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partner's two-weak is Xed 2S (X) 3D

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Posted 2018-March-28, 01:43

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2S is a two-weak 6cS 8-11HCP
2S (X) 3D
If undiscussed, what is the standard meaning of 3D ? :
natural forcing
natural non forcing
raise (forcing to 3S at least) + good suit (at least KQxxx)
raise + lead directing (AKx, etc...)
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Posted 2018-March-28, 03:53

For us it is natural and forcing.

It is a matter for partnership discussion and agreement - some play non-forcing but constructive or even non-forcing and weak. I think that non-forcing can be better if your weak-two bids are often below normal expectations.
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Posted 2018-March-28, 05:30

IMO, Nat + forcing if partner is an un-passed hand. If partner has passed, raise + leading directing
"Pass is your friend" - my brother in law - who likes to bid a lot.
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Posted 2018-March-28, 18:56

View PostTramticket, on 2018-March-28, 03:53, said:

For us it is natural and forcing.

It is a matter for partnership discussion and agreement - some play non-forcing but constructive or even non-forcing and weak. I think that non-forcing can be better if your weak-two bids are often below normal expectations.



View PostNickRW, on 2018-March-28, 05:30, said:

IMO, Nat + forcing if partner is an un-passed hand. If partner has passed, raise + leading directing


Both of these answers seem to be ignoring the double.
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Posted 2018-March-29, 02:06

View PostVampyr, on 2018-March-28, 18:56, said:

Both of these answers seem to be ignoring the double.


Yes, our agreement is that we largely ignore the double and our natural bids continue to be constructive after the double. The exception is that a redouble shows a strong mis-fitting hand and willingness to defend.
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Posted 2018-March-29, 04:40

View PostTramticket, on 2018-March-29, 02:06, said:

Yes, our agreement is that we largely ignore the double and our natural bids continue to be constructive after the double. The exception is that a redouble shows a strong mis-fitting hand and willingness to defend.


Exactly how we play it too, except that for us the new suit is only semi-forcing (can be passed with a minimal hand and no good bid).
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Posted 2018-March-29, 04:57

View PostTramticket, on 2018-March-29, 02:06, said:

Yes, our agreement is that we largely ignore the double and our natural bids continue to be constructive after the double. The exception is that a redouble shows a strong mis-fitting hand and willingness to defend.


I find it difficult to believe that this is best. However I have found that it works pretty well to retain a 2NT enquiry after a double.

I think you could probably bundle your strong 1-suiters into your redouble.
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Posted 2018-March-29, 06:24

View PostVampyr, on 2018-March-29, 04:57, said:

I find it difficult to believe that this is best. However I have found that it works pretty well to retain a 2NT enquiry after a double.

I think you could probably bundle your strong 1-suiters into your redouble.


You are probably right.

To be honest, I play a multi in my main partnership. I prefer to keep things simple and consistent when I play a weak-two with my other regular partner (my wife), since she doesn't like to many system complications. :)
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