vg|41st WBTC-BBO3-BB,RR8,I,17,32,CANADA,0,ITALY,0| rs|3SE-1,3NN=,4HN-1,3NS+2,5DNx-2,5DNx-2,3HW=,3NS-2,2HE=,2HE-1,5DE-1,3HS+1,3NN-1,3NN-1,1NN+1,2HN+1,5SN-1,4SS+1,4SE+2,4SE=,6CW=,3NW+2,4SS=,4SS+2,2SS-1,3SN-1,3NS=,3NS+1,2NE-2,2SS+1,3NW-1,3NW-2| pn|THURSTON,DUBOIN,SMITH,SEMENTA,MADALA,N GARTAGAN,BOCCHI,GARTAGANIS|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SA3HAKQJT42DQ76C3,ST94H97DA853CAKQ8,SQJ82H53DT92CJT97,SK765H86DKJ4C6542|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|gracelin: This is RR8 of the qua;ifying between two very strong teams. Italy is 2nd at moment and Canada 6th|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|gracelin: Smith-Thurston play what they called Swidish Club, 1C opening has many meanings|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: Duboin-Sementa play a 5542 natural system, but of course, with lot of relays and gadgets|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|gracelin: Sementa's 3S is brave and put a lot of confidence on facing 4-card support|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| nt|gracelin: However, as 3H is surely making, going down a couple non-Vul. tricks seems ok|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| pc|d6|nt|sunsamvar: cards badly placed for Sementa means Canada 3@H shd make |pg|| nt|gracelin: Hi Kit|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|sunsamvar: hi Kit|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|gracelin: Smith failed to cover may hurt|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|brgpro: hi guys|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: maybe smith shd have covered the @S10 with the qj8x|pg|| nt|gracelin: Hi Jack, how are you ?|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: hi Jack|pg|| mc|8|nt|brgpro: i am fine thanks. this is a bit late for me, living in the east coast of US|pg|| nt|key1809: hi all|pg|| nt|gracelin: so the 3S bid may actually win Italy about 3 imps?|pg|| nt|bebechira: it is world championship time now....sleep is not allowed|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: wlc Keysad one of India's young stars|pg|| nt|key1809: yes , 3@h is cold for 9 tricks|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SA3HAKQJT42DQ76C3,ST94H97DA853CAKQ8,SQJ82H53DT92CJT97,SK765H86DKJ4C6542|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: good morning all|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|fabsayc: one of ew is nick, not judith|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: nick is west, judith east|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 2nt spade stopper i think|pg|| nt|fabsayc: if south where interested in minors, would have doubled 1@S|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: please not fourth best|pg|| pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: a negative lead double of 3@S would have helped|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4ST98HAT87D73CQT62,SQ62HK95D9542C974,SKJ4HJ632DAKQJCAJ,SA753HQ4DT86CK853|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|key1809: hi Sunil|pg|| nt|gracelin: Hi Keyzad|pg|| nt|key1809: sry previouly 3@h has serious issues|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|brgpro: so, u r not going to bali this time Patrick?|pg|| nt|key1809: hi Patrick, Kit|pg|| nt|kit: hi|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|kit: 3NT probably best, but Stayman will get them to 4@H|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gracelin: the 2C opening s 19-20 bal. or 1 suit GF hand|pg|| pc|d6|nt|key1809: declarer will have to some guessing here|pg|| nt|kit: Key is how to play the heart suit -- low to 10 is winner this time.|pg|| pc|d3|nt|gracelin: the 2NT rebid clarified a 19-20 bal. hand|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: good point Key... no entry into dummy on bd 17... and so only 8 tricks if defence persists with @Cs|pg|| nt|kit: East did well with passive diamond lead -- usually best when into 2NT opener.|pg|| nt|brgpro: i am not sure....the percentage play might be @hJ, then play a @h to the 7|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: low to @H10 is % play i thk|pg|| nt|key1809: declarer even though has a routine @S guess, but has a losing option as he can pitch one of his @s;s on @d's|pg|| nt|kit: So, what is the percentage play here, holding all the spots and taking posible 4-1 splits into account?|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: kq or 9 singleton with E is probable|pg|| nt|kit: I think percentge play is to lead the jack -- not successful this time|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|nt|kit: Nor was this successful|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|gracelin: low to 10 preserve oppotunity for a later endplay against East for a club return into AJ|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Duboin forces with a @S guess now|pg|| nt|brgpro: leading the @hJ wins when @h9 is onside with a @h honor, and also works when it is exactly K9 or Q9 offside|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| nt|kit: Actually I would have expected declarer to go up king of spades now that he knows he has 2 heart losers,|pg|| nt|kit: since if that wins, he can pitch the other spades on the diamonds.