vg|Neighbour Challenge 2013,Round Robin 6 of 6,I,1,36,Netherlands,0,Sweden,0| rs|3HE-2,3HE-1,2HS+1,4DE=,4SN+1,4SN+1,4SE=,4SEx=,3NS+1,3NS+1,3NW=,3NE+1,3NW=,3NW+1,4HW-1,4HE=,4SS-1,3SS=,2CS-1,3CS-1,4SW-1,4SW-1,4HW=,4HW-1,2NN=,3NS=,2SE-1,2SE-1,3CN-1,3SW-1,PASS,2CW+1,3NE-1,3SE-2,4SN=,4SN=,2HE-1,2DN+1,1CW-2,1NW-1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,| pn|Michielsen,Bertheau,Wortel,Larsson,Grönkvist,Simons,Rimstedt,Pasman|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3ST43H6DA54CAQ8432,SKQ92H3DKQJT3CKJ6,SAJ76HKT87D9872C9,S85HAQJ9542D6CT75|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Trumps broke, but it did not make|pg|| nt|nilsland: I guess it didnt make?|pg|| mb|p|nt|nilsland: East will bid some heart|pg|| mb|3H|nt|nilsland: and West will not like it|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzcm: same auction in the closed room|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Her cards are useless opposite a pre-empt|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: standard auction at all four table -- I predict|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: tables |pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|nilsland: 7 or 8 tricks?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Peter Crouch|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Hi Peter - welcome :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Peter would have opened 4@H I bet|pg|| nt|nilsland: I think 3N has better chances than 3H :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: scores before this last match: http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6982|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|pitiful: hi all|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|pitiful: not second in hand i wouldn't Roland|pg|| nt|nilsland: defence can take two club ruffs and @DA for one quick down|pg|| nt|bobholl: and than still has to finesse @H :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: @dA in hand|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: but not played yet|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: S put it down again|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|nilsland: better an Ace in hand twen two in the woods|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Now it can make double dummy, but I don't think it will|pg|| nt|nilsland: now declare makes this with deep finesse|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: convention cards are here: or at this link:) : http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6981|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I am not absolutely sure they are using deep finesse in this event Mats :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: A heart to the nine Jessica - what are you thinking about?|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d4|pc|s2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|nilsland: back to 2 down|pg|| pc|c2|pc|dT|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3ST43H6DA54CAQ8432,SKQ92H3DKQJT3CKJ6,SAJ76HKT87D9872C9,S85HAQJ9542D6CT75|sv|o|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|h7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|h8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S8HK953D96CK86532,S62HQT84DAKT42CAQ,SAKJ94HAJ72DQCJT7,SQT753H6DJ8753C94|sv|n|nt|vugraphzcm: and Netherlands in front 2-0|pg|| mb|p|nt|nilsland: as long as it is not fotball (soccer) 2-0 isnt that terrible|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|nilsland: but we need ZLATAN here|pg|| mb|2C!|an|majors|nt|Walddk2: I like 1NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzcm: 2@c = majors|pg|| mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: 14-16|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: a popular range in Sweden|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: in 3rd position it is ok to have this kind of handm|pg|| nt|pitiful: e-w sold out too early|pg|| nt|pitiful: east might have bid 2@s|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 1nt opening in the closed room too -- but after interference from N with 2@c (majors like here) E bid 2@d natural|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Larsson wasn't interested after Wortel showed majors|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and then EW competed until 4@d making 10|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Walddk2: Maybe she should have tried 2@D|pg|| nt|nilsland: 4H is not a bad contract|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Easier for us|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h2|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: to all of you asking for scores -- here they are: http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6982|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: thats the results before this last match|pg|| nt|nilsland: West is thinking about continuing @D|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: as you might have noticed the new VP-scale is used in the event|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| nt|nilsland: South is showing her hand|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: S shows her cards to East -- and negotiating is going on|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: all four players take part in the talking|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and decision: 2@h just made|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4S8HK953D96CK86532,S62HQT84DAKT42CAQ,SAKJ94HAJ72DQCJT7,SQT753H6DJ8753C94|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2C!|nt|vugraphzea: sorry, i was just guessing :)|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|nt|vugraphzea: seems EW reached the limit here|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|c2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|d8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SKT3HQJ862DQJ6CK2,SQ9H953DK953CA954,SAJ764HTDA87CQJ86,S852HAK74DT42CT73|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: The new VP scale may be fairer, but it sure is complicated for the majority of bridge players: regular club players|pg|| nt|nilsland: agreed Roland|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: no problems -- decided for 2@h plus 1 - sorry|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|nilsland: 4S making 5 seems to be maximum what you can get|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Here is the new scale ....|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge.org/Data/Sites/1/media/documents/regulations/WBFVPscales.pdf|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: In closed room East led QC7|pg|| nt|nilsland: @C7|pg|| nt|Walddk2: For some reason the WBF has left out 24 and 28 boards|pg|| nt|nilsland: you worry to much Roland - take a glass of wine|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: but it is "pure" matematics to calculate -- if you got the right formula|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I only drink skimmed milk|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I have one at home :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: I should have guessed that|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|nilsland: I think it is good bridge not automaticly lead from AK|pg|| nt|nilsland: it took me 3 years to teach that to Bjørn Fallenius :)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Walddk2: no ö key?