vg|41st WBTC-BBO1,BB-F2,I,17,32,MONACO,29,ITALY,54| rs|3NN=,3NN=,3NE=,3NE+1,4HS=,4HS=,4SW=,6SW-2,4SS+2,6SS=,3DSx-3,4SW-1,3NW+2,3NW+3,4HW+2,6HW=,4HN+1,4HS+1,4HN-1,1HN+2,3NS=,3NS+1,5DS=,5DS=,2SS+2,1NS=,4SE=,4SW+1,4HE=,4HE=,5DN=,5DN=| pn|NUNES,VERSACE,FANTONI,LAURIA,MADALA,HELGEMO,BOCCHI,HELNESS|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAQ76HDAKT52CT875,SKJ94HKT984DQ6CJ3,ST5HAQJ75D874CAQ4,S832H632DJ93CK962|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 12-14 throughout includes some atypical shapes|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = RELAY, possible 4@S INV|pg|| pc|c2|nt|tokay1975: hi all|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ew spot leads vs NT = attitude [high cards welcome shift to new suit, low cards prefer continuation]|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: reverse count & attitude, odd/even discard|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h4|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h8|pc|h5|nt|JaapFr: needs to throw in W to make this|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|JaapFr: or set up @CT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|hT|pg|| nt|JaapFr: i assume he will play @HA @HQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAQ76HDAKT52CT875,SKJ94HKT984DQ6CJ3,ST5HAQJ75D874CAQ4,S832H632DJ93CK962|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|zer: hello|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SAQJHKT932DJT3CJ6,SK52H86DA87CKQ975,S943HQ75DQ9542C43,ST876HAJ4DK6CAT82|sv|n|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+|pg|| mb|1H|nt|ritong: re al and all|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|serhat: nice lead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS reverse count & attitude|pg|| nt|JaapFr: vulnerable overcall so @SA 90% sure well placed and @SK no 9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SAQJHKT932DJT3CJ6,SK52H86DA87CKQ975,S943HQ75DQ9542C43,ST876HAJ4DK6CAT82|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|cuan: hi all and welcome|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|nt|nemeo: hi all ciao Antonio :)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|nt|cuan: this is the second of six rounds of Bermuda's final|pg|| nt|cuan: ciao Mario :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: hi all|pg|| nt|zer: hello|pg|| nt|cuan: Italy ahead 25 imps for now (6 imps by carry over)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|cQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d2|nt|cuan: Helgemo-Helness don't played in the first round (Fantunes and Zimmermann-Multon the line-up). Same line-up for the Italy|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|cuan: Natural systems for both pairs, but with many agreements|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S7HKQT62DKQJ5CAJ3,SJT543H94DA98C964,SAK8HJ753D642C752,SQ962HA8DT73CKQT8|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = forcing [all 1-suit openings] 14+ hcp or 11+ @H & @S|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = 3+fit, 5+ HCP|pg|| nt|ahollan1: someone who's now playing the system says 3-fit, 7-9 4-fit, 5-9 or 8-11 w/splinter|pg|| nt|JaapFr: this board played 100 times how many results are +420? 95 or more:)?|pg|| nt|ferlema: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kEaJqph9TM&feature=youtu.be|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H - 2@C would include game forcing raises so 2N = limited|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: live video of our table http://new.livestream.com/accounts/5339416/WBTC-Bali|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| mc|10|nt|bebechira: not true al|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S7HKQT62DKQJ5CAJ3,SJT543H94DA98C964,SAK8HJ753D642C752,SQ962HA8DT73CKQT8|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|nilsland: Helgemo and Helness is very fast players compared to the others in this level, so we will perhaps not see many results from other table in advance|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|nemeo: 3@c is a two-way support bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|nemeo: either a void or 6-8 balanced|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h3|nt|nemeo: always 4+ trumps|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|cuan: quite 4@H here|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|mc|10|nt|nemeo: 3@d relay, 3@h showing the weaker hand|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SH9853DQ872CJ9843,SAQ762HJT4DJCA652,SJ953HQ62DAKT63CK,SKT84HAK7D954CQT7|sv|b|nt|bebechira: i sneaked in the camera in closed room|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: sorry it is video of other room|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = FG a) nat b) BAL|pg|| nt|serhat: I think it is going to be a swing|pg|| nt|JaapFr: optimistic slam bidding here|pg|| nt|serhat: yes|pg|| nt|JaapFr: there|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S = min|pg|| nt|granguru: needs the stiff @CK on the other side to make 12|pg|| nt|granguru: and better @s distribution|pg|| nt|JaapFr: and @HQ|pg|| nt|granguru: and @Hq onside|pg|| nt|serhat: balanced