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Overcaller's free rebid after 2/1 advance and RHO noise What's the range of hands?

#1 User is offline   zenbiddist 

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Posted 2018-March-14, 18:01



Experts: What do you think a minimum and maximum 2 rebid look like? Draw me some South hands please.
That decides the next question I guess - how much does North need to bid 3 here?

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Posted 2018-March-15, 01:47

S=6 spades and a near opener...perhaps up to 15 pts. w/ the wrong shape for an initial TOX.

N concern is a misfit. 3c is looking for NT and strongly denying spades and a heart stop. 10+ pts. We play 3C as forcing and w/o a heart stop N should be very cautious.
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Posted 2018-March-15, 09:42

 zenbiddist, on 2018-March-14, 18:01, said:



Experts: What do you think a minimum and maximum 2 rebid look like? Draw me some South hands please.
That decides the next question I guess - how much does North need to bid 3 here?

Thank you!


2S is 6+ good spades with an opener. Max would be just short of a X followed by 2S, so probably a bad 17 or so, although with 16-17 and a self-sufficient spade suit, opener would bid 3S (GF) or 4S, depending on the hand.

3C by North ought to be GF with 1- spades. Bidding 3C just because you are two-suited and don't like spades isn't a good idea without a good hand.

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Posted 2018-March-15, 12:27

Prepared to be shouted down but....
3N stopper 13+
3 2 no stopper 11 ish
3 GF no stopper if p bids 3 no stop either
3 6+ NF
3 5 5 minors NF
2N stopper 10-12

There may be an argument for agreeing 2N to be lebensohl style puppet to 3
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Posted 2018-March-15, 14:37

Was 2D forcing? If yes, through what?
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Posted 2018-March-15, 15:14

If 2 is forcing and you play weak jump overcalls, there are not many hands that would make a nonforcing 2 bid here. But you probably require good quality for a jump overcall at these colours so it makes sense to bid 2 here with about 9-12 points, a bad 6-card spades (or maybe a very strong 5-card suit) and diamond tolerance. Here I would take 3 as nonforcing with 5-5 in the minors.

I 2 is not forcing it is probably better to play 2 here as nonforcing but forward looking. Just too strong for a WJO and just too weak for a force. Here I would take 3 as forcing.
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