vg|2013 A Senior USBC SF,Segment 5 of 6,I,61,75,Lynch,123,Street,85| rs|6SN=,4SN+2,5SN=,6DS=,3NS=,4HN+2,4HSx=,1SEx-2,1NW-1,1NW+1,6SW-1,4SW+1,1NN+2,4SS=,2SS-1,2SS-1,3NW+1,4SE-1,2HN+1,2HN+1,4HWx-1,5CN-1,3NS+2,3NS+2,3CS-1,2NS-1,4SS+2,4SN+2,2SN-1,2CS+2| pn|Jacobus,MGranovett,Wold,Rubin,H. Lall,Passell,Chorush,Lynch|pg|| qx|o61|st||md|3SKQT53HADKJ976C74,SJ4HT9542D83CKQ52,S9862HKJ83DAQCAJT,SA7HQ76DT542C9863|sv|b|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Contract is 6@s N; no auction available|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|mc|12|pg|| qx|c61|st||md|3SKQT53HADKJ976C74,SJ4HT9542D83CKQ52,S9862HKJ83DAQCAJT,SA7HQ76DT542C9863|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o62|st||md|4ST84H764DAQJ52CK6,S52HKJ52D76CJT942,SAKJ97HAT83DK984C,SQ63HQ9DT3CAQ8753|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-15, 2+@D EW 1@D opener will be 0+|pg|| mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: both pairs playing a Big Club system|pg|| mb|d|mb|4C|nt|ahollan1: all Lynch pairings [i think we've seen 5 or 6] playing a form of Precision|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = 3@S [Support DBL]|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: even with the 5@C bid - just seems too tough to find different lead from East|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sT|mc|11|pg|| qx|c62|st||md|4ST84H764DAQJ52CK6,S52HKJ52D76CJT942,SAKJ97HAT83DK984C,SQ63HQ9DT3CAQ8753|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an|art GF|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|diana_eva: Welcome Harmon, thank you|pg|| nt|Harmon: An auspicious start when needing a comeback|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: welcome, Harmon -- thanks for being here|pg|| mb|p|nt|Harmon: Hemant forgot system again|pg|| nt|Harmon: Peggy distracted him:)|pg|| mb|3D|nt|Harmon: oh phew|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: my fau;t|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|nt|Harmon: So peggy distracted you Joe|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|nt|pbundy: i distract EVERYONE - LOL! :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: Hi Peggy == welcome|pg|| nt|Harmon: 6d will make w/o ht lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|pbundy: I must admit that east does not have THE most attractive heart lead in the world!|pg|| nt|pbundy: Of course, the danger is that they reach spades and not diamonds - which has no chance on this layout.|pg|| mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pbundy: they passed hurdle 1.....|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|pbundy: oops - east would not have been on lead in any case - and - now the contract is secure.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|Vugraphzfu: claimsannouncing he wil take a spade finesse|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o63|st||md|1SQ873HQDK32CK8752,ST5H974D8654CT643,SAJ6HAJ6532DAQJTC,SK942HKT8D97CAQJ9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong|mb|p|mb|1H|an|any 8-11 without 5+!s|mb|p|mb|2H|an|natural|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+ unbal or 17+ bal [but not 19-20 bal]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H = any 8-11 hcp but not 5+@S|pg|| mb|2S|an|waiting, fewer than 3!h|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: not sure if 2@S showing 4@S [1@H denied 5+] or if it is artificial denying @H fit|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i suspect we're seeing natural bidding after 1@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: if you're using web version of BBO - try clicking on player name some cute features were added starting with the Open USBC event in June|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c63|st||md|1SQ873HQDK32CK8752,ST5H974D8654CT643,SAJ6HAJ6532DAQJTC,SK942HKT8D97CAQJ9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|Harmon: ok we bac to needing comeback|pg|| mb|r|nt|pbundy: i am guessing we will hear xx now?|pg|| nt|pbundy: well; shows you what i know!|pg|| mb|2C|nt|pbundy: heh heh heh|pg|| nt|Harmon: redble shows exactly 2h|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: anything to make Peg happy :)|pg|| nt|pbundy: glad to know you boys are on MY side!|pg|| mb|3C|nt|Harmon: not touching THAT one|pg|| nt|Harmon: they will reach 4h|pg|| mb|4C|nt|pbundy: east could be considering a double, to show her good clubs.... OR it might be south who is cogitating|pg|| nt|pbundy: oh my..........|pg|| nt|Harmon: maybe not|pg|| mb|d|nt|glenne: might not have to|pg|| nt|pbundy: will north sit for this?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: didn't see that one coming|pg|| nt|pbundy: i guess - why not!