vg|2014 Vanderbilt A QF,Segment 1 of 4,I,1,16,Monaco,0,Gromov,0| rs|3NS+2,3NN+2,4HN=,5HN-1,1NS+1,1NS+1,5CW-3,3HE-1,4DE-1,3SN-1,3SE-1,1NE=,2SS=,2NE-1,4DN-2,3DN-1,3SN=,4SN-1,3NE+1,3NE+1,3NE=,5DW-1,2SE=,2SE+1,4HN+1,4HN+1,6HE-2,4HE+1,4HWx-1,4HW-2,3SW+1,4CN-1| pn|Nunes,Buras,Fantoni,Narkiewicz,Madala,Helgemo,Bocchi,Helness|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SKJ72HKQ43DKT5C72,S43HJT876DQ7CAQ43,SQ8HA9DAJ964CKJT6,SAT965H52D832C985|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|Harmon: boring hand to start|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|Harmon: I dont know fantunes system tho|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harmon: I assume 1nt was invite or better|pg|| nt|Henryb: I believe it is gf as 1@c is 14+|pg|| nt|Harmon: thanks to all the fatunians for helping me|pg|| nt|cosmok: There will be voice commentary in this room by Roland Wald and John Swanson. To listen log in via www.bridgebase.com|pg|| nt|Harmon: fantunians|pg|| pc|h7|nt|Henryb: Fanunoids perhaps? :)|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Harmon: ok|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s3|nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/WBC2013/BermudaBowl/Poland/buras-narkiewicz.pdf|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/WBC2013/BermudaBowl/Monaco/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg|| pc|s8|nt|Harmon: Id do voice but all the wimmen swoon at my voice|pg|| nt|Henryb: I believe Zimmerman is away for a family emergency. Although perhaps he is already back.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW leads are all 2nd/4th including low from worthless doubleton|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: screen down; Nark... asking questions of Fantoni|pg|| nt|ritong: probably about how they answer to stayman|pg|| nt|ritong: with both majors|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|nt|ritong: ding|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SKJ72HKQ43DKT5C72,S43HJT876DQ7CAQ43,SQ8HA9DAJ964CKJT6,SAT965H52D832C985|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2C|an|11+|mb|p|mb|2N|an|15-17|mb|p|mb|3H|an|nat 4+|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|nt|game over: hi all|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|bt: hi everyone, welcome to a great match between 2 great teams|pg|| nt|game over: hi Lars :)|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SQ832HTDAQ32CKJ43,SAJ975H753DJ75CQ9,SK64HAKQ9862DKTC8,STHJ4D9864CAT7652|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfd: Nark... asked Nunes "4-4 majors?" yep|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harmon: pontential swing |pg|| mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: full text of Slawinski leads online http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/ forster/bridge/development/slawinski/|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: very difficult read|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: easier to check description on fantunes CC in the Supplemental Notes|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ritong: buras' hopes are thin|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ritong: but he tries|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SQ832HTDAQ32CKJ43,SAJ975H753DJ75CQ9,SK64HAKQ9862DKTC8,STHJ4D9864CAT7652|sv|n|nt|game over: N/S convention card: www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/WBC2013/BermudaBowl/Italy/madala-bocchi.pdf|pg|| nt|bt: hi mathias|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|bt: first boring hand was a 2+clubs, a game force, then 14-16 BAL or so|pg|| mb|1S|nt|game over: E/W convention card: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/WBC2013/BermudaBowl/Monaco/helgemo-helness.pdf|pg|| mb|2D|an|!h|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|bt: this hand is interesting, 2@D presumably transfer|pg|| nt|game over: N/S play different NT ranges, depending on vulnerability: red always (15)15-17|pg|| mb|4C|nt|game over: (14)15-17|pg|| mb|d|nt|game over: looks like 4@c either Auto-Splinter in clubs or transfer to 4@h (not sure)|pg|| nt|game over: auto splinter = good heart suit and short clubs|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|bt: doesnt improve the south hand|pg|| nt|bt: or so i thought|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|bt: that was a filthy 4@D|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|nt|game over: kiebitzers suggest Gerber, (good idea) but unlikely given the 4@s bid (two key cards are missing)|pg|| nt|bt: on the bidding south has 6 hcp,|pg|| pc|s2|nt|bt: bad judgement and presumably a swing to monaco|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|h4|nt|game over: the defense should be easy given North's extra strength, you can only beat 5@h with a ruff|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SA876HKJ2DAJ6CJ82,SQ2HAT96DQ875CK96,S954HQ853D932CAQ3,SKJT3H74DKT4CT754|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 12-14, includes some atypical shapes|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ritong: interesting opening lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: specifically 4441 and 5422 except both majors|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N is default opener that can't open 1-suit or 2x [10-13 unbal]|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: We also have voice commentary in this room. http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=743 for instructions if you are not familiar with the voice procedure.