vg|2010 Vanderbilt R16,Fourth Quarter,I,49,64,Nickell,69,Zimmermann,80| rs|3DW+1,1NE=,1NW+1,3SN+1,2HW+1,2NS-2,4HE-1,4HE-1,3DE=,3DE+1,4SS=,4SS=,3NN+1,3NN+1,4HN-1,3NN-3,1NN+1,1NN=,4SN+1,4SN+1,3NS=,3NS=,2CW+1,3NW-2,3NE-3,2NE-2,4HNx=,3HN-1,4SW-1,4SW-4,4HE=,4HE=| pn|Zia,Bessis T.,Hamman,Bessis M.,Helgemo,Meckstroth,Helness,Rodwell|pg|| qx|o49|st||md|3SQ6HJ84DA76CQT762,SA542HAK65D854C93,SJ973HQ732D92CAK8,SKT8HT9DKQJT3CJ54|sv|o|nt|jcwla: 1NT/E in the CR.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Both pairs play natural easy-to-understand systems|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 5-card majors, 15-17 NT|pg|| nt|xenya: we start with a quiet hand|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Since Nickell is down by 11 imps, we can expect some fireworks from Zia and a cracker of a match.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|jcwla: Odd.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: what is odd?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: 2@D may have been sufficient after the redouble i presume|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jcwla: Had a variety of ways to show the @D support -- not sure what this accomplished - or why 3@D.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| nt|fabsayc: would have been tough to make on a trump lead|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c49|st||md|3SQ6HJ84DA76CQT762,SA542HAK65D854C93,SJ973HQ732D92CAK8,SKT8HT9DKQJT3CJ54|sv|o|nt|daman: Hi Shirley and Vladimir|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: I didn't get the auction sorry|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|chick: and we're off for the 2nd quarter of this match :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: http://www.acbl.org/nabc/brackets/2010/01/vanderbilt/ for bracket sheet|pg|| nt|mdgraham: Good evening all|pg|| nt|dinos1: mb S opened?|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: The Nickell team is adept at recovering IMPs and this should be an interesting match.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|daman: EW might be coerced into sacrificing over 4@H|pg|| pc|cK|nt|sybarra: 2 @S should be good ht raise |pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|sybarra: not the worse sac in the world |pg|| nt|daman: cannot make 4@H|pg|| nt|daman: on a @C lead|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: chip's note says 3+@H and a lot more I can't read upside down|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Meckstroth asks about strength of 4@H; Michel expects less than an opening hand|pg|| nt|sybarra2: welcome back to Reno |pg|| nt|kareno: Declarer misguesses (looking for safety) at trick one. Now a club shift is imperative for the fourth trick.|pg|| nt|rodal f: Sr a bit late but hi all|pg|| nt|kareno: Shirley :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: noisy in here, not all matches have started play. at several tables players are explaining methods to their opponents|pg|| nt|kareno: Rodal :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: underlead @SA works too|pg|| nt|rodal f: Nice to see u all:)|pg|| nt|amr: you as well Rodal|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, but unlikely. There is no suit preference associated with the deuce lead.|pg|| nt|kareno: Allan ;)|pg|| nt|amr: good evening Karen and all the specs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth has his hands folded, looking down|pg|| nt|ahollan1: spec points out ANY card works -- because @D blocked|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: finally picks up his cards again|pg|| pc|cA|nt|daman: whack|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: sorry in a hurry trying to catch up once players arrived|pg|| pc|c5|nt|Vugraphzfe: all bids alerted|pg|| nt|harmon: John I told you slap them upside the head:)|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| nt|kareno: Got to get the club ace off the board - blocked or no it is an entry.|pg|| nt|panja: hi all|pg|| nt|kareno: Harmon :) Panja :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: the first board is always a rush, can't load the board until both tables are ready|pg|| pc|c8|nt|dinos1: strong @c, 1@d neg, 2@d - sort of raise?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue pulled out a bidding card, put it back and bid 3@C|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|Vugraphzfe: cheek using a card rack, doesnt bother sorting his hand|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cT|nt|bridge_one: Hello everyone from Italy|pg|| nt|xenya: ciao Giorgio|pg|| pc|s4|mc|8|nt|kareno: We really are privileged to be watching two of the best pairs in the world tonight!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: by the time I was allowed to load the board they had picked up the tray. anyway, was 1NT by E made 1|pg|| pg|| qx|o50|st||md|4SKQJ8HKJ92D975C82,SA7HA53DKQJ62CJ63,S9654HQ74DACKQ754,ST32HT86DT843CAT9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|jcwla: Note W's choice not to bid a major in fourth seat, just to bid the hand out normally.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 7 easy tricks, more on a club lead|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: 4@S should be bid and made here|pg|| nt|fabsayc: there was a squeeze for overtrick on last hand i believe|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, and it was recorded|pg|| nt|xenya: yes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Declarer ruffed a heart and squeezed Hamman in the process|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: tough to get there after the 1 nt opening|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: after a 1@D opening i guess Zia Hamman wd have got to the vul game|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c50|st||md|4SKQJ8HKJ92D975C82,SA7HA53DKQJ62CJ63,S9654HQ74DACKQ754,ST32HT86DT843CAT9|sv|n|nt|daman: I was dong Irish jigs until 2 a.m. paying for it now|pg|| nt|daman: doing*|pg|| nt|sybarra2: http://www.acbl.org/nabc/brackets/2010/01/vanderbilt/|pg|| nt|hlortz: yay my internet is back! hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Henry :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|an|"14-16"|nt|ahollan1: 1N=14-16|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 3@s-4@s|pg|| nt|ady: if n/s get to 6@S might well go down after the pre-empt from east may get spades wrong|pg|| nt|reisig: I bet 6@s -1|pg|| nt|phil: 4@C is a big bid|pg|| nt|dinos1: 4@c ... too much|pg|| nt|mdgraham: 4@C may have two-suiter overtones|pg|| nt|amr: not the right time to get busy unfortunately|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|2D|nt|bridge_one: 3@H 1 down if defence find the ruff in @D|pg|| nt|bridge_one: ruff in @S|pg|| nt|daman: would any of us bid with the North hand?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: chip is thinking about it|pg|| nt|sybarra: not fitting pards suit? |pg|| nt|daman: they can make 10 tricks in @Ds|pg|| nt|bridge_one: 2@S is mixed raise in @H|pg|| nt|mdgraham: but @CQJ should be devalued, so is possibly a bit, er, forward|pg|| nt|harmon: this could be bloody|pg|| nt|hlortz: meckwell are not known for beong shy ...|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, it's a pretty reasonable 3@d bid. Very unlucky if they manage to double him. As north I would just bid 3nt directly. I don't look for penalties at adverse vulnerability. ...|pg|| nt|kareno: Worst case, partner can't reopen :(|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth grabs michel's convention card|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C=@H & @S|pg|| nt|panja: NS good for 9 or 10 tricks in @S|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3D|nt|daman: and @Cs|pg|| nt|dinos1: in 6@s dcl will misguess @s i thk|pg|| nt|amr: why Hamman probably not take the chance in Open room|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: they have a preprinted WBF style card but were required to fill out ACBL-format cards for this even|pg|| mb|p|nt|robbg: I don't love overcalling on a 5 card suit with 3 in the opp's suit. This is a good suit.|pg|| nt|daman: but @Ds woulod be easier|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|kareno: Really? Bessis slamming opposite short diamonds in south?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ lets you open one table per window -- so you can spy on Open Room|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: the good sacrifice on Board 1 gave first blood (8 IMPs) to Dawson|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson whispering a question to stansby about leads|pg|| nt|amr: thx Al|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: and this could very easily be a p/s swing|pg|| nt|bridge_one: very difficult find the fit in the minors for N/S, being the auction 1@S 2@h |pg|| nt|ady: a lot of bidding from north |pg|| nt|phil: I think he can play AK@s and fall back on a throwin against West|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell still examining dummy|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|phil: but perhaps not enough entries for that|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|panja: @S 32 @H33...all benign breaks..so 10 tricks..almost impossible to bid your way to a game though|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, certainly not biddable.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|rodal f: Did Meck?|pg|| pc|sK|nt|bridge_one: the return @S is obliged by South bec the partner choose don't lead there, so ... void (probably)|pg|| nt|panja: and does not have the required % either...will be 24% or so...that is not enough even when VUL where game bonus is 10 IMPs or so|pg|| nt|kareno: Vulnerable you want about 36 percent or so for game.|pg|| nt|harmon: Yes but helness doesnt know his pard is only 5532 his first 2s bid is VERY timid|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|rodal f: Became a funny board|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell asks if 4NT was natural; michel just shows his hand|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|reisig: as predicted :)|pg|| nt|harmon: 4432|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: sorry got punted|pg|| nt|kareno: We'll shoot you at dawn :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: clock on 64 for boards 49-56; several tables have not yet resumed|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell nodding with his arms crossed. goes through his repertoire of mannerisms but hard to read what he's thinking|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell lowers the screen to write a question to helness|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: then puts his scorecard over the notepad so I can't read it|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell: sorry|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: I do not have third quarter scores because not all matches were done when this match resumed|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: the only one posted was Lall 83 Zaleski 128|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: specs are reminding me scores are posted at usbf.org|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth finally flashed a card to helness who ruffed; I didnt see which diamond|pg|| nt|harmon: this and cayne match closest|pg|| pc|dT|nt|daman: one sec hair of the dog........|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|nt|mdgraham: that will hurt|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|mc|10|pg|| qx|o51|st||md|1SA5HQT6DK975CAK65,SK432HJ3DAJT82C84,SQJ76H52D643CQ932,ST98HAK9874DQCJT7|sv|e|mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: In the other room Helgemo re-opened with 2@C (majors) and N-S are in 3@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|xenya: so a partscore swing to Zimmermann|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 2@D = 1 major|pg|| mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: The Multi defence to 1NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this should make easily|pg|| nt|xenya: with an overtrick perhpas|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.usbf.org/ for scores after three quarters in all matches|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Helgemo's action on board 50 was worth 7 IMPs|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|jcwla: He took a chance and it paid off.|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|c8|nt|xenya: best return by Zia -- declarer must play a club now |pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|sT|pc|d7|pg|| mc|9|nt|xenya: not clear why Hamman didn't cash the @SJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c51|st||md|1SA5HQT6DK975CAK65,SK432HJ3DAJT82C84,SQJ76H52D643CQ932,ST98HAK9874DQCJT7|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson talkative after the hand, asks how hearts split, then says good defense|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: everyone asking each other about shape on 18|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Vugraphzfe: out of order|pg|| mb|p|nt|robbg: If north responds here, it could get ugly for ns|pg|| nt|ady: 3NT for n/s should not present a problem|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bridge_one: DBL giving 4@h is good to compete - pass can be dangerous|pg|| nt|reisig: May stop at 1|pg|| nt|dinos1: no))|pg|| nt|dinos1: 1N isnt opening|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|robbg: off the hook|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: painful|pg|| nt|phil: south's hand is more attractive opposite a 1N overcall; less opposite a 1N opening|pg|| nt|dinos1: lol even w/o invitation|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: now cheek has to take the time to sort his hand|pg|| nt|chick: his hearts convinced him :)|pg|| mb|2N|nt|daman: the best possible result for NS|pg|| nt|mdgraham: interesting shot|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: luck of the Irish|pg|| nt|bridge_one: may be DBL at 2@C the best (if play this DBL not penalty)|pg|| nt|daman: Chip O'Martel|pg|| nt|xenya: was S obliged to bid over the double?|pg|| nt|rodal f: By the level I belive a easy 3NT.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 7 - 2nd best, so dcl can set 3 @s tricks|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|kareno: Interesting. I would think 2nt was a wiggle bid for a minor.|pg|| nt|harmon: me2|pg|| pc|h2|nt|harmon: Helness still wiggling|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: 2N = MAX, 2@S|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|mdgraham: perhaps East has reasoned that with NS in game and him holding an ace, West must be minimum|pg|| nt|dinos1: just nothing to discard on them :)|pg|| nt|mdgraham: but still, brave not to lead partner's suit|pg|| pc|cA|nt|hlortz: 12 opposite 12 thats EXTRAS for meckwell :)|pg|| pc|c8|nt|robbg: no, and I wouldn't but it worked in his favor.|pg|| nt|daman: one would think|pg|| nt|bridge_one: South choose to give the second suit because short in @H, so more chances to compete|pg|| nt|daman: I always bid my second suit when I have one|pg|| nt|daman: Kokish would have your head if you didn't bid 2@C|pg|| nt|dinos1: mb he dreamed @s are 2-2?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|mdgraham: there are some players this side of the pond who regard not leading their suit as a capital offence |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|nt|phil: I would not be the least bit surprised to see a simulation confirm a spade lead is better on this bidding and holding an entry|pg|| nt|kareno: First round diamond finesse would prove fatal.|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|nt|daman: but with weak @Cs and Ax in both reds there could be a reason for passing|pg|| pc|s4|pc|cQ|nt|kareno: Finesse into the safe hand for an overtrick.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth: I'm going to make it|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|robbg: I don't think this is a suit with both red aces.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: actually players were in order but software out of order from int4erruption|pg|| pc|c9|pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kareno: So ... 3@c not a bad contract but this is going down a couple.