vg|2013 Baze Sr_ KO SF,Segment 3 of 4,I,33,48,King,37,Gupta,67| rs|3HE+2,4HW=,3SN-1,3DW+1,3NN-3,4NS-2,5HW+1,5HW+1,4SN=,4SN+1,4HN-1,4HN-1,2SW+2,2NE+2,6SN-1,5DS=,3CN-2,3CN-1,3NS+2,3NS+2,6HS+1,6HS=,2HN-1,2HS-1,PASS,1SN+2,3NN=,4SN-2,4HE=,3HW+2,2SE=,2HS+1| pn|Abelow,Stansby,Ruderman,Bramley,Meckstroth,Bell,Rodwell,King|pg|| qx|c34|st||md|4SQ54HAJ832D65C653,SA93H954DQT98CKQT,SKJT82HKQ6DK2CJ72,S76HT7DAJ743CA984|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c35|st||md|1SKT7HAKQ4DAK93C73,SAQ9HJT532DQ54C92,S6542H97D876CKQ84,SJ83H86DJT2CAJT65|sv|e|nt|rick3son: was there a mix up at playing sight?|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm not sure what's going on but it seems like Meckwell are here.|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|an|modifiied puppet|mb|d|nt|Vugraphzfb: The site is fine, but I made a mistake about which team was which (silly of me to assume that the team with Meckwell was higher seeded, wasn't it?) so had them the wrong ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: directions. All right now I hope|pg|| mb|r|an|no club stopper|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|rick3son: lead directing double is little bit frisky|pg|| mb|p|nt|rick3son: have seen these go wrong|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|rick3son: is this a fumble on agreements?|pg|| nt|kareno: That eight of clubs was enough for the second club stopper. Now Eric Rodwell will have to declare game in spades|pg|| nt|rick3son: has the bidding gone as displayed?|pg|| nt|kareno: Hm... this must be charted territory for them - they have probably discussed every possible auction that exists!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: This is the bidding - Meck wrote that 3@c was "modified Puppet and xx = no @c stopper and "I don't recall disc" (presumably discussion). Rod said: "it appears he thinks we're ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: playing something different because of the DBL"|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|kareno: Folks I cannot answer every question every one of you asks - let's watch and see.|pg|| nt|rick3son: they put in hours of pratice, but shows that the lead director double seems to have paid divdend|pg|| nt|kareno: This is not likely to fetch anyway and one level higher than the other room for sure.|pg|| nt|rick3son: 3nt was not going be easy either|pg|| nt|kareno: I doubt there are nine tricks to be made.|pg|| nt|kareno: Though on a low heart lead it is possible.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s4|mc|8|nt|kareno: Jeff Meckstroth made the best of a bad lot. |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "I didn't know if we had any agreement" Rod: "just system on, because we haven't agreed anything" Meck: "okay ... I smelled a rat when you bid 4@s"|pg|| pg|| qx|o36|st||md|2SKQJ43H7DK9764C43,ST92HAKJ643DJ3CA6,S8765H9DAT52CQ985,SAHQT852DQ8CKJT72|sv|b|nt|jkdood: Welcome back all, sorry for the technical glitches|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Meckwell will be in shock for winning 2 imps on board 35.|pg|| nt|jkdood: And our score is now up-to-date and accurate, thanks!|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|3H|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|Leo LaSota: 3S, 5H make|pg|| nt|jkdood: Meckwell bidding thin games is no surprise of course, but the slight pickup is not expected|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: take that back|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: double dummy defense holds to 2 spades|pg|| mb|5H|nt|jkdood: The more science EW use - they can avoid 6@H down 2 fast @D, on the other hand if they blasted they might make 12 tricks (other room 13 made)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: good decision for King/Bell to play 5 hearts in other room.|pg|| mb|p|nt|jkdood: One spec suggested 1@H - p - 6@H yes that would probabkly fetch :)|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: likely push|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|nt|Leo LaSota: even though odds strongly favor taking the second round club finesse|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: no reason Stansby risks the contract losing to Qx|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| nt|jkdood: Other room changed from 13 tricks to 12, but opening lead is not shown|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|jkdood: Loser on Loser?|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: no|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: ruff twice setup pitch|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: make 6|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c36|st||md|2SKQJ43H7DK9764C43,ST92HAKJ643DJ3CA6,S8765H9DAT52CQ985,SAHQT852DQ8CKJT72|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|rick3son: at least not doubled|pg|| nt|kareno: So this is perhaps the one in a million auctions they haven't discussed.|pg|| nt|rick3son: Bell might have unblocked the queen @d to get King to cash @c and put a @s through at the end|pg|| nt|kareno: King could have tossed the jack of diamonds to help him do that|pg|| nt|rick3son: when King first led @d through it was the 2|pg|| mb|2N|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kareno: 5@h makes e/w and n/s have a save in spades at the four-level. Good auction all around|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Sorry - the two tables weren't linked (I'm not sure why) so I had to fix things and lost the play here|pg|| mc|13|nt|Vugraphzfb: Made 6|pg|| nt|rick3son: 5 cards trump support and a second 5 card on side nice bid by KIng|pg|| pg|| qx|o37|st||md|3SKT94HAKTDK94CQ63,S632HQ9853DAJCA94,SAQJ75H62DQ2CKT85,S8HJ74DT87653CJ72|sv|n|nt|jkdood: South showing out painted the easy roadmap of course|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Likely a flat 650 for N/S here|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jkdood: any chance of losing 1@D and 2@C with normal play, for 620?|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: better chance that defense leads diamond and diamond|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: Ruderman can read the club ace as likely in West|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: once diamonds 62|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: and strip hand, then exit king clubs|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Leo LaSota: then guess who has 9 or jack of clubs|pg|| nt|jkdood: Simpler minds might try club J finesse. We shall see.