|pg|| mc|9|nt|brgpro: small to the 7 loses when K9 or Q9 offside|pg|| nt|kit: Leading jack also works on a lot of the 4-1 splits when East has 4|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: perfect Kit|pg|| nt|key1809: yes that was his only legitmate way to make the hand, small wd never gain|pg|| nt|gracelin: As the play went, low to 10 will succeed even if East has Q9x. He would be endplayed in the end into leading a club|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4ST98HAT87D73CQT62,SQ62HK95D9542C974,SKJ4HJ632DAKQJCAJ,SA753HQ4DT86CK853|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|iverson200: Hi all, the running score is here http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/bali.13/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=980|pg|| nt|cak1: an instant psyche:)|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|cak1: turns out 3N easier than 4@h, which need to guess the heart position correctly|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|iverson200: Hi Zhou, exactly|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| nt|cak1: but declarer doesn't the psyche|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| nt|cak1: ducking gives him some problem|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the psyche is a very bad reaction to board 1|pg|| nt|iverson200: declarer does not have some problems now as he is almost sure W has @h KQ|pg|| nt|iverson200: does have*|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| nt|iverson200: if W started with @S A @H KQ and @C K he can't play @h now|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c8|nt|cak1: he is running diamonds to get more information|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d9|pg|| nt|cak1: east did well by not doubling the final contract, certainly aware of partner's style in this vulnerability|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|s6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S8HQJ974DA53C9732,SAJ7652HA3DJ4CK65,SKQ93H52DKQ9862C8,ST4HKT86DT7CAQJT4|sv|e|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: i am not sure of Hj tho|pg|| mb|1S|mb|3D|mb|d|nt|sunsamvar: i thk low to @H10 is best|pg|| nt|kit: I'm not sure either, but that's my gut feeling|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brgpro: -300 against nothing...|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: phantom sacrifice i fear|pg|| pc|d7|nt|kit: key is that with Q9x or K9x it won't be so obvious to cover the jack.|pg|| nt|gracelin: the 5D jump seems premature, He can stop H himself and opponents might not have very good fit in S either.|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|kit: I would agree with 5@D call if not passed hand, but as passed hand should take it easy as partner's 3@D bid has wider range.|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: playing for @Hs 3-3 instead of @S ruffs... hmmm|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: -500 likely|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|nt|key1809: deacler can get 7 @d's and a @s, for -3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cA|nt|sunsamvar: cud have taken @Da in dummy on trick 1 and played @S up... with @Sa likely with Duboin|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|brgpro: so he will claim -2 shortly|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d2|pg|| nt|key1809: -2 it will be|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S8HQJ974DA53C9732,SAJ7652HA3DJ4CK65,SKQ93H52DKQ9862C8,ST4HKT86DT7CAQJT4|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|iverson200: another 13imps to Italy, the psyche did not work out as W intended|pg|| mb|3D|mb|d|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/bali.13/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=980 running scores|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|d2|pg|| nt|iverson200: EW plays a strong club system so his 1@s is limited to 15 HCP|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|d3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| mc|9|nt|iverson200: and they play variable NTs (11-13 in first 2 positions, 14-16 in 3/4th)|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SQJHK9DAT32CAK862,SAKT5HQJ752DQ876C,S9764H843DKJ9CJ93,S832HAT6D54CQT754|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|key1809: South has the best hand , but not the right shape to act|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|kit: difficult for South as he could be being stolen blind, but I think pass is prudent|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Why West is trying for game, however, I don't know.|pg|| nt|key1809: he likes his @c void :)|pg|| nt|gracelin: I will bid 2NT if that is for the minors|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: south had to be brave to bid vul|pg|| nt|kit: But he probably turned a plus score into a minus score.|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: but Patrick only 54 and 6 points in majors useless|pg|| nt|brgpro: S's major points look bad|pg|| pc|s7|nt|key1809: board 18 it seems, west psyched 1@h in the other room , opp happily played in 3nt , for a 13 imp pick up|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: trump lead may have beaten this|pg|| pc|s2|nt|gracelin: yes, but if your partner has the same hand and not bid you are missing a slam. :)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|kit: There is still time for trump shift|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|h9|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kit: Now it may be too late|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h2|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|h6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|h5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|cJ|pc|hT|pc|dA|pg|| nt|brgpro: he will ruff a D!