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: seems opening leader would try to find passive lead |pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: and i don't think @H10 qualifies as passive|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|Harmon: none of his leads were passive|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but what does that leave??|pg|| nt|ritong: in fairness other options look worse|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: right Hamon|pg|| nt|ahollan1: endplayed on opening lead|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: maybe David Bird's computer would find @SQ lead|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|Harmon: Buras does NOT want to be on lead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: unless that is the case more than 7 times|pg|| nt|ahollan1: first time i heard that concept --- it is not a bad thing to be endplayed at trick 2 vs grand slam|pg|| nt|Harmon: ht best cause declarer already has that|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW carding reverse count & attitude, lavinthal discard|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Harmon: wd|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c3|mc|8|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SA876HKJ2DAJ6CJ82,SQ2HAT96DQ875CK96,S954HQ853D932CAQ3,SKJT3H74DKT4CT754|sv|e|nt|bt: well, 62 to go|pg|| nt|game over: 1NT would be 10-13 now (white/red)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: 4@s was RKC for @h|pg|| mb|1N|an|10-13|nt|bt: this south hand qualifies|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|nt|game over: it is not a bad idea to deduct a point for a 4333 count (although I don't think many experts do it on a semi-automatic basis) and this hand has no 10s or 9s|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|bt: 3 jacks is a distince minus value|pg|| nt|game over: also true|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| nt|bt: i think the @H 3 was the trigger for the club shift|pg|| nt|game over: they play Smith at Trick 2|pg|| nt|bt: aha, then I dont know|pg|| nt|game over: that is a high card is encouraging for the lead suit, a low card is discouraging|pg|| nt|bt: ok then west is in a blind spot|pg|| nt|game over: (not very helpful in this situation where West knows that he needs to shift to a black suit, but does not know which one), but a good agreement in general|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sA|nt|bt: i think the first trick is a clue that east does not have @D KJ|pg|| nt|bt: anyway, west was getting endplayed eventually|pg|| nt|bt: in heartsm to lead a minor|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJ93HK9DQJT8CQ875,S6H5DK97543CAKT96,SKT852HQT63DA2CJ4,SAQ74HAJ8742D6C32|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: this is the kind of endplay that helps you win consecutive Reisinger BAM|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Nark... "well done; only 30 minutes"|pg|| nt|ritong: mm|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-22 HCP, 5+@D or 4@D(441) NEG=>4@H|pg|| mb|2S|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|Vugraphzfd: 2NT some sort of lebensohl treatment, I think he said|pg|| nt|Harmon: trouble misfit|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Good/Bad 2N|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: probably|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: maybe not|pg|| mb|p|nt|Harmon: wow merciful undbled|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: 2NT was weak or strong; immediate bid would be intermediate|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not sure why Narkiewicz went to game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Joe|pg|| nt|bobholl: the good/bad 2nt|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Vugraphzfd: Nark... has left the table|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he should have left before bidding 5@C|pg|| nt|Harmon: went for a nap:)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|nt|bobholl: 100 a trick migth become (very) costly|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|ritong: and deciding to play low here might save like two tricks|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and only 60 boards to recoup the loss|pg|| nt|Harmon: At this rate 60 bds will be next thurs|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|c6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|c2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: just a way to support ACBL decision to reduce to 60-board matches in future events |pg|| pc|c9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d3|nt|ritong: saving down three|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i believe starting with Summer NABC's Spingold|pg|| mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfd: Nark.. looking at Buras's hand and talking with agitationi in Polish (of course). Discussion continues|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJ93HK9DQJT8CQ875,S6H5DK97543CAKT96,SKT852HQT63DA2CJ4,SAQ74HAJ8742D6C32|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|bt: some fun here|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|bt: west must like his hand now|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|bt: good stop by the Monaco pair|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|bt: declarer might ruff a club, cash spade queen, ruff a spade, then a club|pg|| nt|game over: double dummy he can make it by ruffing two clubs (and one spade along the way) I