|pg|| nt|nilsland: I am in copenhagen Roland|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|nilsland: sitting behind Meike Wortel|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Mats is commentating LIVE from Copenhagen today|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: a new feature on BBO -- commenator live at the table|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d2|nt|Walddk2: My £1 keyboard has ö ä å|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c9|pg|| nt|nilsland: and I though 11 was maximum|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|h2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d7|nt|nilsland: maybe it was only 11?|pg|| pc|h4|pc|sT|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SKT3HQJ862DQJ6CK2,SQ9H953DK953CA954,SAJ764HTDA87CQJ86,S852HAK74DT42CT73|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|vugraphzea: they may get to 4@s and win it, but i think 3nt is a better contract|pg|| mb|2C!|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|relay|mb|p|mb|3N|an|pick a game (5!s)|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|doktrin: hi all :)|pg|| pc|c2|nt|doktrin: http://www2.bridge.dk/Admin/Public/DWSDownload.aspx?File=%2fFiles%2fFiler%2fLandshold%2fConvention+cards%2fWBF_Kathrine-Jessica.pdf|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|doktrin: http://www2.bridge.dk/Admin/Public/DWSDownload.aspx?File=%2fFiles%2fFiler%2fLandshold%2fConvention+cards%2frimstedt-gronkvist.pdf|pg|| nt|doktrin: these are the CC's of Swedish pairs |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|doktrin: Dutch "Anneke Simons & Jet Pasman" pair is playing: http://www2.bridge.dk/Admin/Public/DWSDownload.aspx?File=%2fFiles%2fFiler%2fLandshold%2fConvention+cards%2fSy...|pg|| nt|doktrin: stemcard+Anneke+Simons-Jet+Pasman.pdf|pg|| nt|doktrin: http://www2.bridge.dk/Admin/Public/DWSDownload.aspx?File=%2fFiles%2fFiler%2fLandshold%2fConvention+cards%2fSystemcard+Anneke+Simons-Jet+Pasman.pdf|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S9HQJ32DA32CAKQ82,SJ8652HTDKJ987C53,SQTH9654DT654CJ74,SAK743HAK87DQCT96|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|Walddk2: Not impossible that we see the same result at this table|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzcm: on the same route so far|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: but S passes here|pg|| mb|p|nt|nilsland: I am not sure I would bid again|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Walddk2: Well judged|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: @h2 in hand|pg|| nt|nilsland: as soon as declarer gets in this will be over|pg|| nt|bobholl: funny if east had a small @D iso Q overtrick more likely :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: but would you really ever lead a @D from !Q here Bob|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Hi Bob -- welcome -- now we have a dutch commentator and a swede too :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|mc|10|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2S9HQJ32DA32CAKQ82,SJ8652HTDKJ987C53,SQTH9654DT654CJ74,SAK743HAK87DQCT96|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|doktrin: when they open 1@S it shows a 5+ cards, but 1@H openings are 4+ for Ducth pair...|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: 4@s can be beaten if S plays 3x@c|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzea: second double was yet another takeout double|pg|| pc|cA|nt|vugraphzea: I'm confident Ida (S) will find the defence|pg|| pc|c3|nt|vugraphzea: oh it cant|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: sorry|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: its always home|pg|| nt|doktrin: its safe|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: my bad|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|doktrin: claim time|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3S96HKJDAKTCA86532,S85HQ643D962CKQJ4,SAQJT7HA952DJ5CT7,SK432HT87DQ8743C9|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|an|forcing|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: same contract - shorter bidding|pg|| nt|bobholl: meike (wortel) and marion (michielsen) play 2 nt forcing in this situation |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|nt|nilsland: Meike takes a brake and Steen Møller is the new dummy|pg|| nt|bobholl: nice 9 :)|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|nilsland: not even that will risk the contract|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|nilsland: declarer can even see 9 sure tricks|pg|| pc|sT|nt|nilsland: Jessica Larsson cant see that declarer can see 9 sure tricks...|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: you sit right beside her Mats -- and you talk the same language -- cant you tell her :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: so that we can go on :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: there is a dinner party after the match :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: I can but that would be unfair - she may find a way to beat it|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: oh yes -- just because you cant see a way to beat -- then she might :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: by persuading declarer to play for overtricks or something|pg|| nt|bobholl: with the new VP scale every imp counts so overtrick still important|pg|| nt|nilsland: she is looking really smart and focused|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|s3|nt|nilsland: studies dummy down to the pricks in the cards|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cT|nt|bobholl: now the @D finesse is free|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|bobholl: or play on @C :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: dont mind my frensch|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: S shows her cards -- and not much negotiations this time - claiming 10 tricks|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3S96HKJDAKTCA86532,S85HQ643D962CKQJ4,SAQJT7HA952DJ5CT7,SK432HT87DQ8743C9|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|doktrin: 2@C is: a) Inv 6+. b) GF 5+. or bal,|pg|| mb|p|nt|doktrin: here it's (b.)|pg|| mb|2S!|an|relay|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|relay|mb|p|mb|3H!|an|5-4-2-2 min|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| nt|doktrin: a. safely return the @S loser or b. aggressive @H defence?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d4|pc|c5|pc|h3|pg|| nt|doktrin: better to give hand to west by playing @C|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d3|nt|doktrin: yepp|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hK|nt|doktrin: masterplay|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|hA|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST865432HK3D74CJ2,SAJ9H6DKJTCAKT753,SKHAQT954DQ982CQ6,SQ7HJ872DA653C984|sv|e|mb|p|nt|nilsland: so it almost worked - only 2 tricks from one down|pg|| nt|nilsland: ¨|pg|| mb|3S|mb|3N|nt|Walddk2: 3@S in 2nd, wow|pg|| nt|bobholl: buuuutttt NV vs V|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: You in shock, Peter?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|pitiful: are you a 4@s bidder then roland?|pg|| nt|nilsland: West wasnt bothered|pg|| nt|pitiful: i am fairly sound in 2nd seat|pg|| nt|nilsland: is there a risk for a spade finesse now?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and a fast board here?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I like 3@S in 1st and 3rd at these colours, maybe not 2nd|pg|| nt|sybarra: but these are agressive gals Roland |pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: in the new VP-scale every trick counts -- but to risk to go down for an overtrick?