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PSYCHIC OR ALERT OR SOMETHING ELSE ? About bidding

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Posted 2018-June-06, 05:50


I open 1 and next player overcall 1NT.

After the hand we discover that he had a singleton.
Is it a psychic or should he alert ?

Thank you to take time to respond.

I am very intrigued.
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Posted 2018-June-06, 06:03

View Post120248, on 2018-June-06, 05:50, said:


I open 1 and next player overcall 1NT.

After the hand we discover that he had a singleton.
Is it a psychic or should he alert ?

Thank you to take time to respond.

I am very intrigued.


You need to ask the player who made the call, not us
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Posted 2018-June-06, 08:24

most likely it's just a clueless player who doesn't understand what 1NT should have there.

a psyche has to be deliberate. bad players often misdescribe their hands unintentionally. as for alerting, they don't have to alert that they're bad players.
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Posted 2018-June-08, 14:31

I've seen plenty of players bad enough that the bid shows pts period and nothing else. Of course they don't know what an alert is either.

If there is a director available they need to sort it out (if the stiff was smaller than a queen it should be as verboten as an opening 1nt). If there is no director you can give a free lesson, civilly of course or my tendency is to wish them luck with the rest of their game. They will need it.
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Posted 2018-June-09, 14:40

View Postggwhiz, on 2018-June-08, 14:31, said:

I've seen plenty of players bad enough that the bid shows pts period and nothing else.

"1 maybe 10-15 points and 0+ , but always at least zero"

(dholland today, commenting bid by Boye Brogeland) B-)
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Posted 2018-June-11, 05:45

I think he was referring to the 1N bidder, not the opener.

Two possibilities. The 1N bidder was a new player, or, 1N was some sort of takeout call like I play.
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Posted 2018-June-15, 18:56

You kind of need to tell us the environment. I've seen a player with 5521 shape (5/5 majors), bid 1nt after their partner opened 1c to show their 6-9 pt hand. Needless to say, that was not what I would consider as a strong player. I was quietly laughing as he struggled to go down 1 when there was a 9 card spade fit.
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