think|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d2|pc|h2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|h3|pg|| nt|bt: like we said, ruffing clubs earlier was more succesful, now he risks losing 3@H 1@S and 1@D|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|d4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|bt: notice the difference with one less heart in declarers hand|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQJ5HK63DJ52CQ854,S7HQJ54DAK87CAT97,SKT643HAT872D6CKJ,SA982H9DQT943C632|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = forcing 14+ hcp or 11+ with @S & @H|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: 2N = 3+ fit, 5+ hcp|pg|| nt|ritong: implying that limit raisqes come from weaker hands than usual|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3+fit, 5+ HCP a) 7-9 3@S or b) 5-9 4@S|pg|| nt|ritong: raises*|pg|| mb|d|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: the lower range is affect of expected higher minimum for opening|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|Vugraphzfd: more back and forth under the screen betweeen E and W|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ritong: surprising|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|nt|bobholl: only 2@C and 1@H losers but 10 winners less easy|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| nt|bobholl: now a @H quack can become trick 10|pg|| nt|bobholl: sry thougth he ''d played to wards dummy|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @H7 gives declarer HOPE|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|d4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: wonder why he talked himself out of @S continue|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|dK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: that may have just given setting trick back to defense|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|mc|9|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQJ5HK63DJ52CQ854,S7HQJ54DAK87CAT97,SKT643HAT872D6CKJ,SA982H9DQT943C632|sv|n|mb|1S|nt|game over: he was relying on hearts 3-3, was probably a good line|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|bt: trump coup is a lot more fun than 33, dont you think?|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|game over: the North hand gets much stronger if South has four trumps (then he can ruff some hearts and cash the established heart later) in a 5-3 fit he always risks losing trump-control|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|bt: helness goes for the tap as opposed to a heart ruff|pg|| nt|game over: sure :)|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|bt: he will be in control after ducking a spade|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| nt|game over: yes, I like that lead (going for a tap instead of a ruff)|pg|| pc|c4|nt|bt: the @DT is a standard ten, so the location of the queen is unknown to helgemo |pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h4|nt|bt: that heart shift was a grosvenor, bocchi couldnt imagine @H9 singleton on the lead|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bt: poker players here ;)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SJ97HJ765DJ62CT64,SQ54H9432DA97C873,SK2HKQTDK843CA952,SAT863HA8DQT5CKQJ|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: that hand will be analyzed more in the postmortem|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: for EW 1N = 1/2/3nv (13)14-16 3v/4 15-17 |pg|| mb|d|mb|r|nt|ahollan1: Nark probably too good for 1N|pg|| mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: 5@S was not an immediate deterrent just makes the hand too strong|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N was Roland's 2nd favorite convention SemiForce|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: auction indicates they play constructive immediate raises|pg|| nt|ritong: like 8/10|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|ritong: so east knows he is facing a real fit ranged 5/7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|bobholl: the critical decision|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Nark.. to Fantoni "let's go; no clubs?" Now is talking with Buras; don't think he liked the 3@S bid|pg|| nt|ritong: he s on total tilt...|pg|| nt|bobholl: another 5 to monaco i guess|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: screen down and Nark is looking at Fantoni's hand. Now Nark.. is leaving the table again.|pg|| nt|ritong: good grief|pg|| mc|8|nt|ritong: wish narkiewicz does not play poker for high stakes|pg|| nt|ritong: because i have a feeling his way to behave might cost him a ton|pg|| nt|ritong: what s going on, joe?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: players returning (from smoking I think)|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SJ97HJ765DJ62CT64,SQ54H9432DA97C873,SK2HKQTDK843CA952,SAT863HA8DQT5CKQJ|sv|e|nt|bt: i dont think bocchi is enjoying this so far|pg|| mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|mb|p|nt|game over: 1NT = 15-17|pg|| mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|game over: X by North would show 5minor+4major or a really strong hand, so that is not an option (and I think he would pass anyway)|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|nt|bt: as for the choice of opening bid, with a strength in the middle of yur 1NT it is tough to describe the hand if you open something else|pg|| nt|game over: 2@s would have been a better contract, but if West bids 1NT, East will probably bid 2 of a minor and 2NT over West's 2@s, so he will play