vg|2014 USBC QF B,Segment 2 of 8,I,31,45,Fleisher,33,Seligman,36| rs|6HN=,4HS+2,2SW+1,3SW=,5CN=,3NN-2,3NE=,3NE+2,3NE+3,4SW=,3DN-1,2SE-2,4HE=,4HE=,6HS+1,6HS+1,4SW=,4SW=,2HW-1,2SN=,4CS-2,4SW+1,3DW=,1NW-1,4HE-1,2SS-1,2NS-2,3NS-3,1HE-2,1HE-3| pn|Willenken,Cheek,Rosenberg,Bertens,Lair,Fleisher,Gu,Martel|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SQJ7HKQ3DQJCA8762,S654HJ4D832CQT954,SAK83HAT985DK975C,ST92H762DAT64CKJ3|sv|n|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S!|an|4M 5OM [Smolen]|mb|p|mb|4C!|an|cue for !H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|andyv: Hi Al and everyone|pg|| mb|5S|an|2+q|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: greetings Andy|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: willenken confirms rosenberg COULD have re-transferred|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|mc|12|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SQJ7HKQ3DQJCA8762,S654HJ4D832CQT954,SAK83HAT985DK975C,ST92H762DAT64CKJ3|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S|an|alert|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SK4HQ8542DT87CAJ9,SA9863HJ3DK93C753,SQJ2HKT976DJ4CT84,ST75HADAQ652CKQ62|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|andyv: always nice to start by bidding and making a slam...unless you are the other side.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|vugraphzfv: willenken ALWAYS pauses before playing to trick 1|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|andyv: always a good idea|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|andyv: probably more tricks and contracts blown at trick 1 than any other trick.|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|andyv: W has 1 more spade and 2 clubs to lose...so, claim time.|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: one of first books i read was ?Fred Karpin's? Play at Trick One|pg|| nt|andyv: board 1 a 13 imp pick up for Fleisher team as slam was not bid in the other room|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c2|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|c6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cT|nt|andyv: minute chance of overtrick in no @c shift|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SK4HQ8542DT87CAJ9,SA9863HJ3DK93C753,SQJ2HKT976DJ4CT84,ST75HADAQ652CKQ62|sv|e|nt|ganz: Hello all from Scottsdale|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|3D|an|!h raise|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s4|pc|s6|mc|9|pg|| qx|o33|st||md|3SQ9HQDKJ72CK98765,SA4HJT984D9864C43,ST75HA732DAQCAJT2,SKJ8632HK65DT53CQ|sv|o|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|2S!|an|weaker than 2!D|nt|vugraphzfv: 2@D is used to show GOOD major 1-suiter|pg|| nt|andyv: wow you are fast Al!|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: coca cola --- for medicinal purposes only|pg|| nt|andyv: S has an interesting hand|pg|| nt|andyv: and we can see that 5@c makes but not 3NT|pg|| mb|2N|an|trf leb, competitive+|mb|3S|nt|Jordan12: Willenken would like to say sonething here|pg|| nt|Jordan12: m|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: 2N was @C or @C & @D|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|andyv: nice bid by S...especially since pd has the perfect hand|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: nice system/bids by both N & S|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: is it as easy if Cheek does NOT bid 3@S?|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sJ|nt|andyv: I don't think it's easy even after the 4@c bid here|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: @SK for the guess!|pg|| pc|sK|nt|andyv: now only chance for defence|pg|| pc|c9|nt|andyv: Al, did W take some time before returning the @s?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: in tempo|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|andyv: good play by N|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c33|st||md|3SQ9HQDKJ72CK98765,SA4HJT984D9864C43,ST75HA732DAQCAJT2,SKJ8632HK65DT53CQ|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|2D|an|1 major|nt|ganz: most of the top pairs now play that 2d bid showing 1M over 1NT|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ganz: 5 trick swing on finding the right lead|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c5|mc|7|pg|| qx|o34|st||md|4S96HT862D98CAKJ43,SKJ7HKQ753D4CQ652,SQ843H94DQJ7652CT,SAT52HAJDAKT3C987|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfv: was that a sigh of relief from rosenberg?|pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2D|an|trf|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andyv: 11 more imps to Fleisher as 3NT was bid, down 2 on board 33|pg|| nt|andyv: there, E chose 2@d (single major) and S just bid 3NT|pg|| nt|andyv: tough hand for S to lead from after this bidding|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: other room probably std lebensohl so 2N wouldn't have helped|pg|| nt|Jordan12: There was a chance of blundering in to 4 hearts, but luckyly not.