|pg|| nt|brgpro: then a @c ruff with Q|pg|| nt|brgpro: works when S has the K|pg|| nt|gracelin: Duboin is thnking of cashing HA first|pg|| nt|brgpro: but if @hK doesnt drop he cant make it any more|pg|| nt|kit: He is worried about making 3|pg|| nt|key1809: he will try ruffing a @c high, cashing @h ace gains only when K drops|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|hJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|cQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: ruff @C with @Hq works here|pg|| nt|gracelin: Yes, Duboin chose the best line for 9 tricks, as expected|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SQJHK9DAT32CAK862,SAKT5HQJ752DQ876C,S9764H843DKJ9CJ93,S832HAT6D54CQT754|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|r|nt|fabsayc: i think others will bid 2nt with south hand|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|iverson200: although there was no game in previous board, the favorable vulnerability suggested maximum bidding pressure, resulted in a push in 5@d X-2|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|fabsayc: double dummy this has a chance|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: not any more|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c5|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|nt|iverson200: double and rebid 2NT is quite aggressive with his hand, I believe that is partly due to the precision system of EW, 1@h 2@h may not have the required HCP|pg|| pc|cK|pc|sT|pg|| mc|7|nt|cak1: declarer cashed out for down 2, so 8 imps to Canada|pg|| nt|cak1: oops sorry|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i will take 8 but only 2|pg|| nt|iverson200: 2 imps as Intaly makes 3@h in the other room, so not a big loss|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S984H9832DQ62CQ86,SKT75HTD974CT9732,SAJ32HK65DK8CAKJ5,SQ6HAQJ74DAJT53C4|sv|n|mb|2C|nt|key1809: maybe thats he made a game try|pg|| mb|2H|nt|key1809: why|pg|| nt|gracelin: again, this is 19-20 balanced or a one suit GF hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: can u explain N/S system a bit more Patrick pls ?|pg|| mb|p|pc|s9|nt|gracelin: They call it Swidish Clubs. it's major suit oriented, many 4-card M openings in 3rd seat|pg|| pc|sT|nt|Psyck: You can see players CC by clicking on their profiles|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| nt|gracelin: Als a versatile 1C opening, including real clubs, balanced 12-14, Balanced 17-18m etc.|pg|| nt|kit: North thinks his partner has the doubleton spade.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| nt|kit: But when declarer wins queen, he may change his mind.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| nt|key1809: this cant be right|pg|| nt|kit: surely he pitched a club|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: BAD @s PLAY BY sMITH... HE SEEMS TO BE OFF COLOUR|pg|| nt|gracelin: according to their CC, they lead 3/5th against suit contract|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Sry for caps|pg|| nt|key1809: or has he really played a @s|pg|| nt|gracelin: Smith is so sure that pd has a doubleton spade by leading the S9|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: As usual Duboin and Sementa have been immaculate as we can expect|pg|| nt|key1809: they will sort it out after this match im sure|pg|| nt|key1809: :)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|dJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|nt|gracelin: Sementa cleverly pitched D to attract a D shift by south|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| mc|8|nt|gracelin: If he pitched his club loser, he cannot take a 2nd D trick under club force|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S984H9832DQ62CQ86,SKT75HTD974CT9732,SAJ32HK65DK8CAKJ5,SQ6HAQJ74DAJT53C4|sv|n|mb|2C!|mb|2H|nt|cak1: 2c=18-19 bal|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: slightly unfavorable shape for reopening the bidding|pg|| mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c9|nt|fabsayc: tough to make 2 after this lead|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|iverson200: so 2@h buys the contract, a forcing def would put declarer in a tough spot|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|iverson200: @d switch made declarer's life a bit easier, time to revert back to forcing defence|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h4|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|cT|pc|h6|pg|| mc|7|nt|iverson200: 2@h -1 is a normal result, which gains Italy another 4 imps|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SQ43HA8632D9CAQT8,SAT9875HT74DK75CK,SJ6HKQJ9DJ62CJ432,SK2H5DAQT843C9765|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|sunsamvar: 4@h will put pressure|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|key1809: he will use his methods to show mixed raise|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: from Smiths perspective slam cud be on|pg|| nt|brgpro: it looks EW only has 3 losers in @s contract but he cant take 10 before defence take 4|pg|| mb|3H|nt|key1809: 2@H allows 3@d, and now e-w can find 4@s or 5@d|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: exchange the @Ca and K and 6@S cold|pg|| mb|4D|mb|4H|nt|brgpro: 5@d cant make as long as NS play @c in time|pg|| nt|key1809: 5@d will have problenms if defense punch in @c's|pg|| nt|brgpro: also 4@s, 2 rounds of @h will force dummy, |pg|| nt|kit: 4@S may be difficult to defeat|pg|| mb|5D|nt|brgpro: declarer cant avoid losing 2@h 1@s and 1@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|kit: 5@D also may be difficult to defeat|pg|| pc|h4|nt|gracelin: Guess it's tough for south to find CA and C contnuation here|pg|| nt|brgpro: after @hA lead, S has to play @cA and @c which is more difficult|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: @c force is the only way to prevent @S set up|pg|| nt|kit: does that beat it? Can't declarer then score all his trumps?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| nt|brgpro: S has the @d9|pg|| nt|key1809: South is looking at qxx in spades, shd know that that if declarer has stiff spade, its breaking 3-3 for him, and if he has K, still good for declarer, hence removing the possible ...|pg|| nt|key1809: @d entry shd be the solution|pg|| pc|c8|nt|kit: so? he gets 3 ruffs small in his hand|pg|| nt|gracelin: Guess declarer can make even on club force, as Kit said, to score all his trumps|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: 1 punch and then trumps... if the @Ha was not vacated ofcourse|pg|| nt|brgpro: yes|pg|| nt|key1809: yep, all roads lead to rome it seems|pg|| nt|kit: yes -- but not after heart lead|pg|| nt|psridhar: kit woolsey also with him|pg|| nt|psridhar: sry private|pg|| nt|brgpro: but still, trumps could be 2-2 and N has 3rd @s|pg|| nt|key1809: welcome Sridhar|pg|| nt|kit: but declarer might play for 2-2 diamonds instead, and go down.