|pg|| nt|pbundy: although the time lapse here makes me think that north must be considering other action than pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|pbundy: i don't think mike is considering sending this one back :)|pg|| nt|Harmon: when Ira leads a trump this will be bloody, no excuses not to|pg|| nt|glenne: i hate not having a trump to lead against a doubled contract....but sometimes it's right anyway|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: N is thinking|pg|| nt|glenne: oops, forgot which side plays it|pg|| nt|pbundy: you can blame ira ALL you want, glenn!|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|Harmon: angry 4hts here lol|pg|| nt|pbundy: well; hemant knows that ira has no clubs, and his spots aren't fabulous, and his side IS vul|pg|| nt|pbundy: i don't know what hemant can do but bid 4@H|pg|| nt|bobholl: 5@D :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: Lall had 4@H card out and put it back|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Harmon: make 5|pg|| nt|Harmon: win 2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|glenne: win three?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|nt|glenne: or two|pg|| nt|Harmon: now 6 but still 2 i think|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h9|pg|| nt|glenne: right|pg|| mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfu: Passell asking if Lynch knew she was giving up a trick by playing a spade, since he couldn't have anything|pg|| pg|| qx|o64|st||md|2SKT962HAQT54D95CQ,SAHK8732DT73C9873,S5HJ96DKQ84CAKJ42,SQJ8743HDAJ62CT65|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: 2 matches in play - not sure why they're not playing the same boards :(|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 30 boards today to finish the USA2 Semifinal then 30 boards today to begin USA2 Final|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: USA2 Final plays 60 boards tomorrow to complete the 90 board match and this USBC Championship week [or however long we've been doing this]|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: good morning|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that's an oxymoron Joe|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: no this is debbie|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: oh you've changed hi Debbie|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: spoiler alert Lynch playing 1@SX EAST|pg|| nt|Drewsky: It does not appear to me that 4@H can be defeated|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hey Drew -- i have no life, but why are you up so early?|pg|| nt|glenne: other table playing four hearts x|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|s6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|hT|nt|Drewsky: watching the OPEN all night|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: west says sorry i am taking so long|pg|| nt|Drewsky: There is no successful defense here|pg|| nt|joest: Good morning gentlemen|pg|| nt|ahollan1: may not be last time he makes that announcement|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|hJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c64|st||md|2SKT962HAQT54D95CQ,SAHK8732DT73C9873,S5HJ96DKQ84CAKJ42,SQJ8743HDAJ62CT65|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|Harmon: Hemant mite got for penalty at these colors|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|Harmon: yep|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|pbundy: you think? :)|pg|| mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|pbundy: i imagine hemant is glad he didn't consider hearts, looking at the dummy|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| nt|pbundy: of course, it's not impossible that this result (or at least the auction) won't be duplicated at the other table|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|h5|nt|pbundy: i'm getting reports that the other table chalked up 590 here (n/s)|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|sQ|pc|hT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|sT|pc|h7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sK|mc|5|nt|pbundy: so a small loss for street, it appears|pg|| pg|| qx|o65|st||md|3SKQ7H84DT9653CAQ5,SA64HJT96DJ87CK64,S9852HAK52D2CJ732,SJT3HQ73DAKQ4CT98|sv|o|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: with result from other room DBL = lose 3 instead of win 3|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|d|mb|r!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0+@D, 11-15 HCP a) BAL, 12-14 b) 4+@D c) any 3-suiter [includes 4405] |pg|| nt|joest: what do you think of double with the north cards?|pg|| nt|joest: right shape|pg|| nt|joest: but no cards in your suits; would that deter you?