|pg|| nt|harmon: dble of 2hts seems awfully aggressive|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Open Room West in 2@H after balancing 2@D=transfer|pg|| pc|s6|nt|daman: that is called sitting on the fence|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ lets you open one window per every vugraph table you want to watch|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|nt|robbg: I suspect Eric wouldn't be so quick with the guillotine, but in this case, the opponents would!|pg|| nt|daman: off with their heads!|pg|| nt|panja: y, undoubled, would have been a quiet 1 down..|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| mc|6|nt|kareno: The Miami Endplay!|pg|| pg|| qx|o52|st||md|2SAKQJTHQJ4DT65CQ7,S975HKT72DJ9743CA,S84H83DQ2CT986542,S632HA965DAK8CKJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: i guess the @Dk is marked with Zia ... so the fin was clear|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|Walddk2: Normal contract, 1 down|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: if west were declaring would north have found the @S lead ?|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|nt|sunsamvar: on the other hand if west opened anything but 1 nt Zia wd have overcalled @S|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|Walddk2: Same contract in the other room and no swing|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|nt|Walddk2: Well, 2 down possible (double finesse possible), but that would be against the odds|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|9|nt|Walddk2: AK wins with Qx in either hand|pg|| nt|jcwla: 2 chances for blank queen after first round, running @DJ caters to only one|pg|| nt|fabsayc: could have played to pin the ten also|pg|| pg|| qx|c52|st||md|2SAKQJTHQJ4DT65CQ7,S975HKT72DJ9743CA,S84H83DQ2CT986542,S632HA965DAK8CKJ3|sv|b|nt|daman: off the schneid|pg|| nt|robbg: In the other room south did pass, but west bid 2@d rather than converting.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson: nice that my lead didn't cost a trick|pg|| nt|panja: on the @SA lead of course...not otherwise..|pg|| mb|p|nt|xenya: a bit surprising that 2@D was made in both rooms|pg|| nt|robbg: Steve is usually more agressive than that.|pg|| nt|kareno: Famous play - you throw them in and they cash the rest of the tricks :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: yes helgemo exited with a heart and rodwell ran the heart suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H was better|pg|| nt|robbg: 1@d precision|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Dawson points at 2@H and chip writes "weak" then something I couldn't read that made them both laugh|pg|| mb|1N|nt|daman: 3@D seems de rigeur|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: chip pulls out his own 3@D card and points at it. Dawson: 5+@D|pg|| nt|ady: 20-20|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C=non-force|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this 1N=15-17 [3rd seat VUL always 4th seat]|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|bridge_one: 4@S ON for NS - 4@H 1 down|pg|| nt|robbg: Well, it depends on whether it is forcing for them (they play precision). |pg|| nt|dinos1: ome more strong @c|pg|| mb|p|nt|rodal f: NS emptyed and EW to find the end|pg|| nt|rodal f: But the 2@C was up to invit Al.|pg|| nt|kareno: 4@d could be too high.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Meck's auction shows why he didn't upgrade to 16+ HCP 1@C if pointed suits were reversed -- who knows|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell is hard to read, especially from behind his shoulder|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N = Puppet Stayman|pg|| mb|3C|nt|robbg: Walter seems to think it IS forcing.|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: this is very perilous|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: the notepad seems to read "5+@D; NF"|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2Down - so Dbl would work here - but 4@S better that 500|pg|| nt|rodal f: By a @Dlead ure right Karen:)|pg|| nt|harmon: trump lead kills this|pg|| nt|hlortz: on a friendly day 5@D might make - not today...|pg|| nt|kareno: Right - spades not working and club offside. Diamond lead for the money|pg|| nt|hlortz: prob need a @D to set it i guess|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: thomas asks if @S can be 6, Rodwell answers 5|pg|| nt|kareno: I think it's down without a diamond lead. South would have to duck the first spade though from dummy|pg|| nt|kareno: 3@c shows one or both majors|pg|| mb|4H|nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell: good luck|pg|| nt|kareno: Let's watch, specs :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: may even be three down|pg|| nt|mdgraham: the important thing is to have the confidence to lead what you think is right, not just to lead a suit because partner bid it |pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: NS carding upside-down|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: this table was the first to finish from the closed room in the first quarter. much faster than dawson-johnson-stansby-martel|pg|| nt|harmon: 3@S shows hts|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: Hi David|pg|| nt|robbg: Pretty hard to bid 4@s and incredibly lucky to make.|pg|| nt|dburn: one heart, three clubs, two more hearts will promote a trump|pg|| nt|bridge_one: yes - but dbl at 3@D giving a interesting hand would work|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: martel still fingering his cards|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson leaning back with crossed arms|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no 3@C just says not 5@H/@S|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, okay.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@S says 4@H, not 4@S|pg|| pc|sA|nt|amr: specs wondering if Meck could have any better than AKxxx x AQxxxx x|pg|| nt|harmon: cant be right to rise|pg|| nt|hlortz: n having a stiff @S leads trump to protect partner;s probable spades |pg|| nt|kareno: If he had better than that, he'd have opened 1@c|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: michel has his cards folded on the table, hands clasped in front of his face|pg|| nt|harmon: quick d1|pg|| nt|kareno: Nice pass by south over 1nt, hoping to defend 3 ;)|pg|| pc|s5|nt|reisig: 110....next case :)|pg|| nt|dinos1: is @sK good lead when W showed stopper in it?|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|kareno: On the auction west is marked with at least five spades.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: kibitzer brings rodwell a mug of water; he sips it and gives the thumbs-up|pg|| nt|kareno: Spec points out that north will have to shift to clubs to break up a squeeze on south.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth holding his cards below the table - as usual - yet has four kibitzers behind him|pg|| nt|harmon: if he divines the club position hes very close to making|pg|| nt|hlortz: jeff probably thinking about the @C finesse|pg|| nt|harmon: req musdefense|pg|| nt|kareno: Close but no cigar :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: clock on 49 to finish board 40|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: 75 minutes allocated for 8 boards|pg|| nt|kareno: Had south risen with the spade ace and returned his last trump, that would have done it also.|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|panja: the stiff @CA opposite @CKJx means a lot of wasted strength....if E had xxx in Clubs.. this game would have had much better chances..|pg|| pc|h7|nt|kareno: Now it's finished.|pg|| pc|h8|nt|harmon: good d|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth having an ice cream sandwich; rodwell brewing tea|pg|| nt|kareno: With the diamond coming doubleton, should be down one.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: 19 of us at this table including the players|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: kibitzers include kyle larsen, peter boyd|pg|| nt|kareno: If you know what they look like, those are the snacks you would expect them to have :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell folds his hand on the table again and tests his tea|pg|| nt|kareno: At this point I believe anyone can come and watch in the room. However, if you leave, you may not come back in.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: that's my understanding; once you leave you may not return. more people keep wandering by|pg|| nt|kareno: There's no Devil's coup and heart QJ are not doubleton.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|nt|mdgraham: well, partner did bid the suit :) |pg|| pc|h2|nt|dburn: perhaps not, but no obvious candidate for a better lead presents itself|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|kareno: Last diamond tor down 2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: play very fast, players didn't let me see all the cards|pg|| nt|kareno: The open room is available to watch until one team comes out of the closed room.|pg|| pc|h5|nt|Vugraphzfe: when thomas produced @D2, meckstroth said "sorry partner"|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|daman: tie ballgame now|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Johnson shows his hand and asks about @SK. Stansby owns up to it and they put the cards back in the board|pg|| pc|hK|nt|dburn: and we cannot have this failing to lead partner's suit becoming an epidemic|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|d4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|hQ|pc|d7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|kareno: Good play by south. Now he leads a diamond and east must guess.|pg|| mc|9|nt|kareno: He guessed well!|pg|| pg|| qx|o53|st||md|3ST87654HT3D632CK9,S9HAKJ52DK974CJ87,SA2HQ874DQCAQ6532,SKQJ3H96DAJT85CT4|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: Yes, for half the chance|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|sunsamvar: E/W might get to game and go down|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|jcwla: This has the look of a @D partial.|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Then 3@D by Thomas and he has shown his hand|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 2c then 3d looks too much to me|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: well both E and W have opening hands|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I think it shows about what he has|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|xenya: well-controlled auction|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: well stopped|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h6|nt|sunsamvar: now located the trump q|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hT|nt|jcwla: still in possession of that @HT|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|petergill: Hi everyone|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hi Peter|pg|| nt|jcwla: Hi, Peter.|pg|| nt|xenya: hello Peter|pg|| mc|9|nt|fabsayc: made 4?|pg|| nt|xenya: it certainly looked like 10 tricks|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: I made an error on the play.. but the result was +110|pg|| pg|| qx|c53|st||md|3ST87654HT3D632CK9,S9HAKJ52DK974CJ87,SA2HQ874DQCAQ6532,SKQJ3H96DAJT85CT4|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfe: everyone asking about the D lie; greco asks cheek his length, grue asks where DJ was and counts to 17|pg|| mb|1C|nt|sybarra: anyone open N? |pg|| nt|daman: March Madness is on in case anyone is interested|pg|| mb|1D|nt|rodal f: Anyway ure result was correct John:)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|an|!H, probably 5|nt|daman: I do not|pg|| nt|robbg: no, but it is a nice hand for the Losing Trick Count crowd!|pg|| nt|kareno: I play that double shows hearts with diamond tolerance at least.|pg|| mb|2C!|an|max 2 spades|mb|p|nt|panja: 4@D is the limit for EW...unfortunately, that is a minor suit, so no game..|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: EW explanations match precisely|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|daman: wow|pg|| nt|robbg: Light openings, passed hand balance, I don't really understand why Walter is pursuing a misfit.|pg|| nt|daman: same here|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Dawson's turn to frown at the tray|pg|| nt|xenya: N postponing double until the next round?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|robbg: yikes|pg|| pc|cK|nt|daman: Levin opened the East hand 2@S|pg|| pc|c7|nt|bridge_one: Kx@S and AK K out are to much to pass - but 3@C can be misunderstood (no forcing after passed hand)|pg|| nt|panja: and there will be a trump guess at trick three...does E ruff with @DJT or A?|pg|| pc|c6|nt|dburn: this might not make if declarer takes the wrong view of the spades|pg|| nt|kareno: This double could be costly.|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|bridge_one: I think West thought 3@C forcing in this sequence|pg|| nt|daman: it seems Walter has very few green cards in his bidding box he loves to bid|pg|| nt|robbg: Why are they too much to pass when your partner has basically denied an 11 count?|pg|| nt|bridge_one: yes, pass over passed hand is correct|pg|| nt|reisig: even w right view|pg|| nt|phil: for starters|pg|| nt|dinos1: I see only 8 tricks|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|nt|amr: Can he manage to get 6@s in|pg|| nt|harmon: cash 2 clubs and lead spade I dont think can be made|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell puts his cards on the table and scratches his mustache|pg|| nt|rodal f: By the X I belive -1, as by no X would have been -2. Might I'm wrong.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|bridge_one: West was searching a way to play 3Nt or 3@S bidding 3@C - the pass was more conservative but probably the best bid|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: stansby in the Thinker pose then makes motions with his fingers as if counting|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco asks, NS answer reverse smith|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|panja: @DA might have a little better %?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness yawns|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|panja: the empty space principle...and the information from bidding....two factors dictate the % for the @DQ|pg|| pc|s6|nt|kareno: I think he can make it.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: T Bessis false card in @H cancels out Rod's false card :)|pg|| nt|harmon: yes sh dlead d now and another ht|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: thomas asks if EW carding is upsidedown; rodwell says except when the lead shows AK|pg|| nt|rodal f: I heard a lot of comments from the specs. Sorrely I am defrosting my refrig as I try to comment. Can't answer u all:(|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: one kibitzer using the dead time to knit|pg|| nt|kareno: Two club ruffs in hand four tricks in the red suits and either a diamond ruff in dummy or a trump promotion. BUT he must cash that heart quickly.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: thomas leaning back with his hands behind his head|pg|| nt|kareno: If he tries for the diamond ruff too soon, east can discard his second heart.|pg|| nt|kareno: Specs: We do NOT use GIB for commentating and we don't want to hear what it says because GIB knows all the cards.|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco asks carding again, cheek confirms upside-down|pg|| nt|dburn: still, that was probably the right move by Cheek - would work if North's spades were Qxx also|pg|| nt|phil: smith is very useful on this hand|pg|| nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|kareno: Hi Kit!! |pg|| nt|harmon: hi|pg|| mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfe: thomas pulls a card then thinks twice|pg|| pg|| qx|o54|st||md|4S9432HKQ7DJ2CJ986,SKQ5HT653DK764C73,SAJ87HAJ2DAQT83C2,ST6H984D95CAKQT54|sv|e|nt|jcwla: same contract CR not what nickell needs yet|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Maybe declarer ruffed with @DA and ran the jack|pg|| nt|petergill: East avoided bidding 2@C which can go for 500|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: It's normal to finesse @S10 on the first round and lose two trump tricks, but 4@S should still make easily |pg|| nt|Walddk2: On this lie Zia can afford to misguess trumps and still make|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Inserting the 8 spot is better than the jack|pg|| pc|h6|nt|petergill: A @d lead will not talk declarer out of the @d finesse|pg|| nt|fabsayc: but not if a club was lead|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Earlier today we saw two declarers play well in 6@S and go down in a contract they could have made|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hope it makes sense|pg|| nt|fabsayc: play % you mean|pg|| nt|Walddk2: yes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Missing Qxxx trumps|pg|| nt|Walddk2: RHO had pre-empted so declarer knew clubs were 7-2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: So they finessed through LHO, and of course RHO had Qx|pg|| nt|petergill: Perfect defence can get 2@CX for 800 via a trump promotion, so Michel Bessis did well to pass at the unsuitable vulnerability |pg|| nt|jcwla: Zia likes side Qx's for his preempts: "They never guess them."