|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: as expected, Meckwell made 5|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: ace, diamond to queen|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: draw 3 trumps, heart heart ruff, duck diamond to West|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|jkdood: The diamond pitch of course is no help, but the endplay gains from that |pg|| pc|s5|nt|Leo LaSota: even if Stansby guesses to sky ace diamonds, can still strip hand out and exit king clubs as explained above.|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jkdood: My betting money is on 620 at our table. |pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jkdood: What if K@C is ducked Leo?|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: after going down in 3nt, I would not bet against your conclusion.|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sQ|nt|Leo LaSota: low diamond at trick 2, I just do not see that Stansby would have skied, but maybe|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|nt|Leo LaSota: this is a common situation|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: play a suit immediately to put pressure on the opponents to work out a play|pg|| mc|10|nt|Leo LaSota: in this case, diamond at trick 2 was a very solid play|pg|| pg|| qx|c37|st||md|3SKT94HAKTDK94CQ63,S632HQ9853DAJCA94,SAQJ75H62DQ2CKT85,S8HJ74DT87653CJ72|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|kareno: not +2 though. Anyway, the play would be straightforward for twelve tricks without a diamond lead|pg|| nt|rick3son: thanks for linking tables so that we get comparisons|pg|| mb|2N!|an|!s raise, LR or FG, if FG somethig|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|game try opposite LR |mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: 3@d is a game try or a little bit better opposite a limit raise, but not a clear accept|pg|| pc|d7|nt|Vugraphzfb: Rod asks about carding - lead is 3rd from even, low from odd; UDCA, S/P in trump|pg|| nt|kareno: Good method to stay at the four-level!|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|rick3son: this is auction is not Jacoby 2nt|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d3|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| nt|rick3son: when opener can be so light is good to lay down a good dummy|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o38|st||md|4SQT7654HDAT87CA52,SA832HA94D4CJ8763,SJHKQT8765DK63CK4,SK9HJ32DQJ952CQT9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jkdood: In a tough match, some declarers are justifiably focused on making their 10 tricks quickly and moving on. Anywa,y, 1 imp to Gupta|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: both of the N/S hands look like promising play potential, but the hands do not mesh for any major suit game.|pg|| mb|3H|nt|Leo LaSota: unless|pg|| nt|jkdood: And of course, they are in the event and have prospered to this stage, while we are audience|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: queen diamond lead against 4H and Stansby does not work out to underlead ace spade when in with ace hearts trick 2.|pg|| nt|jkdood: I agree with the many specs who think 4@H is touch and go|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: interesting spot on diamond honor lead|pg|| nt|jkdood: We see Rodwell, one of the best declarers in the world, failed|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|Leo LaSota: king hearts trick 2 and Stansby is under the spotlight for low spade shift now,|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: upside down suit preference would be helpful here|pg|| nt|jkdood: At other table, Bell found the spade underlead, wd|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: if 2 hearts could be used by Bramley to show spade|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: very tired play |pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: another costly play from Ruderman|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Bob Bell is a fine defender and worked the situation out; good chance that Stansby would have as well.|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jkdood: Seniors may miss some plays or paths the much younger Leo would find, but still are worthy opps for the most part|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Unfortunately for the King team, Ruderman did not put the pressure on Stansby.|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Stansby could get greedy down 3 now, but will accept down 2 probably.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|h8|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|h9|pg|| nt|jkdood: So perhaps 2 imps to Gupta, down 2?|pg|| mc|9|nt|jkdood: Or not|pg|| pg|| qx|c38|st||md|4SQT7654HDAT87CA52,SA832HA94D4CJ8763,SJHKQT8765DK63CK4,SK9HJ32DQJ952CQT9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rick3son: I was told that Al Hollander will be on later|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|rick3son: he knows their system quite well|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|s4|nt|rick3son: 2@s rebid promised 6?|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|rick3son: question was to Al he says yes|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|h9|pg|| mc|9|nt|kareno: Defense did well here. |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Meckstroth left the room when he was dummy, so there will be a short break until he is back.|pg|| nt|kareno: Sorry, I was on the phone for this hand. East must have signaled a spade but really it was the only suit he could have an entry in - check out dummy|pg|| nt|rick3son: : was not getting partner in for ruff in @C or @D so only chance|pg|| nt|kareno: After that lead, the contract looked pretty good!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck is now back, but the other 3 have gone to the bathroom so it'll be another little bit|pg|| nt|kareno: I assume Meckstroth went for a cigarette|pg|| pg|| qx|o39|st||md|1ST94HAQ6DKCKJ8632,SKQ865HKJT2DJ2CQ9,SJ72H543DAT964CT5,SA3H987DQ8753CA74|sv|b|nt|Leo LaSota: 1C = long clubs or 15+ bal|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Leo LaSota: very friendly layout for E/W with spades 33, hearts 33 with Q onside; King clubs onside|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Even the @D K is friendly sitting alone, 9 tricks in NT for EW if they stumble there?