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How many times can you bid your 2HCP?

#1 User is offline   diana_eva 

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Posted 2017-August-13, 21:14

MPs, vul vs not:



Pass now?

Sorry if this seems too simple, I got a lot of hands terribly wrong lately, felt like doing a bit of forums brainstorming to get my logic together.

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Posted 2017-August-13, 21:21

Easy pass. Opener showed 18-19 hcp so pd has at most 20 hcp and he did not even double 1 NT so probably he has a spade oriented hand that does not want to defend 1 NT.
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Posted 2017-August-13, 22:21

3 probably shows some values. Besides, partner might take preference to hearts.

Pass.
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Posted 2017-August-13, 23:21

pass, where do you want to go?
The only question is, why North did not pass,
he is on lead, his spade suit should be good for
4-5 tricks and he should be able to establish it,
and he should have side entries.
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Posted 2017-August-14, 01:31

What action do we all normally take with 2HCPs and a misfit? It's an easy Pass for me too.
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Posted 2017-August-14, 05:58

View PostMrAce, on 2017-August-13, 21:21, said:

Easy pass. Opener showed 18-19 hcp so pd has at most 20 hcp and he did not even double 1 NT so probably he has a spade oriented hand that does not want to defend 1 NT.

Very true. Have had players rebid 1N on 12-14 on similar auctions and wonder why I doubled 2 when it is clearly going to make.

Still I would wonder why partner didn't double 1N.


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Posted 2017-August-14, 06:04

OK, thanks all. Sort of knew this was a no brainer, but needed sanity check for pass over 2S. The actual hand was silly:




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Posted 2017-August-14, 07:54

pass

I admit I would have bid 2c vs 1h with this pretty much gross minimum with a tiny shot at game. P is probably near the minimum of a hand too strong to overcall 1s and with the total misfit it seems prudent to pass here before the opps start finding the x card. The fact that p did not try to x 1n for penalty reinforces the idea of getting out of bidding as quickly as possible and if p spades are not good enough let them lose the post mortem.
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Posted 2017-August-19, 03:46

View Postgszes, on 2017-August-14, 07:54, said:

I admit I would have bid 2c vs 1h with this pretty much gross minimum with a tiny shot at game.

The choice here probably depends to some extent on our style of doubling one of a minor. In traditional methods 2 would be normal; for the modern style 1 is probably better.
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Posted 2017-August-20, 00:01

Pass. Partner has doubled and bid a new suit which should indicate a "strong" overcall hand. You're void in partner's suit, so the hand is a misfit. Rule #1 for misfits is to get out of the auction as quickly and cheaply as possible. There's no guarantee that any further call by you will result in a better contract, so pass.
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Posted 2017-August-20, 05:02

View Postdiana_eva, on 2017-August-13, 21:14, said:


MPs, vul vs not:
Pass now?

Sorry if this seems too simple, I got a lot of hands terribly wrong lately, felt like doing a bit of forums brainstorming to get my logic together.

I rank
  • 3 = NAT. Hoping to improve the contract. Partner knows we would bid a 4 card suit at the 1-level, rather than a longer suit at the 2-level. According to some experts, when partner doubles with a strong hand, he should be flexible i.e. shape suitable for more than one denomination. OK :( I see that this would not have been a success, at the table, opposite partner's actual hand :(
  • Pass = NAT. Rather than blunder further into the mire. Advisable at imps, especially as 2 has not been doubled. At MPs, however, it is usually worth risking another bid to improve the contract.

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Posted 2017-August-20, 11:17

I would have bid 2 originally would rather bid my 5 card nothing suit
problem would be what to bid if partner bids 2 after my 2
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Posted 2017-August-25, 09:24

What does West's 1NT bid show in this auction?
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Posted 2017-August-25, 09:59

View Postbravejason, on 2017-August-25, 09:24, said:

What does West's 1NT bid show in this auction?


I believe that it shows a good 18+.
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