|pg|| nt|nilsland: Maike is leading @HA|pg|| pc|hA|nt|nilsland: should South unblock?|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not with Jxxx in dummy|pg|| nt|nilsland: why not - if partner has AQ109 it is the only chance|pg|| pc|h4|nt|nilsland: and a entry|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|nilsland: say the @CK instead of the Q|pg|| nt|nilsland: I think that was a mistake from Marion - but wont cost|pg|| nt|nilsland: sry Meike not Maike of couurse|pg|| nt|nilsland: dont know what declarers problem is - seems obvious to dicard a spade|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Michielsen does not know that declarer has 9 tricks, so why do you want to set up @HJ for her if that is her 9th?|pg|| nt|nilsland: Yes Roland|pg|| nt|nilsland: In my opinion Michelsen should have unblocked - yes|pg|| nt|bobholl: declarer doesn't know @C are 22 :)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Thats makes life a lot easier --- says Bertheau after two rounds of @cs|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|c9|pc|s4|pg|| nt|nilsland: now spade finess?|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|mc|9|nt|nilsland: and 9 tricks|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST865432HK3D74CJ2,SAJ9H6DKJTCAKT753,SKHAQT954DQ982CQ6,SQ7HJ872DA653C984|sv|e|nt|vugraphzea: I couldnt agree more :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|doktrin: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|doktrin: http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6981|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|nt|doktrin: devil puts the @SK on Norths hand :)|pg|| nt|doktrin: it was supposed to be the only High Card on South's hand ;-)|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: Grönkvist could have opened multi 2@s or 3@s if she had the King, so I think E knows|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|s8|nt|vugraphzea: multi 2@d obv|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cT|nt|doktrin: @H9 is a good try instead of T :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|d3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|hT|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|doktrin: is @SQ discard preparing a finesse? :)|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|doktrin: never on team match|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SQT4HQT85D97643CA,SAK9HA964DK85CT75,S8532HKJ32DCJ8432,SJ76H7DAQJT2CKQ96|sv|b|nt|bobholl: another imp for "US" :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: What is that Zia rule? When they dont cover...|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: an imp a day keeps the doctor away Bob :)O|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: 1NT 14-16|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: http://info.ecatsbridge.com/Systems/2012europeanteams-dublin/womensteams/sweden/bertheau-larsson.pdf|pg|| nt|nilsland: 4333 is bad but Aces and Kings are good|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|nilsland: East-West has probably discussed now how to bid over 1N-2N transfer|pg|| mb|p|nt|nilsland: but East takes another path|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3@C is MSS|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Minor Suit Stayman|pg|| nt|pitiful: i think the key to the east hand is the @h shortage|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: E placed the 3@c bid on the tray -- but was not absolutely sure about it -- but ended with it |pg|| mb|3D!|nt|pitiful: swap opener's rounded suits|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|nilsland: true then 3N will go down and 6@C may make|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|pitiful: quite common for many partnerships to be able to show both minors and a shortage|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c6|pg|| nt|pitiful: i know it tips off lead for defence but...|pg|| nt|nilsland: on hands like this you better use stayman to avoid a heart lead :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: but what do you bid if P bids 2 @H 3nt ? she will correct to 4@S :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: but now hearts are 44 and the loss is only another imp|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| nt|nilsland: it was a joke bob|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|c2|pg|| nt|nilsland: or you have to play non promising stayman|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s5|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|nilsland: can declarer go wrong?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|h9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|s7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SQT4HQT85D97643CA,SAK9HA964DK85CT75,S8532HKJ32DCJ8432,SJ76H7DAQJT2CKQ96|sv|b|nt|Chick: Hello Yahya, Matias, and everyone :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|doktrin: hello Cornelia, welcome :)|pg|| mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|doktrin: Matias is doing great over there, as my first news to you :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: hello cornelia :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: thanks Yahya|pg|| nt|doktrin: 1@C alert is: 3+|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|doktrin: their CC shows: 1NT:14-17, prpbably didnt like her 14|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dK|nt|doktrin: swedish pair leads: 3rd from even, low from odd and simply 1 3 5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s5|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h3|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAJTH75DKQ643CK63,S52HAKQJT432DJC74,SKQ74H986D975CA92,S9863HDAT82CQJT85|sv|o|nt|vugraphzcm: How did 4@h win in the other room?|pg|| nt|pitiful: s this a weak 2 for you Roland?|pg|| nt|bobholl: nice result for ew in other room|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pitiful: i know you would open an Acol 2 if you could...|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I think I pass, Peter|pg|| nt|nilsland: it was trump lead followed by a lot of trumps|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Walddk2: I can't make 4@H so pass looks best|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|nilsland: looks like Cilla made a mistake - but East was declarer so the club suit was hidden|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d2|nt|nilsland: with West declaring there is no hope for a dacapo|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|d8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|s7|pc|cT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|h3|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAJTH75DKQ643CK63,S52HAKQJT432DJC74,SKQ74H986D975CA92,S9863HDAT82CQJT85|sv|o|nt|Chick: perfect 4@h bid that will fail|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|doktrin: 4@C is NAMYAT|pg|| nt|doktrin: better than 4@H|pg|| pc|h7|nt|Chick: haven't seen namyats used in a long time|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|s5|nt|doktrin: they play 4@C as strong @H 4@D as strong @S 4@H and 4@S responses shows no interest on slam|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|Chick: hmmm, someone forgot to cash their spade tricks|pg|| nt|doktrin: 4@D to 4@C is slam invite, likewise 4@H to 4@D :)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAQ9762H63DAQ86CK,SK5HQ75DK974C9862,SJ843HAJT94DJ5CT4,STHK82DT32CAQJ753|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|nilsland: the dutch ladies are playing well and the swedish ladies have not yet found a way to answer|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not a bad 4@S, but two keycards wrong|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: there are as said before no fat ladies in the room -- but I am willing to bet on a win in the event for the Netherlands|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|mixed raise 7-9hcp 4!s|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I would like to be in 4 when looking at the N-S cards only|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 3@c = mixed raise|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 4@s and 7-9hcp|pg|| nt|nilsland: now - please - give us some imps!!