|pg|| nt|brgpro: in that case he will go down when S has @dJx|pg|| nt|gracelin: defender may not play this wa if trumps ae 2-2|pg|| nt|brgpro: it is a guessing work|pg|| nt|kit: depends on who has thrid spade|pg|| nt|brgpro: but from the auction, it looks like S has 6@h and N 3|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: looks more probable that @H are 6-3 from the bidding and so North likely to be longer in @Ss|pg|| pc|h7|nt|key1809: samanta will work this out, ruffing out is percentage, he wins if North has the @d J, or he has the 2 spades|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|dK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|s7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|brgpro: he is down|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s8|nt|kit: he did it in wrong order|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| mc|10|nt|brgpro: playing for trumps 2-2|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SQ43HA8632D9CAQT8,SAT9875HT74DK75CK,SJ6HKQJ9DJ62CJ432,SK2H5DAQT843C9765|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: 2NT should be some sort of 4card major raise|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d3|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| nt|iverson200: 5@d is actually a good game by EW |pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| nt|fabsayc: not really, needs diamonds 2-2 and spades 3-2|pg|| mc|10|nt|chaturs: hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1S83H2DAKQT98CQJ83,S752HAT74D754C764,SKQJHK963D62CKT92,SAT964HQJ85DJ3CA5|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|brgpro: in any case he had to ruff a @s to shorten his trumps|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2D|nt|kit: he would have made if trumps 2-2 or stiff jack, so hard to say which play is percentage|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brgpro: E has to lead a @h to beat this|pg|| nt|gracelin: H lead beat this but guess East will lead a spade|pg|| nt|key1809: 12-facing 12, 3 Aces to lose 5@c/@d, |pg|| pc|hQ|nt|kit: yes, which is possible I think|pg|| pc|h2|nt|key1809: 3nt will make on a @s lead|pg|| nt|brgpro: wow|pg|| nt|brgpro: Sementa found it!|pg|| nt|key1809: brilliant|pg|| nt|brgpro: but still , W must not take @hA and switch to a @s...|pg|| nt|kit: Really logical, as all heart needs to succeed is king or ace of hearts in partner's hand. Spade lead needs more, and partner can't have much.|pg|| nt|gracelin: Good lead, maybe he knew pd has about 3-4 pts so only an honor in H will work, presuming declarer has dbl stopper in S|pg|| nt|key1809: not so easy, pd cd easily have the @s Q|pg|| nt|kit: queen of spades not enough|pg|| nt|gracelin: but then no entry to lead a spade through when declarer has KJx|pg|| nt|key1809: but logically with only 1 stopper north wdnt have jumped to 3nt|pg|| pc|h4|nt|brgpro: ok, he worked it out|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|c9|pc|s6|pg|| nt|gracelin: Wih both black Aces, East is under no pressure.|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c4|nt|gracelin: Not the same if one his black honor is an K|pg|| nt|key1809: thats we call easy pitches|pg|| nt|kit: right -- which is why the heart lead is attractive|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: sry guys... a tel call i had to take... didnt miss much from the imp score|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d8|nt|kit: Idea in notrump play and defense is to knock out enemy aces and kings to set up your queens and jacks, not the opposite|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|kit: and the heart lead is a good demonstration of that theme.|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1S83H2DAKQT98CQJ83,S752HAT74D754C764,SKQJHK963D62CKT92,SAT964HQJ85DJ3CA5|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|iverson200: yes after the @c forcing def, but with a @h lead, the chance of 5@d is definitely worth the bid|pg|| nt|iverson200: but with 2NT bid, EW could not find their fit, so 3@h buys the contract|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: needs a heart lead to beat this|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|iverson200: yes Martin|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: i am giving EW hints :)|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s3|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|d8|pg|| nt|fabsayc: in a sense lead is logical, needs the least from partner|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pg|| mc|8|nt|iverson200: :) |pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SKJTHK5DT874CQ865,S865HT73D965CKT74,SA92HQ9862DA2CAJ2,SQ743HAJ4DKQJ3C93|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: 3 nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|brgpro: seems NS are playing 14-16NT|pg|| nt|gracelin: 1NT opening is 14-16 |pg|| nt|kit: if he finds a low diamond lead, then I'll be really impressed|pg|| nt|brgpro: that explains the Pass|pg|| nt|gracelin: But Meckwell would not pass this south hand even facing 14-16 1NT|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: but he has the @H entries and the @D block may not matter|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: he= Semanta|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|key1809: actually 3nt is a make ,, he just needs to guess the spades|pg|| pc|d3|nt|sunsamvar: yes @S guess crucial and i guess he will guess wrong|pg|| nt|gracelin: An intial D3 lead maybe more threatening|pg|| nt|key1809: but bfore that he needs to guesss on @d's|pg|| nt|kit: well he is trying now|pg|| nt|kit: and declarer may think he started with KQ9x.|pg|| nt|brgpro: he shd go up the 10|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Smith must try the 10 knowing how clever the Italians can be... after seeing all hands :)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|nt|brgpro: why shd E play a small D from K9x|pg|| pc|c2|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kit: how else to get 3 diamond tricks -- when declarer goes up 10?