|pg|| mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: sorry lose 3 vs win 2|pg|| nt|joest: it would me :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = a) 4+@H b) not 4+@H/@S, <13 HCP |pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW use 1@H-1N as game force relay, so 1@H carries extra weight for hand types|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: rubin is being the waitress for those wanting coffee and hot water|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: regular smith|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: ach 1@D-1N = game force relay|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Vugraphzfc: no beer this early|pg|| nt|ahollan1: RDBL = 3@H [support dbl situation]|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|joest: so +50 for Lynch|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h2|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|mc|6|pg|| qx|c65|st||md|3SKQ7H84DT9653CAQ5,SA64HJT96DJ87CK64,S9852HAK52D2CJ732,SJT3HQ73DAKQ4CT98|sv|o|nt|pbundy: IF indeed my spies are accurate :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| nt|pbundy: club shift best; we'll see if hemant can find it|pg|| nt|bobholl: other room in 4@H doubled |pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| nt|pbundy: more hearts now - i think|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|pbundy: 120|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o66|st||md|4S4HQJ75432DJC6542,SAKJT983HTDK6CAQ8,SQ65HAK6DT9854CJ7,S72H98DAQ732CKT93|sv|n|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|joest: Jacobus goes relatively low in second suit but particularly at the colors with poor heart spots|pg|| nt|joest: So I have a question for my other commentators|pg|| nt|joest: what does 3@s and 4@s mean directly over 2@h (by west)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he thought 7th @H made up for weakness Hemant Lall more conservative|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|joest: this attempt at slam might work on a luckier day|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|joest: so Granovetter decides against shooting out the spade queen|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think 4@S stronger suit with softer outside values|pg|| nt|joest: but Rubin overrules for some reason I'm mulling over|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: this feels just a bit too strong for 3@S - but is close|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| nt|joest: not that this is bad, although it is probably anti% off the auction|pg|| nt|Drewsky: Yes, jack, good point. A direct jump in spades would avoid any confusion when the enemy bids more hearts|pg|| nt|joest: Thanks Al|pg|| nt|joest: It makes big difference|pg|| nt|ahollan1: disclaimer: i could be wrong|pg|| nt|joest: if you double and bid 4@s do you have: (a) a hand too big for 4@s or (b) a flexible hand with spades and other stuff|pg|| nt|joest: partner needs to know to act intelligently|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|joest: it's possible Rubin didn't think 4NT was Blackwood, that it was pick a minor|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s7|nt|joest: when partner picked spades he kicked it in|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh right -- the f-word [flexibility]|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c66|st||md|4S4HQJ75432DJC6542,SAKJT983HTDK6CAQ8,SQ65HAK6DT9854CJ7,S72H98DAQ732CKT93|sv|n|nt|pbundy: anyone preempt here at these colors?|pg|| nt|sixela: anyone not?|pg|| nt|pbundy: lotta losers!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|pbundy: i guess hemant and i do not :)|pg|| mb|1C|an|strong, artificial|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|pbundy: e/w DOES play big club for those wondering about the auction so far|pg|| nt|sixela: makes life easy for the oppon and unlikely to go for a number at 3h|pg|| nt|bobholl: left on their own they may reach 6@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|pbundy: 6@S is a super contract IF you can find the spade queen onside - or dropping|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|pbundy: at the other table on the previous hand, 1nt was defeated - so 5 more in lynch's stack|pg|| nt|pbundy: fortunate bidding for e/w here|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: claims 6 if spades break -- 5 on this hand|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o67|st||md|1SAQ754HJ2DT932CA8,S963H93DQ8CKQ7532,SKT2HAK874D7654C6,SJ8HQT65DAKJCJT94|sv|e|nt|joest: yes indeed|pg|| nt|joest: in practice no ever bids 3@s b/c they don't know what it shows|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|semi forcing|mb|p|nt|Drewsky: 3@S is a hand too good to overcall 2@S and not good enought to overcall 4@S :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: thru 65 Meltzer 131 Simson 99|pg|| nt|joest: it'sactually kind of scary to start with a semiforcing NT with that hand|pg|| nt|joest: I would be petrified that my partner might pass|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: set score 13-6 for Simson|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|joest: I don't know what Eddie's other options were|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: you get my vote too Jack north hand should not be willing to hear 1N-P|pg|| nt|Drewsky: 2@H ?