|pg|| pc|d9|nt|Jordan12: Nice lead.|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: @D= shows 10 IF 4+suit|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: this is set 3 of 8 -- in spite of what table title says :(|pg|| nt|andyv: for those curious, we are on the 3rd segment of 8...not the 2nd.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|c2|pc|d2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c34|st||md|4S96HT862D98CAKJ43,SKJ7HKQ753D4CQ652,SQ843H94DQJ7652CT,SAT52HAJDAKT3C987|sv|n|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2D|an|!h|mb|d|mb|p|an|<3!h|mb|p|nt|ganz: e-w pretty close to making 2d-xx|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|jtmckee: 9 tricks relatively easy as the cards lie|pg|| nt|jtmckee: hello sam|pg|| nt|scoolik: Jay|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| nt|jtmckee: declarer held himself to 9 tricks in the other room|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o35|st||md|1ST632H7DJ972CJT74,SAKQJ95HQJ9D63CAQ,S74HAK86D84CK9632,S8HT5432DAKQT5C85|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|andyv: declarer couldn't untangle his tricks so made 3|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|an|semi-F|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|vugraphzfv: bertens: no clubs??|pg|| nt|andyv: E will run @s and S will have to keep Jxxx of @d|pg|| nt|Jordan12: Good lead againby W. but to no avail.|pg|| nt|andyv: he may want to unblock his @cs here|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c9|pc|h3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|andyv: making 6|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: willenken: i suck|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c35|st||md|1ST632H7DJ972CJT74,SAKQJ95HQJ9D63CAQ,S74HAK86D84CK9632,S8HT5432DAKQT5C85|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|s2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o36|st||md|2SJHK72DK73CJT9432,S5HT98654DA64CK85,SKT432HA3DJT982CQ,SAQ9876HQJDQ5CA76|sv|b|nt|andyv: descriptive|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|an|[1/2] 5!S & 4+!C/!D, 10-13 hcp|mb|p|mb|2N|an|ask|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| nt|andyv: if N leads a @s, must take care to ruff with 7@d|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: either way there seems to be trouble up ahead|pg|| nt|andyv: should N play Q@c now?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: but that's only because i can see EW hands [shhh don't tell anyone]|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|andyv: it's tempting to ruff @s and ruff @h on way back|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d9|pc|s6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg|| nt|andyv: looks like down 1|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: i lost play after trump pulled :(|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugraphzfv: rosenberg: probably not good result for the system|pg|| pg|| qx|c36|st||md|2SJHK72DK73CJT9432,S5HT98654DA64CK85,SKT432HA3DJT982CQ,SAQ9876HQJDQ5CA76|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg|| nt|jtmckee: east looks like down 1|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s6|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|h7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| mc|6|nt|jtmckee: style points pair of deuces to claim|pg|| pg|| qx|o37|st||md|3SQT43H63DT92CA752,S987HKQJT8D75CT96,SJ2H94DKJ643CKJ43,SAK65HA752DAQ8CQ8|sv|n|mb|p|mb|2N|an|20-21|nt|andyv: defense couldn't untangle...eventually had to give 8th trick in @s suit to declarer|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: jacoby & cog or texas or 3N ???|pg|| nt|andyv: better not be 3NT|pg|| nt|andyv: jacoby seems reasonable|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: just look at west hand please :)|pg|| nt|andyv: I am|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|an|trf|mb|p|mb|4H|an|4-fit, not best|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: bertens explaining he had other superaccepts available|pg|| nt|Jordan12: If that is real, the pause by Willenken is afwul.