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You'll get them|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| nt|bobholl: you'll get them now :) 2 i guess|pg|| nt|Henryb: One of the problems with "short" clubs: West can't raise to 2@c|pg|| pc|d3|nt|Walddk2: Right, play Acol!'|pg|| pc|d6|nt|Henryb: I would raise playing standard|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|nt|nilsland: in this case it would not matter - and sometimes the club fit is not worth finding when you have xxxx|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h3|nt|bobholl: sry 5 is better counted|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| mc|9|nt|FRM: Bad luck - east opened the bidding but both vital kings placed in west:( |pg|| nt|Henryb: true enough, but there certainly could be hands on which it was right to compete|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAQ9762H63DAQ86CK,SK5HQ75DK974C9862,SJ843HAJT94DJ5CT4,STHK82DT32CAQJ753|sv|e|nt|doktrin: nice method|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Chick: its ok for matchpoints where you are ONLY interested in major suits|pg|| mb|1S|nt|Chick: but for imps, it gives up too much on minor suit hands|pg|| mb|2C|mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|Chick: fit jump I presume|pg|| nt|Chick: some use 3N as a minor preempt in this situation, but that has to give up precision on strong NT openings .... there simply aren't enough bids to do everything :)|pg|| mb|3S|an|3h not alerted on by S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|doktrin: 1@S - 3@H is natural invite... |pg|| nt|Chick: in spades or hearts?|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d2|nt|doktrin: unfortunately on @Hs i guess.... otherwise S would alert it|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d4|nt|Chick: seems to be a missed understanding here somewhere ... if 3@H was invitational, S would sure accept|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|mc|9|nt|doktrin: it was taken as a natural invite on @Hs and no support on @Ss... maybe she decided to give N an extra chance by not passing that 3@H|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKJ87HA742D532CA5,SA952HKQJ9DAJ98C3,SQT3H5DK764CKQT86,S64HT863DQTCJ9742|sv|b|mb|p|nt|nilsland: I will not argue with that Henry|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|d|mb|r|mb|1H|nt|nilsland: Netherlands can stand some bad luck|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|Henryb: Or look at the N hand here without one of the queens |pg|| nt|pitiful: redouble looks wierd unless trying to slow auction down|pg|| nt|pitiful: i would have raised to 2@h as werst|pg|| nt|pitiful: west|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: The Netherlands has won 4 of their first five matches |pg|| nt|Henryb: forced by the short club|pg|| nt|Walddk2: What would you bid opposite 2+, Peter?|pg|| nt|nilsland: I may have raised to 2H even after the RD|pg|| nt|pitiful: anybody elase|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzcm: only loss was against Germany yesterday -- and a very small loss that was|pg|| nt|pitiful: well if not playing transfers i would bid 1@d|pg|| nt|Walddk2: That would show hearts|pg|| mb|p|nt|Henryb: And that would help how?|pg|| nt|pitiful: much prefer to play transfers ater 1@c double|pg|| nt|Walddk2: her alternative was 1@S|pg|| pc|hK|nt|pitiful: then i would bid 1@s|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: scores are at this link: http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6982|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Henryb: Looks like this comes home with five club tricks and one in each side suit|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1@S would be a transfer to 1NT. Then what do you do next?|pg|| nt|Henryb: as long as declarer ruffs a heart now|pg|| nt|pitiful: oh sorry Roland, i assume 1@s would show 5=@c|pg|| nt|pitiful: +|pg|| nt|nilsland: 2@C to show both minors|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No, balanced or diamonds|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Unless followed by clubs|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|pitiful: so you agree with redouble then?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|Walddk2: No, I bid 1@S followed by clubs|pg|| nt|pitiful: if west had raised north would have been forced to bid 3@C|pg|| nt|Henryb: I think it is forced by system|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|pitiful: imagine redoubling and then 2@h pass 3@h|pg|| nt|pitiful: now what?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I don't redouble when I know opps have a safe haven|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: Redouble implies a misfit for partner's suit|pg|| nt|pitiful: i am with you Roland, but i prefer to play redouble a s@d|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|pitiful: @d|pg|| nt|Walddk2: That's playable, agreed|pg|| nt|pitiful: pass and bid again with balanced traditional redouble|pg|| nt|pitiful: double shows 4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h9|nt|pitiful: anyway back to the asylum|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|Walddk2: lol|pg|| nt|pitiful: lots of 1940's acol players there Roland, you would know them..|pg|| nt|nilsland: declarer wants 4 club tricks and @DK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d2|nt|nilsland: and would be granted that|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: W asking about NS nt openings|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: so that W is able to calculate the hcp in the south hand|pg|| nt|nilsland: club 5 is guarding |pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|vugraphzcm: NS play 15-17 nt vul|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: Yes, when I was born I got "All About Acol" as my birthday present. It's in the Acol Museum now|pg|| nt|nilsland: but not anymore|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|nt|Henryb: now down|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|hT|nt|nilsland: she had to play diamonds after the K|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|sK|pc|hJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKJ87HA742D532CA5,SA952HKQJ9DAJ98C3,SQT3H5DK764CKQT86,S64HT863DQTCJ9742|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|d|mb|1S!|mb|p|nt|doktrin: coz i dont know anyone who will not accept the spade invite :)|pg|| mb|1N|an|12-14|mb|d|nt|Chick: E isn't thrilled to have to bid on this hand :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: she doesnt yet :)|pg|| nt|doktrin: she will not :p|pg|| nt|doktrin: coz N will bid i guess|pg|| nt|Chick: If N passes, E will bid 2@H obviously, but will W stop there?|pg|| nt|doktrin: for sure she will stop :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: this hand can turn out interesting im sure|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: If N bids clubs E will want to double|pg|| mb|2S!