|pg|| nt|joest: I like 2@h drew|pg|| nt|joest: playing a club system you might just bid 4@s|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s4|nt|joest: not the worst bid I ever made but 'agricultural' as they say|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Drewsky: live a little, so whats the worse that can happen, u get too hight and go down ?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|cJ|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: rather than game force - how about lie limit raise in @S and owe partner a trump card?|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: "lie" was supposed to be erased :(|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|d3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c6|nt|Drewsky: I am a conservative bidder, and I would force to game|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c67|st||md|1SAQ754HJ2DT932CA8,S963H93DQ8CKQ7532,SKT2HAK874D7654C6,SJ8HQT65DAKJCJT94|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfu: Passell: "brilliant lead; might not have led it against6"|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|an|forcing|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|pbundy: north MIGHT bid 4@S now|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|pbundy: yep|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|pbundy: controls, short clubs - double fit (such as it is!)|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|s2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| nt|bobholl: @D 32 contract in|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|nt|pbundy: declarer is wisely setting up his diamonds prior to pulling trump so he cannot be pumped in clubs|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d6|pg|| nt|sixela: needed to continue clubs after winning d|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|pbundy: apparently on the previous hand, the street team DID find slam - and their luck was not in|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o68|st||md|2SAQJ763HT92DACQ75,S952HKJ84D6532CK8,SKH7653DKJT74CT92,ST84HAQDQ98CAJ643|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: 51 imps exchanged in 7 boards|pg|| nt|joest: they started with semiforcing NT at other table but south elected to bid 2@d at which point north bid game|pg|| mb|p|nt|joest: as who would not|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0+|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: north asks what is our LR|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: south 3 clubs and then steps|pg|| mb|1S|nt|Drewsky: and may I ask what bid partner could possibly rebid to make rebid less than 4@S ?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N rebid max of avg 14|pg|| nt|Drewsky: Jacobus likes to play 1@S-3@C is a 3 way bid (1) 3 card limit with shortness, OR (2) balanced LR, or (3) bad FR|pg|| nt|joest: so this can be beaten but not by leading partner's 'suit'|pg|| pc|cK|nt|joest: bingo|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: north says i have a good one|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|joest: at the other table east played back a suit preference jack of clubs here|pg|| nt|joest: not that it should really matter|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|c6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|mc|7|pg|| qx|c68|st||md|2SAQJ763HT92DACQ75,S952HKJ84D6532CK8,SKH7653DKJT74CT92,ST84HAQDQ98CAJ643|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|an|2+ diamonds|mb|2S|an|intermediate|nt|bobholl: they were "helped" by 2@H X 3@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|c4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s4|mc|7|pg|| qx|o69|st||md|3SJ4HQ964DT94CKT65,SKT9HKJ3DQ87CA742,S65HAT852DAJ52C93,SAQ8732H7DK63CQJ8|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|ahollan1: i believe 2@C = game force relay|pg|| mb|p|nt|joest: so 4@s seems to me to make if you guess the hearts|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H!|nt|joest: so this is a relay system and I will confess I dont know what is going on after th 2@c start|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no idea what their relay structure is ... yet [but i'm working on decoding]|pg|| nt|joest: Was it not Granovetter and Rubin who ran off a dazzling streak of wins in Challenge the Champs wayback kwhen (like in the 70s)|pg|| nt|joest: I think they had about eight straight months of 90+ scores|pg|| nt|ahollan1: indeed 10 or 11 wins playing Ultimate Club|pg|| nt|ahollan1: now they play GUS Granovetter Unified System|pg|| nt|joest: that clears it all up Al|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: i have the book on it|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: west says he shows 6 1 3 3 |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: fast mouse this morning|pg|| nt|joest: well done|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: sorry|pg|| nt|joest: so the only risk here is the club finesse losing, a diamond over a heart back|pg|| nt|joest: we can see that's no problem but declarer can't|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|sQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: Jack was right Rubin-Granovetter run in Bridge World "Challenge the Champs" Oct 1975-May 1976|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h9|pc|c4|nt|joest: the Ultimate Club system|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c69|st||md|3SJ4HQ964DT94CKT65,SKT9HKJ3DQ87CA742,S65HAT852DAJ52C93,SAQ8732H7DK63CQJ8|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfu: short break|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: we are back|pg|| pg|| qx|o70|st||md|4S98432HT843DAJCT6,SK5HJ65DKT96CQ843,SQ6HKQ97DQ52CAK52,SAJT7HA2D8743CJ97|sv|e|nt|joest: 430 or 460?