|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d2|nt|xenya: perhaps declarer should try the @D finesse first to see how many trump losers he can afford |pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s4|nt|fabsayc: lol|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: this way of playing trumps has psychological value|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|cA|mc|10|nt|jcwla: otay|pg|| pg|| qx|c54|st||md|4S9432HKQ7DJ2CJ986,SKQ5HT653DK764C73,SAJ87HAJ2DAQT83C2,ST6H984D95CAKQT54|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfe: greco, resignedly: "nice play"|pg|| nt|panja: N opened so he is more likely to have it for its 2 HCP.....S has more empty spaces...etc.etc.|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson asks grue who recites greco's hand from 21|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Rod's falsecard of @H4 made declarer thinkg @H were 6-1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C=10-15 HCP, 6+@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: weak nt by south|pg|| nt|daman: 11-14?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: with the crowd of kibitzers people keep trying to watch the screen over my shoulder for lack of other vantage points|pg|| mb|d|nt|bridge_one: yes|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: not easy to pass with 6331|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: chip: finally get to play a hand (and laughs)|pg|| nt|ady: both have 4 losers in a major suit contract|pg|| mb|2S|nt|daman: this has potential to be a double p/s swing|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson explains their carding, upside-down count and attitude and a few details I didnt catch|pg|| nt|kit: North will reopen with a double -- South will consider passing it|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: director trying to steer them away|pg|| mb|3C|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: or even a minor suit contract....|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: X by N showed no 4cd @s?|pg|| nt|chick: probably 4 losers in @D also|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue: "I don't have much"|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Time for a tea break ... (_)? ... with cookies anyone? ... OOOO|pg|| pc|c7|nt|Vugraphzfe: grue: "he doesn't have 4 spades"|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ady: could be 5 losers if taking option to pin 10@S|pg|| nt|kareno: Specs may absolutely NOT look at your screen!!|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|mdgraham: audience: oh yes he does|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|bridge_one: better duck the lead @H|pg|| nt|harmon: 10 tricks |pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the reason -- nobody in the room can know the running total|pg|| nt|panja: North assumed some strength with South, for W's Pass...and because E is a limited range opening..else 4@S would have been a huge overbid|pg|| nt|ahollan1: except vugraph operator :)|pg|| nt|kit: not clear how to play it -- may cross to heart and take diamond finesse|pg|| nt|hlortz: 2 spades and a club for the defense?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: well, the law regarding spectators also says spectators may not look at more than one hand|pg|| nt|kareno: I'll repeat why the specs are eager to watch at this table: Two of the very best pairs in the world are facing each other here tonight. We are very lucky to be able to observe ...|pg|| nt|kareno: them.|pg|| nt|panja: a small Spade next? or a @D hook after @H to K?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: none of these players is very animated. helgemo barely moving a muscle during his think|pg|| nt|kareno: John, if you get any scores, do let us know. But specs, you can check on the USBF site for them also.|pg|| nt|kit: he will certainly lead spades from his hand -- West figures to have KQ of spades and king of diamonds for the 3@C call|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|ady: not now|pg|| nt|dinos1: now made|pg|| nt|kareno: Also posted at www.acbl.org I'm told|pg|| pc|s3|nt|sybarra: could well go wrong on the spade |pg|| nt|xenya: forced to make it|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|rodal f: Have my vine Karen. Tasty it is.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: michel actually led @D2 from hand at trick 4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| nt|panja: 3@C was after original pass|pg|| nt|kit: so much for that prediction|pg|| nt|kareno: He's gotten a little luck with more to come in the diamond suit.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: scores and bracket online at http://www.acbl.org/nabc/brackets/2010/01/vanderbilt/|pg|| nt|ahollan1: team rosters http://www.acbl.org/nabc/rosters/2010/01/VANDPRS/|pg|| nt|kit: Not elegant, but the contract will come home by diamond finesse and ruffing out king of diamonds.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth arranging his quitted tricks|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|dinos1: oh, still -1)|pg|| nt|ady: why made?|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|dinos1: wd make 4@s :)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s4|pg|| nt|kareno: Al, you are a font of information. He's not just another pretty face, specs :)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|xenya: unless he is concerned about undertricks|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfe: quick chat in norwegian through the window|pg|| pg|| qx|o55|st||md|1SQT9743HK6DAQ9C97,S52HAJ7532DK84C53,SA6HQ984DJT3CAQJ4,SKJ8HTD7652CKT862|sv|b|nt|petergill: Zia on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zia_Mahmood|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Now *that* is a sound weak two|pg|| mb|3C|nt|sunsamvar: too sound if u ask me|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: It would be a 1@S opening to most people I suspect|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|jcwla: "good hand bad suit"|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: with rosenberg he use to play 2 bids sound, 2@D with the weaker two bids|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this type of weak two use to be the standard|pg|| nt|petergill: 3NT is much better than 4@S|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Maybe on your side of the pond|pg|| nt|jcwla: "Ac-tion," as Alicia Bridges might say.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: hey when i was on the other side they played acol two bids|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You won't find many Europeans who don't open 1@S|pg|| nt|petergill: Many players with Zia's cards woul simply bid 4@S, not think of the 3NT call, which is costfree, consulting partner|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: well done Zia|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: might get a swing|pg|| pc|c6|nt|petergill: 4@S is virtually certain to fail and 3NT should make, although there is a case to run @SQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|petergill: If you have @S8, running @SQ is OK play, but lacking @S8, a low spade to the ace is best, I think|pg|| nt|petergill: NS System Summary http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=497&pid=547 |pg|| nt|Walddk2: As expected, Helgemo opened 1@S|pg|| pc|s3|nt|fabsayc: running the queen when only two in dummy would be right perhaps if west had bid showing points|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jcwla: 2@C-2@S-2NT-3NT the rest of the CR auction|pg|| nt|petergill: Information about the Nickell team is at http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&Itemid=224&id=526|pg|| pc|sT|nt|petergill: I think Fred Gitelman famously showed that the Encyclopedia of Bridge's |pg|| pc|h5|nt|petergill: Suit Combinations for Q109876 opposite Ax was wrong, a few years ago|pg|| pc|dT|pc|sK|pg|| nt|petergill: and that running the queen is best, but I might be wrong|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c55|st||md|1SQT9743HK6DAQ9C97,S52HAJ7532DK84C53,SA6HQ984DJT3CAQJ4,SKJ8HTD7652CKT862|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfe: grue asks, hampson: "we make 3"|pg|| nt|yusufb: 8@c 6 yaptýrýyo|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm a teAtotaller :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: but the software won't allow that|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|an|FG|nt|Vugraphzfe: table in good humor, all players laughing after the hand, didn't catch every word they whispered|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: 6@C a make |pg|| nt|phil: useful club spots in dummy here|pg|| nt|harmon: will they get to 6 0r 7|pg|| nt|kareno: I am limited to 'thank you' in that language :)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Vugraphzfe: eight tables in play on either side of the divider|pg|| nt|ady: may be difficult to reach|pg|| nt|phil: the diamond preemption may help|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue asks hampson what were the clubs, then grue: I doubt we make 4@S|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: can't pick up all the whispers but will relay as much as I can|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco fanning and folding his cards|pg|| nt|dinos1: 4@c-4@h-4@s-5@c?|pg|| nt|dburn: I suppose he might just blast 6@c, on the grounds that what little partner has will not be in diamonds|pg|| nt|mdgraham: this may involve an educated punt at some point |pg|| nt|phil: seems like a practical shot|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: finally reaches for bidding box then has second thoughts|pg|| nt|dburn: and yet, he needs to be concerned that partner may have some shape such as 4=5=3=1|pg|| nt|champ i: 4 dia|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: (reached for the lower pocket with P and X in it)|pg|| mb|p|nt|phil: I wonder if 4@c is forcing|pg|| nt|dburn: but if partner does have that, the handling charges in 6@s will be horrible anyway|pg|| nt|kareno: Why would they bid slam? |pg|| mb|2N|nt|panja: 6-2 @S fit on B55, but 3N might just have a little better chances than 4@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: with screens now?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: yes screens are in use|pg|| mb|3N|nt|mdgraham: had some suggestions for 4@D|pg|| nt|kit: Should reach 4@S or 3NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: a normal auction|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson pointing at each bid in the auction around the tray|pg|| nt|dburn: still, this may be the stronger way to get to 5@c, but Hampson will do very well indeed to move|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: shrugs|pg|| nt|hlortz: rod had to X since 2@S would be non forcing..|pg|| nt|rodal f: Give EW a @C lead and u have.....|pg|| nt|ahollan1: note DBL instead of 2@S because of "negative free bids"|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 4@S ON bec West have only 3@h - so 2@S and A@D for E/W|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson asks about 2@S. chip's handwriting is very tight and hard to read upside down. "usually 2 spades"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth exits and asks a kibitzer to turn dummy|pg|| nt|harmon: potential swing here big one|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: leads? 3/5|pg|| nt|kareno: Instead of asking us about why Rodwell didn't bid spades over hearts, I recommend you watcn for ahollan1's commentary - he knows their system pretty completely.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: explanations on both sides of screen|pg|| nt|kit: They did well to choose 3NT, as 4@S would have been down quickly|pg|| pc|c6|nt|daman: if East could stab the @H Ace the tap would be on|pg|| nt|bridge_one: sry - 9 tricks - A@H also|pg|| nt|robbg: 4@s is on what?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson asks stansby if he could bid 2@D. Martel: "What?", Johnson: "we're just chatting" then asks chip to lower the screen|pg|| nt|daman: I'm sure Chip said 'pardon me Sir?'|pg|| nt|bridge_one: yes A@H, A@D, 2@S - so 9 tricks - i miscounted before, loosing the A in @H|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: martel expressive compared to stoic stansby|pg|| nt|dburn: too tough|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco puffs his cheeks and sighs|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, it's a little unlucky not to make. 3nt is definitely better and will fetch.|pg|| nt|kareno: I have some results thanks to a spec: Fleisher is up on Dawson 126-78; Diamond is up on Gordon 120-86; Zaleski is up on Lall 128-83; DeKnijff is up on Schwartz 130-97|pg|| nt|ahollan1: same contract in other room after Zia opened 2@S|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: didnt see which club, guessing|pg|| pc|s3|nt|harmon: the only other close match is strul +15 over Cayne|pg|| pc|s5|nt|dinos1: @cA - ruff @s|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue has his glasses off, rubbing his eyes|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|rodal f: Would N have leaded @H at 6@D? A question we never will get any answer at.|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|hT|nt|sybarra: hi :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: sorry |pg|| nt|bridge_one: good time by North|pg|| pc|hK|nt|harmon: whats the diff??|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kareno: 6@d was never a possible contract with these two hands so it's moot :)|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|bridge_one: timing|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: chip waving, moves one card to the end of his hand|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: then moves anoter. fingers his cards like he's working out sequence of play|pg|| nt|kareno: More from our helpful spec: Strul is up on Cayne 86-71; Hampton WD against Lynch 133-45; Onstott is ahead oif Charmichael 107-83; and this one|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|nt|hlortz: @D hands are often tough for strong @C systems since 1@D is 2+|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: michel removes and returns @C6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Helgemo-Helness in 6 .... SPADES|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|daman: he is a very deliberate player|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: points his fingerat various cards in dumy|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: bah glitched the input|pg|| nt|amr: now 7!!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell: keep leading diamonds, then "more diamonds"|pg|| nt|ahollan1: too right much easier to defend against the grand|pg|| mc|10|nt|kareno: Oh, those are 3/4 scores, not up to the minute.|pg|| pg|| qx|o56|st||md|2SAHAJ3DAKJ2CA9764,SKJTHT8752DQ6CQJ3,S832HKQ64DT94CT52,SQ97654H9D8753CK8|sv|o|nt|petergill: I am wrong. It was Q10987 opposite Ax with which you run the queen|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|petergill: Even a sound-bidding Frenchman opens 2@S in 3rd seat, not vul|pg|| nt|fabsayc: east hand subpar weak two in NA, or at least use to be|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|Walddk2: I thought anything goes in 3rd, even in NA|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|petergill: 5-1 trump break in 4@H|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the original official range was 6-11|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|petergill: "Setting up the side suit first" is usually good strategy|pg|| nt|jcwla: The CR contract: 3NT / N -- all those who had that may collect.