min hand over min opening! |pg|| nt|ritong: very uncharacteristic|pg|| nt|JaapFr: so a less than 5% slam|pg|| nt|ferlema: i didnt see the discard for the eth club dummy|pg|| nt|ritong: i wonder what went wrong|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|s2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: RETRACTION 2@S = 1-suiter or 2-suits with 4@C and a min |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm getting tired -- that's not right either|pg|| nt|serhat: 650 I am guessing|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: oh 2nd explanation was right |pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|s6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| nt|JaapFr: Al we appreciate yr involvement in a ""European"" final:) |pg|| nt|granguru: 2@c is art asking bid about the hand|pg|| nt|serhat: nor @D will bring one more trick for the defence|pg|| nt|serhat: now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not as artificial as some of the pure RELAY pairs|pg|| nt|granguru: a @s or a @H return declarer wins all|pg|| pc|dT|nt|granguru: so @D is the only wich reduces t o10 tricks|pg|| nt|granguru: @HQ could also do damage but cant be defeated|pg|| nt|serhat: he will have to ruff with A and pitch a @H for safety play|pg|| pc|h7|nt|JaapFr: 4@S C or +1 or +2 same 13 imps|pg|| pc|h5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|nt|granguru: if @S declarer takes @SA and finesses @H and takes @SK when in dummy|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SH9853DQ872CJ9843,SAQ762HJT4DJCA652,SJ953HQ62DAKT63CK,SKT84HAK7D954CQT7|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|nemeo: jacoby 2n for e-w|pg|| mb|p|nt|nilsland: EW better be careful here|pg|| nt|nilsland: I guess 4@D shows a singleton since East is thinking :)|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|nt|cuan: too high|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|nt|nilsland: this will have no chance at all|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg|| nt|cuan: he needs @H finesse for -1|pg|| pc|s7|mc|10|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAKQ84HA32D4CA976,S9HQ9875D76CKJ543,S765HK4DAQJT32CQ2,SJT32HJT6DK985CT8|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: is this a 2@D or 1N opener?|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: fantunes opening 2-bids 10-13, 5+suit, unbal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 6+suit or some singleton/void|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NOT 5422|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|granguru: 2@D 10-13 5+ @d one or 2-suited with a singleton or void|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|granguru: 75% of the points should be in the lon suit(s)|pg|| nt|granguru: long*|pg|| nt|ritong: slam does not play well here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S would show short @H or @S not sure about 2N :(|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@H art relay |pg|| nt|granguru: 2@s would have been 3+ @S|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: but Fantoni decided to show a 1-suited hand no singleton |pg|| nt|ritong: but madala managed to make it|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: i'm being told 2N = 6@D no shortness or 5@D 4@S 1@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|JaapFr: y 6@S makes if layed by S|pg|| nt|serhat: 6S is okay Henry|pg|| nt|granguru: 2Nt shows no major suit shortage |pg|| nt|serhat: but needs ruffing finese|pg|| nt|ahollan1: others saying 2@S always short @H|pg|| nt|granguru: so @d is a 6card suit|pg|| nt|serhat: great result.. from CR|pg|| nt|JaapFr: in fact if you are in 6@S also SD no other chance than to make it|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: majority of comments saying 3N = 6@D(322) or 7@D222, MAX|pg|| nt|JaapFr: DD double dummy seeing 52 cards as we do and SD Single Dummy as at the table only seeing 26 cards|pg|| nt|granguru: N might be xxx Hx xx AKQxxx or xx xx Kx AKQxxxx or similars|pg|| mb|4S|nt|serhat: may be this is the final contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: live stream at new.livestream.com/accounts/5339416/WBTC-Bali|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|serhat: 13 more for Italy|pg|| nt|granguru: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/5339416/WBTC-Bali|pg|| nt|JaapFr: anyway 6@S has apriori some 40-45% chance to be made so wise not to bid it|pg|| nt|begse: @d lead beats 6@s|pg|| nt|JaapFr: not really imo|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c4|pc|s6|nt|granguru: Helgemo led @S9 in the other table|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s4|pc|d7|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SAKQ84HA32D4CA976,S9HQ9875D76CKJ543,S765HK4DAQJT32CQ2,SJT32HJT6DK985CT8|sv|n|nt|cuan: now live stream of this room http://new.livestream.com/accounts/5339416/WBTC-Bali|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|nilsland: Helgemo did not even play for the small chance of singleton K with South together with H finesse|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|cuan: 2@D is @H@C twosuiter|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|nemeo: Bocchi's double apparently showing just good diamonds, as they don't play support doubles - 2@s then showed 3|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|nt|cuan: 4NT is key cards|pg|| nt|nilsland: Helgemo's bid maybe should have told Madala about bad breaks, but 6N from S looks makable|pg|| nt|cuan: 5@C = 1-4|pg|| mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|bebechira: i sneaked the camera into this room...so you have livestream from VG match|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|nt|nilsland: will he find some way to finess spades?