|pg|| nt|gracelin: declarer knows East has DK from the lead|pg|| nt|gracelin: but has to guess from KQ9x or KQJx|pg|| nt|key1809: what wd he do from KQ9x|pg|| pc|c3|nt|kit: pity contract only 1NT -- would have been more meaningful in 3NT|pg|| pc|c5|nt|sunsamvar: Smith is certainly off colour and the pressure of a couple of early decisions must be adding to it|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|c6|pc|hT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SKJTHK5DT874CQ865,S865HT73D965CKT74,SA92HQ9862DA2CAJ2,SQ743HAJ4DKQJ3C93|sv|o|mb|p|nt|iverson200: Sementa found it too, in a tougher bidding sequence, so another push|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|iverson200: 1NT by Bocchi non-vul vs non-vul is 12-14HCP|pg|| nt|fabsayc: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/bali.13/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/bali.13/microsite/Results.htm, table 2 open room|pg|| pc|dK|nt|iverson200: Madala had chosen a balancing double to show points although he could choose to bid 1NT right after double|pg|| nt|iverson200: so they end up in 2@h|pg|| pc|d4|nt|fabsayc: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/5339416/WBTC-Bali, sorry|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|sT|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s3|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| mc|9|nt|iverson200: kibz point out 1NT after dbl shows @c, that's probably why he had no choice but to pass 1@h X first|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SAT743HJ72DT74CK9,S8H9654DJ98CT5432,SKJ52HKQTDAKQ2CQ7,SQ96HA83D653CAJ86|sv|e|nt|sunsamvar: oops sry i too thought 3nt was the contract :)|pg|| nt|brgpro: another 2@c opening for N!|pg|| nt|brgpro: 3rd so far|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: Smith seems to have plenty of 2@C openers for sure|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|key1809: question of 10 or 11 tricks in 1s's|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|brgpro: yes, shd be coffee time for me|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: beer time here :)|pg|| nt|key1809: seems North is not finished yet|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: Bochi and Madala in the closed room for Italy|pg|| mb|p|nt|key1809: now this will put immense pressure, and the way things have been going, i can bet he will go wrong|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|nt|key1809: Sementa will not cash his @h , just giving an impressiomn that he doesnt hold the @s Q , |pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|kit: Somebody got their wires crossed -- either North didn't have his 4@D bid (which it looks like) or South should have quit.|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: How are the Canadian players, both are Gartaganis... anyone pls|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: trump fin crucial|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|h4|pg|| mc|10|nt|sunsamvar: the fault lay in the bidding and not the play|pg|| nt|kit: Clue might have been ace lead -- perhaps East would have led a "safer" trump with nothing in trumps.|pg|| pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SAT743HJ72DT74CK9,S8H9654DJ98CT5432,SKJ52HKQTDAKQ2CQ7,SQ96HA83D653CAJ86|sv|e|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|iverson200: 2NT=20-22 2@C=18-19 BAL|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this hand shows the problems of 2nt openings, hard to stop at a safe level|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|iverson200: 3@h transfer 4@d super accept, I believe if he super accepts with this, he will super accept with any 4c@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: would 4@H have been retransfer, in which case 4@S was a mild try|pg|| pc|hK|nt|iverson200: and S, probably knowing that pd's super accept range is wide (any 4c @s), he decides to take the low road, which is a wise choice.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| nt|iverson200: 5 level needs to guess the @s suit|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|c4|pg|| nt|iverson200: which he does|pg|| mc|11|nt|iverson200: so far Italian team have displayed excellent judgement in both constructive and competitive biddings|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S64HQT9732DQJ93C5,SQT9HJ54DK864CQ84,SK73H86DT52CAT962,SAJ852HAKDA7CKJ73|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|kit: Last hand shows that what looks like the dullest board you will ever see something can happen.|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gracelin: indeed. Don't understand north's ambition|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: desperation more than ambition P i thk|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|suketbombi: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/bali.13/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|h3|pg|| mc|12|nt|sunsamvar: tx Raju for the result link|pg|| nt|key1809: nothing going right for Smith|pg|| nt|key1809: hello Rajuji|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S64HQT9732DQJ93C5,SQT9HJ54DK864CQ84,SK73H86DT52CAT962,SAJ852HAKDA7CKJ73|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|iverson200: 1@c= 16+|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: lazy 4@S bid|pg|| pc|c5|nt|fabsayc: still slam is down on club ruff|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|iverson200: yes|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|iverson200: this one will be fast|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i only predict slow :)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S753HJ64DJ643C862,SKQ84H532DATCAT43,SJT2HAQ987DQ9C975,SA96HKTDK8752CKQJ|sv|o|mb|p|nt|suketbombi: few asked so published thx too a pleasure:)|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|brgpro: another "easy" 3NT for EW here|pg|| nt|key1809: can we say this a coffee board, Im sure the Italians wd do nothing to prove us wrong hefre|pg|| nt|suketbombi: yes nothing going right for SMITH & I ECO your sentiment|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|suketbombi: For running live scores http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/bali.13/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=980|pg|| nt|key1809: 4@s/5@c/5@d/5nt all make, other than that good luck to them|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|brgpro: 6@c makes it looks|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|brgpro: although it is not a good contract|pg|| nt|key1809: actually it does, didnt give it a thought |pg|| nt|brgpro: what is W thinking about?