one level higher (and cannot reach 2@s)|pg|| pc|d5|nt|game over: if East opened 1@s that is|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|bt: with minimum or maximum you can open 1@S (in this case) then take it from there|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s5|nt|bt: bocchi should have ducked the club !K|pg|| mc|7|nt|bt: @CK|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SQJT98HD642CAK843,SK6HKT8432DKJCJ97,S74HAQJ65D9875C62,SA532H97DAQT3CQT5|sv|b|nt|ritong: ah|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: thru 6 Mahaffey - Nickell tied at 9|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 10-13, 6+@S or some singleton/void [not 4+@H]|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Harmon: uh oh Nark gonna go crazy again:)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if you read the book Fantunes Revealed you'll find BIll Jacobs LOVES the opening 2-bids |pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|ritong: 5+3=8 score it up|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: they still seem a bit strange to me|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|h5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SQJT98HD642CAK843,SK6HKT8432DKJCJ97,S74HAQJ65D9875C62,SA532H97DAQT3CQT5|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|Vugraphzfg: that is what Helness just said, if he ducks K@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bt: we have the benefit of seeing all hands|pg|| nt|game over: West's overcall - although routine for many club players - is pretty light|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|game over: but East knows West's style and bids only 2NT|pg|| nt|bt: helgemo-helness plays a wide range style overcall|pg|| nt|game over: and East's hand is probably not even good enough to hold it to down 1, if he plays a heart, he is down 2|pg|| nt|bt: norwegian style, for some reason :)|pg|| nt|game over: :) |pg|| nt|bt: helness 3@H down one was a gain of 5 imps|pg|| nt|game over: the good thing about 5@c is that it wasn't doubled|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|h2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|h3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|mc|7|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S3HJ6D9863CAQ7543,SA875HAT93DQ4CK98,SKQJHQ874DKT752C6,ST9642HK52DAJCJT2|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfd: Fantoni: "they would not enjoy playing hearts"|pg|| mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: i tried to explain 2@S is unbal which means 6@S or 5@S and some singleton/void but not 5@S 4+@H|pg|| nt|bobholl: as happens so often fantunes 2 openings show good results|pg|| mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2-way, forcing a) 2+@C, BAL not range for 1/2NT opening b) 5+@C, 10+ HCP|pg|| mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: different boards in all matches|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the ONLY time same boards is in SemiFinal when ALL matches are on vugraph|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|nt|ritong: gromov will score first imps here|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|h6|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if Buras switches to @D4 does Nark put in the Jack??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: never mind south is dummy|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and i'm dain bramaged|pg|| nt|ritong: it seems one of their five tricks flied away, unless buras plays a trump now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: good thing they took a break before starting this hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other room only 4 boards ahead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: welland-auken v nickell-katz only on board 9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but it was my turn to type|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: on voice commentary John Swanson asking that going into tank requires player to vocalize what is being thought|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i would sure like that info to come to spectators -- probably not so good to feed to opponents|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nice defense|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c3|nt|bobholl: indeed as good as DD|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d7|mc|8|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S3HJ6D9863CAQ7543,SA875HAT93DQ4CK98,SKQJHQ874DKT752C6,ST9642HK52DAJCJT2|sv|o|nt|bt: down one as expected, probably ok for HH|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|bt: this is a marginal 2@D overcall, I think ew would have made it|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|game over: 2@d over 1@h has good preemptive value, so you should bid it more often than say (1@s) - 2@c|pg|| mb|p|nt|bt: good point mathias|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|game over: do they play with screens?|pg|| nt|bt: likely|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Screens were in place yesterday, and will remain until the end|pg|| nt|bt: hope nobody starts coughing today ;)|pg|| nt|game over: thanks|pg|| mb|3D|nt|game over: btw. Lars - I like your kookoo-story :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bt: it was cute|pg|| mb|p|nt|game over: (don't think it is true)|pg|| mb|p|pc|s2|nt|game over: see here: http://bridgewinners.com/article/view/german-case/|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|nt|bt: not a big deal here, 3@S makes and this will go down|pg|| nt|game over: I did wonder why South was thinking (two explanations: West was thinking, because they were playing with screens or 2) he was thinking about their conventions in this situation) - ...