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in the old days CTC was like knockout if you won, you kept bidding now each pair always 2 months in a row|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: 430 he pitch a heart instead of diamond and i cant always see what cards they plat :(|pg|| nt|joest: i c thx|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS 1N 1st/2nd/3rd non-vul 14-16 3rd vul/4th 15-17|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|joest: the south hand actually poses a problm for 'garbage' stayman in some systems|pg|| pc|d3|nt|joest: if you respond 2@c, partner bids 2@d and now you bid 2@s that actually shows an 8 count or so|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: eddie says stranding me?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: now i see|pg|| nt|Drewsky: OR you can play that garbage stayman is 5-4 either way|pg|| nt|joest: yes|pg|| nt|joest: if partner is 33 not lucky|pg|| nt|joest: or if partner is 32 not lucky|pg|| nt|ahollan1: right sometimes playing 43 @H instead of 53 @S|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Drewsky: my partners are usually 2-2 :)|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| nt|joest: very not lucky|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|joest: I feel like I am under an unlucky cloud with Garbage Stayman. I never strike oil :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: there's an adjunct to garbage stayman that can actually bring @C suit into play|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|h8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s8|pc|cQ|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfc: marc says strange squeexe|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N-2@C//2@D-2@H//2@S-3@C responder can has 3@S and 5+@C for the sequence|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: north says regruitation squeeze or like a trump squeeze everyone laughing|pg|| nt|joest: yes I agree|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but that is NOT a default agreement so make sure you talk it over with partner before trying it at the table|pg|| pg|| qx|c70|st||md|4S98432HT843DAJCT6,SK5HJ65DKT96CQ843,SQ6HKQ97DQ52CAK52,SAJT7HA2D8743CJ97|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|pbundy: garbage stayman in action|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfu: finding the right hand for garbage Stayman, as opposed to a transfer to spades|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| nt|pbundy: yes. i would have a tough time on this hand, as my partnership agreement is that stayman followed by 2@S is 5@S with invitational values|pg|| nt|pbundy: probably would have to either transfer to spades - or pass.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c8|pc|h7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|hT|pc|dT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o71|st||md|1SAQT64H3DT942CKQ9,SK875HKQJ8764D7C3,S3HA5DA853CJT8742,SJ92HT92DKQJ6CA65|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|Vugraphzfc: edgar would tells us if he was here -- thats true|pg|| mb|d|nt|joest: Rubin might just go to 4@h here|pg|| nt|joest: vulnerable two level overcalls are usually quite sound|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: deep sigh by rubin|pg|| nt|joest: although I could certainly see contenteing myself with 2@s|pg|| mb|3H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: Matt Granovetter has long history of sound overcalls at all levels|pg|| nt|joest: I wouldnot content myself with 3@h though :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: shrug shoulders by south|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: Jacobus takeout DBL rather than guessing a minor|pg|| nt|joest: Wold may just double for lack of anything else to do|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if you want, call it "responsive"|pg|| nt|joest: the lack of a spade raise is somewhat distressing from west's point of view but 4-7 doeesn't grow on trees either|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what do you think of 2@H vs Passell's 3@H over 1@S opener|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|joest: i prefer 2@h|pg|| nt|joest: particularly when I think of what I might have for 3@h|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|h5|nt|joest: so the Lynch team went plus at the other table (against 5@c) and they seem poised to do the same thing here|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c71|st||md|1SAQT64H3DT942CKQ9,SK875HKQJ8764D7C3,S3HA5DA853CJT8742,SJ92HT92DKQJ6CA65|sv|b|nt|pbundy: hemant will open|pg|| mb|1S|nt|pbundy: question is how many hearts mike will bid|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: would be rare to find someone who would pass the south hand these days|pg|| nt|pbundy: quite true!