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3NT next door, also unlikely to make|pg|| nt|petergill: Thomas is thinking- if I exit a spade now, then what will I do when I win @CQ a trick later - best to figure this out NOW|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1700 specs would make it, obviously|pg|| nt|petergill: Declarer will probably cash a trump or two, then use clubs as "replacement trumps" to lead through East, how does all this affect whether declarer will finesse @d's or not, so how ...|pg|| nt|petergill: should East defend now?|pg|| nt|fabsayc: hamman conceviably could make this|pg|| nt|petergill: These are the sorts of things Thomas is thinking about|pg|| nt|petergill: Thomas Bessis is one of the very best players in the world who are still in their twenties|pg|| nt|Walddk2: If you think 2@S was light here, then it's nothing compared to Rod's 1@S at the other table|pg|| nt|petergill: through West I meant|pg|| nt|fabsayc: when we were too light for 2@S we opened a Murray 1@S|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: That caused Drury to invent Drury|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|s5|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He was fed up with Murray's featherlight openings in 3rd|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|hA|pg|| nt|petergill: Many of Eric Murray's revolutionary bidding habits of 40 years ago are now commonplace amongst experts - very light non vul 3rd seat openers, "lots of aggression and psyches at fav ...|pg|| nt|petergill: vul" etc|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|petergill: Now Hamman knows East has 6142 shape and thus has 4-2 or 67% chance of having @DQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: controled psychics actually predate Murrays period of fame|pg|| pc|sT|nt|petergill: 4 @D's to 2 @D's = 2/3 chance of East having @DQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| nt|petergill: Well defended by Thomas Bessis|pg|| nt|Walddk2: So 2 IMPs for playing on 4-3|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the desperation club lead tends to negate those odds though|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Understandably, Helness went 3 down in 3NT|pg|| nt|petergill: Martin's point is very good, as usual|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c9|nt|sunsamvar: do all of agree with West return of trump at trick ?|pg|| nt|petergill: @CK opening lead suggested that East had nothing in @ds so he was searching for tricks in clubs|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|nt|petergill: Hamman timed the play well to escape for -1, not -2|pg|| nt|xenya: well done for 1 off|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 8 boards to go after this|pg|| mc|9|nt|petergill: Using @H3 to retain trump control|pg|| pg|| qx|c56|st||md|2SAHAJ3DAKJ2CA9764,SKJTHT8752DQ6CQJ3,S832HKQ64DT94CT52,SQ97654H9D8753CK8|sv|o|nt|daman: You are doing a great job John|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson played an honor on the first heart trick then the 4|pg|| nt|kareno: There is a way to watch both sides of the match at once, isn't there?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell/helness disclose their shape. helness evaluates 4@S and has a laugh|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|daman: who would invoke 2NT with the East hand?|pg|| nt|daman: Great poker hand in @Cs|pg|| mb|d|nt|daman: Levin bid 2NT in the OR I am told|pg|| nt|robbg: I prefer 2@d with moderate values|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: chip smiling, to dawson: trying to think how long it's been since we last played against each other|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: reminiscing a bit|pg|| nt|daman: and they are n 5@D doubled|pg|| nt|panja: 4@H is a good spot on B56|pg|| nt|kit: odd choiceof 1@S rather than 2@S|pg|| mb|2H!|an|good raise|nt|bridge_one: with Kx in @H 2@D is better that 2Nt|pg|| nt|daman: -300|pg|| nt|robbg: cheap|pg|| nt|daman: vs 420 sure is|pg|| nt|robbg: looked like 500 to me|pg|| mb|d|nt|dburn: 5@d perhaps superior to 3NT here, but that @c7 in the West hand may come to the rescue if they do arrive in 3NT|pg|| mb|2S|nt|kareno: Yes, a psych I would say.|pg|| mb|d|nt|panja: but @H are 51...3N will make if @DQ is brought down in two rounds|pg|| nt|kit: they may get to 5@C rather than 4@H after this start|pg|| nt|kareno: Here it is: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ lets you open one window per every vugraph table you want to watch|pg|| nt|kit: they aren't going to play 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: yes|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|daman: yes -500|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: chip took his time deciding on 4@S. I try to match tempo with the players but sometimes my reportage gets me behind|pg|| mb|p|nt|xenya: vs 450|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ahhhh the wonders of garbage stayman|pg|| nt|ahollan1: how else do you get to choose betwee 4-2 fits|pg|| nt|kareno: You're a great guesser, Kit :)|pg|| mb|3N|nt|kareno: I don't play that stuff. If I have spades, hearts and DIAMONDS I can get out with 2@c and pass any response.|pg|| nt|kareno: King and JTxx good enough to play 1nt I think.|pg|| mb|p|nt|rodal f: And worked this time?|pg|| nt|kit: or so I thought|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Michel Bessis did open 2@S Hamman declaring 4@H|pg|| nt|panja: that might be interesting...|pg|| nt|kit: any of the games will make if you drop the offside queen of diamonds, I believe, but that won't be obvious to do|pg|| nt|kareno: That's a decent contract. |pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: Cheek may not lead his partner's suit here, of course|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: 5@d may gow down with @d4-1|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson views dummy and nods|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: does not call immediately the way greco had been doing|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm not sure you need that in hearts - set up clubs.|pg|| pc|s6|nt|panja: after the 2@S opening...might be easier to reject @D finesse|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|nt|chick: are they playing some non std lead system, or was that J just deceptive?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco asks if he can leave - grue then asks for a cigarette break after the hand|pg|| nt|dinos1: J - 0 or 2 higher?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue: we should all go together anyway|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|nt|Vugraphzfe: in the first quarter a few players left the room unescorted. at some point in the vanderbilt that is strongly discouraged|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson has his cards folded on the table, playing with the quitted tricks|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|daman: looks like 2 IMPs to Dawson|pg|| pc|h4|nt|kit: I don't think the opening bid matters -- possession of queen of diamonds wouldn't affect his choice|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|kareno: They've pointed out hearts are 5-1 .. it's late and I never noticed!|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|nt|panja: likely two down on a failed @D finesse..|pg|| nt|kit: However, Rodwell has some interesting discards to make here|pg|| nt|panja: true..|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell asking about 2NT, screen closed again|pg|| nt|panja: he can discard both Clubs..|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, east is definitely under pressure. Do they still play upside down suit preference, Kit, if you know?|pg|| nt|kit: Remember, West has shown a "good" spade raise|pg|| nt|kareno: Would the ten of hearts show club values?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @H10 may [keyword] show @C values|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness: 4@H, probably 44(32) or 3433|pg|| nt|kit: yes, they play upside-down suit-pref|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm told they do and that ten of hearts may show club cards.|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|Vugraphzfe: pace markedly slower than first few boards|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://www.usbf.org/ for scores after the first quarter in all eight matches|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: clock on 18 for this batch of 8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cheek pulls out @CA but puts it back|pg|| nt|kit: note that Rodwell might cover 10 of diamonds with Q87x -- necessary if his partner has 9x|pg|| nt|kareno: west continuing to show clubs (I think)|pg|| nt|kit: So if declarer reads the distribution, then ...... maybe|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness toying with @HK. rodwell: sorry|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|daman: I am told NS play Flannery they do not digress and bid 6-4 2@D|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: "throw the diamond and take the heart finesse"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: "it works? 5."|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|Vugraphzfe: grue/greco/hampson depart|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: kibitzer to cheek: great to see you coming back from your injuries|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cheek responds, in good spirits, talking about his recovery|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: for those who don't know the story, cheek had a bad case of H1N1|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: still has one foot in a boot and arrived on a motorized chair - and has a few scars - but is doing well and playing well now|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco back, joe and geoff still away. plenty of time on the clock|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: players return|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: joe brings cheek a pepsi. he asks greco to open it for him, then washes down a couple pain pills|pg|| nt|kit: no, that would be 9 tricks for declarer -- he wouldn't cover -- sorry|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|h7|pg|| nt|harmon: would meck show good raise with KJ QJ??|pg|| pc|dT|nt|kareno: Nice seven tricks :)|pg|| pc|d8|nt|kareno: Rodwell had a spade to spare. I'm not fond of the diamond pitch.|pg|| nt|kit: why not? Collect the maximum if declarer finesses|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness counts his quitted tricks|pg|| nt|kareno: Would he pitch it if he had the queen?|pg|| nt|kit: why wouldn't he?|pg|| nt|harmon: yes|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: stares at ceiling and says something under his breath|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: reads something on notepad. asks about 1S-X-2S. what is a good raise in your system?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|mc|6|nt|harmon: d2'|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cashed H5 and exited spade|pg|| pg|| qx|o57|st||md|3SJ2HQ972DT92CAJ42,SK73HKT864D743CT8,SQ865HAJ5DQJ8CKQ9,SAT94H3DAK65C7653|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: http://www.usbf.org/ for scores after three quarters|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: No running scores from other matches during sessions|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcwla: Back to the quiet 1NT's.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Note that neither South chose to go for a, at best, a thin game when non-vulnerable|pg|| nt|jcwla: What is the least change to make a move?|pg|| nt|fabsayc: club 10|pg|| pc|d5|nt|xenya: even 2N would be in jeopardy here i think|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d7|pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|fabsayc: will exit in diamonds but then fourth diamond prevents an overtrick|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|fabsayc: maybe it does not since hearts 5-1|pg|| nt|xenya: not if he guesses the layout|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| nt|petergill: Eric Rodwell at the other table led at Trick 1 @S4, much better than leading @S10 or 9 as many club players would|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c57|st||md|3SJ2HQ972DT92CAJ42,SK73HKT864D743CT8,SQ865HAJ5DQJ8CKQ9,SAT94H3DAK65C7653|sv|e|nt|bridge_one: playing 5@D East can find a endgame to win one trick, but complicated|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: and back to the bridge|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell: how many clubs did you have? four?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth: yeah I had four|pg|| nt|panja: how is 4@H doing in the other room?|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: clock on 10 for the first 8|pg|| nt|kareno: nv I imagine Helgemo will pass.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not down -- yet booked and West still holds 2 more trump|pg|| nt|panja: down 1..|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson/grue discussing previous board where greco had @SAJ9 and what might happen at other table|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: (greco didn't take that long to pass - I was typing)|pg|| nt|dinos1: EW have 3@d but impossible to find|pg|| nt|ahollan1: still 14-16|pg|| nt|panja: this pass by South is so much of a guess...for it to come out alright..|pg|| nt|kareno: To watch two tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness talking to himself while the tray was on the other side of the screen|pg|| pc|s4|nt|kareno: Vulnerable it's a different story.|pg|| nt|panja: N could have 4@H, or for some pairs, even 5..|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Vugraphzfe: so 85 minutes left for this quarter|pg|| nt|daman: I think 2@C was wet I would have bid 3@C|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell: 4th best? thomas: yeah|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|nt|hlortz: the 7@S contract in the other room on 39 was -2 so 14 IMPs to Nickell|pg|| nt|kareno: That's a very nice 16 - he needs it, too.|pg|| nt|rodal f: A healty contract but could have been nice to see what would have happend at 3NTE|pg|| nt|kareno: 16 opposite 7?|pg|| nt|rodal f: We are a bit oposit by max here Karen:)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: director comes by and passes a message to meckstroth|pg|| nt|ahollan1: when movie is available -- everyone should check Zia at helm in 2N on 40|pg|| nt|kareno: Hmmm.. "meet me in the bar after the game, cutie"?|pg|| nt|rodal f: Seen it:)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell still thinking with his cards folded|pg|| nt|kit: even if North has 4 hearts, 4@H likely not so good|pg|| pc|s8|nt|bridge_one: but same bid (3@H 3@S 3NT)|pg|| nt|robbg: I agree. I don't think they play any conventional 3 level bids.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson tucks his cards into his shirt pocket|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Vugraphzfe: chip looks for someone to turn dummy ... a kibitzer sits in|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: "I've been enlisted"|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h2|nt|Vugraphzfe: this table not as amicable as stansby-martel-dawson-johnson or greco-hampson-grue-cheek earlier. no feeling of camraderie here|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|panja: 2@H could make 8 or 9 or even 10 tricks or 1Nt could be the limit of the hand....so Pass is somewhat of a guess|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|daman: this contract will not be a problem for declarer|pg|| nt|harmon: meckwell all business|pg|| nt|kit: Zia also passed 1NT in open room|pg|| nt|kareno: Going after trick 7|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: kibitzer-waitress brings water for Helgemo and Helness|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness pulls out a card, says "a spade!", plays @S6, shakes his hea|pg|| nt|kareno: I'd like some also. My cats inform me that I am their servant, not the reverse!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: seems not to have gotten board 56 out of his mind yet|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell giving him time to dwell on it|pg|| nt|kareno: I do not keep a private score. I have always hated looking at a bad result every time I open the card so I don't do one.