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Posted 2017-August-16, 05:37

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Lead: S10 (to A, 4 (encouraging), 5). Plan the play.

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Posted 2017-August-16, 08:18

+1 for posting, ahydra. I'd rather be in 6 here. Given that grand slams should be bid on a probability of 75%+ can we at least assume s split 3-2 (68%). I'm already timed out mesmerised what is the statistically correct line. (Oh for the 8 instead of 6 in the West hand.)
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Posted 2017-August-16, 09:04

My line for what it's worth - lol!

1) A
2) ruff with trump
3) small to J (sweat pouring off brow now) - holds!
4) A
5) ruff small with high trump
6) A
7) ruff small with high trump
8) to AQ9 KQ 2 hope dummy's good.

Win last trick with smallest card in the pack 2 :)
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Posted 2017-August-16, 09:34

I'm probably cross ruffing the hand. The lead looks like a "safe" 1098(x)(x).

I will cash 3 spades to start, pitching a heart then a club, if the second or third spade is ruffed in front, I will need the club finesse, if it isn't I have to guess whether to ruff the 4th spade or 3rd club later (with other possibilities if for example S has Kx).
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Posted 2017-August-16, 10:37

 ahydra, on 2017-August-16, 05:37, said:


Lead: S10 (to A, 4 (encouraging), 5).
Plan the play.

My guess:
AKQ discarding Q and 2s.
If the tops stand up then cash plain suit aces and cross-ruff.
If RHO ruffs the 3rd , then over-ruff and finesse J, cash A and cross-ruff.
If RHO ruffs the 2nd , then over-ruff, finesse J, ruff a high, A, ruff a high, 9, ruff a high, cash AQ, Q, and Ax.
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Posted 2017-August-16, 15:18

3 rounds of spades survive but S will ruff the 2nd club with the D7.

edit: which makes the crossruff line a success (ruffing two clubs small and one high, ruffing three hearts high, and ending with KJ at trick 12). Well done to CY and nige1. What if the 3 is led?

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Posted 2017-August-16, 19:18

 ahydra, on 2017-August-16, 15:18, said:

3 rounds of spades survive but S will ruff the 2nd club with the D7, which makes the crossruff line a success (ruffing two clubs small and one high, ruffing three hearts high, and ending with KJ at trick 12). Well done to CY and nige1.

What if the 3 is led?

Thank you. If RHO ha a singlton , then it must be hard to make 7. on a lead, except at double-dummy. My best single dummy effort:is 9, AKQ, discarding Q and 2 s, A, ruff a (perhaps you should ruff high), finesse J, cash A. If RHO had followed, then you could cross-ruff.
If RHO ruffs A, then hope Q ruffs out.
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Posted 2017-August-17, 02:08

Well done Cyberyeti and Nige1 +1

I consider the crossruff initially, but bet against it fearing North would ruff 3rd . A trump is usually a safe lead against a grand slam so I was wondering why North had led a ? I realise my line was statistically inferior to yours but by the time I posted 40 minutes had elapsed! (I don't think too many directors would be happy with my 'slow play')
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Posted 2017-August-17, 03:21

 The_Badger, on 2017-August-17, 02:08, said:

Well done Cyberyeti and Nige1 +1

I consider the crossruff initially, but bet against it fearing North would ruff 3rd . A trump is usually a safe lead against a grand slam so I was wondering why North had led a ? I realise my line was statistically inferior to yours but by the time I posted 40 minutes had elapsed! (I don't think too many directors would be happy with my 'slow play')


If you've got 10x or 109, you probably have 3 or 4 small trumps and would have led one against a grand. The 10 felt like "safer than a trump" hence 1098x or similar with a stiff trump which hasn't been led as opps have blasted it and you could be picking up J10xx for declarer.
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Posted 2017-August-18, 19:31

Full hand:



My lead of the S10 was probably ill-advised on the auction - I'd been listening to David Bird go on about trump leads vs grand slams a bit too much :). Declarer went one down, while team-mates were in the rather unimaginative 3NT. He should have made it though - he played Nige's crossruff line but forgot to cash the SQ first. (Perhaps my 10-x of spades made him think I started with a doubleton?)

On a trump lead, you have to take the club finesse then squeeze South in the majors - all rather double-dummy:



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