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: sure|pg|| pc|cT|nt|jkdood: Leo, you agree with 2@C vul with that tattered suit?|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 3 small spades is really an awful holding, so pass would be my choice|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| nt|jkdood: It might have kept the opps from a silly but fruitful 3N, so no damage for sure|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: true it is a bidder's game, but the 2C bid was inconsequential to the final contract here.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| nt|jkdood: Since my spies tell me a 2@C precision opening by S resulted in EW declaring 2N, we wil see how many tricks come in soon|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| nt|jkdood: (from the Closed Room results)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: if this is the correct play so far, declarer will lose just one diamond|pg|| nt|jkdood: Of course, the play in 3N would be a bit looser, as entries to the hand to lead hearts are scarce, then the play in 2NT|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: last trump here, then cash hearts, club q, exit diamond to South|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jkdood: And in fact the other room 2NT coontract made 10 tricks!|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jkdood: (A Raccoon told me that spelling:-)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|sT|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: +170 for a push?|pg|| nt|phil: fun three card ending (hi Leo / Jay)|pg|| mc|10|nt|jkdood: Welcome Phil Clayton!|pg|| pg|| qx|c39|st||md|1ST94HAQ6DKCKJ8632,SKQ865HKJT2DJ2CQ9,SJ72H543DAT964CT5,SA3H987DQ8753CA74|sv|b|nt|rick3son: that would be a good wager|pg|| mb|2C!|an|6 !cs, 10-15 I think|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|NKGupt: Gupta kaun hai?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rick3son: : 10-15, 6+@C can have any side 4/5-card suit|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: King asks about 2@c "6+ clubs, precision style, he could have side suits"|pg|| pc|c6|nt|Vugraphzfb: King "thank you" Bell: "that's very generous of you"|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kareno: 2nt will fetch with the lucky spade lie. Might make three depending how he goes about it.|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| nt|rick3son: friendly hearts cant go wrong|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: King: "do you play any Smith?" Rod: "we play reverse Smith"|pg|| nt|rick3son: and broken communciation in @d no worries|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|nt|kareno: Good play in hearts - play low when you don't want a cover, high when you do!|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|kareno: Now he doesn't need spades but they come anyway for overtricks|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|sT|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o40|st||md|2SAT95H2DJT943CA76,S4HQJ864D862CQT92,SK8632HAK975DAQ5C,SQJ7HT3DK7CKJ8543|sv|o|nt|Leo LaSota: hi Phil|pg|| mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: not the worst slam to bid with the N/S hands here|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jkdood: So other than a small swing by King on the first board with his "super-accept" of xfr, its been tame so far|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: unfortunately as the cards lie, can only make 5 spades.|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|jkdood: What about 6@D ?|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 3S N/S play as a 4+ card LR in spades here.|pg|| nt|jkdood: Probably also down 1, but some extra hope|pg|| nt|phil: I like the old Mathe Asking Bid here where 3N asks shortness by North|pg|| nt|jkdood: South has a tough call over 1@S, many specs don't like the call chosen|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: 5C exclusion|pg|| nt|jkdood: To some specs: Exclusion asks aces but says EXCLUDE the suit I am void in|pg|| mb|5H|nt|Leo LaSota: 5H = 1 keycard outside of clubs|pg|| nt|phil: seems like a reasonable call - North has a slam force opp a limit raise|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 0314 responses they play|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: no room to ask for the queen now|pg|| mb|d|nt|Leo LaSota: no room to ask below force to slam|pg|| nt|phil: pass = Q? |pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: but Ruderman likes the auction and has all of they 4 keycardss|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: A heart, Ace diamond, AK spades|pg|| pc|hT|nt|jkdood: I am told other room stopped in 5@D, so Gupta will gain 13 or so it seems|pg|| pc|h2|nt|Leo LaSota: Dave and Dave do not have the followup agreements on this auction on what would be the queen ask; even if they did, since Abelow does not have it they would stop in 6S.|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: down 1|pg|| pc|h8|nt|phil: win 10|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|nt|Leo LaSota: rather unlucky for King; very good slam that they reached but will go down with QJx spades and diamond king offside.|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d5|mc|11|pg|| qx|c40|st||md|2SAT95H2DJT943CA76,S4HQJ864D862CQT92,SK8632HAK975DAQ5C,SQJ7HT3DK7CKJ8543|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfb: Rod: "you had stiff K of diamonds?" Meck: "yes, you had A ten fifth? ... there was no killing lead"|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|an|STR, ART, F1|nt|kareno: 6@s depends on picking up spades or diamonds but neither works. |pg|| mb|2C|nt|rick3son: if specs want to bounce back and forth between tables You can use the "other table" if you are on web version|pg|| mb|2D!|an|5+ !ds, FG, 8+ HCP|mb|5C|nt|kareno: Good pressure bid by Bell|pg|| nt|rick3son: 2@D = 5+suit, game force|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Good stop as it happens|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|rick3son: ona dime|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|rick3son: well judged|pg|| nt|rick3son: if gives ruff loses natural trick|pg|| nt|kareno: Only two losers here as in spades - a spade and a diamond. |pg|| pc|s9|nt|rick3son: huh?