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|cuan: madala knows 11 cards in west. i think he will right play |pg|| nt|nilsland: with knowledge of C+H in West there is many chanses to make this|pg|| nt|nemeo: swing coming for Italy on board 20, L-V stopped in 4@s|pg|| nt|cuan: @H@C twosuiter bidded in west, is a good information|pg|| nt|nilsland: there is always a backside of showing distribution with weak hands, actually many pairs playing strong club systems welcome opponents bidding on nothing|pg|| nt|nilsland: I think he can afford to take another spade trick |pg|| nt|cuan: few comunications with the dummy. so he must play for Kx in west or Kxxx in east. The second option is better (4 cards against two)|pg|| nt|nilsland: SA, DA and DQ and then ruff out the king - ruff a heart and run the diamonds|pg|| nt|cuan: Kx or Kxxx in @D|pg|| pc|sK|nt|nilsland: SK first I mean, to check|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d4|nt|nilsland: it is kind of DD with the odds|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|c6|pc|d6|pg|| nt|cuan: right percentage play|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SJ6H76542DA9754C7,SKT75HAJDKQ862C62,SA83HT3DJ3CAJT953,SQ942HKQ98DTCKQ84|sv|e|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+|pg|| nt|begse: he needs to guess to ruff 3rd @d or play on @s the line he makes he needs 4-2 @d break|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = 5+@H 5+@D|pg|| nt|JaapFr: sorry nafiz : but if lead @D (no standard lead) than an unorthodox to make still 12 tricks|pg|| mb|3D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|JaapFr: way|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ritong: drama boards piling up|pg|| nt|ritong: not good for the show, this|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|d4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|JaapFr: pls explain bidding|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|JaapFr: by N and S|pg|| nt|granguru: Terence Reese a great theorist and writer was pretty against giving this distribution information to opponets with very weak 2 suited hands|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|JosJ: he was right :)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h8|nt|granguru: he stated that normally they will play the hand anyhow now with all the information regarding the postion and distribution of opponents cards|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|s4|pc|dA|pg|| nt|granguru: I learned the hard way he was right|pg|| nt|ahollan1: has anyone talked about meaning of 2N bidder RDBL???|pg|| nt|ritong: is it really vital?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: seems it should say i have no preference|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: then they can play 3@CX instead :)|pg|| nt|JaapFr: and about 3@C bid as N?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| nt|JaapFr: direct over first X|pg|| nt|granguru: I would suggest p you choose a red suit ...this is vugraph and I dont like to play for a number|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Jaap i think immediate 3@C should be hand that doesn't want to hear 2N bidder show 6-card suit|pg|| nt|granguru: in front of 4079 people|pg|| nt|kareno: I play a convention with a favorite partner. If we are about to have a disaster, we try to get partner to play the hand.|pg|| nt|ritong: and go to the bar for the round of drinks|pg|| nt|serhat: not so good for Monaco|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SJ6H76542DA9754C7,SKT75HAJDKQ862C62,SA83HT3DJ3CAJT953,SQ942HKQ98DTCKQ84|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: bad breaks in 4S|pg|| nt|cuan: clubs ruff and 3 aces for the defense|pg|| nt|nilsland: not even a heart lead helps because N can ruff the 3rd round (if decl plays on that)|pg|| nt|cuan: and if the declarer try to discard on @H, without clubs lead, @H ruff|pg|| nt|nilsland: trumf lead is only chance|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|s6|pc|c6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1S83HAJ85DJ8632CQ4,ST4HK632DAQ9CJ965,S9652HT4DT754CK32,SAKQJ7HQ97DKCAT87|sv|b|nt|kareno: The late, great Edgar Kaplan would have said that south committed an unusual notrump|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru: hahhaa|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|JaapFr: anyway one thing is sure: Italians do win this final:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ritong: what are you talking about, frijling|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = nat or any strong hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: I don't think that is established. Aren't there a few boards yet to play?