|pg|| nt|game over: N/S do have some unusual (probably good) agreements in balancing situations|pg|| pc|dK|nt|game over: here it looks like they play natural (what else?) and North decided 3@d must be a better fit than 3@c |pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|bt: If you switch @DA and @CK he makes it|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S87432HQ93DK42CA7,S9H87DQJT7CKT8652,SQJT5HAKT6DA96C93,SAK6HJ542D853CQJ4|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: what you must NOT do is violate Hideous Hog's Rule -- if you're going to do the wrong thing .... do it quickly|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: wow talk about NEVER upgrading|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 12-14|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H could have been 4@S|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: 2N was max with 4 or 5 spades and usually shortness in clubs|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|bobholl: 1 @C 2@S and a @D to loose|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| nt|bobholl: 4@S is a good contract but S can't dream that |pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|cK|pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: we've all been in worse 4@S contracts|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S87432HQ93DK42CA7,S9H87DQJT7CKT8652,SQJT5HAKT6DA96C93,SAK6HJ542D853CQJ4|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|an|!s|nt|game over: 1NT here: 10-13, they open 1@c on all balanced hands (1! is always unbalanced)|pg|| nt|bt: the 14-17 NT I guess |pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|an|4! bal 14-16|mb|p|nt|game over: 1@h = spades, 2@s = probably balanced spade raise with four spades (not sure)|pg|| nt|bt: very likely|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|game over: as 2@s = 14-16, South might as well bash 4@s|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|bt: the club lead will make him go down, unless he finesses @H|pg|| nt|game over: this is a fairly good game, he needs to find the @h J, I predict he will go down|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|bt: and finesses over the guy with long spades|pg|| nt|game over: As East did not lead a heart and did not overcall you can make a case for finessing against East in hearts|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|bt: maybe he just had QJT of clubs?|pg|| nt|bt: well defended ew by hiding club !T|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|bt: @CT|pg|| nt|game over: yes, sure, but with a singleton heart, he would have led or at least returned one (with AKx in trumps)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s8|nt|bt: monaco is pitching a nohitter so far|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S965H9763DJT82CKQ,SKJ8HK4D93CAT9862,SA732HQJ8DQ75C743,SQT4HAT52DAK64CJ5|sv|b|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: [board 9] at these colors Bocchi's 1N would have been 10-13|pg|| nt|ahollan1: (13)14-16|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Slawinski lead low = even NO honor or odd WITH honor|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: i've reached the point where i can explain the lead -- just not how to react to the possibilities in 3rd seat :(|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: the rationale is described in the Slawinsky book -- but multiple readings have failed to register in long term memory|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|10|nt|bobholl: clasim|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4S965H9763DJT82CKQ,SKJ8HK4D93CAT9862,SA732HQJ8DQ75C743,SQT4HAT52DAK64CJ5|sv|b|mb|1N|nt|bt: that was normal but exceptionally well defended by ew|pg|| nt|game over: so I am glad he did not make it, this gives hope to the rest of us :) ;)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bt: I dont think anyone here would have|pg|| nt|game over: 1NT = 15-17 (at least in Bali), so an upgrade|pg|| pc|h7|nt|bt: that club play by the defence was so good|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|nt|bt: 2nd from bad 4 cards?|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|game over: they lead attitude against NT|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|bt: for those interested, helness cashing the 2nd spade was a signal to partner that he does not hold QJ bare in clubs|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S732HQJTDJTCK8632,SQ5HADAKQ653CA974,SKJ864HK74D9842CQ,SAT9H986532D7CJT5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: Roland -- are you asking about Vinje signals??|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: Those too.