[dickiegera]

We play controls

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2♥ shows 2 controls which is obvious to East as the ace of clubs

playing kokish relays I see how to get to 7 Spades or 7NT


Playing controls how does one get to 7?
Playing 2♦ as waiting how do we get to 7?

If I [East] knew West had 6 Spades to the Queen it would be an easy bid of 7NT.

Suggestions
Thank you

[Stephen Tu]

There's zero reason to jump to 3nt when west has a GF response. Bid 2nt, west shows 6 spades, easy. East just avoids bidding game which partner may pass (e.g. 4nt over texas, rather than accepting transfer), or on other sequences, and keep on going if partner tries a signoff in game.

[ggwhiz]

Stephen Tu, on 2018-June-23, 20:50, said:

There's zero reason to jump to 3nt when west has a GF response.

Exactly. We don't play controls but 2♦ is a GF and 2♥ a bust. In any case a 2nt bid would fetch a 4♥ Texas transfer intending to cue bid 5♣ over a simple 4♠ response, showing the 6th spade and getting a rkc bid instead. If you don't play Texas you should still bid low and slow over a simple transfer since you are still on a GF and get a club cue at the 4 level and still have a very live shot at the grand.

I don't think it's that tough unless you pre-empt yourself. 3nt should be a 22 count full of quacks with no majors or slam ambitions.

[Stephen Tu]

ggwhiz, on 2018-June-23, 23:16, said:

3nt should be a 22 count full of quacks with no majors or slam ambitions.

3nt should be a hand based on running suit + stoppers expecting to make 9-11 tricks and no slam opposite 2 controls + possible quacks.

Balanced hands, including quacky 22 counts, should bid 2nt to give partner a chance with a shapely hand a chance to improve the contract at a sensible level. If you actually have 26 then you just make another try when partner tries to sign off game since you have an extra ace.

[Winstonm]

First, stop playing control responses to 2C.
Second, don't jump around in a game-forcing auction unless you are showing a specific type of hand.

As Stephen wrote, bid 2N to show your NT shape and let partner take over.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

#1 as other said, why jump?
#2 if the jump showes, ... 25/26 HCP, the bid should be forcing up to 4NT / 5M (if a fit was found), 2 Controls
are 4+, i.e. you have 29+ combined, 4NT should be safe.
Over 3NT play your normal system, i.e. xfer to spades, breaking the xfer with 4NT should deny a fit, bidding
the suit, showes the fit (This is a common method after a strong 2NT opener).
After responders sign of in 5S, ... 5NT should be key card.
Opener can count 4-5S, 4C, 2H, 1D, i.e. slam is at worst on spades 22, after key card, something like Last Train should
get responder into the picture, that the 6th spades is the 13th trick.

With kind regards
Marlowe