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Lauria variation of Gazzilli|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|ritong: you mean they probably win this segment, i m sure|pg|| nt|JaapFr: Monaco mostly Italians too|pg|| nt|ritong: ah ok|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm being fed the continuations|pg|| mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: They are residents of Monaco, though - are they changing citizenship too?|pg|| nt|JaapFr: I did NOT write : Italy wins but Italians win (thought that could not be misundestood:(|pg|| pc|hT|nt|tokay1975: this is specialversion of gazilli 2sp 18+ with 3 or more h. 3dia 5341 or 5314 or 3nt 5314 with 18+|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@D = 53(41)|pg|| nt|kareno: I hear conflicting answers.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|JaapFr: tx for kib comment : Monaco team 2 italian 2 norwegians and 2 poles so 1/3 italian only|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, enjoy the match, all. It is actually past my bed time!!|pg|| nt|ritong: 2 poles?|pg|| nt|ritong: well, ok|pg|| nt|kareno: North and South?|pg|| pc|d2|nt|JosJ: lol|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|nt|ritong: i m gonna call my friend franck multonski|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1S83HAJ85DJ8632CQ4,ST4HK632DAQ9CJ965,S9652HT4DT754CK32,SAKQJ7HQ97DKCAT87|sv|b|nt|cuan: normal contract, normal play, normal down|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|nemeo: on board 21 bidding in progress in open room after 2@d opening by Fantoni and relay response|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|cuan: in the previous board, 3NT was makeable. but 4@S the normal contract|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|cuan: when fantunes don't bid 6@S, new big gain for italy is coming|pg|| nt|cuan: @S10 is a big card|pg|| nt|nemeo: specs asking about e-w sequence here, 2NT might be not natural as several pairs not playing Gazzilli use 2NT rebid to show different storng hands, but just a guess|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|nilsland: without @S10 we would see another line of play|pg|| nt|nilsland: a good guess imo|pg|| nt|nemeo: in which case also 3@d rebid should be exactly coded, maybe showing 4+ hearts|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|cuan: 12 tricks|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAQT864H3DK2CT653,SKHKJT8742D9CAK84,SJ93H96DQ8643C972,S752HAQ5DAJT75CQJ|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|JaapFr: all kind of nationalities do fill my sceen blue about Moaco team (most different)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = FG a) nat b) BAL [including 3/4-fit]|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|ritong: very simple helgemo helness norway fantoni nunes italy multon france zimmermann switzerland|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|JaapFr: tx|pg|| mb|p|pc|s3|nt|ritong: not taking into account monaco passports|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAQT864H3DK2CT653,SKHKJT8742D9CAK84,SJ93H96DQ8643C972,S752HAQ5DAJT75CQJ|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|nilsland: another slam coming up|pg|| mb|p|nt|cuan: 1@H can be 4 cards|pg|| nt|nilsland: but less likely to create a difference|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|nilsland: Helness but find some cuebid, and 4@D may be treated as natural. 4@C also bu the way. Lets see|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| mc|12|nt|nilsland: No problem for Helness he had 2A and the Q whatever.|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SQ94HA976DA7CKJ83,SJ82HT4DJT8643C65,SKT53HQJ52DQ9CAQ9,SA76HK83DK52CT742|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: jump to 4@H there was baffling|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N 12-14, includes some atypical shapes|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s2|pc|d9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: i'm about to misguess @S -- please wait|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: drat -- he got them right|pg|| nt|ahollan1: how did he do that????|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SQ94HA976DA7CKJ83,SJ82HT4DJT8643C65,SKT53HQJ52DQ9CAQ9,SA76HK83DK52CT742|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|nilsland: Maybe they play 4@C as just a slam try in @C, I dont know|pg|| mb|p|nt|nilsland: in @H*|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|cuan: 1@C is 14-17 at this vul, if balanced. 