|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|key1809: well they are not going to let us have the coffee|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: and my beer is going flat :(|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|gracelin: 6C makes with the friendly lie of the cards|pg|| nt|key1809: if italians bid and make this slam , the first things the Canadian pair is gonna ask is" how come when they bid the slam all suits break"|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: Duboin sees East's sequence as showing slam interest with real club fit. If East does has 4-card club, 6C is a fine contract|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: we call it luck but then...|pg|| nt|brgpro: 6@c basically needs @hA on side plus 3-3 @s break and trumps not worse than 4-2, or slight extra chance when @c 3-3 then he can try @d3-3|pg|| nt|kit: It's actually a pretty decent slam given the overcall.|pg|| nt|gracelin: I meant East's 2-step to 3NT sequence|pg|| nt|key1809: its not over yet, Sementa has a losing options in @s's as well |pg|| nt|sunsamvar: the hands fit very well... E has 16 great points on partners opening|pg|| nt|kit: Don't forget possible spade-diamond squeeze|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| nt|kit: I don't think he will go wrong -- due to squeeze position.|pg|| nt|brgpro: but here when @c 3-3, he can try 3-3 @d break first, when N turns out to have 2@d, he might not misguess @s|pg|| nt|gracelin: yes, when trumps are 3-3 declarer can ruff a round of D to excute a show-up squeeze at the end|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: W has Ax in partners suit possible discards on the @Ss and no wasted values in @hS|pg|| nt|kit: It will be show-up squeeze -- if South has 4 diamonds, he will be squeezed.|pg|| pc|s2|nt|brgpro: the Italians are good And lucky!|pg|| nt|key1809: @s 10 wd been better|pg|| nt|gracelin: al discussion academic with the S2 shift|pg|| nt|key1809: yes, north will say, before u can squeeze my partner, i will force you to claim|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer may go up ace of spades, and entries to his hand are at a premium|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|kit: Still tricky entry problem from declarer's point of view.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|cJ|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|key1809: effectively played on @c 's being 3-3, or @s 3-3|pg|| nt|kit: so how does he get back?|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| nt|key1809: whatever he does is gold here|pg|| nt|kit: with clubs 3-3, there is no problem|pg|| mc|12|nt|sunsamvar: Maybe 1 round of trump before @Hk|pg|| nt|brgpro: if @c are not 3-3. he will need @s 3-3 or @SD swueeze|pg|| nt|key1809: very fortunate lie of hards, but luck is always with the brave |pg|| nt|kit: right -- he would have to dump ace of spades on 4th round of clubs|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S753HJ64DJ643C862,SKQ84H532DATCAT43,SJT2HAQ987DQ9C975,SA96HKTDK8752CKQJ|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|iverson200: E gave up the chance of finessing but it is only 1 imp|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|fabsayc: every imp counts in the new scoring system|pg|| nt|iverson200: a routine 3NT, only @h Q lead will mislead declarer|pg|| pc|hK|nt|iverson200: yes you have a point Martin|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|nt|iverson200: undertricks and overtricks have more importance in the new scoring system than before|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|11|nt|iverson200: because the total of 30VP becomes 20VP now|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SAKQJ852HDJT6C987,ST964H983D843CT63,SHKQ754DA72CAJ542,S73HAJT62DKQ95CKQ|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|kit: That was why I thought he might go up ace of spades at trick 2|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: i think more than luck it was great hand vat to 6@Cs|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|key1809: difficult to argue against success|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|gracelin: We will later see if this is the only table to reach 6C on 27|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| nt|gracelin: East now knows declarer must be void in H, or will just give up a H|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SAKQJ852HDJT6C987,ST964H983D843CT63,SHKQ754DA72CAJ542,S73HAJT62DKQ95CKQ|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: 2@s = 5-5@s+m GF or 6+@s inv|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| nt|iverson200: inv+|pg|| nt|iverson200: so 2@s is forcing|pg|| nt|iverson200: 4@s just to play|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|s2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|h5|pc|s7|pg|| nt|iverson200: declarer is thinking whether ruffing finesse is needed, can E do this with @c KQT6 to try to fool the declarer|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|d2|nt|iverson200: but when E covers, everything is good|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|12|nt|iverson200: Italy bid to 6@c on board 27, which is amazing to me|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SKJT64H864D964C74,SQ975HJT3D3CKQ865,SA832HA97DKQ8CA92,SHKQ52DAJT752CJT3|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|key1809: Italy are about 4-5 imps away from getting the full monty|pg|| mb|p|nt|suketbombi: 9 u get it when u lead beyond 60 key|pg|| mb|1N|nt|suketbombi: 9 imps away|pg|| mb|p|nt|key1809: ok|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|key1809: correctly defended even 2@s might go -1|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|gracelin: NS play 14-16 1NT so north's sequence showed 17-18 as they will open 2C with 19-20 bal.