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sT|nt|rick3son: is np|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| nt|rick3son: sorry answered another ? from private|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cQ|mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "I think they go down 4" Rod: "sorry, my other choice was to double" Meck: "maybe only 3 ... you had 5 hearts? (Bell "yes") ... they can hold it to 500"|pg|| pg|| qx|o41|st||md|3SJ65HQ9764DT953C9,S72HKT83DKJ7CT764,SAT8HA52D4CAKQ853,SKQ943HJDAQ862CJ2|sv|e|nt|jkdood: The opps intervened with clubs at other table, perhaps helping Meckwell to stop|pg|| mb|1C|nt|Leo LaSota: 1C = long clubs or 15+ balanced|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: Ruderman picturing hands for partner that could make 3nt|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|jkdood: 4@H would be feasible for NS on a good day, but things lie very poorly for even a heart partial|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: Bramley elects to not take a chance at these colors, especially with 2 small clubs.|pg|| nt|phil: 3C is a sensible value call - partner could still try 3@d with a forward going hand|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Indeed Phil|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Leo LaSota: nice choice of leads|pg|| nt|jkdood: Par on this board may actually be 3@D by E/W making?|pg|| nt|phil: yeah, the 3@c call partially hints at spade length (no reopening x)|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|Leo LaSota: 3D does not make|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 2 clubs, 2 major suit aces, trump promo|pg|| pc|cK|nt|phil: seems you need mirrors to make 3@d after two clubs, heart and third club|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|phil: and a promo after the @sA as Leo says|pg|| pc|s3|nt|phil: even 2@d might be a challenge|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: E/W doing well here |pg|| pc|c8|pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|cT|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: down 2|pg|| nt|phil: Dave Abelow is a So Cal transplant after years in Washington DC - we are happy to grab him Leo :)|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: on spade shift, then diamonds from the opponents|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Abelow is a very solid, down the middle with his bidding and a good card player.|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s4|nt|phil: indeed, he was my GNT teammate a few years ago|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| mc|7|nt|phil: my GNT partner this year was Joe Kivel, another DC player from years back lol|pg|| pg|| qx|c41|st||md|3SJ65HQ9764DT953C9,S72HKT83DKJ7CT764,SAT8HA52D4CAKQ853,SKQ943HJDAQ862CJ2|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|1N!|an|2 suits same shape|nt|rick3son: without the preemption other table used 5@c exclusion|pg|| mb|p|an|0-5|mb|2D!|an|pass or correct|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|rick3son: showing a void and asking for count of aces not including @c|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|rick3son: some specs have noted Meckwell were lcuky to not have ability to balckwood|pg|| nt|rick3son: sorry misspells|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, the OR never checked for the queen of trumps. That might have saved them|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s3|pc|d5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d2|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|rick3son: an aspect of defense to big club opener that can often be successful is jammimg the auction forcing the club opener to mention their real suit at high level|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|sJ|pc|dK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| mc|8|nt|kareno: Well played|pg|| pg|| qx|o42|st||md|4SK32H4DK543CAK942,SJT85HA73DQT8CQJT,SAQ9HKQJ62DAJ6C65,S764HT985D972C873|sv|b|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: DC had a strong group of players from back in the day.|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: 1D = 4+ diamonds, unbalanced|pg|| nt|phil: yeah sad to see Capp Sr. pass away recently|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Leo LaSota: 2C = natural, usually a isngleton or void in hearts|pg|| nt|jkdood: Yes, early in November, left us a nice legacy, and will be missed|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 2S = 4th suit GF|pg|| mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: 2nt then is natural, 3D sets diamonds for a slam try, SOuth rebids 3nt with only Kxxx of diamonds.|pg|| nt|jkdood: His son, Mike Jr, is a very active player at present|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|phil: this sequence might cause North to get diamond-happy|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|phil: I think 3@s is perfect by South now|pg|| mb|3N|nt|Leo LaSota: well, as the cards lay (very friendly Qxx diamond onside), slam is there.|pg|| mb|p|nt|jkdood: ON last board (3@C) just down 1 in other room, so 2 more to Gupta|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|Leo LaSota: in 6D, the play is neat|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: with Axx hearts in the West and qxx diamonds, the slam can be brought home|pg|| nt|phil: I guess you really never use the club suit unless W ducks the @hA|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: if West ducks the heart ace, you could ruff hearts twice in hand|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: and make 7|pg|| pc|s9|nt|phil: or just ruff out the clubs and lose a trump|pg|| pc|s6|nt|Leo LaSota: :)|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|nt|jkdood: Bidding up to 6@D would have been quite the fortunate stumble|pg|| pc|d3|pc|hA|pg|| nt|phil: indeed - would have negated the 6@s|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|nt|Leo LaSota: will make 5nt here|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: just play on hearts and lose another heart|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|mc|11|pg|| qx|c42|st||md|4SK32H4DK543CAK942,SJT85HA73DQT8CQJT,SAQ9HKQJ62DAJ6C65,S764HT985D972C873|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfb: