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Whose hand is this?

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Posted 2017-August-13, 21:22

JEC match, stars all around.


IMPs, vul vs not.


Edit: You don't know whether partner's pass means anything.

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Posted 2017-August-13, 21:25

DBL.
You do not really think of bidding 5 do you?
If anything it is pass or DBL.
Pd's [ass is not forcing.
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Posted 2017-August-14, 02:09

Edit: You don't know whether partner's pass means anything.

He's passed over both 3 and 5 so he has a minimum opener vulnerable. You've stated your hand, though personally I prefer a 4 bid direct with your hand as it's all trumps and lack of defensive tricks.

The only action now is Dbl. I feel even given that the opponents have established their double fit. After partner has opened, 4 trumps to an high honour and a few extras seems a good enough reason to double a five level contract every day of the week, in my opinion.
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Posted 2017-August-14, 05:36

View PostMrAce, on 2017-August-13, 21:25, said:

DBL.
You do not really think of bidding 5 do you?
If anything it is pass or DBL.
Pd's [ass is not forcing.


I had a similar situation in a tournament yesterday when we had a fp misunderstanding and were +300 when +650 was available. My partner and an opponent both said it was a clear fp when we have freely bid a vulnerable game against non-vul opponents. I did not think pass was forcing. For reference the auction was 1C (1S) 2H (2S) 4H (4S) p p x. We are now thinking of playing fp here. Thoughts Timo?
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Posted 2017-August-14, 05:39

FWIW it didn't even cross my mind that pass was forcing, at the table. Seemed pretty clear that pd was broke and has nothing to say. I added that to the post just to clear it up that there was no agreement.

So this falls back to would you x 5D. What if they run to 5H, would you x that too?

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Posted 2017-August-14, 05:43

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Posted 2017-August-14, 05:46

I would bid 4S initially. Having bid this way (which I don't necessarily hate) I would pass 5D.
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Posted 2017-August-14, 06:14

Interesting the first pass would be forcing every day of the week for me. When I bid 3, I committed us to 3, so any passes below 3 are forcing for us and 3 by pd is weaker than pass.

Would never bid 5, I would probably double.
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