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h5|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c4|nt|gracelin: just a bit strenge that they don't play transfer here to make the strong hand declarer|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|nt|sunsamvar: 1672 kibs here watching some quality bridge from the Italians and not so great bridge from Canada|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h8|pc|cK|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SKJT64H864D964C74,SQ975HJT3D3CKQ865,SA832HA97DKQ8CA92,SHKQ52DAJT752CJT3|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|2C!|mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|iverson200: but knowing @h A on side, they bid and made it on board 27|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: everything goes right for Italy in this round|pg|| mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| nt|iverson200: 1NT =15-17 3@s = general super accept|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|s4|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|iverson200: 2@c overcall i believe is 4@h + a minor|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|nt|iverson200: here is 4-6, but it does show 4c@h|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| nt|fabsayc: now must underlead diamonds|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: oh maybe not|pg|| pc|cK|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg|| nt|iverson200: @d J might be good|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SAQ87HAQ65DA4CK82,SKJ5HKJ92DKQ72CQ5,S2H74DJT9853CAJ73,ST9643HT83D6CT964|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|key1809: another 2@c opening, this time from South|pg|| mb|2N|nt|sunsamvar: another 2@C for Canada|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: the 4th 19-20 2C opening this set|pg|| nt|kit: lets see if they can survive this one|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: West really has a hand from Hell to lead from|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: which red suit to lead ?|pg|| nt|kit: why does it have to be a red suit?|pg|| nt|gracelin: declarer has enough enties to set up the long D in dummy, via the finesse of CQ, so seems no problem|pg|| nt|kit: In fact, I would probably lead king or jack of spades|pg|| pc|h2|nt|gracelin: With south known to have 19-20 HCP, north must have enough to raise to 3NT which leaves East a likely 0-1 HCP|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: i would have agreed completely Kit but in this case partner is not likely to have any points...|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: so no point trying to hit his suit i feel|pg|| pc|h4|nt|kit: Well, if really doesn't have anything we aren't beating it|pg|| pc|hT|nt|gracelin: Finding partner with DJ maybe the only hope|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|kit: I would never have led a small heart, though -- if partner has xxxxx, can't afford to block the suit.|pg|| pc|h3|nt|gracelin: Agree with that|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s2|pc|h8|nt|sunsamvar: so @Hk or small @D best huh Kit ?|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|kit: no, like I said I would have led spade honor.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|kit: but if I led a heart it would be king -- might be stiff queen in dummy|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|nt|gracelin: nice play but still 1 imp to Italy|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SAQ87HAQ65DA4CK82,SKJ5HKJ92DKQ72CQ5,S2H74DJT9853CAJ73,ST9643HT83D6CT964|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: nick wont enjoy defending no trump|pg|| nt|iverson200: 2@c again, 18-19 BAL|pg|| nt|iverson200: they have a transfer system after 2@c opening, and various asking bids|pg|| nt|iverson200: Bocchi is proabably thinking how to bid this hand|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: credit Rosenkranz for developing the original structure with a 2@D opening in Romex system|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@S transfer to 2nt|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 3@S i believe is minors|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: or shortness in @s|pg|| nt|iverson200: anyways 3NT is the spot|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade king lead|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|iverson200: and it is no easy picnic, we will see how Madala plays it|pg|| nt|fabsayc: best shot at beating and also unblocks to avoid later endplays|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|iverson200: well now it is easy, W does not have a favorable lead|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s2|nt|iverson200: he is thinking about overtrick now|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SAQT764HQ5DAT8C75,S932H984D654CKQ96,SJ8HKT632DK32CJ32,SK5HAJ7DQJ97CAT84|sv|n|mb|2S|nt|kit: Should East reopen with double or 2NT?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|kit: or pass?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|gracelin: Not necessary the fault of the opening, but Canada did lose 28 imps on the 4 hands they opened the 19-20 2C.|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: I agree with 2NT choice|pg|| nt|key1809: X might be wrong siding the nt, if at all they belong thier|pg|| nt|kit: can still get to 5-3 heart fit, but if don't bid notrump now it can get lost.