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell: sorry (for the fourth or fifth time tonight)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Kit - how much do the top players try to keep running score guesstimates during a session like this??|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Vugraphzfe: grue: is @CA onside? then you get @H @C @S|pg|| pc|d9|nt|kareno: Meckwell are really all business. Not unpleasant, mind, just not interested in badinage. And the French I don't know - but perhaps it's a language issue as well.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|nt|rodal f: Same as I told Al. I had an other episode on by Zia. Misunderstood Al's comment. Sorry|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cK|nt|kit: I think most good players have an instinctive feel of about how their game is going.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: playing too fast to let me see all the cards - cashed four clubs ending in dummy|pg|| nt|kareno: I keep track if I have a huge deficit to overcome, so I will know how close I think I am getting.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|panja: @h finesse is odds on then, after E follows to all 4|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kareno: Now ... go for the endplay or cash and get a present?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|nt|daman: squeeze|pg|| nt|daman: on West|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|daman: a claimer doink|pg|| nt|kareno: Declarer is squeezed!|pg|| nt|harmon: revrse prent to defense|pg|| nt|harmon: reverse present lol|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: or something equivalent to that|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: long pause again|pg|| nt|kit: but will he risk the contract for the overtrick?|pg|| pc|h9|nt|sybarra: likely a push? or 1 imp |pg|| nt|daman: doink is the sound your computer makes on BBO when there is a claim|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: kibitzer:"it's been a pleasure", Johnson: "we thank you very much"|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|nt|kareno: He had his seven in, though|pg|| mc|7|nt|kareno: Wouldn't east bare the king of hearts if he had it ?|pg|| pg|| qx|o58|st||md|4SKQ52HA653D82C652,S7HQJ7DK75CAKQT97,SAJT8HK4DAQJ94CJ8,S9643HT982DT63C43|sv|b|nt|petergill: Rodwell's @S4 lead should gain one imp for Nickell|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: This is excellent bridge all round, and at a normal pace. Unlike what we saw in the second quarter with Platnick-Diamond and Molberg-Aa. It was excruciatingly slow|pg|| mb|1H|nt|Walddk2: Only Peter Gill and PO would have approved|pg|| nt|Walddk2: :)|pg|| mb|2C|nt|petergill: In this position, many top experts nowadays play that bidding 1@H or 1@s by South is 4+ cards - it used to show 5+ cards to some oldtimers |pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|fabsayc: the operators want to be done before bars close -oops, they dont close :)|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jcwla: BTW, there is one other tiny little reason why not inviting worked out well on the previous hand: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?hand=Q865+AJ5+QJ8+KQ9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: let me guess, not 15|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|petergill: Thanks Jordan - very interesting!|pg|| nt|petergill: Even the very top experts don't like to downgrade hands, it seems |pg|| nt|petergill: They upgrade, but they don't downgrade|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No, but they upgrade a lot|pg|| nt|fabsayc: we do, we just bid like we dont|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Must be because they think they play so much better, and they are usually right|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|petergill: Zia will make 11 tricks, in due course|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|dK|pg|| nt|petergill: Diamonds will be used as "replacement trumps"|pg|| pc|s5|nt|Walddk2: The Zimmermann team won't mind flat'ish hands like this one|pg|| mc|11|nt|Walddk2: However, I would be surprised if we don't get to see a swingy board before the close|pg|| nt|petergill: Also, Hamman doesn't like to "not open 1NT" by downgrading |pg|| pg|| qx|c58|st||md|4SKQ52HA653D82C652,S7HQJ7DK75CAKQT97,SAJT8HK4DAQJ94CJ8,S9643HT982DT63C43|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfe: chip returns just in time|pg|| nt|daman: for the hearing impaired or for those with the sound off it is |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: making up for lost time in a hurry|pg|| nt|kareno: So declarer must take his seven tricks.|pg|| nt|kit: 5 to 1 odds -- probably worth it.|pg|| mb|p|nt|panja: E would have to have only 1@H for the lost finesse to hur..|pg|| nt|panja: and that had to be @HK..|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|robbg: There was a fine bridge player from Chicago with that nickname.|pg|| nt|robbg: Don't know how he came by it, but when he graduated medical school he went from being "doink" to Dr. Doink.|pg|| nt|daman: a spec says....I thought "doink" would be the tag of an inept partner|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: martel deliberating, gesturing, fingering his cards|pg|| nt|daman: that is funny Robb|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i was actually asking because of that comment about Helness dwelling on 3N going down -- so wondering more from leader perspective of possible match slipping away|pg|| nt|kit: he knew East had only 1 heart|pg|| mb|1D|nt|robbg: He was not an inept partner. I can attest to that.|pg|| nt|dburn: no particular need to worry, especially with Terje Aa at the other table|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+ bal|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 4@H is hard to make - need a present by defence|pg|| nt|robbg: nice club staper!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: double shows club suit and @H tolerance|pg|| nt|panja: 1Nt down 1 is 4 IMps, finesse won is 1 IMP...odds do favour it..|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Rod's PASS=0-5 HCP or trap pass|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|xenya: what was wrong with 2@C by N?|pg|| nt|xenya: over 1@S?|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: or even now?|pg|| nt|daman: double was snapdragon and denies 3@Hs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: lots of perfunctory alerts but very few questions at this table|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N=SemiForce|pg|| nt|rodal f: Tor Helness wanted to play pro at blidge for a long time, but didn't do before he got a small stroke.|pg|| nt|kit: N-S have good 4@S game in face of strong 1@C opening -- can they find it?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: meckwell convention card DOES say - can always upgrade to 1@C [with good playing strength]|pg|| mb|4C|nt|rodal f: The mighty Roland hand? 20-20|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: http://www.bridgeguys.com/Doubles/SnapDragon.html|pg|| nt|robbg: Second dbl seems right to me|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: lew's note said @C without saying how many; johnson held up five fingers and then counted 6,7,8,9 with his other hand|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: martel thinking again|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but will pass|pg|| nt|daman: I would not overcall 1@H with that trash in front of an unpassed partner|pg|| mb|4S|nt|robbg: I think he has to let partner off the hook. He described his hand within a card or so.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue: are leads standard? (yes)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: nice bid by Helgemo -- and they got there|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Great bid!!|pg|| pc|c4|nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson leads @D8 without bothering to put a pass card on the tray|pg|| nt|daman: that means he is passing|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: chip put spades on his right. johnson points at the @H: 'that's trump isn't it?'|pg|| nt|panja: good bid..but wonder why they arranged for N to play it|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|nt|rodal f: Normal leadis a new @D but @H A give|pg|| nt|rodal f: @CA|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness laughs at "you strong clubbers"|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c3|nt|bridge_one: 2@h directly ove 1Nt giving long suit weak hand ?|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|daman: Q is suit preference :) |pg|| pc|cT|pc|sJ|nt|Vugraphzfe: counting 25 HCP between his hand and dummy|pg|| nt|kit: Meckstroth was a little unlucky that his normal reopening call allowed the opponents to find a game.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell exhibits slight discomfort, shifts in his seat|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: seldom can infer anything from his body language so the slightest crack in the facade is a revelation|pg|| nt|kit: However 4@S was reached in other room also|pg|| pc|d6|nt|daman: and partner obeys|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: martel rubbing his mustache and looking worried|pg|| nt|dinos1: another quick board|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: "you're going to get @C @H @S, eventually throw @D away on the long @H"|pg|| pc|sA|nt|dburn: this time, would have worked better to lead partner's non-suit|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|Vugraphzfe: tone of uncertainty as meck calls "king?"|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|kareno: They picked him clean. |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: brutally nice defense|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|daman: up Simba|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: 9 boards scored -- only 14 imps exchanged|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: lost track of meckstroth's pitches - he doesn't like to let anyone see - but they're inconsequential this time|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and this another push or 1 imp|pg|| mc|11|nt|daman: making 3|pg|| pg|| qx|o59|st||md|1SAK8HA2DAK64CK763,ST932HKTDQ87CT542,SQ54H64DT932CQJ98,SJ76HQJ98753DJ5CA|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Did Hamman not say that "experts play badly, the rest even worse"?|pg|| nt|petergill: Yes|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfc: Short break....|pg|| nt|petergill: But in this match everyone is playing very well - they must be better than experts|pg|| nt|petergill: Bob Hamman in wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hamman|pg|| nt|petergill: http://www.acbl.org/nabc/index.php?a=2010&b=Spring&c=daily_bulletins has Daily Bulletins, Team Rosters and 3/4 time scores|pg|| mb|2N|nt|xenya: 2N-3N will be a success here|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: no zia lead?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Here N-S have the values for game but they can't make any. However, 3NT will likely roll in regardless|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: No-one can find @HK lead|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Apart from 10,632 BBO'ers of course|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Walddk2: If anyone finds @HK against you, it's time to give up the game|pg|| nt|xenya: @H lead might have raised suspicions :)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade lead requires five to be a success, heart might work with as little as Q9xxx in partners hand|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|h7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c59|st||md|1SAK8HA2DAK64CK763,ST932HKTDQ87CT542,SQ54H64DT932CQJ98,SJ76HQJ98753DJ5CA|sv|o|nt|dinos1: cd take @cA and switch to @d|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N=20-21|pg|| mb|3N|nt|dinos1: then +1 is only d/dummy|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cheek places 1@D on table, greco moves it onto the tray|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: he opened 1@S in 3rd seat because they now play 15-17 in 3rd|pg|| nt|dburn: on 23, Aa reached six clubs about half an hour ago - the play may be taking him some time|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: or so I was told|pg|| nt|daman: aha|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: from my glance at the NS card it is 15-17 in 3rd, vul only|pg|| nt|daman: 15-17 only 3rd seat VUL|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: on 42 Hamman lead @H against 2@S so declarer prevailed|pg|| nt|kareno: IF I chose to open that south hand, I'd bid 1@d|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: michel barely had 1NT out of the box when meckstroth's pass hit the tray|pg|| pc|s2|nt|panja: E was finessed out of bidding...|pg|| pc|s4|nt|robbg: I am not sure they like weak NT with 5 card major. I know Edgar Kaplan did not.|pg|| nt|daman: then I wonder why he didn't open 1NT?|pg|| nt|daman: French influence maybe|pg|| nt|daman: they NEVER open 1NT with a 5 card major|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: I am not as high above the table as at some venues so my angle sometimes makes it hard to read|pg|| nt|rodal f: 2@S to come and a possible -1+|pg|| nt|kareno: That's the luck of who's declarer. A heart lead destroys this contract.|pg|| nt|kit: Good players would have found the king of hearts lead :)|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|rodal f: -1 I ment|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|Vugraphzfe: martel points at the 2@S card and laughs, same explanation as before|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|bridge_one: better to play in @S that in NT here|pg|| nt|daman: maybe he was going to treat it as a strong NT depending upon pd's reponse|pg|| nt|daman: a chunky 14|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson: what's he say about his minors? grue: could be 4441 but at least 4-4|pg|| nt|dburn: Hampson content to have pushed his opponents up a level, but this time 3@s would have made|pg|| nt|dinos1: @hQ?|pg|| nt|dburn: or maybe it wouldn't - that fourth heart may be an eventual loser|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson/greco chatting at every chance. this time about lineups for 3rd/4th quarters|pg|| nt|kareno: Depends on the screens, of course :)|pg|| nt|kit: Note that declarer might not get the clubs right, so may have only 2 club tricks|pg|| nt|panja: if a @H shift...S must still guess Clubs?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness has another yawn. laughter breaks out at the cayne-seamon-fantoni-nunes table|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this hand one of reasons Rodwell still uses strong 2N opening -- but this south hand too strong for 19-20 range -- then East would get to show @H|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|robbg: aceless. I think it was the 5 card major.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: when the screen is opened, grue asks cheek what 2major by opener is. cheek: 14 or 15 with a singleton|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cheek still planning, grue/hampson still discussing inferences in this auction|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: michel: I'm sorry|pg|| nt|kareno: This won't fetch by a lot.|pg|| nt|hlortz: karen would you bid 1@D 1@S 1N or rebid 2@C?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if bidding 4@S anyway -- why bother with 2@C??|pg|| nt|kareno: I would rebid 2@c|pg|| nt|kareno: I HATE rebidding 1nt with a singleton in partner's suit.|pg|| nt|kareno: I HATE rebidding five-card suits.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: thomas asks rodwell what they lead from doubleton; rodwell points thumb up|pg|| pc|h2|nt|kit: he can recover even if he guesses the clubs wrong but ducking a round of hearts|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|nt|rodal f: Since a spec came with 3-3@S it's flat. The % for that?