vg|2013 Senior USBC USA2 Final,Segment 3 of 6,I,31,45,Lynch,80,Meltzer,41| rs|4SN-1,4SN-1,5HN+1,5CWx-1,3NS+1,2SE-1,5CN-1,6CN-1,4SN=,4SN=,2CS=,2NS-2,3NE+1,3NE+4,1NN+1,1NEx-2,5HW=,6CSx=,2HE-2,3NS=,3NN+1,2HN+1,3CS=,4DSx-3,3NE-1,2NE=,3NS+2,3NN+2,4HW-2,2HW+1| pn|Hayden,Meltzer,Bates,Mohan,Beatty,M. Passell,M. Cohen,Jacobus|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SK752HDKT98542CJT,SAJ4HT863DJ6CA975,SQ986HAKJ9DA7CQ64,ST3HQ7542DQ3CK832|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: welcome to the 3rd of 6 segments (15 bds each) to determine USA2 for the Seniors for the World Championships this fall in Bali|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|c8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SK752HDKT98542CJT,SAJ4HT863DJ6CA975,SQ986HAKJ9DA7CQ64,ST3HQ7542DQ3CK832|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: We are one-third of the way through this match, and the Lynch team has a useful lead.|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ady: n/s may play 4@S would depend on lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|3for3: 3nt is laydown, but i dont see anyway to get there. if diamonds dont run, could be down a lot though|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|3for3: ns following normal stayman to 4@S|pg|| nt|ady: will east find club lead|pg|| nt|3for3: no lead appeals|pg|| nt|BobThomson: either a club or a trump - N bid hearts, and S bid diamonds|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|3for3: that Tx of spades makes that lead dangerous|pg|| nt|medwards: Probably not a trump from the ten|pg|| nt|3for3: i say he leads a club|pg|| pc|c3|nt|3for3: dummy has a likely source of tricks|pg|| nt|ady: wekk dibe east|pg|| nt|ady: good start for Passell|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ady: well done|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: "hmm" says Cohen|pg|| nt|ady: declarer has to find ace doubleton trump and it is not there|pg|| nt|3for3: north will look for a doubleton ace of spades or jt dub of spades...|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|medwards: Beatty and Cohen have been some what unlucky in this match|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|3for3: is thos result inlucky? feels normal to me|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| mc|9|nt|medwards: Like the spade slam|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: beatty: "no slam?" passell: "3NT"|pg|| pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SKJ9654HT9DT853C9,STH83DACKQT875432,SAQ8HAKJ652DKJ76C,S732HQ74DQ942CAJ6|sv|e|mb|5C|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|d3|mc|12|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SKJ9654HT9DT853C9,STH83DACKQT875432,SAQ8HAKJ652DKJ76C,S732HQ74DQ942CAJ6|sv|e|nt|BobThomson: I think of results like this as "normal minus" - if they do something different at the other table, we will probably lose IMPs (as NS)|pg|| nt|BobThomson: I predict that W will bid clubs|pg|| nt|3for3: that is a lot of clubs :)|pg|| mb|4C|nt|3for3: 2@C is available as min opener 6 plus clubs. he has the plus|pg|| mb|4H|mb|5C|nt|BobThomson: yes, but with so little defense he wants to use up room|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|3for3: cohen|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|BobThomson: tough decision for S - he can't count on partner for spade support|pg|| nt|3for3: cohen's double just shows a good hand, doesnt have to have support for unbud suits|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|nt|ady: n/s can make 6@S but got too high to find|pg|| nt|BobThomson: which is why Passell didn't just open 2@C|pg|| pg|| qx|o33|st||md|3SKQT86HAQ85DA4CQ3,S7HK74DK87CAJ8652,SJHJT962DQJT5CK94,SA95432H3D9632CT7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2D|an|weak in one major|nt|ady: hi all|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: welcome david|pg|| mb|2N|mb|3C|nt|ady: there is no making game for n/s if east loses a penaly even undoubled should lose several imps|pg|| nt|ady: thx Joe|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Bates looking through the written defense to multi|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ady: not sure how east managed 7 tricks in 2@S CR|pg|| nt|ady: 3T suggested if played by North difficulties on a club lead|pg|| nt|ady: sorry meant played by south|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: in other room Beatty started with spade king ducked, then red aces. Dec was able to take some ruffs in his and and have A9x of spades left when south had longer spades and ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: eventually had to lead into him|pg|| nt|ady: will likely play 4@H|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|Vugraphzfc: NS have not discussed this auction; they are not clear what is going on|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: tht south would remove to 4@H|pg|| nt|ady: declarer in fact will be ok on a club lead if attacking hearts first|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Bates saying he meant 3@D as invitational in hearts or better; Hayden said he had no idea what the bids meant |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: director is