vg|2014 Vanderbilt A QF,Segment 2 of 4,I,17,32,Monaco,43,Gromov,15| rs|4SEx-3,4HN-1,3SN=,4SN=,4HN-2,4HS-1,5CNx-1,5CNx-1,3NS=,3NN=,4HN-2,3HN-1,4HW=,3NW+2,3HE=,3HE+1,4HWx+2,5HExx=,3NS+1,3NS=,6DE-2,5DE=,1NW-1,3HW-1,6NE=,6NE=,4HN=,2HN+2,4NS=,4HS+1,4HW-1,3NW=| pn|Nunes,Madala,Fantoni,Bocchi,Dubinin,Helgemo,Gromov,Helness|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3ST3HQ53DA964CKQ95,SK7HT9DJT832CA872,SA84HAK62DKQ5CT63,SQJ9652HJ874D7CJ4|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfd: here we go|pg|| mb|1C|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing 14+ unbal or 15+ bal|pg|| mb|d|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: all 1-suit openers are forcing in fantunes|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bt: hi everyone|pg|| pc|s3|nt|Vugraphzfd: welcome Lars|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: interesting situation there i would have expected PASS to show the strong NT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but NS are on the same page|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| nt|bt: not many would agree with 4@S here, presumably the preempt has done its job|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|bt: then again partner isnt expected to hold 4@H|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg|| nt|bt: you have to know their style|pg|| nt|bt: i dont think this is the sequence of play, looks silly discarding a trick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Q1 scores posted at http://bridgewinners.com/|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: play is correct|pg|| nt|ahollan1: we haven't seen Zimmerann today |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: zimmerman and Moulton are not here. Family emergency for Zimm|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i heard he needed to return to Europe for family emergency|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: so they have to go with these four :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no details - not sure if/when returning|pg|| nt|bt: in the other room ns bid 4@H down, a likely result here as well |pg|| nt|bt: thats unlucky|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: not returning, I think|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Joe|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: imageine having to struggle on with only Fantunes and H-H|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| nt|bt: its tough, maybe multon can play a few|pg|| nt|ahollan1: same in Bali Bermuda Bowl when Italy forced to use only Lauria-Versace Bocchi-Madala|pg|| nt|bt: "forced" is an interesting way of putting it|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3ST3HQ53DA964CKQ95,SK7HT9DJT832CA872,SA84HAK62DKQ5CT63,SQJ9652HJ874D7CJ4|sv|o|mb|1C|an|strong|mb|1S|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S3HT73D85432CKJ54,SQ52HQ62DQJ7CT762,SAKJT986H4DKTCA93,S74HAKJ985DA96CQ8|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bt: 11 imps away on a frivolous raise, some would say well deserved|pg|| mb|d|mb|r|mb|2N|mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|bt: something substantial finally for gromov|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes: "sorry" (not sure for what)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Helness 1@H only promised 4 that put very different light on the auction|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|d3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|mc|9|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S3HT73D85432CKJ54,SQ52HQ62DQJ7CT762,SAKJT986H4DKTCA93,S74HAKJ985DA96CQ8|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfg: welcome back everyone|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|s6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: bidding shown as it happened, no alerts were made|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Dubinin took some time to think before bidding 4@s|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|d3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|d4|mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SK62HA8532DJ94CKT,SJ9875HKJDT53CQ93,SQTHT76DA8CAJ6542,SA43HQ94DKQ762C87|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N always 12-14 includes some atypical shapes|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: of course all the discussion here is in Italian, so I can't report the content|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: i think 3@C = Puppet Stayman|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: or maybe just a RELAY that starts by asking for 5-something|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: seems it was, but not a usualy form of Puppet|pg|| nt|ahollan1: dan neill notes say 3@D = not 4M 5m, maybe 5M|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: 3@H asks and 4@H confirms 5@H|pg|| nt|bt: i didnt realize the north hand was interested in playing a major|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| nt|bt: opposite a weak nt many would chance 3NT|pg|| nt|bt: though 1NT has many different shapes here|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: fantunes 1N includes some atypical shapes though|pg|| nt|ahollan1: particular concern 4441@C|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dT|nt|bt: is 3541 possible?