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ady: might have done better to duck club|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: or work out what to lead before taking it. moves one card to the end of his hand|pg|| nt|hlortz: me too but rebidding 1n with a stiff @S seems popular these days :)|pg|| nt|panja: even 3 Spades and two Diamonds won't tell declarer much|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|daman: that doesn't deter most of us|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: chip sighs and nods when CA appears|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco grimaces after cheek ruffs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: as if he knows they should have competed further|pg|| pc|s8|nt|panja: so it will come to a @C guess|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: stansby did it earlier with a note that 1NT could be offshape|pg|| nt|rodal f: 3-3=35.5% and 4-2/2-4=48.5% rest are smaller|pg|| nt|kit: If he believes the carding in hearts he will get it right|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| nt|dinos1: @h now?|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson detaches @SA then puts it back, folds his hand, leans forward over the table|pg|| nt|daman: he knows West doesn't have the @H Ace he would have opened if he did|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson reclining and closing his eyes|pg|| pc|d8|nt|daman: Sominex coup put your opps to sleep and make a false claim|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|kit: However, now he has set up enemy spade trick, so holdup doesn't help|pg|| pc|c8|nt|robbg: worked|pg|| nt|daman: yep|pg|| nt|hlortz: since he has 6 @S and only 4@H and got a @S lead he may infer @H length on right so pick @C correctly|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|c7|nt|dinos1: 8 - dont return @h|pg|| mc|9|nt|kit: but of course he has the info to get it right|pg|| pg|| qx|o60|st||md|2S763HJ862DAQT2C95,SAJ82HQ4DJ74CAQT4,SKT95HK73DK98C762,SQ4HAT95D653CKJ83|sv|n|nt|jcwla: good detective work|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: 2@C is quite high enough - well stopped|pg|| nt|jcwla: great stop|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: Here is a swing board. Meckwell in 3NT as they often are on sub-minimum values|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But it will not make|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 5 IMPs worth gold at this point|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|petergill: Previous board: In Beijing in 2008, 1NT - 3NT: I led a spade from 10xxx to lose 12 imps when David Gold led a heart from Kxx - I later checked out the hand - most of the world's ...|pg|| nt|petergill: top players - Helgemo etc - led a heart. So perhaps @HKx lead is not so far out. |pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|nt|Walddk2: So the Nickell team needs to create two double-digit swings in four boards. Tough ask|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| mc|9|nt|Walddk2: I think there is big difference between Kx and Kxx|pg|| pg|| qx|c60|st||md|2S763HJ862DAQT2C95,SAJ82HQ4DJ74CAQT4,SKT95HK73DK98C762,SQ4HAT95D653CKJ83|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfe: grue routinely pulling small cards without explicit calls from cheek|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: other room was on break -- just finished bidding 59|pg|| nt|panja: @H could have been 54..could they not?|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: all roads lead to 4@S|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|daman: and 5@H is a useful sacrifice|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Vugraphzfe: 2@H "less than game-forcing"|pg|| nt|kareno: Not with that carding on defense I think.|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth leaves the room again|pg|| mb|3N|nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson arrives to kibitz grue|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N=7-11|pg|| nt|kareno: South must be related to Irving Litvack!!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: thomas: 2nd from bad suits but top from two small|pg|| nt|rodal f: Tja from S but max 1 IMP out|pg|| mb|p|nt|rodal f: brb|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: surprised Walter passed he loves to bid|pg|| nt|robbg: I think this was the paved road to 4@s|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson's note says "less than game-forcing, up to 11"|pg|| nt|kareno: But he's damaged that suit for the defense - if they lead it again declarer gets two tricks.|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson asks leads, cheek: 4th best, 2nd from 4 or more baby|pg|| nt|kit: The revealing Stayman auction will keep North off a major-suit lead|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|nt|daman: 7 more to Fleisher 1NT -3 on 11 in the OR a 'semi-forcing' 1NT which was passed|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: suggesting they might force game with 12 opposite a possible 11 balanced|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|kareno: Spec points out he can get two tricks on his own now in hearts.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|daman: I think 2@H was a matchpoint bid|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|dinos1: now @h?|pg|| nt|dburn: some guessing required|pg|| nt|phil: @h or @c as long as he guesses @d's|pg|| nt|dinos1: S may duck @h|pg|| nt|phil: no way|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson has his sportcoat off since the break, presenting a different look with black T-shirt and ripped jeans|pg|| nt|dburn: he may, but he probably should not|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco toying with his cards and thinking|pg|| nt|kit: I was wondering if declarer would win club in dummy and lead diamond to jack|pg|| pc|d3|nt|phil: W is known to have only one more spade stop and North has a likely entry|pg|| nt|dinos1: no way? 4@h tricks in dummy|pg|| nt|dburn: yes, but he knows that there are four heart tricks in dummy whether he ducks or not|pg|| nt|dinos1: he knows but not dcl|pg|| nt|phil: I assume the @s6 was standard present count anyway|pg|| nt|dburn: well, if declarer is going to play on hearts anyway, he is going to continue playing on them for at least one more round if @hQ holds|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cheek still bouncing his leg and working it out|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|nt|robbg: I think the auction to 4@s would have been challenging absent the 2@h bid.|pg|| nt|kit: aha -- now he tries it|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|daman: I agree Robb|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: martel points but|pg|| nt|kareno: It's a good ploy|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness staring at ceiling again|pg|| nt|kit: However, if North punts with a club defense should still be okay|pg|| nt|panja: but with @CQT marked with the Declarer......it might not be as difficult to get the picture right for N|pg|| pc|c7|nt|rodal f: Still @S and @H is unactuell to play from N|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes. Should declarer have played on clubs first?|pg|| nt|kit: If North leads a heart, however, South better not play jack|pg|| pc|cK|nt|Vugraphzfe: looks around a minute before calling|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|Vugraphzfe: greco's eyes get big when HT pops|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|daman: draw trumps and doink|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|kit: Now I'm sure North knows what is going on|pg|| nt|panja: no harm in being passive even at this stage|pg|| nt|hlortz: if 2@S was smith, helness ought not be fooled in @C surely|pg|| pc|c6|nt|kit: Declarer known to have ace of spades, AQ of clubs, queen of hearts |pg|| pc|c3|pc|h8|nt|kit: But this is better for defense, as now declarer may try heart hook|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth back with coffee|pg|| nt|hlortz: better s to throw a @S than that 2nd @C|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell shifts in his seat|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|panja: he should not, considering N's passive play|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|phil: unfortunately 4-2 hearts equalizes the minor suit count|pg|| nt|dinos1: now dcl will give @cAxxx to N|pg|| nt|dburn: why should he do any such thing?|pg|| nt|dinos1: N lead @s w/o entries?|pg|| pc|d9|nt|dburn: North would have discarded in the same way with @dQxx, @cA10x|pg|| mc|7|nt|dburn: well, North has to lead with or without entries - the rules require it|pg|| nt|chick: but not necessarily spades :)|pg|| nt|phil: I wonder if NS could have carded this way with 5-3 the other way|pg|| nt|phil: in spades|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco folds his hand, sighs, and rests his head in his hand|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson yawning and rubbing his face to stay awake|pg|| nt|dburn: stay awake? what time is it in Reno?|pg|| nt|phil: 5:00 PM|pg|| nt|phil: the relevant question is what time he got to bed...|pg|| nt|dburn: then he may manage the next hour or so at least|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco finally picks up his cards and sighs again|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cheek on his side of the screen is unreadable, bouncing his leg and looking down like he has done most of the quarter|pg|| nt|phil: Hamspon played some with Gitelman in an earlier match - so he's put in his share of boards|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco flips his pencil in the air like maybe it will land pointing the way|pg|| pg|| qx|o61|st||md|3SAQT742HQT87DTC74,S65H954D83CJT9865,S983H632DAQ974CKQ,SKJHAKJDKJ652CA32|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcwla: Meckstroth passed the 2NT.|pg|| pc|s7|nt|petergill: No @HK10 doubleton for South to led this time - perhaps a spade will do?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: So he will go one less down|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3 IMPs back to Nickell. 17 behind with 3 to go|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|petergill: @S8 might confuse South, who might expect @s3 natural count from 983|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|petergill: Still, it makes no difference on this layout|pg|| nt|petergill: South's @C7 - Smith Signal high club = I like spades|pg|| nt|petergill: Smith Signal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_signal|pg|| nt|petergill: Zia - Hamman have Smith Echo on their System Summary|pg|| nt|fabsayc: reverse smith may be better|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|petergill: The logic behind 3NT is "if the clubs run and it makes, great" and "if the clubs don't run, then 2NT will fail, so bidding 3NT costs only 100 extra"|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c5|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|petergill: As is the case here, just 3 imps|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c61|st||md|3SAQT742HQT87DTC74,S65H954D83CJT9865,S983H632DAQ974CKQ,SKJHAKJDKJ652CA32|sv|b|nt|yusufb: WD|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Grue: should have pitched a diamond|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: brief post mortem in french|pg|| nt|kit: E-W found nice stop at 2@C in other room, so more IMPs for Zimmerman|pg|| nt|ahollan1: T Bessis playing 2@C West on 60|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: sorry kit - you hit enter first|pg|| mb|2N|nt|dburn: and credit to Curtis Cheek for his defence - that was very good bridge all round|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: grue/hampson postmorteming again|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N=19-20|pg|| nt|kareno: Time is running out for Nickell|pg|| mb|p|nt|panja: and there is no way for Ew to play in 3@C now|pg|| mb|p|pc|s4|nt|phil: I have a hunch this hand will breeze by quicker than the last|pg|| nt|kareno: Ahhh I could translate if I could only hear it :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: I could barely hear it here, rushed whispers|pg|| pc|s5|nt|robbg: Convenient hand to stayman and bid 2@s over 2@d invitational. Much less convenient when west's majors are switched.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson alerts and writes "no @C stopper, I think"|pg|| pc|s8|nt|robbg: I don't understand 2@d. Aren't you supposed to pass with a stopper?|pg|| nt|dburn: well, maybe he should have pitched a diamond - but this was bluff and double-bluff|pg|| nt|rodal f: Damn 13 good at N and the end?|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: walter agrees with you|pg|| nt|robbg: Maybe 2@d shows an "even" number of stoppers|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco, smiling: this is what, 28-29?|pg|| nt|kit: This will be quick -- declarer has to go after clubs, and defense takes 7 tricks -- maybe 8 as declarer's hand gets squeezed|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth exits|pg|| pc|cA|nt|sybarra: lol Rob |pg|| pc|c7|nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson turns his head away from the table wondering what's going on|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson didn't pause over the double - didn't seem to be looking for the 760|pg|| pc|c5|nt|dburn: Greco no doubt was wondering why the opponents had let him count the hand - they would perhaps do that only if North had @dQx|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|harmon: nice hand meck had to lead from!!!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: michel takes his time looking at dummy|pg|| nt|kareno: Declarer should take quite a few tricks. |pg|| nt|rodal f: RodMech ain't gone get any IMP at this one|pg|| nt|panja: so would be down two, even after the 'friendly' lead|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|robbg: I am getting too much feedback to respond individually, but it is fairly (not completely) standard to xx for penalty, pass with stopper, after which partner redoubles to ask you to ...|pg|| nt|robbg: complete description, and make normal bid with no stopper.|pg|| nt|bridge_one: 3Nt better that 4@s - west is afraid because don't have a sure entry out (K@h can find A over)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson excuses himself from the table|pg|| nt|sybarra: I wonder what Stansby would have led vs 3 nt|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: and directs a kibitzer to sit in|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, 3N is cold but 4@S more interesting|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|bridge_one: the best lead for defence|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: kibitzer asks what's the contract so he can spread dummy correctly|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson Hmmms loudly when dummy hits|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|kit: maybe down 3|pg|| nt|panja: can discard @HK if need be..|pg|| nt|kit: never mind -- no pressure with good clubs in dummy -- sorry|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness stretches, puts hands behind head, sighs|pg|| nt|rodal f: Well. Rodwell still need to play|pg|| nt|panja: 5 @S, @DA and @CK..|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco: well played, grue: thank you|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: trying to decide if Helgemo @C plays really were Smith|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h5|nt|daman: they are in 3NT in the OR as well|pg|| nt|bridge_one: they are in 4NT :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: table 3 finishes and leaves with 47 on the clock|pg|| nt|daman: this match has been close not many challenging hands|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: voices filtering in from corridor|pg|| nt|daman: I didn't mea 'as well'|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s2|nt|kit: West raised to 3NT in other room, so likely 3 IMPs to Nickell|pg|| mc|6|nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson returns|pg|| nt|bridge_one: J in @S and @D - after @c for the K in the dummy - @d forcing the honor, ruff and @c versus Q in the dummy- A in @C and @H - Q in @h, discarding 2 @h over @C and @D|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness/rodwell discussing that 4@S can make|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth not back. helness: what's the problem? we have lots of time|pg|| nt|panja: one kib asking whether one shouldn't ALWAYS double a passed 2Nt bid? good idea at MP's if you need MPs, at IMPS, a bit too strong a view|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: in Q3, meckstroth took every opportunity to leave the table.