|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|mc|10|nt|andyv: very little to the play|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: he really only played 1 round of trump before claiming|pg|| pg|| qx|c37|st||md|3SQT43H63DT92CA752,S987HKQJT8D75CT96,SJ2H94DKJ643CKJ43,SAK65HA752DAQ8CQ8|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: Doesn't happen often|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|an|2+!c|mb|p|nt|jtmckee: 4h e-w looks like par|pg|| mb|1D|an|!h|mb|p|mb|3H|an|good 18-19|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ganz: yes pretty normal spot|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|h2|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o38|st||md|4SAQHA8742DAT986CQ,S642HT3D72CKJ9872,SK87HKJ95DQJ4CA64,SJT953HQ6DK53CT53|sv|e|nt|andyv: even you would make it, Al|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: 1@H usually denies 4@S|pg|| mb|2N|an|fg 4+ fit|nt|andyv: on 36, N passed in CR and E ended up playing 2@s...for 7 imp swing to Seligman|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: 2N either bal or strong splinter|pg|| mb|3S!|nt|vugraphzfv: hmm i thought 3@S = 5(422), non-min|pg|| nt|andyv: almost looks like a splinter bid with 3NT asking which?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: thought he was just deciding whether to admit to non-min some singleton or non-min 5@H 5@D(21)|pg|| nt|andyv: I wonder if they've incorporated minimum and maximum splinters|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: they have Andy|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: immediate splinter = 12-14|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|an|relay|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|andyv: 4@d=stiff @c?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: or 5@H 4@D 22|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: at least that's how they played the auction last year|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: most of their relays use LMH responses lo-mid-hi|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: so 2nd step refers to @D|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andyv: somehow they got there...less than 50% but should make.|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: NS both confirm south shows 2542 non-min|pg|| nt|andyv: lol|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|andyv: Chris have his fingers crossed behind his back?|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|Jordan12: Less than 50% it is not.|pg|| mc|13|nt|vugraphzfv: asks about @DK before claiming 12 or 13|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: short break|pg|| nt|andyv: sorry...that was private to someone asking about 7@h!|pg|| nt|Jordan12: No problem, I am not sure the percentage of 6 hearts as is old evening fir me.|pg|| nt|Jordan12: for|pg|| nt|Jordan12: Younger seems to be ...|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: 3 of 4 have returned but 4th arrives and another leaves|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: here we go|pg|| pg|| qx|c38|st||md|4SAQHA8742DAT986CQ,S642HT3D72CKJ9872,SK87HKJ95DQJ4CA64,SJT953HQ6DK53CT53|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2S|an|alert|nt|ganz: another slam hand for n-s|pg|| nt|jtmckee: 13 tricks there for the taking n-s see if they contract for 12|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtmckee: not an automatic make at 121|pg|| mb|3D|an|alert|mb|p|mb|3H|an|alert|nt|jtmckee: 2s must be some balanced heart raise|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|an|alert|mb|p|nt|jtmckee: now q bidding they will find out they are missing q tr and k of ds|pg|| nt|dburn: some sense in swapping 2@s and 2NT over a 1@h opening, so that 2@s is Jacoby and 2NT a spade hand|pg|| nt|jtmckee: clint eastwood moment "do you feel lucky/"|pg|| mb|3N|an|alert|mb|p|mb|4S|an|alert|mb|p|nt|jtmckee: 4s prob rkc|pg|| mb|5D|nt|dburn: the odds change somewhat on bidding seven when some of the time you go down in seven, you also go down in six|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: but bidding seven here would be pretty desperate stuff|pg|| nt|jtmckee: will they bid 6?|pg|| mb|6H|nt|jtmckee: for a push :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|jtmckee: on a bad day 6 goes down|pg|| nt|jtmckee: but this is a good day for N-S|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|mc|13|pg|| qx|o39|st||md|1S6HA76DKQ9842CQ85,SKJ753HQ2D53CAK92,S82HKT93DT7CJT743,SAQT94HJ854DAJ6C6|sv|b|mb|1D|nt|andyv: both rooms reached the slam on 38|pg|| mb|1S|nt|vugraphzfv: i'm told i can type notes as they happen so no more waiting for tray to move to other side of screen|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: notes = bids|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Jordan12: Very hard for N/S to do anything .|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: couldn't see what bertens wrote|pg|| pc|dT|nt|vugraphzfv: willenken: that's all???