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if 10-13 that shape opens 2@H if 14+ 1@H|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s6|nt|bt: so if 5 Maj then 2+@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N covers hands that can't open either 1x or 2X|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if 5M then BAL and NOT 4OM|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but (52)(42) does open 1N if 12-14|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|nt|Vugraphzfd: nice def here to pick up a couple|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| nt|bt: anyway, opening 1NT was a way to avoid 4@H which they did not use|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SK62HA8532DJ94CKT,SJ9875HKJDT53CQ93,SQTHT76DA8CAJ6542,SA43HQ94DKQ762C87|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|an|min, no side 4c suit|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SK75H2DK97432CQJ3,S983HQT97643DQ6C7,SJHK85DAJ5CAT9842,SAQT642HAJDT8CK65|sv|b|mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: some EW opening 2 bids vary depending on vul|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: when red 2M = natural weak 2|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|bt: east putting maximumpressure here, south is pretty good for the auction |pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 7-card suit was NOT part of the weak 2s that i learned -- but very common now when vul|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|bt: we all see 5@C is wrong but he doesnt see all hands|pg|| nt|bt: its a normal bid|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: bidding is hard when you play with a pinochle deck|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| mc|10|nt|bt: as is often the case nowadays|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SK75H2DK97432CQJ3,S983HQT97643DQ6C7,SJHK85DAJ5CAT9842,SAQT642HAJDT8CK65|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|2N|an|!c support|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|shengabus: I'm being called to the other room! Thanks Karen and Andy|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S65HA763DA987CA52,S42HJ54DJT654CJT7,SA983H9D32CKQ9843,SKQJT7HKQT82DKQC6|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: is this 2@C = 10-13 unbal 6+@C or 5@C and some singleton/void|pg|| mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: sure looks like more than 9 hcp|pg|| nt|bt: isnt it only 9? ;)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: set scores get posted to http://bridgewinners.com/|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: well KnR says north worth 13.10 :)|pg|| nt|bt: it looks like a 1@C in a natural system, so I agree|pg|| mb|d|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bt: well done ns in the other room making 3NT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: KnR is implementation of Kaplan & Rubens hand evaluation algorithm http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Nunes put out 1NT but Madala pointed out he needed to bid higher :)|pg|| nt|bt: and here as well, extremely well done|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ritong: thaznks pard|pg|| mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfd: Bocchi not happy about no save|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S65HA763DA987CA52,S42HJ54DJT654CJT7,SA983H9D32CKQ9843,SKQJT7HKQT82DKQC6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfg: N took some time to decide what to bid|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Vugraphzfg: nice hand, my favorite hand|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|mc|9|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SQ9876HDQJT2CAKQ2,SAJT2HKT84DA3CJ96,S4HAQJ9765D97CT85,SK53H32DK8654C743|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S forcing 14+ hcp or 11+ if 4+@H|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = game force|pg|| mb|p|pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: usually assume 10+ hcp|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Nunes: "sorry"|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|h6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d5|mc|8|nt|ahollan1: quite a 1N overcall in other room|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SQ9876HDQJT2CAKQ2,SAJT2HKT84DA3CJ96,S4HAQJ9765D97CT85,SK53H32DK8654C743|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Vugraphzfg: that was Gromov's comment when he saw the dummy|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|mc|8|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SJT3HJT2DAJT83C65,SAK654HA4DQ72CQT7,S9872H863DK5CJ982,SQHKQ975D964CAK43|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfd: joking around (in Italian)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: everyone is laughing|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ritong: good|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: EW play 3 different ranges for 1N|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: when vul 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Nunes and Madal in nonstop conversation|pg|| nt|ritong: not sure why 3@c would not be natural and forcing here|pg|| mb|r|nt|Vugraphzfd: like invitatioinal unless preceded by Red|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|Vugraphzfd: Rdl|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2 ways to bid over the DBL of transfer some focus on stop/no-stop of the suit others PASS=2-fit RDBL/2@H differentiate quality of 3+fit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in all cases P-P-RDBL = re-transfer|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: for the scientists -- you can actually use re-transfer then new suit vs immediate new suit to differentiate FG vs INV|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ritong: sweaty|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ritong: nine tops in3NT and perhaps 4@h goes down|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|h3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|ritong: agustin must not like this|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| mc|10|nt|ritong: but all ends well|pg|| nt|ahollan1: takes a lot of imagination to go down|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SJT3HJT2DAJT83C65,SAK654HA4DQ72CQT7,S9872H863DK5CJ982,SQHKQ975D964CAK43|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|d|an|!h|mb|p|an|only 