|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|Vugraphzfu: open and reopen no less|pg|| nt|pbundy: well; kind of forced to reopen on this auction|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|nt|pbundy: which will help n/s to get to clubs rather than diamonds|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pbundy: now ira has to try to make it!|pg|| nt|pbundy: if carolyn leads a diamond honor - i think he is home|pg|| pc|dK|nt|pbundy: oh no too early in the morning fo rme!|pg|| nt|pbundy: 3 losers of course anyway|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| nt|pbundy: you can hardly blame ira for bidding game with his hand, tho|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|h6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg|| nt|pbundy: unfortunately for n/s, they are needing sizeable pickups at this stage.... this hand cannot help|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: passell: "whatever else happend, I like the defense so far"|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o72|st||md|2SA42HAQDQT76CQT54,ST85HKJ6DA832C962,SQJ73H853DK94CAK8,SK96HT9742DJ5CJ73|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: we've actually had 2 pushes this set -- pure anomalies|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 39-29 set for Lynch|pg|| mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 2+@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|joest: 2@h is some minimum NT hand I presume al?|pg|| nt|joest: artificial|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: thru 69 of 90 Meltzer 36-13 for the set leads Simson by 62|pg|| nt|joest: so West with an unpleasant hand to lead from|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H = bal, 11-13|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: 2 h artifical 11-13|pg|| nt|joest: I'm guessing the 8 of spades but it's just a guess|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: 2 clubs art|pg|| nt|ahollan1: same after 1@D-2@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: art or just FG a) nat b) bal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so could be 2@C balanced game force|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: north does not have stiff club nor 5 diamonds|pg|| pc|d2|nt|Vugraphzfc: north has max|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: compared to what south opens said by east all laugh|pg|| pc|d6|nt|Vugraphzfc: 40 minutes for 3 and half boards|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|joest: so Jacobus seems on his way to 5 now for a push|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: south is dancing with his hand and making singing noise|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|c3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c72|st||md|2SA42HAQDQT76CQT54,ST85HKJ6DA832C962,SQJ73H853DK94CAK8,SK96HT9742DJ5CJ73|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2C|an|inverted invitational +|mb|p|nt|pbundy: not sure their NT range - but - some might prefer appropriate NT bid with south's hand|pg|| nt|pbundy: only 4@C and protects that heart holding|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pbundy: got the job done in any case|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|pbundy: and mike forges ahead with a diamond lead anyway, despite the 2@D call|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: passell: "need to let me in one more time to lead"|pg|| nt|pbundy: :)|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: I don't think 2@D was natural|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|h8|mc|11|pg|| qx|o73|st||md|3S52HQT3D73CAKJ982,SK7HKJ2DA985CQ654,SQ93HA86DKQT62C73,SAJT864H9754DJ4CT|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: let's try another nebulous 1@D|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|1S|nt|joest: Al, do you play preemptive jump overcalls at unfavorable?