|pg|| mc|10|nt|andyv: Chris is right....good hand and just enough to make game|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: no card played -- cheek just claimed 10|pg|| pg|| qx|c39|st||md|1S6HA76DKQ9842CQ85,SKJ753HQ2D53CAK92,S82HKT93DT7CJT743,SAQT94HJ854DAJ6C6|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|jtmckee: 4s e-w|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtmckee: minor suit saves can go for numbers with accurate defense|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d4|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|mc|10|pg|| qx|o40|st||md|2SAKJH874D973CAQ98,ST87HAKQJ52DQ6C62,S96432HT6DKJ4CJ73,SQ5H93DAT852CKT54|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|an|semi-f|nt|ady: hi all|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|andyv: a simple auction by W...didn't try to do too much with his solid 6 bagger|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| nt|andyv: in mp, S probably would have balanced with a dbl|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ady: touch and go|pg|| nt|Jordan12: One feels that in this match there could have been some crash(more .|pg|| nt|andyv: hi David|pg|| nt|ady: hi Andy|pg|| nt|andyv: so W will have to look at the minors for his 8th trick.|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|ady: may have to play Q@D and duck when covered to make|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s2|pc|d5|nt|ady: no end play available|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|h5|nt|andyv: now has to lose 2@s, 1@d and 1@c|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h2|nt|andyv: both can pitch a @d here|pg|| pc|d4|pc|sQ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|andyv: end of road|pg|| nt|andyv: result from CR in...2@s making 2|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: good exercise for improving players -- when rosenberg know that willenken held @SJ even though he won trick 1 with @SK|pg|| nt|andyv: in that room, S did double in the pass out seat|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c40|st||md|2SAKJH874D973CAQ98,ST87HAKQJ52DQ6C62,S96432HT6DKJ4CJ73,SQ5H93DAT852CKT54|sv|o|mb|1H|nt|jtmckee: 2 level seems max for both sides|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|an|semi-forcing|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|ganz: n-s should be able to beat 2h on trmp leads|pg|| nt|dburn: good effort|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|dburn: well, they might, but declarer could always win a trump lead and play @dQ|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|dburn: so, better to bid 2@s just in case he was going to do that|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ganz: true|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jtmckee: he has to get the clubs right this will go down i predict|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| nt|dburn: actually, come to think of it you're right - one trump lead would do|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|dburn: well, he is not without hope of getting the clubs right, since West will have produced nine cards in the majors|pg|| nt|pef: suppose he just pitches a club? what else can he lose now but 2 diamonds|pg|| nt|dburn: well, if they play a diamond and he misguesses they can play another diamond and then a heart, ruffed with @sQ|pg|| nt|dburn: then, he would lose a spade|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|dburn: here, of course, they can just play a spade and declarer will not have enough entries to pick up the clubs|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d8|nt|dburn: but a heart is better if declarer ruffs, since he will go down two...|pg|| nt|dburn: ...unless East discards on it - did he really do that?|pg|| nt|jtmckee: if that wasa really happened he can now make it|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, he did|pg|| nt|dburn: most odd|pg|| nt|jtmckee: j of clubs and he is home|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|s9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|jtmckee: drumroll|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h5|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| nt|dburn: oh, well - nothing terribly exciting; the contract was cold and declarer made it|pg|| nt|jtmckee: i wonder why he ducked the setting trick?|pg|| pg|| qx|o41|st||md|3SJ32H2D8532CAKQ95,SAKT974HAK6DKQTCJ,S65HJ954DAJ6CT843,SQ8HQT873D974C762|sv|e|nt|andyv: Q@d= hoping that S bared down to stiff J@d|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: table in unison on @DQ nice try|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|nt|andyv: practicing for the usbc choir?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|andyv: 1@c opener not to everyone's taste|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ady: 11 tricks in spades |pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: even 3rd seat???