Meckstroth, who had been gone except for the last couple of tricks: "looks like you did well on that"|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|an|minors, but clubs may be longer|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|3-1-5-4 or 3-1-4-5|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|kareno: Well, this is a good hand for a cup of tea ... (_)? and a cookie or two ... OOO|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm actually drinking sugarless Chai|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| nt|rick3son: l' Chai im|pg|| nt|kareno: Happy Chanukkah|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|rick3son: ty|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| nt|rick3son: some hands are like "rest" hands|pg|| nt|rick3son: less pressure , can take a breather|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "I'm not going to go down" general laughter|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|rick3son: how many kibitzers in room ?|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| nt|rick3son: at playing sight?|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o43|st||md|1SJ72HAKQ92D86CQ95,S86543HTDAJT752C8,SAKH76543D3CAKJ74,SQT9HJ8DKQ94CT632|sv|o|nt|phil: easy 6@h here|pg|| nt|phil: 7@d not quite profitable|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2H|nt|jkdood: How does 6@S fare as a sac?|pg|| nt|phil: Leo - 2@h or a D preempt|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: take your pick or pass; anything could work|pg|| mb|4S|nt|phil: 2@h does get the spades in the picture|pg|| nt|phil: 4@s RKC I suppose|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 4S is the no messing around, RKC for hearts partner!|pg|| mb|d|nt|phil: I will say North is a practical player - hard to criticize that trait|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Believe Dave and Dave play Ropi here|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Redouble with 0 |pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Pass with 1|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 4nt with 2 or 5 no Q|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 5C = 2 w/ queen|pg|| nt|phil: strongly prefer D1P0 - only because the steps parallel regular 1430|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: yes, but they play 0314 :)|pg|| nt|phil: ah|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|jkdood: It important to have firm agreements for sure|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: both of them comfortable with this part of the bidding tool; |pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Ruderman just double counting I believe|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: well done|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: only lead to make 7|pg|| pc|s8|nt|phil: playing kickback, 4@s is fraught with risk, unless youve discussed the sequence|pg|| nt|jkdood: Should be a fast claim|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Leo LaSota: is the singleton club|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: or spade|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: or heart|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: ...|pg|| nt|phil: or heh|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: aces against slams anyone?|pg|| mc|13|nt|Leo LaSota: no big deal|pg|| pg|| qx|c43|st||md|1SJ72HAKQ92D86CQ95,S86543HTDAJT752C8,SAKH76543D3CAKJ74,SQT9HJ8DKQ94CT632|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfb: THere are 6 kibitzers at this table - I can't see any of the other tables. |pg|| nt|rick3son: i meant specifically that table thanks|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Kibitzers are allowed at the playing tables when we're on vugraph, but they are required to come at the beginning of a set and if they leave the room they can't return (except when ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: they accompany a player to smoke or the bathroom :))|pg|| mb|1H|mb|3D|mb|4N|mb|5D|nt|rick3son: maybe they could arrange an arena someday :)|pg|| nt|rick3son: but would be hard to keep the crowd quiet i bet|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: With screens, it's really hard for more than about 4 people to see well - sitting on the side of the table where the screen is (as I do, but I get to be high up) it's hard to see ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: the other side of the screen, so only the two "spots" on the "open" side are good seats|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Long ago, they used to have "pit" matches, with bleachers around the tables :)|pg|| mb|5S|an|2 + Q|nt|rick3son: thafor your description of playing sitenks |pg|| mb|6D|nt|rick3son: thanks for your description of playing site|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|nt|kareno: I've played in a pit - at a World Championship for Canada against US|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Open team as it happened3.|pg|| mb|p|nt|rick3son: did the audience distract you, Karen?|pg|| pc|dA|nt|kareno: Not at all|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|rick3son: was it in Canada?|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o44|st||md|2SKQ5HQ984DT86C532,SJ864HK73DJ73CKQ4,ST9HAT52DK5CAT976,SA732HJ6DAQ942CJ8|sv|n|nt|Leo LaSota: but would expect dummy to be produving tricks in clubs for their RKC blast|pg|| mb|p|nt|jkdood: Bell did lead @D Ace, so King gains 1|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 1nt = 11 to 14 for Ruderman|pg|| nt|phil: 11-14 for NS at these colors? |pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: less risk when they are passed hand on your right|pg|| nt|phil: pretty nice 11|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: indeed|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|phil: systemically 1@c doesnt seem possible|pg|| mb|d|mb|1N|nt|Leo LaSota: makes the default, "I am not about to get doubled for my life" 1C opening, showing 5+ clubs unbalanced normally, or 15+ balanced.