|pg|| mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: 2@h is a "negative free bid"|pg|| nt|ahollan1: notice the 2@H bid here and earlier hand where Nark @SAQxx @HAJxxxx [5@C hand]|pg|| nt|bobholl: but the 2nd @S trick is obscure|pg|| nt|ritong: meaning that it shows long @hs and general weakness|pg|| nt|ritong: which explains his move on board 4, yes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this treatment Negative Free Bids so DBL includes game forcing hand with the other major|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i believe NFBs one of many Rodwell innovations|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: but wouldn't argue if someone said Bergen|pg|| nt|ritong: he can easily make this|pg|| nt|ritong: assuming he ducks the first @s|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| nt|ritong: ecco|pg|| nt|ritong: brilliant|pg|| nt|ahollan1: many telling me that negative free bids were used in Britain long before Rodwell learned to finesse|pg|| nt|ritong: they were, yes|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s8|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s4|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: different boards thru 10 Nickell over Mahaffey by 8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: we won't know about the other matches until they finish 16 board set and report to TD|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S732HQJTDJTCK8632,SQ5HADAKQ653CA974,SKJ864HK74D9842CQ,SAT9H986532D7CJT5|sv|o|nt|game over: yes good point, with a promotable spade (AK9) and @c QJ he would not have cashed the second spade|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|bt: tough to beat this Monaco team|pg|| mb|2S|nt|game over: 2@s = probably a bad raise to 2@s (not sure)|pg|| nt|bt: blasting 3NT is always an option but I dont know ,,,|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|bt: D then 3NT maybe?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bt: stay off the spade lead norberto|pg|| nt|game over: X then 3NT is an interesting idea, but partner could expect a single stopper in spades with a non-running diamond suit for example|pg|| nt|bt: its an imperfect world ;)|pg|| nt|game over: even with a a spade lead he needs to find the clubs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: discussion about bidding before the lead|pg|| nt|bt: he might play north for Hx or H|pg|| nt|bt: we will see|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|bt: now defence should sort it out|pg|| pc|h2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|bt: like with a spade card, south might play JT in diamonds|pg|| nt|bt: is that the sequence of plays, really?|pg|| mc|10|nt|game over: probably not :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S654H74DKQ43CAQ87,SJT8HKJ985DA72CT9,SK73HQT63DJ86CK52,SAQ92HA2DT95CJ643|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: then posted to http://bridgewinners.com/|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3rd seat 1@S seems reasonable|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: and duplicated in both rooms|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ritong: opening the best suit in third and fourth seat gives good results ime|pg|| nt|bobholl: drury|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C Drury|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = worst so actually Reverse Drury|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: but i don't know of anyone playing original rebids since advent of Reverse Drury|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: historical note original Drury didn't even promise fit so this used to be called Drury-Fit|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: hehe John Swanson relating story where Eric Murray said he loved the Drury Convention because now he was only down 2 in 2M instead of down 3 in 3M|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Doug Drury invented the convention because of Murray's 3rd/4th seat antics|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Barry Crane used to use Drury in ALL SEATS|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|d9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|sJ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S654H74DKQ43CAQ87,SJT8HKJ985DA72CT9,SK73HQT63DJ86CK52,SAQ92HA2DT95CJ643|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfg: it went quickly, pulling trump, claiming|pg|| nt|bt: i would hate to do the operating when they are playing, too fast for me|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|an|drury|mb|p|nt|bt: kudos to a job well done here! :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|game over: I like East's 1@s bid (showing five spades in theory)|pg|| nt|game over: it's a pretty good suit, you only have a marginal opening and it has preemptive value|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|game over: 2@c = Drury means, a maximum non-opening hand (like 9-11 high card points) and support for spades (3+ @s)|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|h8|nt|bt: 3rd pos white against red, automatic unless you play with a devoted 5Card majorite|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s9|pc|d3|pg|| mc|9|nt|bt: bocchi madala getting stymied|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Helness said: "Reverse dummy on 4-3 fit"|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S3HKQJ752DJ94CQJ8,SQTHA3DQ7632CAT65,SA975H84DAKTCK942,SKJ8642HT96D85C73|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: another 12-14 NT|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D or 4@C [south african texas] ??