|pg|| nt|ady: east has a more than useful hand for west|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: 1@C looked automatic to me -- without even counting points|pg|| nt|andyv: I would have thought it looked more like a 3@c opener |pg|| mb|4C|nt|andyv: and, no, I would not have passed the S hand ;0|pg|| mb|p|nt|andyv: esp. with the shortness in the majors|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: oh that :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|andyv: :)|pg|| mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sT|nt|andyv: and 1@c may have the desired result as it looks like 4@s is a make|pg|| nt|ady: surprised no action from east west showed a big hand|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c6|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|andyv: best part of E's hand was bid by N|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|mc|8|nt|andyv: 4@s bid and made 5 in CR|pg|| pg|| qx|c41|st||md|3SJ32H2D8532CAKQ95,SAKT974HAK6DKQTCJ,S65HJ954DAJ6CT843,SQ8HQT873D974C762|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtmckee: but good point dburns flat hand :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Martel says it was not a well played hand all around|pg|| mb|1C|mb|d|nt|dburn: oh, I don't know - I thought Fleisher did OK, and Lair played the dummy pretty well|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Lair was the dummy; he asked Gu why he flew up with K@d|pg|| nt|dburn: then his conduct of the post mortem was also accurate, if a trifle insensitive|pg|| nt|jtmckee: llol|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|jtmckee: good 3s bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|dburn: indeed - he would have had a sophisticated 3@c bid available to show both majors, had not Gu bid it first|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o42|st||md|4ST764HJ865D842CAT,SA532HQT7DAKT7CJ3,SQJHA42DJ9CKQ9764,SK98HK93DQ653C852|sv|b|nt|andyv: 11 imps to Fleisher team which has had 3 double digit swings this set|pg|| nt|Jordan12: Cheek and Bertens have theyre system, but if they can not find 5-3 fit.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|an|4+|nt|Jordan12: Then that is not good.|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|ady: west only bid 2@S on 2nd round after a take-out double in CR but still east bid 3@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|andyv: in CR, S also opened 1@c but W, after dbl, did not jump to 3@s but bid only 2...when N competed with 3@c, E raised @s and the game was found.|pg|| mb|3D|nt|andyv: we'll never know if N had passed whether E would have raised.|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: SW both shudder when they see THREE @D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|vugraphzfv: immediate 2@D [over 2@C] would be artificial|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: should say double take rather than shudder|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|ady: this can make on correct heart view|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c7|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: for historians that might have been @C6|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: blame optometrist or my parents|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| nt|andyv: can't blame your parents, Al. They've been through enough.|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|dT|pg|| nt|andyv: still down to a guess....if declarer ends up in dummy, he may well finesse the J of @h thru S|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s3|mc|9|pg|| qx|c42|st||md|4ST764HJ865D842CAT,SA532HQT7DAKT7CJ3,SQJHA42DJ9CKQ9764,SK98HK93DQ653C852|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|2+!c|mb|p|mb|1S|an|no 4 major|mb|p|nt|dburn: transfer responses, by the look of it|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ganz: yes indeed|pg|| nt|ganz: becoming standard here at this level|pg|| nt|jtmckee: club lead for the set|pg|| pc|c7|nt|dburn: rather surprising swing to Fleisher for bidding a cold 4@s in this room - in the other, Rosenberg may have put Bertens off by bidding hearts|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|d2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h3|pc|s7|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|hT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Gu studying the dummy|pg|| nt|dburn: well, if he doesn't see the ace of hearts there, perhaps he will realise that this is because he has it himself|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o43|st||md|1SK543H52DQ85CQ865,SAJ9HKT64DJ6CJT97,SQT87HQ93DAK42C32,S62HAJ87DT973CAK4|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|an|4-fit|nt|andyv: 5 imps to Seligman when 1NT went down 1 in CR on 42|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ady: can get a spade away on 4th club but still too much to do |pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ady: 5 trump tricks 3 clubs and 1 spade|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| nt|andyv: if declarer could have led @d off the board, he might have prevailed if N went up with the Ace|pg|| nt|ady: how would it help?