here|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Director was at the table; now the director and Mohan are away from the table talking|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: ready to go|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ady: kib says cannot go wrong but if playing a spade first can do down|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ady: should clear hearts|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h6|nt|ady: looks 8 or 9 imps for leaders|pg|| pc|c7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ady: assuming playing for A@S with east |pg|| pc|hT|pc|d3|pc|h8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|d4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s8|mc|10|nt|ady: 9 imps|pg|| pg|| qx|c33|st||md|3SKQT86HAQ85DA4CQ3,S7HK74DK87CAJ8652,SJHJT962DQJT5CK94,SA95432H3D9632CT7|sv|o|nt|BobThomson: the other table was also in 4@s down one on 31|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|3for3: this looks another game down...|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: could be 2@S doubled, down|pg|| nt|3for3: or perhaps 2@Sx down many|pg|| mb|p|nt|3for3: or undoubled|pg|| nt|ady: have to leave you needed in OR|pg|| nt|3for3: one has to draw the line somewhere on reopening doubles|pg|| nt|BobThomson: N really doesn't have a very good hand to force his partner to bid at the three level|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: EW play UD unless they lead an A|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Vugraphzff: passell: "let's hope they can't draw trumps"|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|nt|BobThomson: Now Cohen wishes he had doubled|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|3for3: not an appealing dummy to shift to; both red aces onside means the damage in 2@S will be minimal|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hQ|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o34|st||md|4SAJT9HAQ954DT95C8,S5HJT732DAKQJ43C5,SKQ6HK8D7CKQJT976,S87432H6D862CA432|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|nt|ady: nice 6@C for Miltzer in CR|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3D|nt|bobholl: if west bids 5@D they cannot use RKC|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: 6@D a save|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ady: at least 7 tricks|pg|| nt|bobholl: 6@D too high|pg|| nt|ady: sorry of course 2 aces missing|pg|| nt|ady: must be the heat|pg|| mb|d|nt|ady: sorry all|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: a little cooler to-day but has been generaly around 23 for past 2 weeks|pg|| pc|h6|nt|Vugraphzfc: nice lead for a push|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|bobholl: even 5@C migth go down now|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|c2|pc|h4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c34|st||md|4SAJT9HAQ954DT95C8,S5HJT732DAKQJ43C5,SKQ6HK8D7CKQJT976,S87432H6D862CA432|sv|n|nt|BobThomson: as it turns out, it hardly mattered whether it was doubled. Nicely played by Jacobus.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|3C|mb|3D|nt|BobThomson: Beatty was going to be forced to ruff the next diamond, then lead a high spade, ducked, then give up a trick to the nine|pg|| nt|BobThomson: all the players at the table could see this, so declarer just claimed|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|nt|3for3: cohen in a tuff spot here|pg|| nt|3for3: 3 non diamond aces and slam is cold|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|nt|3for3: good obstruction here from EW|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|medwards: I do not agree with guessing at the six level.|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c6|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| mc|11|nt|BobThomson: 5@D is off 500 if the defense leads trumps|pg|| nt|medwards: exactly|pg|| pg|| qx|o35|st||md|1SA984HJ7DKJT8CJ83,SHAT9865D975CK742,SKQJT73H4DQ6CAT95,S652HKQ32DA432CQ6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2D|an|weak 2 in one major|nt|Vugraphzfc: the written defenses come out again|pg|| mb|2S|mb|d|nt|ady: 5@H a save even vul for e/w|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: director asks players to pick up the pace|pg|| mb|3H|mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ady: a push Meltzer could have got back 6 saving or more if n/s shoud try 5 spades|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfc: Bates saves a little time|pg|| pg|| qx|c35|st||md|1SA984HJ7DKJT8CJ83,SHAT9865D975CK742,SKQJT73H4DQ6CAT95,S652HKQ32DA432CQ6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: NS can make 4@S here, despite a shortage of HCP|pg|| nt|3for3: same can be said re 4@H EW|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|3for3: of course spades>hearts|pg|| nt|medwards: And E-W have a vul save|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|BobThomson: Passell's disciplined pass instead of opening 2@h seems kind of old-fashioned nowadays|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|medwards: yes|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|3for3: vul vs not, people still have standards|pg|| nt|BobThomson: well, some people, anyway|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|3for3: i suspect the result would be the same; no way jacobus is getting passed 4@H|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o36|st||md|2SA85HK3D952CAKT94,SKQT2H6DAQ874C876,S643HAQT84DJ63C32,SJ97HJ9752DKTCQJ5|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: 5-3-3-2 can be dangerous with overcall with 5 card suit|pg|| pc|h6|nt|Vugraphzfc: Mohan (on seeing dummy): "two hearts wouldn't have been good"|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|s3|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|8|nt|ady: home with clubs 3-2|pg|| pg|| qx|c36|st||md|2SA85HK3D952CAKT94,SKQT2H6DAQ874C876,S643HAQT84DJ63C32,SJ97HJ9752DKTCQJ5|sv|b|nt|BobThomson: quite - another reason to be disciplined R v W is that even when you have a save, you can't risk it|pg|| nt|3for3: past*|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: e-w discussing their sac|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzff: P by E alerted by W but not by E|pg|| mb|2N|nt|3for3: beatty has a good hand; easy 2@C if forcing, not so easy if not|pg|| mb|p|nt|BobThomson: Beatty has a tough hand to bid - strong, but poor heart support, and no stopper in the opps suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|3for3: diamonds doesn't have to be a 'suit' though|pg|| mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|BobThomson: right, so Beatty chose to risk 2N without a stopper|pg|| nt|BobThomson: heh - but Passell doesn't know that |pg|| nt|3for3: beatty can make if he plays all out, with 2 club hooks|pg|| nt|drewsky: One of the reasons I like to play that new suit is forcing one round after an overcall is sto stop my partner from overcalling so light.|pg|| nt|3for3: but i suspect he will just try to run hearts and finish -2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzff: UDCA, Smith|pg|| nt|BobThomson: if hearts break, Beatty has eight tricks off the top|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|nt|BobThomson: he's about to be disappointed|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| nt|3for3: no jacobus can split clubs and -2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|3for3: hayden bates had super result on 33, getting to 3nt instead of 4@H with 9 card fit|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o37|st||md|3SQ853HQ43D74C9632,SKT9HT87DQT8653C5,SJ76HAK62DJ92CQ87,SA42HJ95DAKCAKJT4|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: Mohan: "amazing how fast when can play when the cops are called"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: heart jack was not played on last|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: north opening poor hope for his sake this is not passed out|pg|| nt|ady: North will scream for help|pg|| mb|r|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ady: 1 @H at best 4 tricks|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: but not so easy to double|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ady: !@S would also have been expensive on a club lead west can discard 2 hearts on 2nd and 3rd club|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s7|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Mohan:"if this were the Reisinger, I'd make 7" |pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|mc|10|pg|| qx|c37|st||md|3SQ853HQ43D74C9632,SKT9HT87DQT8653C5,SJ76HAK62DJ92CQ87,SA42HJ95DAKCAKJT4|sv|n|nt|3for3: big club|pg|| nt|3for3: or perhaps 2nt opener|pg|| mb|p|nt|3for3: i think they play 2N 19-20 and might upgrade|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|3for3: but no|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|3for3: 3nt a walk in the park with both red suits favorable|pg|| pc|s9|nt|BobThomson: especially now - declarer can make all the tricks if he goes all-out|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|3for3: it appears ns had a mixup that got them to 3nt, but they will take the 9 imps anyway!|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|c4|nt|3for3: all out it is|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|h5|nt|BobThomson: wow... if Beatty had lead small from XXXX, Jacobus was going down|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h2|nt|3for3: yes, a bit surprised, perhaps there was a smith echo or lack thereof|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c7|pc|hJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|BobThomson: At IMP's, it's mathematically worth taking small risks of going down to make overtricks, esp. non-vull|pg|| pc|cK|mc|13|pg|| qx|o38|st||md|4SJ732HQ7D873CKQJ6,SKT6HK9432DT2CA53,SA98HAJTDKJ94CT82,SQ54H865DAQ65C974|sv|e|nt|ady: Lynch 26 imps without reply this set Meltzer need something quickly|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: eaerlier Meltzer came back from 96 down with 30 to play|pg|| nt|ady: might get something here |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: with a little help from a 3 IMP procedural penalty|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ady: in CR east opened 1@H P 1NT east P P double north so that was 500|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jcwla: http://www.usbf.org |pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d2|nt|ady: west better to hold of A@C to 3rd