|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: 4@C = @H|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: Max Sapire gives the "South African" adjustment to Texas|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he came up with it while in London|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure if fantunes use 4@D as slam interest|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for that matter i'm not sure if 4@C shows slam interests or just says YOU play 4@H|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm referring to 1N-4@C//4@D|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S3HKQJ752DJ94CQJ8,SQTHA3DQ7632CAT65,SA975H84DAKTCK942,SKJ8642HT96D85C73|sv|b|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bt: this is an auction we can understand|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|nt|bt: gerber and 2 aces ;)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| nt|bt: just kidding|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|game over: 4@c = hearts, I donÄt know whether 4@d is an allowed bid for North|pg|| nt|bt: if it is, he sure didnt have it on this hand|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SK953HT3DT43CT865,SAJHA985DAQ87CK92,SQT762H6DKJ6CQJ43,S84HKQJ742D952CA7|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: where opener bids the intermediate step|pg|| mb|1H|nt|ritong: danger here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: concensus seems to be that fantunes use the transfers as game only|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 2@C FG a) BAL, maybe fit b) nat |pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|ritong: well|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: now KB can presume slam would be at best on a hook|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: my only guess is that at some point Narkiewicz denied shortness|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i just don't know about the rest of the auction other than ... they're too high|pg|| nt|ritong: well it took @ds super friendly and a non @s lead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: some believe that if response to RKC is 2+Q that you MUST bid slam [otherwise you shouldn't have used RKC]|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: extrapolating from that -- they zoom into showing specific kings|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but this works much better if 4T+1 is RKC |pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|cc469: you would have to bid the slam anyway unless the suit is @Ss|pg|| nt|cc469: sorry, private |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: screen down. Fantoni asking questions.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Now Fantoni explaining their leads|pg|| nt|ahollan1: as Roland points out down 1 or down 2 same imp swing|pg|| nt|bobholl: i guess he 'll return a @H|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| nt|bobholl: 1 extra down|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: for those late to the show Roland Wald, John Swanson, Jeffrey Allerton doing Voice Commentary of our table|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ritong: fantoni knew declarer with 6@hs and 3@ds so a @s was 100%|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c5|pc|h8|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @SQ very thoughtful return to elimate many squeeze positions|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ritong: but the Queen was sexy, yes|pg|| pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: you must use some web-based bbo instance to hear voice there will be box to the right of chat that is pretty obvious|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Nark.. studying the sheet with NS leads written out|pg|| nt|ritong: about time:)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: he had looked at it earlier :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: his only chance left = K 3'd of @D in S|pg|| nt|ritong: yes, on the 3NT hand he ducked the lead i guess|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru 12 NIckell over Mahaffey by 3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm about to take a losing finesse -- please wait|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: once again reading the sheet with the leads|pg|| nt|jallerton: He has to decide what to play for|pg|| nt|jallerton: he doesn't know whatever he does is losing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: remember slawinski lead low = even without honor or odd with 4 then 3 implies ..... i'm not sure|pg|| nt|ritong: hehe|pg|| nt|ahollan1: assuming honest lead vs slam|pg|| nt|jallerton: If he believes the lead, he should play the Q, playing for K43|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think K43 leads 3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: odd with honor|pg|| nt|jallerton: OK, if lead is consistent with K1043 then should play low|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: losing finesse instead of losing @DA tough choice|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SK953HT3DT43CT865,SAJHA985DAQ87CK92,SQT762H6DKJ6CQJ43,S84HKQJ742D952CA7|sv|o|nt|game over: or if North always have to accept the transfer |pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|bt: danger ew here|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|game over: I am still explaining the bidding and they have finished the play... must be horrible to be an operator|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|bt: this is presumable a strong rase, a minimum and maybe slam invitation no shortness |pg|| nt|game over: 5@h is an easy make for experts (without a diamond lead), you have a 100% endplay by drawing trumps, eliminating clubs and playing @s A, @s J)|pg|| nt|bt: 6@H is on a finesse and a little more|pg|| nt|game over: in 6@h (after a spade lead) you should probably draw trump, finesse in diamonds eliminate clubs and diamonds (partially) and exit with a spade |pg|| nt|game over: after a non-spade lead it gets better|pg|| mb|4D|nt|bt: this is a normal slam for a norwegian