2@C = natural or balanced GF|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: board 21 another penalty for Monaco for bidding on 55 with no values|pg|| mb|p|nt|nemeo: another swing for Italy on board 22 where L-V didn't bid the close spade game and caught south in 3@dx for -500|pg|| nt|cuan: other is natural|pg|| nt|nilsland: yes 22 I meant|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|cuan: now @HJ|pg|| nt|nilsland: from norwegian sources I learn that 4@C was showing @H support and better cards then ¤@H|pg|| nt|nilsland: 4@H*|pg|| pc|h2|nt|cuan: for all the trumps tricks|pg|| pc|h8|nt|nemeo: norwegian sources are greatly appreciated here .... :)|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|cT|pg|| nt|nilsland: now just a question of overtrick|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SJ843HT5DT93CT754,SQ52H973DQJ42CAJ2,SK6HAKQJ64DAK87C9,SAT97H82D65CKQ863|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: i must have missed @S discard by west|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = forcing 14+ hcp or 11+ @H & @S|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ritong: 1@s forced|pg|| nt|ritong: but sweating|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 4+@S, 0-9 hcp|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: fantunes version of Gazzilli|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: Gazzilli is a 2@C rebid that shows EITHER a) @C b) any strong hand|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|nt|ritong: so down 2|pg|| nt|Tez: 1|pg|| pc|c6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|serhat: -1|pg|| nt|ritong: right, one off|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|hT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|ritong: 6 imps more|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| mc|9|nt|serhat: good line unlucky|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SJ843HT5DT93CT754,SQ52H973DQJ42CAJ2,SK6HAKQJ64DAK87C9,SAT97H82D65CKQ863|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|nilsland: Fantunes will not stop in 1@H since that opening is forcing in their system|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|hK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|nilsland: even 3@H may fail with a club or a trump lead|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S9842HK6DAJ2CQT96,SK65H92DQ954CK852,SAQTHAJT73DKT83C4,SJ73HQ854D76CAJ73|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: see previous explanation of 1@H|pg|| nt|granguru: 1@H=14+ or 11+ if @S-@h hand|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: new convention card says 3rd/4th 1@H = (12)13+ and 2/1 by passed hand = invitational|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 4+@D [2@D would be @H & @S]|pg|| nt|serhat: @D lead will make the board flat.. |pg|| nt|ritong: versace probably asking a lot of details|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|JaapFr: 3nt|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|nt|JaapFr: to make ot must find both red ladies|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ritong: ?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hT|nt|granguru: we are very happy to see Benito Garozzo watching here. 13 times world champion...|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|c6|nt|serhat: The master!:)|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S9842HK6DAJ2CQT96,SK65H92DQ954CK852,SAQTHAJT73DKT83C4,SJ73HQ854D76CAJ73|sv|o|nt|nilsland: Lauria-Versace missed the slam on 24, which is surprising but good for the match :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|nilsland: South will bid 2N and hope for 3N?|pg|| nt|nemeo: the 3 card support is systemic for B-M|pg|| nt|cuan: often BM play the moysian fit|pg|| nt|nemeo: south is able to relay 2NT and discover|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|cuan: 2@S is 3 or 4 cards support, minimum|pg|| mb|p|nt|nemeo: 2nt-3@d = 3541|pg|| nt|nilsland: now 3N looks good but he may also introduce Kx of @H|pg|| nt|cuan: bocchi can have 12 hcp|pg|| nt|nilsland: The risk of sending a message that clubs are weaker|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: As Bob Hamman says, when 3N is one of your alternative choices - bid it|pg|| nt|cuan: all the ways for making|pg|| nt|cuan: yes nilsland, one of the "Hamman rule"|pg|| pc|d4|nt|nilsland: Yes - even you and I could make 3N here :)|pg|| nt|nemeo: on 26 Fantoni-Nunes reached 4@h and got @c lead|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|nilsland: that looks like -2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|nilsland: now decl could make even with the @CJ offside|pg|| nt|nilsland: but Helness does not know that|pg|| nt|nilsland: he will play the @CJ...|pg|| nt|cuan: fantunes don't stopped on board 26, so 6 imps to Italy|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|c2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|s8|nt|nemeo: he saw @hKx in south and expects clubs soundly stopped|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|nilsland: true - he gave it up :)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| nt|cuan: he goes for @D finesse|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dK|mc|10|nt|nilsland: and now 11 tricks? :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SAQ3HQJDJT752CJT4,SK8HAKT843D64CK86,ST972H9DAKQ9CAQ53,SJ654H7652D83C972|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: came sooooo close this year in the European|pg|| nt|granguru: GArozzo's nick is sillafu|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|3H|nt|granguru: you might see him in Jec's games today he was playing with Dano de Falco another World champion, I think|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: there is a hand in August Bridge World Master Solvers' Club that talks about preempting with 4432 0-count|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but that hand was vul|pg|| nt|serhat: The Chief!!:)|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ritong: fantoni probably thought " i m not in love with 4@h but what can i do?"