round|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h4|mc|8|pg|| qx|c38|st||md|4SJ732HQ7D873CKQJ6,SKT6HK9432DT2CA53,SA98HAJTDKJ94CT82,SQ54H865DAQ65C974|sv|e|mb|p|nt|3for3: [34] 5@C was set in other room, so flat versus 6@C here|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: good news for Meltzer - another big swing would put Lynch awfully far ahead|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h8|nt|3for3: hearts are known to be offside for declarer on this auction, but fortunately diamond king on|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|nt|BobThomson: that's about the only fortunate thing about this hand for E-W|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|h4|pg|| nt|3for3: I would have just raised 1@H to 2 as East, harder to get you then. |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|cJ|mc|5|pg|| qx|o39|st||md|1S652HDAJT64CAQ876,SQ9HAKQ98764D975C,SJ84HJDKQ2CKJT942,SAKT73HT532D83C53|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|4H|mb|d|nt|ady: big result for Meltzer in closed room wrong led to 6@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ady: need to find the right lead against 6 hearts|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: and 6 clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: think north will go to 6@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: and could be a push|pg|| nt|ady: no|pg|| nt|ady: enormous sing for Meltzer|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Meltzer: "I'm playing undoubled?"|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ady: 19 imps|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Vugraphzfc: 4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| mc|11|nt|ady: pick up of 28 imps in 2 hands|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: 28 IMPS for Meltzer in last two boads to take a small lead for this segment|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Mohan saying he might have bid 4@S earlier to make it easier to find a spade lead against clubs|pg|| pg|| qx|c39|st||md|1S652HDAJT64CAQ876,SQ9HAKQ98764D975C,SJ84HJDKQ2CKJT942,SAKT73HT532D83C53|sv|b|nt|3for3: action board|pg|| mb|1D|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|6C|nt|3for3: i think he committed to declare now|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|medwards: LEAD IMPORTANT HERE|pg|| nt|3for3: sshould jacobus have tried 4@S over 4@H doubled? |pg|| mc|12|nt|BobThomson: I was just about to say the same thing|pg|| pg|| qx|o40|st||md|2SKHQ43DAJ965CKQ87,S964HA98765D73CA5,SQJT2HJT2DKQ2CJT6,SA8753HKDT84C9432|sv|o|mb|2D|an|weak in one major|mb|p|mb|2H|an|pass or correct|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: might be a swing for Lynch here|pg|| nt|ady: not clear for north to do anything|pg|| mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cJ|nt|ady: west did open 2@H in CR P P south bid 2NT and was raised to 3|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ady: beg your pardon another swing for Meltzer|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|c8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c40|st||md|2SKHQ43DAJ965CKQ87,S964HA98765D73CA5,SQJT2HJT2DKQ2CJT6,SA8753HKDT84C9432|sv|o|mb|2H|nt|3for3: so 38.39 look to make the match much closer|pg|| nt|BobThomson: awkward hand for S after 2@H - p - p|pg|| nt|medwards: 2NT?|pg|| nt|3for3: I'd try 2nt, warts and all|pg|| nt|BobThomson: yeah, it's more likely to reach a making game than a 3@d balance|pg|| nt|BobThomson: on the other hand, it's also more likely to reach 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|3for3: plus you really want it from your side|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: and 3NT turns out to be cold|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|drewsky: for those of you care....Tiger Woods is at top of leaderboard in the OPEN|pg|| nt|BobThomson: 7 more IMPs for Lynch on 36, when Bates/Hayden stopped safely in 2@c|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|s3|pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o41|st||md|3S93HKJT74DJ8CKT97,SKQ852H82DT92CA53,SAJTH93DAK65CQJ64,S764HAQ65DQ743C82|sv|e|nt|ady: gap down to 30 imps|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|Vugraphzfc: opposite a 14-16 NT in the other room, South passed 2@h|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|ady: chances on diamond lead|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: 14-16 here as well|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ady: 3 club tricks can make 2 spades 3 diamonds and cannot go wrong making 1 heart trick|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s9|nt|ady: 6 imps for Lynch|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c41|st||md|3S93HKJT74DJ8CKT97,SKQ852H82DT92CA53,SAJTH93DAK65CQJ64,S764HAQ65DQ743C82|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: Jacobus won three IMPs by risking the loss of ten in his 3NT on 37|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: I am not recommending that everybody start risking their contracts for overtricks at IMPs,|pg|| nt|BobThomson: but sometimes the pros do it because it's right.|pg|| mb|p|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|nt|medwards: Was south too consevative h on this hand?