|pg|| nt|andyv: ruffing finesse in @d for 10th trick....|pg|| nt|andyv: but just not enough entries and N would have ducked |pg|| nt|ady: but if North went up with A@D and switched to a spade still down 1 |pg|| nt|ady: I think the only real chance is North having Q@C and not 4 clubs|pg|| nt|ady: Andy|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: still here -- in case anyone was worried|pg|| nt|andyv: I was Al|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: i can confirm that willenken does know that he's on lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: it had to be said :)|pg|| nt|andyv: is this the dinner break coming up for them?|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: there were 2 hands last night where passell/jacobus were not aware of who was on lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: no the long late lunch break was after set 2|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jtmckee: i wonder why he didnt try something spectacular in hearts|pg|| pc|s9|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|andyv: no will ruff @s eventually and take @c hook|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c43|st||md|1SK543H52DQ85CQ865,SAJ9HKT64DJ6CJT97,SQT87HQ93DAK42C32,S62HAJ87DT973CAK4|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|jtmckee: this figures to be a good result for e-w |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|dburn: does it?|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| nt|jtmckee: i would think so yes|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|dburn: can North-South do much better than plus 110?|pg|| nt|jtmckee: i meanta n-s dyslexxic|pg|| nt|jtmckee: sorry :0|pg|| nt|jtmckee: 18 hcp to 22 etc|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|nt|jtmckee: well how wrong could i be|pg|| pc|h8|pc|sK|pg|| nt|dburn: there are some pairs of my acquaintance for whom minus 110 is a good result because their usual results have an extra 0 on the end, but...|pg|| nt|jtmckee: go back to original erroneus statement|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|dburn: that's not a vastly anti-percentage way to play spades, mind|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o44|st||md|2SK9HAT842DAK5CA98,SAT7HQJ9653D98CJT,S6543HK7DQ73C6532,SQJ82HDJT642CKQ74|sv|n|nt|andyv: all that work for 3 imps to Fleisher |pg|| mb|2D!|an|4-10 weak 2!H or 2!S|nt|vugraphzfv: and the notes come out|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|an|pass/correct|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|andyv: if we are to believe the CR, 2@d also multi was passed by E|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: they learned that from Kit Woolsey who professes 2@D [weak 2M] should be passed much more frequently than it is|pg|| nt|andyv: it worked well for EW in the CR|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|andyv: here E could have been playing 2@h with a void|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: cheek explains @D2 = odd/even [so pref for @C]|pg|| nt|andyv: he can count to 6|pg|| nt|andyv: and with E having entries, that will be about all the tricks S can get but still should win 3 imps|pg|| nt|andyv: there may be some endplay possibilities if S can duck the first @c from W if E doesn't overtake it|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: actually this event played under WBF system/convention rules |pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: i.e. NOT ACBL|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: but all of the acbl vugraph events do allow it - but users MUST supply opponents with copy of published defenses|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: and opponents can refer to the write-up during the auction|pg|| nt|andyv: well, multi is pretty new....only been around for 20-30 years or so|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: i think that now applies in WBF events too - maybe a european con confirm|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|nt|andyv: now some endplay possibilities |pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|andyv: never mind....