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What's standard after 1m-(X)?

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Posted 2018-May-20, 03:23

1M-(X)-2NT = good raise to 3
1m-(overcall)-2NT = natural (or sometimes still a good raise)
but: 1m-(X)-2NT = ?

Are inverted minors still on after a TOX?

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Posted 2018-May-20, 05:52

If you have methods that do what you want after a pass, why not do the same after a X? In my case, 1m (X) system-on.

However, our responses to a major are deficient with a weak hand, as we play 1NT forcing, so after 1M (x) we play transfers up to 2M.
If you were asking what would be assumed as standard if you have never played together before, then surely it must be natural. If you had agreed inverted minors, then still inverted.
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Posted 2018-May-20, 06:15

1m (x) 2nt = weakest raise (no game opposite 18-19)
1m (x) jump 2/3 om = invitational raise
1m (x) 3m = mixed raise
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Posted 2018-May-20, 07:53

I don't think there is a "standard" agreement in this sequence. what works for you will depend on your system like; weak NT? minor promises 4+, 4, 3, 2 or lower, your style and some other things.
I like 2N as either weak or Game force, jump shift in other minor XX=limit, 2M=constructive 8-10, with jump shifts as fit.

Transfer responses also work well over 1 minor. eg. 1C-(1D)-XX=D, 1S=NT etc.
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Posted 2018-May-20, 11:09

There’s no really standard here but;

- it is not uncommon to play a reverse Truscott where 3m is invitational and 2NT weak fit so that potential 3NT is played by opener and have doubler on lead
- I’ve seen 2M played as fit jump approx 10 HCPs 5M4m, or 6 cards, weak in M (subminimal to bad weak 2, sth like 3-8 HCPs)
- 2D over 1C or 3C over 1D same kind of fit jump or constructive but less than invitational m fit

Any fit after XXing becomes GF in those cases obviously.
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Posted 2018-June-02, 11:40

We play (4 card majors/minors weak NT context):

1M-X-2N good raise to 3+, 4 card support
1m-1 level overcall-2N nat
1m-X-2N 5-8 ish 5 card support (3m is weaker)
1m-X/overcall-2m still inverted not GF not denying 4M

Most people don't play inverted minors still on over X/interference, particularly if they play their inverts FG
We sometimes bend 1m-X/1 something-2N/3m with 4 card support and a side 5 card suit we don't want to fit jump in
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