pair, buthese guys are from monaco so they might stop|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bt: nicely done ew|pg|| pc|s5|nt|bt: now we will se the 11 trick play in 2 seconds|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|game over: yes, good stop, probably 3NT = go on or a cuebid in spades, 4@c = Cue @c, 4@d = Cue, 4@h = not interested|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SA643H8DK984CT982,SKJ9HKQT972DJ6CJ3,SQT72H6DQT52CAK74,S85HAJ543DA73CQ65|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 4@H bid seems more likely in context of limited opener than here|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: X-PASS as unexpected as 4@H|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: but P-1@H-X spot on|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|nt|ritong: he can t miss @ss|pg|| pc|h9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ritong: south would certainly not double with one king and one queen|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: score sure seems to reflect fantunes play this set|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SA643H8DK984CT982,SKJ9HKQT972DJ6CJ3,SQT72H6DQT52CAK74,S85HAJ543DA73CQ65|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfg: Claimed after the first trick|pg|| nt|bt: KQJxxx is kind of wasted opp 4card support|pg|| mb|p|nt|bt: KJxxxx and something on the sode more interesting|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2N|an|inv, !h |nt|bt: side|pg|| mb|3H|nt|game over: yes, if East had the @c Q instead of the @h Q this would have been a very good slam|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|game over: 1@h can be a four-card suit (only if 4@s4@h-32 minors I think)|pg|| nt|bt: i think south just gave west the contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|bt: being a little aggressive|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| nt|bt: diamond shift and then guess spades|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|bt: would you bud 3@H on Qxxx/x/Kxxx/xxxx|pg|| nt|bt: bid|pg|| nt|bt: thisis the thing helgemo does perfectly|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|game over: no but I know for sure that 2NT can be a four-card support with a singleton and seven HCP because they did it against me at least twice :)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|hT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| nt|bt: anyone thinks he will misguess?|pg|| mc|8|nt|game over: no :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: misguessed spades|pg|| nt|game over: eh, yes I mean :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: for -2|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2ST6HKQTDKJCKJ9642,SAKQ75HAJ94D54CT8,SJ8H532DQ962CA753,S9432H876DAT873CQ|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: needed DBL for the push :)|pg|| nt|ritong: bizarrely he would go down two undoubled imo|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that is what happened in other room Henri|pg|| nt|ritong: because the same reasoning applies if south passes, he likely has not one king and one ace|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: Nunes opened out of turn, seems to me, and no one has noticed. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s2|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i don't believe this auction just not sure which corrections to make|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh final board of the set|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: since all matches use different set of hands -- restart can occur at any time|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: I started with three passes to capture the auction with Nunes opening out of turn. No one noticed.|pg|| nt|ritong: wow|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh sorry missed Joe's mention of out-of-turn 2@C opener|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wonder why Buras accepted the bid -- or didn't he realize either|pg|| nt|jallerton: worked well, kept E?W out of making game|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfd: back soon|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2ST6HKQTDKJCKJ9642,SAKQ75HAJ94D54CT8,SJ8H532DQ962CA753,S9432H876DAT873CQ|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|bt: true, it was already down|pg|| nt|bt: i blame my sore ankle for that stupid analysis|pg|| mb|2N|mb|3S|nt|bt: ;)|pg|| mb|4C|nt|game over: 2NT likely shows clubs (perhaps a minor-suit-one suiter)|pg|| nt|bt: 2NT, as a club overcall, interesting|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|game over: yes, this is one of their unusual (pre-)balancing agreements I was talking about earlier :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|bt: presumably to be able to compete with weaker hands than people in general|pg|| nt|game over: this is the last board, thanks all, see you soon for the next segment|pg|| mc|9|nt|game over: scheduled to start in one hour|pg|| nt|bt: 4@S is a make here, maybe helness should sniff it out, granted it is on hearts behaving|pg|| nt|bt: they are done|pg|| nt|bt: wow|pg|| nt|bt: thanks everyone and especially the severly tested vuegraph operator|pg|| nt|bt: bye 4 now|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: Thanks all, we will resume after the break. There are 60 min on the clock, but I think we will be back sooner than that|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfg: the other table is playing board 11. After they finish all 16, there will be a short break|pg|| pg||