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Posted 2018-May-09, 01:53


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Posted 2018-May-09, 02:09

1 - 1 - 2 - 4NT - 5 (2 without queen) - 5 seems like what I'd do.
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Posted 2018-May-09, 05:17

Easy to realise you're missing KQ, particularly if your opening style is such that N's diamond suit need not be that good.

I would duplicate smerriman's auction except with another round of bidding between 2 and 4N to confirm partner actually had the 4th spade.

Trickier is where N's hand is xxxx, Axx, AQJxx, Q and you DO want to bid the slam in diamonds or NT but 5 may fail if the trumps don't break.
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Posted 2018-May-10, 06:03

View Postpescetom, on 2018-May-10, 05:43, said:

this is a splinter hand for me.


Really? You are prepared to commit to game opposite a typical 5 / 6 count response? I feel that this is a massive over-bid.

A 2 rebid is more than enough.
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Posted 2018-May-10, 06:04

View Postpescetom, on 2018-May-10, 05:43, said:

1 - 1 - 4 - 4NT - 5 - 5
Much the same as others, but this is a splinter hand for me.

North lacks at least an ace (and another goodie) to splinter. It commits to game opposite a partner who can have as low as 5-6 HCPs.
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Posted 2018-May-10, 07:12

View PostCyberyeti, on 2018-May-09, 05:17, said:

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I would duplicate smerriman's auction except with another round of bidding between 2 and 4N to confirm partner actually had the 4th spade.

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How do check on the 4th spade?
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Posted 2018-May-10, 07:58

View Postbravejason, on 2018-May-10, 07:12, said:

How do check on the 4th spade?


Invent a 3 bid, partner may well bid 3N with the 3451 version of his actual hand.
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Posted 2018-May-10, 09:52

View PostTramticket, on 2018-May-10, 06:03, said:

Really? You are prepared to commit to game opposite a typical 5 / 6 count response? I feel that this is a massive over-bid.

A 2 rebid is more than enough.


Quite right of course, sorry I remembered the hand wrongly.
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Posted 2018-May-10, 14:30

View PostTramticket, on 2018-May-10, 06:03, said:

Really? You are prepared to commit to game opposite a typical 5 / 6 count response? I feel that this is a massive over-bid.

A 2 rebid is more than enough.

Damn, we made the same comment at the same time. When I logged in yours wasn’t published yet😮
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Posted 2018-May-10, 14:36

View PostCyberyeti, on 2018-May-10, 07:58, said:

Invent a 3 bid, partner may well bid 3N with the 3451 version of his actual hand.

Good point about a 3 card raise - though if partner did bid 3NT, what then? Must still be a decent chance of slam.
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Posted 2018-May-10, 15:18

View Postsmerriman, on 2018-May-10, 14:36, said:

Good point about a 3 card raise - though if partner did bid 3NT, what then? Must still be a decent chance of slam.


I can bid 4 which partner will know is 3 or 4N quantitative.
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