|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: EW play Intermediate Jump Overcalls throughout|pg|| nt|joest: Granovetter witha pretty good hand off this auction|pg|| nt|joest: right. but do you play preemptive jumps at unfavorable|pg|| mb|d|nt|joest: i have played intermediate at unfavorable even when otherwise weak|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: no always intermeidate|pg|| nt|joest: Jacobus will probably just bid 3@c here|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|joest: And I am guessing Wold will let that go|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Jack's is MUCH more common approach weak jump overcall non-vul intermediate vul|pg|| nt|joest: for intermediate players note that 2/1 is NOT a game force in competition|pg|| pc|sK|nt|joest: it would be ghastly to have to bid onas north|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Granovetters [Matt & Pam] really dislike preemptive jump overcalls |pg|| nt|joest: in fact north-south are too high already :)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: South hand nice for negative free bids|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: but west was going to push anyway|pg|| pc|c8|nt|joest: actually rubin probably needed to switch to hearts right there to beat it|pg|| nt|joest: not so simple|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: after nebulous 1@D what is best use of North's DBL of West's "cue"?|pg|| nt|joest: I"m not an expert on club systems but I would think 'real diamonds' is a good use|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| nt|joest: now diamond up|pg|| nt|joest: club back and another diamond up|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: can/should this be a Support DBL situation, just confirming decent @D length & strength or MAX all seem to make sense|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|joest: so down 1 for another push|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c73|st||md|3S52HQT3D73CAKJ982,SK7HKJ2DA985CQ654,SQ93HA86DKQT62C73,SAJT864H9754DJ4CT|sv|e|nt|pbundy: i would think it was stoppers at least.... that being said, if south has a holding like xx a diamond lead could surely be best|pg|| nt|pbundy: and the hand where mike preempted with hearts timed out poorly for street's e/w pair. east had values - but not the ones that declarer needed in 4@HX|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2N|an|invitationall|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|pbundy: hemant would like a club lead - and there it is|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: Chorush: "it is your own fault; you taught me to open hands like this"|pg|| nt|glenne: still wont be enough|pg|| nt|pbundy: BUT... he may figure out to switch to spades.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|nt|glenne: best play for south now is a small spade toward dummy|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|pbundy: OR winning the A or K of clubs and leading a diamond :)|pg|| nt|glenne: one side or other will play spades soon, pretty sure of that|pg|| nt|pbundy: yep|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d3|nt|glenne: seems like a heart discard, depending upon agreements, would clarify things.....|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h6|nt|pbundy: hemant running out of options here now....|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|nt|glenne: south playing 3 clubs in other room, which will fail for a few tricks if defense gets hearts started in time|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|pbundy: i must admit i am surprised at no spade shift. surely hemant does not have the AKJ of clubs, queen of hearts AND spade ace?|pg|| nt|glenne: down one a pretty good result on these cards|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|nt|glenne: guess he thinks might have spade jack?|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|pbundy: that is possible|pg|| pc|d2|nt|bobholl: migth even make :)|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|glenne: finally the spade echo...|pg|| nt|bobholl: @S now|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o74|st||md|4S752HAKQT5DKJTC84,SK3H9743DA8CJT763,SAQJ96H2D753CAKQ2,ST84HJ86DQ9642C95|sv|b|nt|joest: so al if you open 1@h as south and partner responds 1@s what do you rebid?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|joest: onthe last board I see north-south were in 2NT|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|joest: east never peeped and Passell had several chances to lead spades and never did|pg|| mb|4S|nt|joest: east-west could have done serious damage to that contract!|pg|| nt|joest: then of course there is the posibility of opening 1NT :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: okay says north|pg|| mb|p|nt|joest: everything sits quite nicely i would say|pg|| nt|ahollan1: [assuming you open 1N] with all points in the reds -- do you rebid 3@S or 3N over 3@C?