|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: double is transfer to hearts|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 4+|pg|| mb|2H|nt|phil: may not matter but nice to protect the @dK|pg|| mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: 2H = 15 to bad 17 balanced with 4 hearts, or unbalanced with long clubs and 4 hearts |pg|| nt|phil: do they play support x's or strong NT x's? |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Leo LaSota: would be a real stretch with ABelow's hand to go|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: they play 11-14|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: so jump over the transfer ahows the 15-17 support points normally|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Leo LaSota: either HCP baalnced, or playing strength distribution|pg|| nt|phil: yeah but would North's x be "I have a strong NT" or is it support?|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: over 1nt, double is support, 15+|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|phil: both are played by weak NTs pairs; the strong NT x seems more common|pg|| nt|phil: ok|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| nt|jkdood: When 1NT is natural, many agree support x's are off|pg|| nt|phil: that too|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: normally, the double is again a 15+ so partner may convert the double|pg|| nt|phil: he can place the @dA on his left after this lead|pg|| nt|jkdood: With @Hs frozen, seems EW can make 2@D, but might get +100 here on defense which is equal|pg|| nt|jkdood: 3@D I meant|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: yes, but he is wondering whether the ace spades is underled or ducked by STansby|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: nice play of the queen of hearts|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: very likely Wesdt has the king with the 1nt bid over the heart transfer (though Jxxx is possible and rare chance of 3 without the king)|pg|| nt|phil: actually ducking a club to Bramley looks superior - now Bramley can win the @s, cash the heart, and exit the @cJ and get off endplays|pg|| nt|jkdood: a spade now will make East need a club shift, then it gets awkward|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: duck jack club on that line phil|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: now what?|pg|| nt|phil: another club|pg|| nt|phil: oh|pg|| pc|c9|nt|Leo LaSota: if club continue, win it, trump to dummy ptich diamond on spade, play 3rd club, claim|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|nt|phil: now theres an entry to cash the @sK|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| nt|phil: so the defense does better to play low club to Q....(?)|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Leo LaSota: surprised at the duck of club shift|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: win queen club, spade up|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: cannot untangle defensive tricks|pg|| nt|jkdood: Yes, Phil, thats why I said "gets awkward"|pg|| nt|phil: well, theyve done better with North playing it regardless - with a diamond through at T1 the hand is over quickly|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|nt|phil: by South|pg|| nt|jkdood: We see other room failed in same contract, looks like a push now|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|Leo LaSota: very interesting hand for just a partial|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| nt|phil: needed to save this one for the Reisinger :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|Leo LaSota: :)|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|mc|7|pg|| qx|c44|st||md|2SKQ5HQ984DT86C532,SJ864HK73DJ73CKQ4,ST9HAT52DK5CAT976,SA732HJ6DAQ942CJ8|sv|n|nt|kareno: Other than holding up my hand for them to see, I hardly noticed them. They were quiet. |pg|| nt|rick3son: nice and respectful, what was the timeline?|pg|| nt|kareno: No I think in Monte Carlo|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck claimed by tossing his hand face down on the table - kibitzers laughed - Meck: "I was going to draw the trumps" Bell: "you say that now, but we'll never know"|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rick3son: a spec comments, 7@d would been ok save|pg|| mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| nt|rick3son: would have required spade ruff to get it 1100 " sticks and wheels"|pg|| nt|rick3son: the spade save would have been less expensive but hard to find when nobdy bids them|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|rick3son: I need to break, Karen will you be here final quarter?|pg|| nt|rick3son: prepared to stay up late tonight?|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c3|nt|kareno: Is there a commentator who can help for the rest of the quarter?|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|kareno: He's doing well but can't keep west off play forever|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d4|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o45|st||md|3SKT5HJ743DA72CQJT,S986HAK9DT963CK82,SJ432HQDQJ85CA943,SAQ7HT8652DK4C765|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|c45|st||md|3SKT5HJ743DA72CQJT,S986HAK9DT963CK82,SJ432HQDQJ85CA943,SAQ7HT8652DK4C765|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Rodwell: "well, let's try for 1 down this time"|pg|| nt|kareno: lol|pg|| nt|kareno: Jan, you are the best - we can always picture what's happening in the playing room |pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|kareno: Already west is endplayed!|pg|| pc|d6|nt|H_Karluk: Hi Jan, Karen and Rick|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Rod: "and after trick 1?" King: "tends to be more attitude than count"|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| nt|kareno: Hamdi :)|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: Ma'am ;)|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm sure this will be a plus for n/s. North isn't yet, however.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|d7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|nt|kareno: Nice play|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|s3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d8|nt|kareno: Now a diamond forces another trick no matter how the spades lie.