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: 2nt much better than dbl for sure|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|nt|gracelin: Thurston's 2S opening is like Fantunes, 10-14 and a 6-card suit.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|dT|pc|c9|nt|sunsamvar: but not a great result... nonvul doesnot matter i guess|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| mc|6|nt|gracelin: no, -100 Vs. -140, a gain of 1 imp|pg|| pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SAQT764HQ5DAT8C75,S932H984D654CKQ96,SJ8HKT632DK32CJ32,SK5HAJ7DQJ97CAT84|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|iverson200: 1NT semi Forcing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iverson200: 2@c is either 6@s 11-15 or 16+|pg|| pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: or real clubs also?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|iverson200: no, i think they modified gazilli structure|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|nt|iverson200: 1@s 1nt 2@s = @s+@c 11-15|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|iverson200: 1@s 1nt 2@c = 6@s 11-15 or 16+ strong hand|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|fabsayc: which we will call gazala|pg|| nt|iverson200: lol|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| nt|iverson200: it makes sense, comparing with the old gazilli structure, you have to go to at least 2@s with @s+@c weak hand|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|c8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2S98HAJ4DKJ3CK9732,SAT6HQ2DAT954CJ54,SJ754H876DQ87CQ86,SKQ32HKT953D62CAT|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|sunsamvar: last board here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: Tx to all the many kibs and esp for those perceptive comments|pg|| nt|kit: this is probably GF checkback|pg|| mb|3N|nt|Psyck: Board 27 scored on all tables, & as expected this table was the only one to get to slam.|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: north may need to find a minor suit lead to beat 3NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|gracelin: But I guess he will lead a spade|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Tx Patrick, Kit, Key... been a pleasure commentating with you.|pg|| nt|key1809: @s lead will sell this, and u surely cant blame him for leading one|pg|| nt|kit: theme -- when you look in your hand for a 5-card suit to lead vs. 3NT and don't see one, try looking in partner's hand.|pg|| nt|gracelin: Though low club is possible|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Enjoy the remaining session today and the rest of the world championship from beautiful Bali|pg|| pc|c6|nt|kit: and sometimes you will find it!|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|nt|gracelin: Very good. Are we speaking too loudly here ?|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|key1809: well done Simth, he who laughs last laughs the best , But here the Italians are still sitting pretty|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|sunsamvar: @s lead might have given declarer a chance but now tis curtains..|pg|| nt|kit: but will he unblock queen?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kit: ouch! And this tells declarer what is happening also|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|sunsamvar: nice lead Smith but why the @Cq ??|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|d2|pg|| nt|kit: he thought his partner had the jack, and needed to unblock|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sK|nt|gracelin: There shud be a way to tell partner whether to unblock or not.|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d5|nt|kit: would have been right if his partner had jack of clubs and declarer jack of hearts.|pg|| nt|key1809: no harm done|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: partner has to have entries even if the block is there|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d9|nt|key1809: but that entry cd be knocked out on first go |pg|| pc|d8|nt|gracelin: but one entry will not be enough if clubs are blocked|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|aa6: nice lead Smith |pg|| nt|kit: yes -- return high with no jack, return low with jack.|pg|| mc|8|nt|gracelin: bye all, the next match will start in 50 minutes from now|pg|| nt|key1809: bye thx all|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: bye all. tx|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2S98HAJ4DKJ3CK9732,SAT6HQ2DAT954CJ54,SJ754H876DQ87CQ86,SKQ32HKT953D62CAT|sv|e|nt|iverson200: so by swapping 2@s and the weak @s @c hand, might be more room to explore slams with 6c@s hand|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|iverson200: last board in this set|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|iverson200: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/bali.13/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=980 running scores|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|iverson200: sorry Martin, but i have to say Italy's performance is impeccable in this set|pg|| nt|fabsayc: boards 1+2 where worth more than the imps earned|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: but only 6@C was exceptional|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|nt|iverson200: very good lead|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|h5|pg|| nt|fabsayc: thanks to our operator, to Luo, and spectators with their help, and GO Canada, still in the hunt|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d5|nt|iverson200: Thanks|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c7|mc|7|nt|iverson200: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/bali.13/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=980|pg|| nt|iverson200: Thanks all see you in 40 minutes time|pg|| pg||