|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|JaapFr: 5@D ""walks home""|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|nt|granguru: the other living player of the blue team Pietro Forquet should be also here soon|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SAQ3HQJDJT752CJT4,SK8HAKT843D64CK86,ST972H9DAKQ9CAQ53,SJ654H7652D83C972|sv|n|nt|nilsland: maybe E unblocked @CA..|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|nilsland: EW is pushing NS to 5@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|cuan: good 4@D by Madala|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|nilsland: when you have a natural bid, dont try something fancy...|pg|| nt|cuan: 11 tricks, discarding a spades on the clubs|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| mc|11|nt|nilsland: club Q and 10 now|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SQ86HK753DAJ53CK6,S532HQT6DKQ6CJ532,SAK974H942D984CQ4,SJTHAJ8DT72CAT987|sv|b|nt|granguru: Petraccio |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: earlier in the week i told specs if you can find a copy of Forquet's "Bridge With the Blue Team" READ IT [multiple times]|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|granguru: petraccio is Forquet's |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N 12-14|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: pietraccio|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|ritong: rather logical, for a guy named pietro|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|granguru: I am corrected Pietro's nick is Pietraccio |pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|nt|serhat: Yes an other great player|pg|| pc|sA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Italy 45-13 for the set|pg|| nt|JaapFr: 2 imps gain|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| nt|JaapFr: irrelevant +1 or +2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|h9|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SQ86HK753DAJ53CK6,S532HQT6DKQ6CJ532,SAK974H942D984CQ4,SJTHAJ8DT72CAT987|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|nilsland: if clubs were not 33 West may be endplayed|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|nt|cuan: 7 tricks, probably, in NT with clubs lead. One more in 2@S|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4S43H9732DKQ76C982,S98762HQJ6DT8CAJ3,SQTHKT85D542CKT54,SAKJ5HA4DAJ93CQ76|sv|o|mb|2D!|nt|serhat: The player of the hand called; 'the devil strike'|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|ahollan1: 2@D - 18-19 BAL, not 5@H/@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = a) 4+@S, maybe weak w/5+@C b) strong, 1-suit @C/@D/@S, slam interest|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N = 4@S|pg|| nt|tokay1975: 2nt=4sp 3h_rtrnsf 3nt =5332 |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@H = PUP 3@S a) weak b) strong , maybe 1-suit, slam interest|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Duboin-Sementa also play this modified Mexican 2@D [part of George Rosenkranz' Romex system]|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i believe Bocchi-Duboin use 2@C|pg|| nt|ritong: lauria did not cue at any point either the system lets him know slam is excluded or he does not want to tell too much to opps|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|serhat: so far Italy is carrying on their fit performance|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: did i type Bocchi-Duboin again??? Bocchi-Madala|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4S43H9732DKQ76C982,S98762HQJ6DT8CAJ3,SQTHKT85D542CKT54,SAKJ5HA4DAJ93CQ76|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|cuan: obviously Madala don't try @H to king|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|nilsland: only a club lead makes slam possible|pg|| nt|cuan: HH play 4@S very strong|pg|| nt|nilsland: and then DD...|pg|| nt|cuan: @D2 is 3th and 5th lead|pg|| nt|nemeo: no chance in open room, spade contract will be played by east because of their system...|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|nilsland: still the @DK lead may give 12 tricks :)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| mc|11|nt|nilsland: but only a misunderstanding in the bidding will lead to slam|pg|| pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SJ4HA9864DT54CT96,SA732HJT7DKQ63C72,SQT986HD982CKQJ53,SK5HKQ532DAJ7CA84|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|JaapFr: score this set 16-45 so far but in BAM only 5-5|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 9-12 5+@C usually unbal but in 3rd seat rules are more lax|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: EW play "Reverse Lebensohl" so 2N = good hands|pg|| pc|cT|nt|serhat: I think 2nt was relay here.. nice hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: voice commentary talking about reversing any convention|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: my first tournament against Steve Robinson - Peter Boyd [long long ago] Steve had an index card that announced:|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: Reverse Facial Expressions|pg|| nt|ritong: lol|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: then underneath :) = discouraging|pg|| pc|c7|nt|serhat: small?