|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: ruling out 3@H which implies worried about @D|pg|| nt|joest: I might bid 3@h|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: what would 4 spades right away over 3 clubs would show response good trumps|pg|| nt|joest: I would stay off 4@s nomatter what my hand to be honest|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|nt|joest: over 3@c that is|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: my guess is that 4@S would be worse hand than 3@S - but don't quote me|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hT|mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfc: pitch two diamonds on the five hearts i have made the heart way|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: hard|pg|| nt|joest: heat|pg|| nt|joest: heart|pg|| pg|| qx|c74|st||md|4S752HAKQT5DKJTC84,SK3H9743DA8CJT763,SAQJ96H2D753CAKQ2,ST84HJ86DQ9642C95|sv|b|nt|pbundy: i'm impressed|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|asking|mb|p|nt|pbundy: ira is wondering if he should make a slam try - OR if hemant has enough for him for game :) :)|pg|| mb|3D|an|3 spades Max|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|pbundy: assuming that they ultimately use some sort of ace asking - unlikely to get to slam. they'll find they are off 2 keycards|pg|| mb|4D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|pbundy: when i first learned keycard, my partners and i kept on getting it wrong.....|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|pbundy: of course, after the diamond double, n/s now hoping that they can make game!|pg|| nt|pbundy: give west AQ of diamonds with length and carolyn with Kxx of spades - they'd be down in 4|pg|| mb|p|nt|pbundy: BUT - we'd get to slam on a hook (that made) or they wouldn't cash their two aces.... we thought that this keycard was quite slick!|pg|| mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|pbundy: ira won't be pleased to see this layout - tho i highly doubt that the other table will get to slam, either|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|mc|12|pg|| qx|o75|st||md|1S5HQT42DK94CAKQJ8,SATH93DAT7653C653,SK96432HKJDQJCT42,SQJ87HA8765D82C97|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfc: hoping ron had singleton club|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: final 15 of the SemiFinal scheduled to begin in 45 minutes|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|joest: 2@c both minors but ambigous respective lengths|pg|| mb|2S|nt|joest: several ways for Wold to go|pg|| nt|joest: 2@s seems most practical|pg|| nt|ahollan1: notice 2@C with only 3@D IS allowed with specifically 1435|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: some pairs will also allow 1444 to rebid 2@C|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: the is the last board of this set|pg|| nt|joest: yes this is the 'death pattern' for this particular sequence|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: thanks to the USBF BBO jan Martel the directors and the players for this event|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru 71 Meltzer 54-13 set leads Simson by 80|pg|| nt|joest: that match may be over|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: 15 more boards of this semifinal should start after a short break|pg|| nt|joest: this one is certainly not|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|nt|joest: so resting in 2@s with 25 highs but both partners had difficult calls|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: tomorrow's Daily Bulletin is supposed to explain the committee ruling that advanced Meltzer into SemiFinal [over Kasle]|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: or was that Lynch v Kasle??|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|nt|joest: Wold trying to sneak the heart jack gthrough|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| nt|joest: was going to overtake with the queen and pitch one red king on the other red king|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i should have mentioned 1@S denies 4+@H UNLESS game force|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dT|nt|joest: ice dn|pg|| nt|joest: nice|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so Jacobus 2@H reverse becomes an artificial @S raise |pg|| nt|joest: ruff overruff|pg|| nt|joest: and then a promo via the heart|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|joest: to make this wold had to go over the dummy and play trumps at once|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|nt|joest: this is maximum punishment|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|joest: ok thanks all|pg|| nt|joest: thank al|pg|| mc|7|nt|joest: and you too Debbie! nice job!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: break back in a few|pg|| pg|| qx|c75|st||md|1S5HQT42DK94CAKQJ8,SATH93DAT7653C653,SK96432HKJDQJCT42,SQJ87HA8765D82C97|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|pbundy: this is part of the danger of opening light. partner is afraid to investigate slam, for fear the 3 level is not safe.|pg|| mc|10|nt|pbundy: of course, opening light DOES have its benefits on many hands :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfu: last hand for this segment; hope to see you again in about half an hour. Thanks much to our great commentators,|pg|| nt|pbundy: thanks joe - see everyone soon|pg|| pg||