2!h|mb|p|mb|r|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|mc|11|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SJ9864HJDJ852CAT7,SAT75HK85D976CQ84,SKHQ76DAQT4CJ9532,SQ32HAT9432DK3CK6|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfd: Ew discussing something|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh but on different lie of trump suit|pg|| nt|ritong: yes, takes south with four trumps|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: i wonder if bocchi-madala converse in spanish so that fantunes don't understand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-13 unbal 6+@C or 5@C and some singleton/void|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: [twas a joke]|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: bocchi and fantunes were teammates for many years/titles|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c7|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: everyone chatting and laughing. not sure of the content.|pg|| nt|sybarra: Joe's italian probably not as fluid as theirs LOL |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Nunes offers everyon e a banana; only his partner accepts|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|s2|nt|ritong: he s a specialist|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|ritong: but ordinarily candy fruits is original|pg|| nt|ahollan1: click on player name -- brings up box with link to Bermuda Bowl convention cards [and link to WBF bio info]|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: that requires using web based version of bbo|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SJ9864HJDJ852CAT7,SAT75HK85D976CQ84,SKHQ76DAQT4CJ9532,SQ32HAT9432DK3CK6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|an|!s|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfg: short break|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SAK42H4DJT875CQT4,ST8HKJT986DCJ9873,S965H2DK963CAK652,SQJ73HAQ753DAQ42C|sv|e|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: when not on vugraph WBF convention cards available at http://info.ecatsbridge.com/SearchSys.aspx|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yet another 2@C opener|pg|| mb|r|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Bill Jacobs, author of Fantunes Revealed LOVES the opening 2-bids|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: everyone talking at once, I smiled at the "noise" and Nunes asks if I understand Italian|pg|| nt|ritong: so do i|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: i play 2M opening M+@cs 12/15 for instance|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|s8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ritong: are we in doubled uptrick zone?|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|ritong: uptrickS|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|h8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|h5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|sybarra: talk about a THANKS pard! |pg|| mc|12|nt|ritong: painful number|pg|| pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SAK42H4DJT875CQT4,ST8HKJT986DCJ9873,S965H2DK963CAK652,SQJ73HAQ753DAQ42C|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|5H|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S87HKQ84DK43CAJ85,SKT2HA6DAQ62CT932,SAQJ3HJ72DJT9CK64,S9654HT953D875CQ7|sv|b|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: just another +1190|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 12-14 always|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ritong: uh?|pg|| nt|ritong: undo please?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ritong: ty|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|sybarra: 5@h-XX in other room! on last hand! |pg|| nt|ritong: colorful push on board 25|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|sybarra: should not be a push |pg|| nt|Harmon: --1190 4sX +2 push +1200 5hXX making lol|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|sybarra: I see now never mind |pg|| nt|ritong: no problem|pg|| nt|sybarra: can you hear the comparison on last bd? |pg|| nt|sybarra: will be too funny |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: 4@HX+2 quieted the table down a bit :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d8|nt|ritong: yes, one will announce "+1190", the other "push" and then "next"|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|sybarra: right, it will be later for discussion |pg|| nt|ahollan1: [different boards] thru 21 Nickell has won imps on every board 25-0 set leads Mahaffey by 29|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: last quarter they compared at this table, so I may be able to report the comparison :)|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|bebechira: this is your commentator Shirley Ybarra http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=99900|pg|| nt|ritong: hello traian:)|pg|| nt|bebechira: and Al Hollander http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=99901|pg|| nt|ahollan1: she types as if she has different hair color|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: AVERT YOUR EYES|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|h8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cK|nt|bebechira: Gromov team http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/misc.php?event=VANDERBILT&year=2014&team=GROMOV|pg|| mc|11|nt|bebechira: and Monaco http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/misc.php?event=VANDERBILT&year=2014&team=MONACO|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S87HKQ84DK43CAJ85,SKT2HA6DAQ62CT932,SAQJ3HJ72DJT9CK64,S9654HT953D875CQ7|sv|b|nt|bobholl: nice push :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|d7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SKQT72H6D62CAQ754,S63HQJ832DJ4CK963,SJ5HK9754D53CJT82,SA984HATDAKQT987C|sv|o|mb|2S|nt|ritong: difficult reopening for bocchi*|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: what to do?