@s play was slow in coming on my screen|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h6|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| nt|andyv: better cash out|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: east getting squeezed down to a claim|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c44|st||md|2SK9HAT842DAK5CA98,SAT7HQJ9653D98CJT,S6543HK7DQ73C6532,SQJ82HDJT642CKQ74|sv|n|nt|jtmckee: no hudecek loves to rant on that combination|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: last two boards of this segment. We will have a short break, and resume within 15-20 min for the final segment of the day|pg|| mb|2D|an|multi|nt|Vugraphzfc: N/S are given prepared notes for defense to the multi 2@d; N/S will use "option 2"|pg|| nt|jtmckee: this is a good hand to not be declarer|pg|| nt|dburn: good idea - option 1 worked poorly yesterday|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: mind you, from what I could gather option 1 looked like a lot of nonsense, so this was not surprising|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|jtmckee: lets find that on the option sheet a 4th hand dbl of 2D|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|dburn: normally just takeout of diamonds - South viewing his hand as too strong for 2NT in fourth seat|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: everyone is quiet, no writen notes yet, so I don't know what they are yet|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|jtmckee: after 2d was passed in 3rd seat it is doubtful you want to declare this hand|pg|| nt|dburn: but North thinks South has a bit more than he does, I guess - like a 2NT opening|pg|| nt|dburn: no, it's not - partner could have a balanced elevn count and not bid over 2@d|pg|| nt|jtmckee: lo heart to 7 |pg|| nt|dburn: maybe, but that would work poorly if West actually had spades|pg|| nt|dburn: still, if West had spades he might (but not necessarily would) have led them|pg|| nt|ganz: and fleisher is very aggressive. although probably not qj653 aggrssive.|pg|| nt|jtmckee: which is entirely possible|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c3|nt|jtmckee: i wonder why he didnt try something spectacular in hearts|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d8|nt|dburn: the good news is that 2NT would not have made either|pg|| nt|jtmckee: this is true|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o45|st||md|3SKJHKT84DA86CQJ86,S982HQJ53DQ743CT3,ST643HA2DJT5CK974,SAQ75H976DK92CA52|sv|b|nt|andyv: down 2 and 3 more imps to Fleisher who has enjoyed a very good set|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: final board of the 3rd octet|pg|| nt|andyv: this is the last board of this set. Thank you Al for a terrific job.|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: next set 25 min|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: thx all|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|andyv: and ty David for joining us as well as Birgir and, of course, thank you to all the specs.|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: i'm not sure about the alert :( both EW players writing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: maybe 4+@H??|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzfv: can't be -- at least it wasn't in previous set|pg|| nt|andyv: and not on their card|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: in other room 1@D WAS showing 4+@H|pg|| nt|andyv: acbl CC that is|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|andyv: both sides in same contract|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|andyv: on their system summary card it shows 1@c - 1@d as natural (or) 0-7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|nt|andyv: this is the (or) part :)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|vugraphzfv: thanks andy|pg|| nt|andyv: wlc|pg|| mc|5|nt|andyv: in CR, same auction but 1@d was a xfer to @hs (or showed @hs)|pg|| nt|andyv: thank you everyone...enjoy the rest of what promises to be a terrific show.|pg|| pg|| qx|c45|st||md|3SKJHKT84DA86CQJ86,S982HQJ53DQ743CT3,ST643HA2DJT5CK974,SAQ75H976DK92CA52|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfc: Sorry everyone, internet problem, had to re-log in|pg|| nt|jtmckee: np|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Lair said he should hav left them in 2@dx|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Fleisher says it was close to making|pg|| mb|1C|an|2+!c|mb|p|mb|1D|an|!h|mb|p|nt|jtmckee: 180 is better than 300|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: last board, thanks to everyone watching and our wonderful comentators|pg|| nt|ganz: see you in half an hour for the last set|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: all matches play the same boards, so we will wait for everyone to be ready to resume |pg|| mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Gu has a question for Martel, screen is down|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: 1@h was min hand with 2-3 @h|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|c4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d3|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|s3|mc|4|nt|Vugraphzfc: The other table is in the same contract|pg|| pg||