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|d9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o46|st||md|4SQ95HQJT8DAKJ74C2,S43HA765DQ83CAQ83,SAK82HK32DT6CK974,SJT76H94D952CJT65|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|jkdood: 3NT by NS? Touch and go perhaps, mostly touch|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 1D unbalanced with diamonds|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|phil: seems easy with @cA on and 4-4, but may have some guessing|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: some pairs that play transfers over 1C play a version of Cole over 1D-1maj|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|jkdood: 3N seems set with a club lead, or will they find a Moysian (4-3 major fit game)?|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: which could be based on many unbalanced hands with 3 cards in responder's major|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: 3@s 3@h 2@d 1@c? |pg|| pc|c5|nt|Leo LaSota: Dave and Dave play 2C natural howevere|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: make 3 if plays on the heart suit|pg|| nt|phil: Stansby can get cagey with the club spots and feign 5-3? |pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: down if plays onm the diamond suit instead|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: however, the diamonds would have to come in for 5 tricks (even 3 will not suffice)|pg|| nt|phil: this really would be the auto play with AQx|pg|| nt|jkdood: Not an easy guess right now, is it?|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: hence playing the hearts is the % play|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|phil: wd|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: well done by Dave|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|jkdood: Meckwell scored +140 on the pass-out, so gain 4 more imps|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Pass out is not in the vocabulary :)|pg|| nt|jkdood: LOL|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|phil: pass out is so rare - like Leo's robdoops :)|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|dJ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c46|st||md|4SQ95HQJT8DAKJ74C2,S43HA765DQ83CAQ83,SAK82HK32DT6CK974,SJT76H94D952CJT65|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfb: Rod: "friendly layout there"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "make 3no" Rod: "even in the dirty old days, wouldn't bid that one"|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: I predict 3nt n/s|pg|| mb|1D|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|H_Karluk: as the cards lie I guess by N 4@s there, but if they would pick 3N I wont be surprised|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Teach me - they are in the Moysian fit.|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: so true|pg|| nt|kareno: Really south is endplayed into raising spades, not a bad bid|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| nt|rick3son: rehi|pg|| nt|kareno: East doesn't want any ruffs|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: holding JT76 trumps and Jt65 clubs still safe lead|pg|| nt|rick3son: I like your phrase in profile "forever young", Hamdi|pg|| nt|rick3son: it is a good attitude to keep|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: ahh thanky, one of my failings -- still fan of Bob Dylan and Joan Baez, long story ;) btw seems Eric thinking deep there|pg|| nt|kareno: He's not a fast player|pg|| nt|rick3son: however, when you visit bridge tournaments it is a reminder that we can not stay forever oung|pg|| nt|kareno: Obviously he's concerned about heart ruffs. |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|kareno: I would ruff a club, play three rounds of trumps and push the heart I think.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|s9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kareno: n/s had a good result making 3nt - nine tricks with clubs working|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|sT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d2|nt|Vugraphzfb: nice defense|pg|| nt|kareno: He wasn't placed well for the club ruff|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o47|st||md|1SK943HA63DQ8CAJ74,S87HKT9742DJ5CKQ8,SQT65HJDT762CT652,SAJ2HQ85DAK943C93|sv|n|nt|Leo LaSota: 11-14|pg|| nt|phil: I think they'll get to 4@h|pg|| mb|1N|nt|jkdood: With the help of South's opening, 4@H shouldn't be too hard to make|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|jkdood: 2@D shows 1 major, interesting bid now for East|pg|| nt|jkdood: 2N?|pg|| nt|phil: either 2N or some 4 level transfer me - transfer you bid|pg|| mb|4H|nt|Leo LaSota: pas or correct|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkdood: Well, that was quick and efficient|pg|| nt|jkdood: Nice to have the stronger hand on lead, also|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: 5 likely|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: diamond q anyone?|pg|| pc|h3|nt|Leo LaSota: small start setting up diamonds now|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: South marked with Axx hearts|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: and 2+ diamonds|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: can time this to lose just 1 club, 1 heart|pg|| nt|jkdood: Or just finding the @C Ace onside with the opener is at least 10 easy|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: second thought, can hold to 4 still with care|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|Leo LaSota: nevertheless, not a big deal at imps 4 or 5|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|phil: I think so |pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| nt|jkdood: spade shift now will hold|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: takes spade shift here|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: yes|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|Leo LaSota: wel done by Abelow|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: well|pg|| nt|jkdood: An imp is an imp, yep|pg|| nt|phil: I think a club works OK too|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c47|st||md|1SK943HA63DQ8CAJ74,S87HKT9742DJ5CKQ8,SQT65HJDT762CT652,SAJ2HQ85DAK943C93|sv|n|nt|rick3son: did you enjoy your Tea, Karen?|pg|| nt|kareno: Very much thanks|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: I guess that would be an everyday 4@h|pg|| nt|rick3son: this quarter is nearing a close now deadlocked|pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|2H|nt|kareno: For anyone who hasn't tried it, Chai is delicious. With or without milk but I prefer without sugar|pg|| mb|p|nt|rick3son: so far, King has not been able to cut into the lead|pg|| nt|rick3son: but hasnt fell backwards either|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: I would just bid game with the east hand.