|pg|| nt|bebechira: and Henri is here http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/player.php?wbf=11628|pg|| nt|ritong: practical 3NT?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S = unbal 10-13 6+@S or 5@S and some singleton/void not 4+@H|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Madala and Nunes back to pretty much notstop chatting|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|bebechira: hi Henri :)|pg|| nt|ritong: hey man:)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: does Traian have pic of Henri ??|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ritong: yes|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: sorry about that:)|pg|| nt|sybarra: see last site put up:) |pg|| mb|6D|nt|bebechira: i gave the link for Henri already...he is very handsome :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: our gorgeous Henri |pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: *blush*|pg|| mb|p|nt|bebechira: lool|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: aha scrolling for missed chat works!!!|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Vugraphzfd: "discussion" back and forth for EW|pg|| nt|ahollan1: some inferences in this auction|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: BOcchi hands his hand to Madala and (I'm guessing) says "you play it"|pg|| nt|sybarra: we really must improve you Italian, Joe (kidding) |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: maybe just saying "I had MY bid"|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i just can't remember the various meanings of non-vul opening 2@D & 2@H :(|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c4|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: no @H finesse?|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s2|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: oh @D shift meant he didn't have enough tricks unless Rabbi's Rule applied|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SKQT72H6D62CAQ754,S63HQJ832DJ4CK963,SJ5HK9754D53CJT82,SA984HATDAKQT987C|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SJ754H862DA64CK53,S86HAQJ93DJ92CA72,SAKQ2H7D8753CQJT9,ST93HKT54DKQTC864|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: i should never doubt |pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Rabbi's Rule aka Rule of 1 if the King is singleton offside -- play the Ace|pg|| mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: favorable 1N = 10-13|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: so we've seen 2 of the 3 ranges|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c3|nt|ritong: an elegant declarer claims down one|pg|| mc|6|nt|sybarra: and quickly|pg|| nt|ritong: nice|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SJ754H862DA64CK53,S86HAQJ93DJ92CA72,SAKQ2H7D8753CQJT9,ST93HKT54DKQTC864|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|mc|8|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SJ7653HT754D943C4,SAHAQJDAJ85CKQJ87,S842HK82DQ62CT632,SKQT9H963DKT7CA95|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+|pg|| nt|ritong: sweet feeling pard opens 1@c|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = FG, a) BAL b) @C |pg|| nt|ritong: now the snag is to avoid grand, maybe|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = 11-14 BAL, never worthless doubleton|pg|| mb|3D|nt|sybarra: and how many nt do we end up in?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: at this point auction will be mystery to me|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ritong: it would take overhuman discipline to stay in 6@c imho|pg|| nt|ahollan1: my [crumbling] kingdom for a copy of their sys notes |pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|sybarra: n/w may run out of pass cards|pg|| nt|sybarra: *m/s|pg|| nt|sybarra: *one more try n/s|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: after this type of auction the first question to ask Who's Lead???|pg|| nt|sybarra: oops, ugh, 6 nt now? 7 @C looks yukky (technical term) |pg|| mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: nice contract -- whatever the auction meant|pg|| mb|p|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: play will be fast after this lead|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| mc|12|nt|ritong: yes, cann take 5/0 @cs both sides|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: EW discussing something|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SJ7653HT754D943C4,SAHAQJDAJ85CKQJ87,S842HK82DQ62CT632,SKQT9H963DKT7CA95|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|an|2 kc, no Q|mb|p|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SJT542HJ632DT3CT6,SA96HQDKQ6542CAJ7,SQHAK974DA7CKQ852,SK873HT85DJ98C943|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 4+|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Vugraphzfd: Bocchi has out his notes, checking something about the previous auction I assume|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is there a limit to strength of (1@D)-2N:ghestem?|pg|| nt|ritong: not thati am aware of|pg|| nt|ritong: since it is forcing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: just wondering about Fantoni's choice of DBL|pg|| nt|ritong: yes, i did too|pg|| nt|sybarra: must have a reason wish we knew|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for North Americans in this case Ghestem and Unusual NT show same suits|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|h6|mc|10|nt|ritong: ecco|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SJT542HJ632DT3CT6,SA96HQDKQ6542CAJ7,SQHAK974DA7CKQ852,SK873HT85DJ98C943|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|h3|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1S4HAQ953DKQ2CAKJ2,SQTHT4DJ8654CT964,SAK9652HK6D973C75,SJ873HJ872DATCQ83|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: strange but true -- other table just started bidding 30|pg|| nt|ahollan1: they must have taken a break|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: [different boards] thru 29 Nickell 39-5 set leads Mahaffey by 38|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: 1@H forcing 2@S = 5+suit, game force [usually 10+]|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: allo houston?