|an|both minors 9-11|nt|doktrin: and pass now ;-) no worries|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|Chick: N and S are sure bidding a lot on junky hands|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: Eh...|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: who has a junky hand?|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: the normal 12-14 nt|pg|| nt|doktrin: east :)))|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: or the 4-5 minors with 10|pg|| nt|Chick: S has no intermediates|pg|| nt|doktrin: and she is doing good by perpetual passes :)|pg|| nt|Chick: N has poor controls|pg|| mb|p|nt|doktrin: i dont agree, she tried her chances for game i believe|pg|| mb|p|nt|Chick: and both of them have bid 3 times already, in the face of a strong takeout double by W|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c5|nt|vugraphzea: but i believe E forgot to double|pg|| nt|doktrin: bye the way their 1@C is: 12-14/18-19 balanced or natural|pg|| pc|s2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|Chick: NS are very lucky not to have been doubled, with no place to run|pg|| nt|doktrin: and they have longer @D even when they open 1@C|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|doktrin: they (may have)*|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Chick: and the X's should also have warned them about a bad club split|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sK|nt|Chick: this is an auction that screams "get out early" :)|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|h8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: from Ns point of view EW have a 8-card fit in @h|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: she WANTS to compete|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: and 2S is a good bid showing both minors and a good hand|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|nt|doktrin: i agree it was a good hand|pg|| nt|Chick: its the "good hand" part that I don't care for :)|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|sQ|pc|c7|pc|h7|pg|| mc|8|nt|doktrin: ok she could rdbl the second double with a weaker hand i guess|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: on this particular board with the worst possible split and worst possible fit they went down 1|pg|| nt|Chick: well, she managed to hold it to -1, so may not be terrible|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S64HQ9842D84CQ732,SAQJ982HT75DQT9CA,SK5HJ6DAK3CJT9654,ST73HAK3DJ7652CK8|sv|o|mb|p|nt|vugraphzcm: a @d ruff to beat 4@s|pg|| nt|Henryb: Or ruff a heart at trick 2, play a spade to the J and lead a diamond|pg|| mb|2S!|an|10-13 6!ss|nt|nilsland: try 3NT|pg|| mb|3C|mb|4S|nt|Walddk2: 4@S was a quick 1 down in the other room|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: good idea Mats -- but too late now|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Three rounds of diamonds|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|Walddk2: Nice to have the 4 when you play reverse attitude|pg|| nt|bobholl: will be duplicated here i guess (and hope)|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: played in the E hand it would have been a little easier to give the contract away|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|pitiful: do you think north should overcall opposite a passed partner and how close is south to bidding 5@c|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|Henryb: no and very|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: a nice @dQ here -- but N does not fall for such a trick -- does she?|pg|| nt|nilsland: not close at all with 5422 and nothing |pg|| nt|pitiful: that was my view henry|pg|| nt|Walddk2: South would not encourage from xxx4|pg|| pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: or xx4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h5|nt|nilsland: maybe white against red though|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|nt|pitiful: are you a 3@c overcaller Mats?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Peter asking because he would overcall|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S64HQ9842D84CQ732,SAQJ982HT75DQT9CA,SK5HJ6DAK3CJT9654,ST73HAK3DJ7652CK8|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3C!|nt|doktrin: 2@C or pass?|pg|| mb|4C|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Chick: 2@C for me|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|doktrin: killer lead|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJ86HT742DQJ52CT8,SQT32HAKQ86D843C6,SK97HJD976CAQ7532,SA54H953DAKTCKJ94|sv|n|nt|pitiful: i would not overcall opposite passed partner|pg|| nt|pitiful: i would otherwise|pg|| nt|pitiful: i would pass 4@s but close to 5@c|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: A kibitzer (Peter Bertheau) says that @d4 could have been count and not encouraging|pg|| nt|pitiful: certainly at green i would|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I dont know the NS signals |pg|| mb|1H|nt|nilsland: I agree with Peter|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|an|forcing|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: On the card it reads lo-hi enc on partner's leads|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: so the 4 was an attitude signal|pg|| nt|Henryb: Now I would bid 2N (forcing) as East, not 3@h|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: ok Roland -- then easy :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: Hegge makes a point - maybe better to keep the @DQ if S may signal also for Qxx|pg|| pc|d6|nt|nilsland: but with Jxxxx in dummy i doubt it|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: still need 4 boards after this one|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|nilsland: Giving count with xxxx is better done with second lowest (playing UDCA)|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| nt|Henryb: Declarer should play second heart before club after honor drops|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|Henryb: Now she doesn't know whether to hook or play for drop|pg|| nt|nilsland: declarer must guess the spades |pg|| nt|Henryb: Is that enough? I guess so. lose spade, club, heart|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: It is not fast -- but it is intense|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dT|nt|nilsland: it is complicated now|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: @s8 in Ss hand|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I think she plays a @s|pg|| pc|s8|nt|Henryb: I think a fourth diamond always beats it now|pg|| nt|nilsland: but still makable with a spade return|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 2nd/4th through declarer ? -- asks W|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and S says yes|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|nilsland: a diamond was maybe better - but not for SWEDEN|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|s2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c7|nt|Henryb: Aesthetics, Mats|pg|| pc|s4|pc|hT|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJ86HT742DQJ52CT8,SQT32HAKQ86D843C6,SK97HJD976CAQ7532,SA54H953DAKTCKJ94|sv|n|nt|doktrin: praying for single !K and playing Ace or finessing?