|pg|| mb|p|pc|d6|nt|rick3son: many people like Chai Tea as a latte|pg|| nt|kareno: brb = phone. I think east shouldn't just invite - this is IMPs - bid game!|pg|| nt|kareno: Any state of the match!!|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: yes I agree with Karen, fast arrival is better approach on such situations, esp against 14-16 NT range|pg|| nt|rick3son: agree with Karen, east has 4 cover cards|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: depends how aggressive 2@h can be of course, but at the other table, East did just bid game|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: well, he saved the day|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|s5|pc|h5|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Rodwell: "time to play a 5 I guess" |pg|| nt|rick3son: point well made by a spec, vul games need to bid on thin margins|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|nt|rick3son: even so nv|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|h9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c7|nt|H_Karluk: Eric is a good pianist and I bet he knows life is like a piano... what you get out of it depends on how you play it ;)|pg|| pc|hT|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s7|nt|kareno: Vulnerable games are bid with even less than 40 percent chances. But this figured to be a pretty good game once partner intervened. 4 cover cards and a doubleton|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o48|st||md|2SAJ6HAJ542DKCAQ74,ST2HKQT9DA2CKT963,SK5H873DJ9743CJ82,SQ98743H6DQT865C5|sv|e|nt|Leo LaSota: with 6 hearts in the South hand, you are correct|pg|| nt|jkdood: Last board of this set, one more set soon; Thanks Leo, Phil, great OP, wonderful specs, and of course BBO!|pg|| nt|phil: thanks Jay, Leo good fun....|pg|| nt|phil: ty to Bridge Base, the ACBL and all that jazz|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|phil: just a superfluous pass in there :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: ahem|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: :)|pg|| nt|jkdood: Quite a psyche, but I think Phil is right, OP?|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: hard to pass with 19, but....|pg|| nt|jkdood: Sensible pass or ultra-conservative by S?|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Abelow is a solid citizen|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: does not like to go for numbers|pg|| nt|jkdood: I think Leo just answered|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: and Ruderman raises hearts on just about anything, especially favorable|pg|| pc|hA|nt|phil: South has a 'picture gallery' - very nice to look at all the royalty, but can't do much with it|pg|| nt|jkdood: LOL|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| nt|jkdood: EW may make this|pg|| nt|phil: Abelow exhales when he sees those hearts in dummy|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: lol|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: when he sees those clubs :)|pg|| nt|jkdood: (AND the clubs!)|pg|| nt|jkdood: too fast Leo :(|pg|| nt|phil: right!|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|nt|Leo LaSota: would not expect ace spades there :)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| nt|jkdood: Meckwell in Moysian (4-3 @S down 1) not 3N so King gains 11 to even this segment|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: Bramley has the King clubs, Queen hearts in reserve with the ace diamond in dummy|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|Leo LaSota: diamond to the king and ace is icing on the cake|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: cash club|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: high heart, then spade|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: well, anything can happen in 16 boards|pg|| nt|phil: Bramley probably thought this was a lost cause looking at dummy|pg|| pc|cK|nt|Leo LaSota: strong resolve from the King team tying up the set|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|d8|nt|Leo LaSota: of course this bd is still to be scored|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|8|nt|Leo LaSota: may eveen gain one for King on 47|pg|| nt|jkdood: Thanks again, come back soon!|pg|| nt|Leo LaSota: ty all|pg|| pg|| qx|c48|st||md|2SAJ6HAJ542DKCAQ74,ST2HKQT9DA2CKT963,SK5H873DJ9743CJ82,SQ98743H6DQT865C5|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfb: Meck: "could have held it to 4" Rod: "not sure" Meck: "rise withthe A of clubs and play a spade?"|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|rick3son: when playing piano hands can be going in diffeent directions|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rick3son: the ability to divide attention|pg|| nt|kareno: Good decision by Rodwell|pg|| pc|sT|nt|rick3son: how much break?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: We'll probably be back quite quickly after they finish here. It's up to the teams, but they usually want to get going again |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: I wonder would they try 3@h in case 2@s appeared at the table|pg|| pc|d3|nt|rick3son: maybe 2@s wud push them one higher|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: still fine, x-1 100 nice save on 3@h|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|nt|rick3son: thanks to vugraph operator|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|s3|pg|| nt|rick3son: your efforts are appreciated|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: right, appreciated Jan, excellent work as always|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|kareno: Thanks all. I'll try to return but most likely you will see me only tomorrow. Still packing for my cruise.|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|H_Karluk: thanks to Karen and Rick also, Karen please don't tell me you're on your way to Bahamas ;)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|s7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|mc|9|nt|kareno: For those who are asking - driving to San Diego and cruising round trip to Hawaii|pg|| pg||