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: for the first part of Q4, sally was sitting next to jeff so he stayed around while dummy|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, then if you know you are getting doubled, you should pass 2nt with most hands :)|pg|| nt|panja: and how will the disclosure be in that case?|pg|| nt|panja: Pass with an alert 'beware'?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth returns. NS chatting thru the screen again. meckstroth asks about the result|pg|| pg|| qx|o62|st||md|4SK542H954DKT84CA9,SQ86H6DAJ732CQT73,SAT7HAJ832D6CKJ42,SJ93HKQT7DQ95C865|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: This may create something|pg|| mb|1D|nt|petergill: Tor Helness is in 3@H in CR|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: A good stop on this layout|pg|| nt|petergill: Light lead-directing 3rd seat not vul opening, very popular among experts|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|petergill: 2@D good raise|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|petergill: @DK looks badly placed, but Zia often like to try 3NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Zia may try 3NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He won't like to table @DK in a heart contract|pg|| nt|petergill: He will be looking at that @D108 closely|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|petergill: 3@H or 3NT or 3@D, they are his options - with such good @H's, East might dbl 3NT|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|petergill: 3@D = passing the buck to partner|pg|| mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: good guess Peter|pg|| mb|4H|mb|d|nt|fabsayc: double of 3nt seems very reasonable by east|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: as is the dbl of 4@H|pg|| nt|fabsayc: should settle matters|pg|| nt|petergill: East knows that his son is in his twenties and might be light, but still has an easy Dbl|pg|| pc|s3|nt|sunsamvar: this will seal the match for Z|pg|| nt|jcwla: Passed the buck, then took it back. Weak trumps, @D wastage at suit, and a high level just what Doctor Z. ordered.|pg|| nt|petergill: Declarer can cross ruff for quite a lot of tricks, this is not too horrible|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|petergill: If only dummy had @S9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|nt|petergill: The slow route to 3NT suggested doubt about 3NT and led Hamman to remove to 4@H - perhaps a faster route to 3NT might not have been removed?|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: trump now|pg|| nt|petergill: If West plays a @h instead of a @s, East might later be endplayed|pg|| nt|petergill: East is going to be stripped of non-trumps and endplayed to some extent, whatever the defence does|pg|| nt|Walddk2: In the other room no-one doubled 3@H of course, so Helness played for a normal heart break|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You can make 3 if you know hearts are 4-1|pg|| pc|h6|nt|petergill: Thomas Bessis is really good at identifying Critical Points and stopping to think at the right time - he has a fair idea of the hand and is going through the play on a @S or a @H ...|pg|| nt|petergill: return |pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| nt|petergill: If @DQ is played, then @D9 can be pinned later|pg|| nt|petergill: so East might even exit a club = least evil play|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I think he will. Playing partner for @S10 is very dangerous|pg|| nt|Walddk2: And it will lead to disaster here|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: As will the jack|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It's not over yet, folks|pg|| pc|d4|nt|sunsamvar: chance of making now|pg|| pc|d2|nt|petergill: Declarer can make now, I think|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d9|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Sure he can, and he will|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|petergill: @DQ would have beaten it - only a spade or heart play by East was fatal|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|h5|pc|cT|pg|| nt|petergill: This sort of thing is like chicken feed to Bob Hamman|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: the match has become interesting now|pg|| mc|10|nt|Walddk2: 5 IMPs, 2 to go. Don't go anywhere!|pg|| pg|| qx|c62|st||md|4SK542H954DKT84CA9,SQ86H6DAJ732CQT73,SAT7HAJ832D6CKJ42,SJ93HKQT7DQ95C865|sv|o|mb|p|nt|daman: very fortunate to gain an IMPs|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: martel and dawson very friendly, sharing laughs throughout the match|pg|| nt|sybarra: looks more of a rock crusher than it is |pg|| nt|daman: IMP *|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|robbg: one major I would guess|pg|| nt|sybarra: this "multi" over nt |pg|| nt|ahollan1: Michel Bessis played SMALL @C at trick 2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: should really go through vugraph archives to see what meckwell need to pass in third seat white|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10/11-15 2+@D|pg|| mb|1H|nt|sybarra: just like the opening of 2 @D |pg|| mb|1N|nt|ady: more long diamonds and likely 3NT again|pg|| nt|rodal f: Ure nice with all now Karen:) WD all over the line. BUT have been at the 2 last.|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|daman: 2@S = p/c|pg|| mb|d|nt|dburn: this may go similarly quickly|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: and again, meckstroth's pass beats michel's to the tray|pg|| mb|3C|an|natural try for game|nt|sybarra: '2 @S also says "I have a better hand if your suit if H!'s |pg|| nt|daman: they might be unhappy with this result|pg|| nt|sybarra: @H's |pg|| nt|daman: gin for 4@S|pg|| nt|daman: makes 5 actually|pg|| nt|panja: interesting 2@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Now Rodwell might think about competing to 3@D,|pg|| mb|3H|nt|dburn: and Grue will have a chance to congratulate Hampson in turn on some fine play|pg|| nt|ady: heavy in wests shortage hence 3NT in spite of diamond fit|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco picks up pass card and puts it in his lap|pg|| nt|kit: oops -- Helness, overbid here|pg|| mb|p|nt|rodal f: 3@H pre empt so just helping NS here|pg|| nt|kareno: They would arrive at 4@s with or without that preempt.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: grue: does 3@D say you like it? hampson: yeah|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = best @H raise|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|daman: makes slam |pg|| pc|dJ|nt|ady: 10 tricks|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|sybarra: can make a lot of @D's like 6 |pg|| nt|rodal f: Nope. Not after 2@D from Geir=good lift|pg|| nt|ahollan1: panja did you think Helgemo should DBL?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell asks to see everyone's cards to trick 1|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|Vugraphzfe: sorry, @H9 had been led and thomas was planning the play|pg|| nt|kareno: Eric is a slow player so Jeff tries in any way he can to speed the game.|pg|| nt|rodal f: For fun. NS had 300 in by 3@H|pg|| nt|panja: not easy this, where N pitch his third Spade?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell: just going to look this over|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kareno: Double 1@d? I'm an overcaller |pg|| nt|kit: I don't think North hand worth the game try, particularly with 1NT bid behind him|pg|| nt|rodal f: Then 3@C comes in as a positive trail bid|pg|| nt|panja: best chance is two @D ruffs..pinning the @DQ in the process|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no i thought panja meant 1N-2@D strange so maybe thinking 1N-DBL|pg|| pc|s3|nt|panja: no..not strange, just interesting....it isn't a strong hand really with the @Dk under W|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth asks if thomas's spade length is unlimited. thomas: "unlimited"|pg|| nt|harmon: just for fun lose 3-4 imps everytime|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: seamon enlists one of our spare kibs to turn dummy at table 5|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|daman: I would have bid Blackwood personally lol :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson dropped @SQ before martel discarded|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ah -- but 1@D doesn't really show @D in Precision|pg|| nt|panja: still...then with two K's under the opener..|pg|| nt|panja: @HA now perhaps..and after seeing the bad break....aim to ruff out two @D pinning @DQ, using @C finesse..|pg|| nt|kit: I think he can still bring this home if he takes the club hook|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness riffling his cards|pg|| nt|panja: the only uncertain issue is the @d9...but then...it has to be with E to make after @H break 4-1..has it not?|pg|| nt|panja: also, @ST could be useful now..|pg|| nt|hlortz: after a@C j@C k@C @C east is wierdly squeezed...|pg|| pc|s7|nt|sybarra: pard may have no @D's of course |pg|| nt|daman: 7 IMPs to Dawson|pg|| nt|daman: and a triumph for the weak NT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|harmon: why cant he just ruff a d cash K of s k of c ruff a c ruff a d and 4th club|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: after identical start -- Zia sitting South bids 3N -- Hamman 4@H Michel Bessis 8@H|pg|| pc|s4|nt|sybarra: and one more for good measure |pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|kit: N-S in 4@H doubled in other room -- likely a match-ender|pg|| nt|kareno: Now he's conceded down 1|pg|| nt|panja: y...I was wondering whether 3@H could get chopped because of the state of the match...|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, gosh yes.|pg|| pc|c6|nt|kareno: I said 'yes' to 'match ender.'|pg|| nt|panja: unlikely to make now, N does not know trump break....if he tries to find it..it would be too late|pg|| nt|rodal f: -50 or -150 make a possible -2 or-4 (otherboard not seen) So what to do by Helness matamatic?|pg|| nt|kit: Unlikely Rodwell would ever double 3@H regardless of state of match -- he has seen his partner's 3rd seat openers|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: now fidgeting with his pen|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|harmon: he can still make|pg|| nt|panja: ok, 3rd seat opener..|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|h3|pc|d9|pg|| nt|hlortz: he can still make if he guesses rod's shape|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: when the cards come out they stay out for a millisecond|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, he can make it!|pg|| nt|panja: two ruffs and then Club will endplay E still...but then why play for 41?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: you've kept up admirably John!!|pg|| nt|panja: he could as well play @HA and then try to discard a @C on @S...looking for 32 @H break|pg|| nt|kareno: Really, many thanks to John for an excellent job including giving us the atmosphere at the table.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: too right Karen|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness fidgets with his cards, sighs, leans back again. meckstroth and helgemo scarcely move|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|mc|8|nt|kareno: And thanks to my fellow commentatos for their wit and wisdom. To the specs for keeping us awake!!|pg|| pg|| qx|o63|st||md|1S4HJ965DKT743CQJ5,SJ653HATDJ98C9763,SAQ92HQ87DAQ652CT,SKT87HK432DCAK842|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|petergill: 5 imps - 2 boards - is this another of those miracle comebacks which the World Champion Nickell team is famous for|pg|| mb|3D|nt|Walddk2: Going down 4 undoubled I am told|pg|| nt|petergill: Will East doubled again?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Meck is in 4@S in the other room|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: 4@S in CR|pg|| mb|d|nt|Walddk2: Undo again please|pg|| nt|jcwla: "Me or your lying eyes?"|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Zia bid 3@D|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 3d by south|pg|| nt|petergill: 3@D by S, not W ????|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: yes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Richard?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|petergill: 3@D makes|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: he shd and has|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|petergill: Repeated @d leads cause chaos for declarer|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i dont think he needs to go down 4 however|pg|| nt|petergill: There is scope for Thomas to gain a couple of imps perhaps|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: can scramble 8 tricks i think|pg|| nt|fabsayc: ruff cash club ace, heart to ace club towards dummy for example|pg|| pc|s7|nt|Walddk2: Missed opportunity but I don't think North has a double|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| nt|petergill: CR: @DA ruffed, heart to ace, spade to king, @CA, @CK ruffed, roof fell in|pg|| nt|petergill: The roof doesn't often fall in on Jeff Meckstroth|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Besides, you will play the hand differently if you are doubled and likely get out for 300|pg|| nt|petergill: True|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jcwla: Last hand has opportunity for IMPs to exchange hands.|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: and if does the roof might get damabed further :)|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: damaged|pg|| pc|cA|nt|petergill: Mckwell have a good score of 620 on Bd 64 - there's some scope for a save - hold onto your seatbelts|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Anyone know how many extra boards in the event of a tie?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 8|pg|| pc|cK|nt|petergill: Martin's (fabsayc) point about leading towards @CA is a good one|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| nt|petergill: By finessing @S10 instead of @SK, Thomas is doing a little bit better than Meckstroth so far|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c9|nt|fabsayc: third club is a mistake however|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|petergill: @H best|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|petergill: discard I mean|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h9|pc|c3|nt|petergill: Well played, just -50|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sA|mc|9|nt|petergill: 9 imps, 300 to 620 is 8 imps|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Board 64 is a vulnerable game, so it does not matter much if the difference is 5 or 7 IMPs now|pg|| pg|| qx|c63|st||md|1S4HJ965DKT743CQJ5,SJ653HATDJ98C9763,SAQ92HQ87DAQ652CT,SKT87HK432DCAK842|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfe: Johnson: "I got a sense from the way Dennis pitched he had ace-fifth of diamonds"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson: good thing you didn't bid more, greco: yes it is|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: nothing hand but meckstroth couldn't know that|pg|| nt|kareno: To the ACBL for allowing us to show their great events. And to BBO for this wonderful platform to see them on.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: most fidgety World Champ i ever kibitzed was Branco playing with the cool collected Chagas|pg|| nt|kareno: And of course to Jan Martel for organizing the vugraph shows.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: sorry I can't follow the norwegian. words exchanged NS after almost every hand now|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 14-16|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|nt|Vugraphzfe: believe 1D shows 4+|pg|| mb|2D|nt|daman: 3NT by North is not the worstcontract in the world|pg|| mb|2S|nt|sybarra: that wont work now |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: Stansby writes something in tiny block capitals then covers it up with another page from the notepad|pg|| mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: same auction in other room go figure|pg|| mb|4S|nt|kareno: lol|pg|| nt|kit: likely to get to 4@S -- unclear to me whether this makes or not|pg|| nt|panja: difficult to make @D force out big trumps in E hand|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness looks displeased. has had a few tricky contracts go sour on him|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: n/s have 10 tricks in diamonds|pg|| mb|p|nt|rodal f: And a coffe board two Al|pg|| nt|kareno: Nice falsecard by Jeff Meckstroth.