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: typo thru 26|pg|| pc|d5|nt|sybarra: and does Madala have a "creative" lead|pg|| nt|ritong: ty houston, i m not sure we have a problem, finally|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H was forcing 14+ hcp or 11+ with 4+@S|pg|| nt|sybarra: maybe q of spades? |pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: sorry, I got lost ; he played a heart to the K and ducked Bocchi's heart 2 on the way back|pg|| mc|10|nt|ritong: ensuring 10|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: right, and that is what he took|pg|| pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1S4HAQ953DKQ2CAKJ2,SQTHT4DJ8654CT964,SAK9652HK6D973C75,SJ873HJ872DATCQ83|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfg: final 2 boards of this set. Thank you all for watching, we will be back at 7 pm local time (in about 2 hr 45 min)|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|Vugraphzfg: Thanks Andy|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfg: Dubinin is thinking about his next bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|h6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hA|mc|11|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SKHA973DKT76CT973,SAT96HKQ842DQ32C6,SJ87532HTDJ5CKQ54,SQ4HJ65DA984CAJ82|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the 1st half|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2nd half begins in 2 hours 45 minutes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no guarantees about which matches we'll see but there will be 4 vugraph tables tonight|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N = @H raise|pg|| mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: i think|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Bocchi is leaving|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm thinking about doing that too|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and all your fault Joe|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ritong: :DS|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|Vugraphzfd: Madal mumbles something when the spade is coveree and everyone laughs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hmmm i thought low from even without Honor or odd with Honor|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe Jack empty in bid suit = no honor|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|ritong: he s far from being home now|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: altho if that were the case, Madala might have ducked (or maybe they aren't always "honest" in the leads)|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: if forced to guess -- we will NOT see this match tonight|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: but sooooo much to learn from all of these pairs|pg|| nt|sybarra: does anyone but kibber have nerve to duck this?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and GIB is not an acceptable answer|pg|| nt|ahollan1: as scores get reported to TD they are posted to http://bridgewinners.com/|pg|| pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ritong: gulp|pg|| nt|ahollan1: madala magic|pg|| pc|d4|nt|sybarra: oh good, now what?|pg|| nt|ritong: well he has to gather ten tricks|pg|| nt|ahollan1: http://csbnews.org/agustin-madala-is-from-another-galaxy/?lang=en|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ritong: four trumps, three @ds and two aces|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ritong: at best|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h9|pg|| nt|sybarra: have touble counting to 10 also |pg|| nt|ritong: with more friendly @ds, that is|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ritong: a @s would do the tenth|pg|| nt|sybarra: does he have time?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|nt|ritong: @ds do not collaborate anyway|pg|| pc|c3|nt|sybarra: might have time now|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so close|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks all|pg|| mc|9|nt|sybarra: still one short |pg|| nt|sybarra: thx all|pg|| nt|sybarra: and thx Joe, our operator!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other room 3N after 2@S overcall|pg|| nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg|| nt|ritong: back in 120 minutes or so|pg|| nt|ahollan1: more 2 hours 30 minutes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: unless they decide to start early|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure they can do that for 3rd set -- depends if directors are available |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: I'm confident they will not start early, so 2 hours 30 min from now is correct|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru 28 Nickell over Mahaffey by 31|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: closing down now.. Thanks to the commentators and the kibitzers. Join us again in 2 hours 20 minutes for the second half of all the matches|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SKHA973DKT76CT973,SAT96HKQ842DQ32C6,SJ87532HTDJ5CKQ54,SQ4HJ65DA984CAJ82|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|2S|an|weak|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|Vugraphzfg: last hand, thank you all|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: the other table is about finished as well|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: results will be posted as they come in at bridgewinners.com|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru 28 Nickell over Mahaffey by 31|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c7|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfg: that was it, see you all in a couple of hours|pg|| pg||