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#1 User is offline   euclidz 

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Posted 2018-February-16, 07:55

What does this bid mean?
What might this bid mean?

Pass Pass 3 Dble
Pass 4

What might the 4C bid mean (Note: It is not Gerber)
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Posted 2018-February-16, 08:13

It means I have clubs and a hand unsuitable for a 2nd seat 3, what else do you do with xx, xx, xx, Q109xxxx ?
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Posted 2018-February-16, 08:39

View Posteuclidz, on 2018-February-16, 07:55, said:

What does this bid mean? What might this bid mean?
Pass Pass 3 Dble
Pass 4
What might the 4C bid mean (Note: It is not Gerber)

4 shows a hand with s and no better option.e.g.
x x x x x x x x x x x x x
Q x x x x x x x K Q J x x

For those who believe that you should take-out whenever asked to do so, it might show e.g.
x x x x x x x x x x x x x
or worse. (Arguably, 4 is less likely to excite partner than 3).
Other players might pass when fixed with such a hand.
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Posted 2018-February-16, 08:46

Thanks for the helpful replies.

There are lots of things I know but unfortunately even more things that I don't know, I wondered if it could mean anything other than Clubs.
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Posted 2018-February-16, 10:19

Hi,

more general:
The 4C bid has the same meaning as 2C in the seq.

(pass) - pass - (1H) - X
(pass) - 2C

or

(1H) - X - (Pass) - 2C

This is due to the fact, that X has a similar meaning,
it is for T/O.

The only bid with a different meaning is a NT response,
a 1 NT response to a T/o showes some values, a 3NT response
only showes a stopper, whatever may be viewed as a stopper.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2018-February-16, 10:30

Is double for penalties ?
Then this is trivial. I assume no. In which case 4 could be as little as 4 clubs and 0 points with some upper limit.
It could only mean something else if you have agreed that it does show something else.
Sarcasm is a state of mind
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Posted 2018-February-16, 13:05

A take out x (TOX) is asking partner to offer an opinion as to the best strain/level if the Xer has a generally balanced hand outside the tox suit (in this case hearts). Our overall totally decrepit
hand should be sending out huge warning signals that leaving 3hx in place is courting disaster. We are expecting the TOXer to take at least 5 tricks on defense when they have promised none (though
none is sort of excessive picture KQJx void KQJxx KQJx and tell me u would not x 3h). 4c here does not promise anything and is more along the lines of trying to avoid the total disaster that 3hx making
would be. What type of hand might I bid 4c with? xxx xxx xxx xxxx is the simplest. A 5c bid might look x xxx xxx Axxxxx so 4c is somewhere btn totally busted and my example of a 5c bid.
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Posted 2018-February-24, 10:26

Here is the hand. I have watched East on many occasions and IMO East is either Ron Klinger or has magical powers of perception and remarkable judgement (or something else)




He/she makes the 5 Diamonds
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Posted 2018-February-24, 10:29

His name is Tom but sometimes Dick and his kibbing mate is Harry


http://www.bridgebas...78175-cheating/
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Posted 2018-February-24, 10:43

And here's another one. This time he's West and makes 6D!


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Posted 2018-February-24, 11:53

View Posteuclidz, on 2018-February-24, 10:43, said:

And here's another one. This time he's West and makes 6D!



On this hand, I'd suspect more than magical powers or remarkable judgment. There's just no way for West to know that East holds all the right cards to make 6 .
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Posted 2018-February-25, 01:42

View Posteuclidz, on 2018-February-24, 10:26, said:






<joke> No, they were playing 4D game forcing, so W’s pass is forcing and suggests some offense, hence 5D 🤣 </joke>
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