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: groans contemplating his lead|pg|| pc|dA|nt|sybarra: got to dash all cu for a later session |pg|| nt|panja: with 4 trumps...playing the long side suit to force Decl...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth manages to say "thanks"|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for all of the tough contracts we've seen still only 22 imps exchanged this set|pg|| pc|s7|nt|daman: they players like to keep the VG operators in the dark|pg|| nt|daman: the*|pg|| nt|kit: still, can afford to lose 2 spades and 1 club -- but I agree, will probably fail|pg|| pc|d3|nt|bridge_one: sry - i was disconnected|pg|| nt|daman: the D has lots of time to get their tricks no?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: more Q&A between Johnson and Stansby|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson writes 1444 and Stansby nods|pg|| nt|daman: this is a key board for this session if they make this they will add a dozen IMPs|pg|| nt|dinos1: direct 2@h bid by W wd work as trf to 3@d|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson: forgot to mention my best suit|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|robbg: Hard to find a 9th trick here|pg|| nt|xenya: that doesn't seem likely though|pg|| nt|daman: I think he will try a @H to the King quickly and go down like a man|pg|| nt|dburn: curious - thought South would bid 3@d there, but perhaps he fancies his chances against hearts|pg|| nt|dburn: unfortunately for him at least, I don't think his chances against hearts are all that good|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: in the same tone of voice every hand he declares|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but Roland and Peter Gill just announced Hamman in position to make 4@HX on 62|pg|| nt|ahollan1: standby|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, my!!|pg|| nt|kit: 4@H doubled might make in other room!|pg|| pc|h2|nt|bridge_one: @C help but isn't sufficient|pg|| pc|h6|nt|robbg: Dawson isn't quite clever enough to duck the @hK here.|pg|| pc|hA|nt|daman: or a woman not being sexist|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|kareno: Not a very exciting hand :)|pg|| nt|harmon: Im excited!!!!|pg|| nt|kareno: :)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|robbg: now this has a chance|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: martel reading novel|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|daman: I am willing to bet Walter plays a @H when he gets in |pg|| nt|kareno: I have to tell you that if I had to pick a partner to play for my life, it would definitely be Hamman!|pg|| pc|cA|nt|dburn: and nor does he, if he thinks he has to underlead @dAK in order to beat it |pg|| pc|c5|nt|dinos1: thk dcl is wondering why they let him play 2@h having 9 @d's|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue resting his head on the table while greco tanks|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| nt|kareno: My cat Stella in my lap is wondering why somebody doesn't claim :)|pg|| nt|hlortz: too much information harmon :) :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this is when Larry Cohen would talk about IMP vs BAM [or that other non-IMP scoring method]|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|nt|daman: if not? he is toast|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson wakes up to pull @CA then leans back and closes eyes again|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: clock on 34|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco to table: sorry|pg|| pc|c7|nt|robbg: I would not take the other side of that bet, but I still think it was Stansby's best play.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: helness: hang on I didn't see those (to first @C trick)|pg|| nt|kit: oh dear -- now going down many|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: amazing their eyes are fast enough to see some of the tricks late in the play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: wow -- 590 for 12 imps and a 5 imp spread|pg|| nt|kareno: Needed to play second club from hand.|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|daman: tah dah|pg|| nt|robbg: He could always try hearts later.|pg|| pc|s8|nt|kareno: Specs, don't give up your seats!!|pg|| nt|rodal f: Where are u to enter Helness? Pitch the @Ss|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: zimmermann team had a rash of bad luck with late leads. lost a domestic final and then the (NTW?) final to lavazza that way|pg|| pc|h5|nt|daman: someone owes me a coke|pg|| nt|daman: or a bag of jelly beans|pg|| nt|robbg: can still screw this up, but probably won't.|pg|| nt|daman: surely he can't be thinking about what to play|pg|| nt|robbg: which @h|pg|| nt|daman: perhaps the @H pitch by declarer on the 2nd @S has confused him |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: martel turning head side to side as he reads|pg|| nt|robbg: he should have a count on south's hand now.|pg|| nt|daman: 1825 specs hold their breath|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson motionless|pg|| nt|robbg: but doesn't know about @hJ.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: for the curious, Martel reading a Joe Haldeman novel, Worlds|pg|| nt|robbg: the @hK is kind of a giveaway|pg|| nt|daman: the longer he thinks the more he will not play another @H|pg|| nt|daman: if declarer had the J he would never play the K|pg|| nt|robbg: All you people who want to tell me that declarer wouldn't have played the K with the @hJ please tell me what else dawson might be thinking about|pg|| nt|daman: dinner|pg|| nt|robbg: doh|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|nt|dinos1: seems dcl came to conclusion @h are 4-1 |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco shrugs, rolls his eyes|pg|| nt|dinos1: now S shape is clear: 2-4-4-3|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cheek is a poker player, unreadable, can't even tell looking at him that he's on lead|pg|| pc|h9|nt|daman: going for the gusto|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: now greco's turn to think some more. pulls out a card and puts it back|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: shuffling his hand|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: slaps his thigh. apparently was not expecting @H4 exit|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|dinos1: low @h - @sJ|pg|| nt|rodal f: :)|pg|| pc|d5|nt|daman: well done|pg|| pc|h3|nt|chick: Here is a picture of Grue and Cheek in Iceland a year ago: http://reykjavikbridgefestival.com/img/pairs2009.jpg|pg|| nt|dburn: better not do that - better play the club instead|pg|| nt|dinos1: yes - coz S will cover w/Q|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: greco grimaces and shakes his head|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|rodal f: So time for BAM at the semi?:)|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: some of those spots were wrong guesses - these players are bad about letting me see|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h4|nt|kareno: So the question is: how many diamonds can n/s make?|pg|| pc|d4|nt|dinos1: @c ruff - overruff, @d ruff and @sJ - this will make|pg|| nt|dburn: no matter whether he covers or not - this is just down one|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue: have to be getting near the end of this hand|pg|| nt|rodal f: @H10 as a capent?|pg|| mc|6|nt|Vugraphzfe: hampson: can I see the rest of your hand|pg|| nt|rodal f: carpent|pg|| pg|| qx|o64|st||md|2ST852HA72D93C9643,SK964H864DKQJ7C72,SAQ73H9DT84CAJT85,SJHKQJT53DA652CKQ|sv|e|nt|kareno: So this is a few IMPs to Zimm|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 8 it is, but a game swing is enough for Nickell|pg|| nt|jcwla: you might say|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|petergill: North would have done better to play @SA then @d, I think|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|fabsayc: 2@H?|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: 4@SX might even escape for 100?|pg|| mb|4H|nt|Walddk2: What happens if NS take the save in 4@S?|pg|| nt|kareno: And declarer could have arranged to play a second club from hand.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: well apparently they play it fairly sound raise|pg|| nt|petergill: Congratulations to the Zimmerman team|pg|| nt|petergill: Zimmermann|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Last board of the match now; what a thriller it turned out to be|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: Many thanks to Richard, our tireless operator in Reno. Great job!|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s7|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|Walddk2: Also thanks to my excellent fellow commentators: Peter, Sunil, Vladimir and Jordan|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|Walddk2: and Martin of course, sorry|pg|| mc|10|nt|Walddk2: Back in 12 hours and a wee bit. See you then|pg|| nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|jcwla: Thanks Roland, Richard, Vladimir, Peter, Sunil, Martin, and all specs.|pg|| nt|petergill: Pierrre Zimmermann's team has taken over the number one seeding - well done |pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Been a pleasure.|pg|| nt|petergill: Pierre|pg|| nt|fabsayc: we may be headed for a double digit original seed final|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Tx to all specs for ur comments and suggestions|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Results in all matches at http://www.usbf.org/ shortly (we hope)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Bye for now|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 4@SX -2 would have been interesting, right? :)|pg|| nt|petergill: At http://www.acbl.org/nabc/index.php?a=2010&b=Spring&c=daily_bulletins you can click on Team Rosters or Bracket Sheet (3/4 time scores) or Daily Bulletins|pg|| pg|| qx|c64|st||md|2ST852HA72D93C9643,SK964H864DKQJ7C72,SAQ73H9DT84CAJT85,SJHKQJT53DA652CKQ|sv|e|nt|daman: and Dawson vaults into the lea|pg|| nt|daman: lead*|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: director announced 25 mins for the quarter, dawson decided not to waste it. clock on 22 now|pg|| nt|daman: last board|pg|| nt|daman: John you are a great Vugraph operator Bravo clap clap clap|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: last board of the quarter|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth: "always a pleasure" and shakes hands with helgemo then helness|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell: good match|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth: one of these days ... be teammates|pg|| mb|p|nt|warrens: they're not showing it, but 4@S -1 at the other table|pg|| mb|1C|nt|Vugraphzfe: thanks. I do my best|pg|| mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: John -- thank them for US too please!!|pg|| mb|2C|nt|kit: Not much excitement on this last hand it doesn't look like -- 4@H easy|pg|| nt|kareno: Is this the right auction????|pg|| mb|2H|nt|kareno: Thanks, John, for doing a great job Operating despite the players' lack of cooperation.|pg|| mb|3C|nt|robbg: Great job on the vg indeed. |pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: johnson verifies with lew that this is the last hand of the set|pg|| nt|dinos1: interesting hand|pg|| nt|ady: quite part score either in 1NT or 2@S|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue: you did good, got a good result, we have 130|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: grue asked cheek: what were your diamonds? mine were QJT-fifth|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: cheek: the last time we had that auction your @D were K-third. I didn't want to take that risk|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: meckstroth finally returns michel's convention card|pg|| nt|kit: Of course N-S might take a save|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: ugh sorry parity error|pg|| mb|4H|nt|bridge_one: only @S lead save declarer|pg|| nt|robbg: Need a @d ruff to beat this I think.|pg|| nt|hlortz: yes operator is a tough job well done|pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks to ACBL for letting us watch their tournaments. Thanks my fellow commentators for your wit and wisdom.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N=Semi-Force and PASS usually 5(332) min|pg|| nt|harmon: yes John jusy slap them upside the head nex t quarter:)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: and goes walkabout again|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Thanks to the specs for keeping us on our toes. And to BBO for the wonderful platform to watch great bridge every week of the year.|pg|| nt|kareno: And of course to Jan Martel for organizing vugraph for us.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: rodwell: 1@S-2@S 3-card constructive raise so 1NT could contain 3 spades|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: nice quick hand 8 tricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: now the swith @d became easy|pg|| nt|daman: and in case I haven't mentioned it today Canada won the golf medal in hockey both Men's and Womens'|pg|| nt|chick: that explains why he didn't compete higher :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: we have action in the other room Helgemo in 3N [Hamman overcalled 2@D]|pg|| nt|harmon: helnesswas gonna have a tuff time in 4hts!!!!|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|daman: gold*|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|robbg: Did they also win the hockey medal in golf :)|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|daman: I corrected that |pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|robbg: I know but I couldn't resist.|pg|| nt|panja: will NS sac in OR?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|nt|dburn: well, Cheek had some evidence that his partner's diamonds were not king-third|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| nt|Walddk4: @C10 does not suggest a diamond ruff, does it?|pg|| nt|ady: this last hand of the session?|pg|| nt|chick: yes, Q-third would be even worse :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: looks like I'm going to lose those....|pg|| pc|hK|nt|dinos1: thx all|pg|| nt|ady: thx all|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: players check the IMPs and depart|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: thanks all for commentating and watching. back in 2 hrs 20 mins for the third quarter|pg|| nt|ady: thx all|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: closing. goodbye for now|pg|| nt|panja: might be worth8 or 5 IMPs|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|rodal f: Drive the @D for 40.7% or 3-1/1-3 by 49.7%|pg|| nt|kareno: A contract with possibilities|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|kit: if N-S do take a save in other room, match could be very close|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|robbg: Discouraging.|pg|| nt|daman: we have great athletes apparently the gold medal match between Canada and the USA drew a larger audience than the SuperBowl|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: dawson confesses @C10 suggested @H, "my fault"|pg|| nt|robbg: ahh|pg|| nt|bridge_one: great misunderstand (10 in @C strange to give the information about ruff in @D)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: players depart|pg|| nt|daman: ciao everyone|pg|| nt|daman: see you soon|pg|| nt|robbg: See you all soon!|pg|| nt|bridge_one: bye all - ty for watching|pg|| nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: I don't know how long the break will be. just a matter of when the players reconvene|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfe: other room has finished but apparently result from 16 wasn't entered|pg|| nt|rodal f: And Meck?|pg|| nt|kareno: Depends on board 63 also|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|rodal f: 62 made a funny result. Needed by one team, but still unbelivible|pg|| mc|10|nt|panja: thanks all, bye|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hope we don't tip over as everyone rushes over to other room|pg|| pg||