|pg|| nt|doktrin: i wd go with the former one|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|doktrin: overcall with weak clubs shows a length and 3 cards of @Ds makes 9-10 cards|pg|| nt|doktrin: so i dont agree the finesse even it doesnt change the score in this case|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: Cilla claimed, i just played|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: north|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|nt|doktrin: Ida likes the lead :)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: this board may turn out more interesting than at first glance|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c2|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|doktrin: @H now|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d9|nt|doktrin: @HQ @SA @CK @S|pg|| nt|doktrin: is the line simons will follow|pg|| pc|s4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|d8|nt|doktrin: 3/4|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|nt|doktrin: bets please :)|pg|| nt|Chick: 10|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: down|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: Q|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|dT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sT|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SAT7HK6DJ98CAKT97,S832HJT53DQ643C65,S964HA942DAT52C42,SKQJ5HQ87DK7CQJ83|sv|b|nt|nilsland: we really needed that :)|pg|| nt|Henryb: I root for winning bridge on the particular hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|nilsland: can NS find 3N after this?|pg|| mb|d|nt|Henryb: pretty tough, I think|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|bobholl: or double a ew contract|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 2@c is not Nilslands slinkningar ?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Do they play Nilsland's defence, Mats? :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|r|nt|nilsland: how would I know?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: ask them, are you not there?|pg|| nt|bobholl: looks like rimmington wriggle redouble = red|pg|| nt|nilsland: but it is possible - in that case RD is red suits|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I love watching these auctions -- |pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridgeguys.com/Conventions/NilslandDefenseNTX.html|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: E is really under preasure here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Devised by Mats about 100 years ago|pg|| mb|2S|nt|nilsland: or they have their own variation |pg|| nt|Henryb: A fine 12 count according to Kaplan&Rubens|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: as I said - I love watching - not having them myself|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: now we will have a spade lead against 3N|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and now North will bid??|pg|| nt|bobholl: hope X :)|pg|| nt|Henryb: maybe N X and N-S ger about 8 tricks on defense?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: of course she will bid -- they are in a forcing sequence -- but what would be your choise?|pg|| nt|Henryb: DOUBLE|pg|| nt|nilsland: double is hazardous when partner may have 2|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|nilsland: this cant be forcing or?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and another 2nt without a stopper in the oponents suit -- we saw Rimstedt doing the same in the previous match|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: when I try it -- always wrong|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|nilsland: so we have a new leader?|pg|| nt|Henryb: I prefer X to 2N. We have the balance of power; I have two aces and shortness in a suit where partner is clearly long|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: without a doubt Mats|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|Henryb: Not down yet|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 15 minutes left of the match|pg|| nt|nilsland: I prefer that they dont double the Swedish ladies|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: three boards left after this one|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| nt|Henryb: Seems to me that declarer has 3@d, 3@c and AKA in majors|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| nt|Henryb: Ah, 2N, I was thinking 3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d6|pc|d2|nt|nilsland: now only 8 tricks|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|h2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|mc|8|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SAT7HK6DJ98CAKT97,S832HJT53DQ643C65,S964HA942DAT52C42,SKQJ5HQ87DK7CQJ83|sv|b|nt|vugraphzea: some N players would bid with AQxxxx and a side king i think|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: and thats what she played Cilla not to have|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1N|nt|vugraphzea: but Cilla is a sound player|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|doktrin: @D lead could help a bit... from nothing...|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzea: i think we'll see a @h lead|pg|| pc|h3|nt|doktrin: formerbrd i mean|pg|| nt|doktrin: she could guess @SK from @D lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: ?|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: I dont think shed lead from Jxx|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: if she was xxx in another unbid suit|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: that W had denied in the bidding|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| nt|doktrin: early double finesse on @C will make it home|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|doktrin: noo|pg|| nt|doktrin: panic |pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|doktrin: !Q -1|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dT|nt|doktrin: she would pass @D5 :)|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|dA|nt|doktrin: now made|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|9|nt|doktrin: covering the second @D would make it down|pg|| nt|doktrin: easily|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4ST52HQ4DAT2CAJT82,SKQJH9863DQ985C43,S73HAT5DKJ643CQ95,SA9864HKJ72D7CK76|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|8-11 3!ss|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Henryb: Wouldn't you balance with 3@c after 1@s-2@s?|pg|| nt|Henryb: I would|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 2@s = 8-11 hcp, 3@ss|pg|| mb|p|pc|s2|nt|pitiful: i would|pg|| nt|nilsland: will go 1-2 down with this lead|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h3|nt|nilsland: 1 if she plays clubs 2 with heart|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|nilsland: or maybe only 1 sry|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: @h4 in hand now|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| nt|Henryb: looks like declarer has five spades and two hearts or six trumps and one heart|pg|| nt|nilsland: yes - a push for sure|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: If Sweden can hold NL here, Denmark has a chance of overtaking NL by defeating Germany. But that has to be pretty big|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|Walddk2: And Swedes would just love to help Danes|pg|| mc|7|nt|Walddk2: not|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4ST52HQ4DAT2CAJT82,SKQJH9863DQ985C43,S73HAT5DKJ643CQ95,SA9864HKJ72D7CK76|sv|o|nt|vugraphzea: Commentators rule no 1: Everything is much easier when you can see all 52 cards :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|doktrin: in this case N has no entrance and Wests @D6 is bigger than the last @D on dummy :) but that is a rule no one can deny ;-)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: Grönkvist going for the KILL|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: nice defence|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|doktrin: very|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|c8|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c2|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|h9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|doktrin: break after 18th board Matias?