|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|hT|pc|dT|pg|| mc|9|nt|medwards: 5-4 eight with two tens|pg|| pg|| qx|o42|st||md|4SAKT92H976DAKQ5CJ,SQ7653HKQJT5D4CA6,SJH84DT86CQT98754,S84HA32DJ9732CK32|sv|b|nt|ady: 7 in fact east squeezed in end game|pg|| nt|jtmckee: squeezed out of an imp ?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: more potential for Lynch here|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|an|strong,, artificial|mb|d|an|majors|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ady: poor bidding in CR south opened 1@S 2@H overcall p 3@H south assumed north short of hearts and 4@D on a 4 card suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|Vugraphzfc: auction came up well for the big clubbers here|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ady: spoilt the Meltzer come back|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|cA|pc|d8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Mohan laughs - now making of course|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cT|mc|9|pg|| qx|c42|st||md|4SAKT92H976DAKQ5CJ,SQ7653HKQJT5D4CA6,SJH84DT86CQT98754,S84HA32DJ9732CK32|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|3for3: passs missing here|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|BobThomson: 4@d is a very bold bid|pg|| pc|h4|nt|3for3: this will put an end to NS's good run|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|3for3: he knows partner is short in hearts, so was hopping for a good fit in diamonds...|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|3for3: a 4th diamond opposite would make a huge difference|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|BobThomson: I think 4@D was "ill-advised" - his partner rates to be completely broke, and the opponents will know what to do|pg|| nt|3for3: and a 5th, too; 5@D and a stiff heart you can practically claim game. So passing not so 'safe' either|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|d6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|c5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h5|pc|c7|nt|3for3: [[39] was 19 imps to meltzer taking the lead in the set with 2 huge boards|pg|| mc|7|nt|BobThomson: you don't see that 19 IMPs very often|pg|| pg|| qx|o43|st||md|1SKQ9754H7DKT43CKT,S3HAKT8D972CQJ873,ST8HQJ653D865CA52,SAJ62H942DAQJC964|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ady: would have tht west would pass 2NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: Passell passed 2NT on the same auction at the other table.|pg|| nt|ady: there does not seem to be a clear understanding with e/w looks like west was trying to play in 3@C rather than 2NT|pg|| nt|3for3: we speculated as to whether 3@C was forcing in other room|pg|| nt|3for3: here ew not on the same page|pg|| nt|drewsky: There are 2 schools of thought with respect to the 3@C call, so it is important to discuss it with your partner.|pg|| nt|jtmckee: no doubt he is expecting more than this ten count|pg|| pc|d3|nt|Vugraphzfc: same lead as in other room- Meltzer: "I bid bec I didn't want to put this dummy down:|pg|| pc|d9|nt|BobThomson: same lead in other room... it turns out, it's better to just lead spades and let declarer win two tricks in the suit|pg|| pc|d5|nt|drewsky: Is it (1) I am too good to overcall 3@C, or (2) you have described your hand and I am correcting the partscore ?|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c6|nt|BobThomson: better to lead a _small_ spade, and knock out the jack immediately, so N can win the first club|pg|| nt|drewsky: I mean to type 2@C sorry|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d6|nt|jtmckee: roger must continue diamonds and he does|pg|| nt|BobThomson: I think, in the absence of discussion, that 3@C over 2NT should be forcing|pg|| nt|BobThomson: on the theory that a possible slam or choice of games is more important that improving the partscore|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ady: heading for down|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ady: 1|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|jtmckee: IMNSHO it is impossible that this has not been discussed|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|BobThomson: another kibitzer mentions that 3@c could also be Stayman|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: don't think stayman is an option|pg|| nt|ady: only 1 major left|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| nt|BobThomson: right, Stayman would be weird since partner could have just bid hearts|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| mc|8|nt|BobThomson: on the other hand, if you play Stayman/transfers on all your natural 2NT auctions it might be your agreement|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: discussing the auction. Meltzer; "I bid bec I was weak" Mohan: "you could also have a good hand"|pg|| pg|| qx|c43|st||md|1SKQ9754H7DKT43CKT,S3HAKT8D972CQJ873,ST8HQJ653D865CA52,SAJ62H942DAQJC964|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|BobThomson: aggressive double by W... N might bid 1NT to show some values while he can|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|BobThomson: not what Passell wanted to hear|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|3for3: yes, but 1nt seems inadequate....