has play EW|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jkdood: NS can set it wih a ruff though|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| nt|jacksond: maybe 10 tricks now with heart position|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jacksond: but dnge hands on this boardont reckon many imps are going to cha|pg|| nt|jacksond: dont reckon many imops etc|pg|| nt|jkdood: After Bd 15 will be a short break; time to thank our great VU Op Dan for efforts and info, David, Mike, and Warren|pg|| nt|jacksond: my one finger typing isnt getting any better with age|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|jkdood: And now the match is tied as Diamond EW went down in 2N made here|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAQJ65HDKJT3CQJ42,SK4HAKJ95DA95CAK5,S973HQ743D8764CT7,ST82HT862DQ2C9863|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfv: final board of 1st octet|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: restart when ALL rooms ready to begin|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d|nt|vugraphzfv: time has expired |pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: i'm told one room in other match just had opening lead to 13|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ganz: i'd guess that's lee's table|pg|| nt|ganz: nope he's not even in |pg|| nt|ganz: oops :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: grabel-weinstein v nickell-katz|pg|| nt|ganz: usually not super slow|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|h8|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAQJ65HDKJT3CQJ42,SK4HAKJ95DA95CAK5,S973HQ743D8764CT7,ST82HT862DQ2C9863|sv|n|nt|jkdood: Getting a spade lead INTO AQT, and still prevailed on defense|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfh: should be restarting in 30 minutes|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Last board of the set, Thanks USBF and Jan and team, and of course BBO and helpful specs|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d|nt|jacksond: weel one big hand but not likely to generate action looking at the other hands|pg|| nt|jkdood: Which major will win out here?|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: 4 is probably way high for either side|pg|| nt|jkdood: @C lead best for S|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jacksond: well South must not lead a diamond and hardly will|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jkdood: Well the NV 23 high 3N was indeed bid by Moss-Bathurst, and came home to give Diamond 6 imps and the lead again|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jkdood: a low @C lead would be better on this layout, but heck, without peeking, its too tuff|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| mc|9|nt|jacksond: second set of 15 boards starts after very short break|pg|| pg||