|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s8|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1ST8HA6543D7542CKJ,SKQ632HQ72DT9CQ86,SA5HJ8DKJ6CAT9543,SJ974HKT9DAQ83C72|sv|n|nt|nilsland: depends on what we are getting for dinner|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I am afraid Denmark need a huge win for Sweden in this match|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 14,32 VP behind before this round|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1S|mb|2C!|nt|nilsland: so Netherlands is already the winners - and well deserved imo|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and I cant se that to happen :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 1@D = hearts|pg|| nt|pitiful: 2@c denies 3@h i guess|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and it is a very well deserved victory for the Netherlands -- by far the best team in this weekend|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2@C shows 0-2 hearts, yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: yes|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|nt|nilsland: I would bid 3S on Easts hand over 2C|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|Henryb: looks like this should go down at least one|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|nt|nilsland: but that could be wrong|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|dK|pg|| nt|Henryb: partner is a passed hand, Nils|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: one board left after this one|pg|| nt|nilsland: yes Henry - I may have missed that |pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|nt|nilsland: it has been a long day|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: it is board 119 in the event|pg|| nt|Henryb: Banquet coming up?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: yes Henry :)|pg|| nt|Henryb: Looong day, Mats|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|bobholl: wow |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Henryb: not so long|pg|| nt|nilsland: it feels looooong|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1ST8HA6543D7542CKJ,SKQ632HQ72DT9CQ86,SA5HJ8DKJ6CAT9543,SJ974HKT9DAQ83C72|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1S|nt|doktrin: 1@C: 12-14/18-19 balanced or natural|pg|| nt|Chick: 1@D waiting, yahya?|pg|| nt|doktrin: they play transfers|pg|| mb|2C|nt|Chick: so 1@D shows 5 hearts?|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|doktrin: 1@D 4+@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|doktrin: 1@H 4+@S|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|doktrin: and finally 1@S is a) 6-11 no Major b) Inv+ bal w/o Major|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQT973H82DAJT5CK4,SAK542HQT3D4CQJ85,SJHK654DQ7632CA92,S86HAJ97DK98CT763|sv|e|nt|Henryb: reacting to misclick by Jan|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: You should be very welcome Henry|pg|| nt|nilsland: last dance coming up|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I just tried to put some exitement into this broadcast|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: to see if you all are awake|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Last board|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|5-12|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|"Gazzilli" like|nt|Henryb: its only 13:00 here|pg|| nt|bobholl: it worked :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|an|8-11hcp|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzcm: 2@s is @ss and at least 3@cs - and not forcing|pg|| pc|d2|nt|nilsland: the spade layout is annoying|pg|| nt|Henryb: and here, I guess, is one of the problems with Gazilli: can't get to clubs|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2@C known as Häxan (The Witch) in Sweden, the Swedish variation of Gazzilli|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s3|nt|Walddk2: Sure you can get to clubs playing Gazzilli|pg|| nt|nilsland: looks like 7 tricks is maximum :(|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You can't stop in 2@C if that is what you mean|pg|| nt|Henryb: easy in mine: 1@s-1N (nf) -2@c natural-P|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|nilsland: well anyway - thank you all for coming - see you around :)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Thanks everyone, especially Jan and the DBf|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Thank you to all the commentators - kibitzers - and especially to Mats Nilsland -- commentating LIVE from the table here in Copenhagen|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Henryb: And the Dutch win at the wire|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|mc|6|nt|Walddk2: Bye for now|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: bye all|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQT973H82DAJT5CK4,SAK542HQT3D4CQJ85,SJHK654DQ7632CA92,S86HAJ97DK98CT763|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|c5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|c8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| nt|doktrin: btw "Neighbour Challenge" is an invitational event designed to provide top level practice for the open and women's teams of each country|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|9|nt|doktrin: Denmark, Sweden, Germany and the Netherlands are those countries|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S3HAJ9765DQJ84CQ5,S842HK82DA73CJ973,ST975H3DKT95CKT42,SAKQJ6HQT4D62CA86|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|nilsland: welcome back we have just started|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzcm: Hi all -- welcome back to the last match in Neighbour Challenge 2013|pg|| nt|nilsland: heart lead easy - diamond lead difficult|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|vugraphzcm: scores after five matches: http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6982|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|nilsland: or even impossible?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: convention cards and infomation about the event is here: http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6981|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|nilsland: 4S is not making so 3N was a better shot if you want to be in game|pg|| nt|nilsland: and when you already are there it is too late to regret - just try to make it|pg|| nt|nilsland: with 9 or J singleton in N you could|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|nt|nilsland: but no such creature|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s2|pc|dT|nt|nilsland: now an endplay in clubs is the only possible chans|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|nilsland: but S can unblock is nescesarry|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|cK|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| nt|nilsland: and it cant work when defence already has 4 tricks|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S3HAJ9765DQJ84CQ5,S842HK82DA73CJ973,ST975H3DKT95CKT42,SAKQJ6HQT4D62CA86|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|doktrin: 2@D is: weak 6c M|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|doktrin: 2@H shows better @Hs than 2@D