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|cK|pc|h3|mc|10|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SJ4HA9864DT54CT96,SA732HJT7DKQ63C72,SQT986HD982CKQJ53,SK5HKQ532DAJ7CA84|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|nilsland: again close to 12 tricks - but hearts are 5-0 and you have a club loser|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|nilsland: 4@H is however safe|pg|| nt|cuan: 1@S is a tipic 3th position opening. |pg|| nt|cuan: also not favourable vulnerability, with that black 5-5 |pg|| nt|nilsland: sometimes - when you have a void - it is better to give the opponents more room to bid perhaps too high|pg|| nt|nilsland: but other times you make 4S or 5C|pg|| nt|cuan: probably fantoni's opening will be 2@S|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|sT|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d3|nt|nilsland: even 3N will make|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SA7H3DAK976CAKJ42,SKQ432HAT764DCT95,SJT65HJ2DQ542CQ83,S98HKQ985DJT83C76|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the set :(|pg|| nt|serhat: last board of thesion 2.. ty all watching. well done operater. great job..|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 16 more boards today start in about 60 minutes|pg|| nt|serhat: the sesion|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 48 boards tomorrow|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N non-forcing|pg|| nt|serhat: 5H is a good save|pg|| nt|ritong: 1@s neither|pg|| nt|tokay1975: Ýtaly showed us a great technical bridge this bermuda. even they lose or win my idea will not change:)|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4N!|mb|p|nt|ritong: ominous|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: how much better does west hand need to be for 4@H-DBL?|pg|| nt|serhat: infact 6D has no chance! |pg|| nt|ahollan1: assuming that should show @H|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: note: Lauria's 1N denied a hand that is invite w/ 6@H|pg|| pc|s9|nt|ahollan1: yes: the other option for DBL = lead direct [so not necessarily length]|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|nt|serhat: flat.. 54 imps different .. it is huge for a team like Italy.. But this is bridge.. things can change in 4 boards! (not that I am guessing but it is possible)|pg|| pc|dK|mc|11|nt|serhat: difference|pg|| nt|ritong: merci a tous 1 hour for the last segment of the day|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SA7H3DAK976CAKJ42,SKQ432HAT764DCT95,SJT65HJ2DQ542CQ83,S98HKQ985DJT83C76|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2N|nt|nilsland: last hand coming up - Italy had won the set by better bidding|pg|| nt|cuan: nice hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|nilsland: Madalas 2N is stronger than Fantunes Jx xxxxx Axxxx x :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|diana_eva: webcam here - traian sneaked in at put it on a wall lol http://new.livestream.com/accounts/5339416/WBTC-Bali|pg|| mb|p|nt|cuan: 3NT not the best here|pg|| nt|nilsland: EW had no chance finding the heart fit - but that may be for their best if S passes|pg|| nt|nilsland: I am a little surprised that Bocchi bid 3N even if he has a spade stopper|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|nilsland: he also has very good minor|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|nemeo: both 3@h and 3@s were available to show strong hand without bypassing 3NT, so i wonder if they are in control or not|pg|| nt|cuan: well bid by the italians|pg|| pc|hK|nt|nemeo: it seems they were :)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|nt|nilsland: close to 6 also here - but impossible to avoid a spade loswe|pg|| nt|nilsland: loser*|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|cuan: normal double finesse in diamonds for making|pg|| nt|tokay1975: i thk 3nt is not nat . ( a little slam try with extras ) they do notplay 3nt after showing 55 65minors |pg|| pc|h8|pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|nilsland: ok - that explains it|pg|| mc|11|nt|nilsland: for me I would bid 4@C|pg|| nt|cuan: @D to queen revealed 4-0 break|pg|| nt|cuan: bye all. see you later|pg|| nt|tokay1975: with stiff h norby never bid 3nt to play its impossible when his pd shows 10 cards n minors|pg|| nt|nilsland: of course you are right Musti :)|pg|| nt|nemeo: bye all, ciao :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: 3N shows extra values without keycard but real support|pg|| nt|nilsland: we are lucky to have many italians and norwegians in the audience :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: when is the start of next?|pg|| nt|nilsland: in about 1 hour|pg|| nt|nilsland: wc back|pg|| pg||