|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|BobThomson: oh, _Jacobus_ had his bid completely!|pg|| nt|3for3: would 3@C be forcing?|pg|| nt|3for3: by passell?|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|BobThomson: I would assume so by default - if you have a sub-minimum takeout double, just hope 2NT isn't that bad|pg|| nt|3for3: but with good hand most of the time you just bid 3nt|pg|| nt|3for3: partner has real stoppers for 2nt; slam is far away|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|hJ|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o44|st||md|2SJ952HQDAK853CAJ2,S43HA64D76C987653,SA76HKJT732DT4CK4,SKQT8H985DQJ92CQT|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|BobThomson: I don't care how weak my hand is, I'm happy to let Mohan play the dummy|pg|| nt|ady: an easy game here for n/s|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|BobThomson: might make only 4 and lose an IMP|pg|| nt|BobThomson: spades sound like 5-1, not 4-2|pg|| nt|BobThomson: so declarer will rise with the ace|pg|| nt|BobThomson: oh, wait, they are in 3NT, not 4@H, duh|pg|| nt|BobThomson: there will not be any ruffs on this hand|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|Vugraphzfc: played from the other side in other room, with club queen lead|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d3|mc|11|pg|| qx|c44|st||md|2SJ952HQDAK853CAJ2,S43HA64D76C987653,SA76HKJT732DT4CK4,SKQT8H985DQJ92CQT|sv|n|nt|BobThomson: well, I'm sure Passell & Jacobus know what 3@C would have meant|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|BobThomson: either 3NT or 4@h should be easy for NS here|pg|| nt|3for3: good coffee board|pg|| nt|BobThomson: Another 7 IMPs to Beatty-Cohen for bidding game on board 40 - the lead is down to 30.|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|3for3: the multi (in other room) created 2 swings, one each way|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|3for3: ez 11 here|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| nt|drewsky: easy 12 with the spade-diamond squeeze|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|s2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|nt|drewsky: mike can break up squzze with spade play|pg|| nt|3for3: meltzer won 35 in 3 boards; now 2 good results for lynch will put them back in the lead for this set|pg|| mc|11|nt|Vugraphzff: Cohen saying 11 'cuz he can no longer squeeze him|pg|| pg|| qx|o45|st||md|3SKJ97HJ83D8CAJ974,SQ6HQ9542DAJ965C3,SA532HT6DKQ432C65,ST84HAK7DT7CKQT82|sv|b|mb|p|nt|ady: last hand of the session thx Joe and kibs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: last here for this segment. this is the halfway point in the match|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|an|asking|nt|ady: might get overboard here|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|an|min with 3 hearts|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sixela: why ask if you don't care about the answer?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: maybe a misunderstanding -- Meltzer thought 2N would be 3 cd raise with min.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: was a misunderstanding|pg|| nt|ady: too much wastage in clubs and spades |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Mohan says he has a good min|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: and he does opposite another hand|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| nt|jtmckee: what he has is a 7-8 imp loss|pg|| nt|ady: lead helps for 9 tricks|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|Vugraphzfc: thanks to all the great commentators. I'm heading home after this set leaving u in the v capable hands of Jan Martel|pg|| pc|s6|nt|ady: thx Joe|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|s9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|sT|pc|h3|pc|d6|pg|| nt|cc469: very nicely defended|pg|| mc|8|nt|ady: bye all sorry for couple of errors|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: restart in about 15 minutes. thanks for being here.|pg|| pg|| qx|c45|st||md|3SKJ97HJ83D8CAJ974,SQ6HQ9542DAJ965C3,SA532HT6DKQ432C65,ST84HAK7DT7CKQT82|sv|b|nt|BobThomson: on 41, Hayden decided his 8 count with two tens _was_ worth an invite, and won 7 IMPs by reaching game|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|3for3: halfway point of the match....still lots of bridge left|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|3for3: quiet heart partial to end the set...|pg|| nt|3for3: unless beatty comes alive|pg|| nt|BobThomson: his problem is that a double would imply diamond support|pg|| mb|p|pc|dK|nt|3for3: I think you need to double 1@D or hold your peace|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|3for3: 2@H will be a comfortable make|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|BobThomson: I would be more likely to double a natural 1@D than a nebulous big-club 1@D|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|3for3: great diamond spots will see plus 1|pg|| nt|3for3: for sure, bob|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c2|pc|s7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d5|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzff: thanks for watching; table will be open until others finish; restart at announced time|pg|| pg||