does|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|doktrin: like 2@S does for @Ss|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c6|pc|dJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s6|pc|d8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SAK97HAJ64DAQTCQ4,SQJ3H8D932CJ97632,S86542H753D74CKT8,STHKQT92DKJ865CA5|sv|n|nt|vugraphzcm: scores before the last match (20 boards): http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6982|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|nilsland: so welcome with your comments when you see that I am out in the blue|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|nilsland: south wants to invite east to bid more :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: we start with boards 17-18-19-20 here in the open room -- and then board 1-2-3-..... with results from the closed room to compare with|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|nilsland: it is not easy to make perfect analyses when everything is going on at the same time|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| nt|nilsland: if I am more wrong than right that could also be that you are wrong (god forbid)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: with 16 ladies in the room you are excused for some wrong analysis Mats -- |pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: :)|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| nt|nilsland: somehow declarer will get to the hand and finess diamonds|pg|| nt|nilsland: end of story|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: convention cards and other informations about the event can be found here: http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6981|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Negotiations going on at the table |pg|| nt|nilsland: claim|pg|| nt|nilsland: with diamond finess included|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and they decided for 10 tricks|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SAK97HAJ64DAQTCQ4,SQJ3H8D932CJ97632,S86542H753D74CKT8,STHKQT92DKJ865CA5|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzea: well bid Cilla|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: now you have to win it :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: sure it will go nicely|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Chick: nice play|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c7|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d2|pc|s8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S6HQ65DAT63CKT832,SQJ82HJ97DK52CA75,SAKT74H42DJ974CQ6,S953HAKT83DQ8CJ94|sv|e|mb|p|nt|nilsland: partscore but which side?|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: 2H alerted as non forcing and everybody is happy|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|nilsland: will be defeated 1 or 2 times|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|nilsland: guess club return |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|nilsland: three rounds of trump endplays south for 1 dwn|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://info.ecatsbridge.com/Systems/2008europeanchampionships-pau/womensteams/netherlands/michielsen-wortel.pdf|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://info.ecatsbridge.com/Systems/2012europeanteams-dublin/womensteams/sweden/bertheau-larsson.pdf|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: or at this link:) : http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6981|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: hi Roland :)|pg|| nt|nilsland: if Marion cashed the @C10 she is still endplayed|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Wortel took a break from woman bridge after 2008. After that, Michielsen has been playing with Laura Dekkers|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hi all|pg|| nt|nilsland: so maybe a small to ruff|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|s4|pg|| nt|nilsland: now 1 down is a better bet|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: scores before the last match (20 boards): http://www2.bridge.dk/Default.aspx?ID=6982|pg|| nt|nilsland: Steen Møller has arrived and sits behind Marion|pg|| nt|nilsland: but currently has no computer|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: so for once Steen is very quiet :)|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|nilsland: very strange indeed|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|hJ|mc|7|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S6HQ65DAT63CKT832,SQJ82HJ97DK52CA75,SAKT74H42DJ974CQ6,S953HAKT83DQ8CJ94|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|h8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SKQ93HT54DQ3CQ982,SAJ85HKQ62DA95CK3,S764HAJDK72CAT764,ST2H9873DJT864CJ5|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: I haven't come to terms with those decimals yet. It may take a while|pg|| nt|nilsland: he look very nice and kind - maybe I need glasses|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I am quiet sure you have to get used to it Roland -- I think they are here to stay :)|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|nilsland: Playing 1C on 2-2 is never fun|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: and a rather unusual contract |pg|| nt|nilsland: they should have the starting fee returned|pg|| pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: 5@C on 3-0 was no fun either earlier today|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Or 6@SX on 6-0 off @SAK for a start|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| nt|nilsland: I dont know if East is allowed to pass - do you really think you can make rules for female players??|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, don't bid majors and notrump|pg|| nt|nilsland: if they want to pass they pass|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|nilsland: Roland I guess you are not married?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not any more, true|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But we did not split up because she bid majors or notrump; she did not bid at all|pg|| nt|nilsland: no but your attitude Roland... :)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|d4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h2|nt|nilsland: 2 down is not so terrible with only 4 trumps|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d8|pc|c8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|c7|pc|h9|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The world record was set at this venue, 11 or 12 years ago, when several pairs played 4@H on 0-0|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SKQ93HT54DQ3CQ982,SAJ85HKQ62DA95CK3,S764HAJDK72CAT764,ST2H9873DJT864CJ5|sv|b|nt|vugraphzea: last board|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: thanks everyone for watching|pg|| nt|doktrin: 1NT: 14-17 for Dutch pair|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: it has been a pleasure to be me this weekend, watching a lot of lovely ladies play a lot of good bridge. all my warmest recomendations if you ever get the chance to get a job like ...|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: mine :)|pg|| nt|doktrin: if she doesnt open 1NT the second choice is 1@H|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|doktrin: lucky Matias :)|pg|| nt|doktrin: you did a good job wd|pg|| nt|vugraphzea: thanks you too|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d4|pc|c9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|c8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h7|pc|dQ|pc|h6|pg|| mc|6|pg||