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neg double showing minors should deny major fit

#1 User is offline   Stephen Tu 

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Posted 2017-August-02, 22:24

Posting some disasters from the ACBL online championship:



GIB got itself into a lot of trouble here, bids could be better defined --
not sure what 3s vs. say double on the second round should show. Maybe double shows extra heart length, 3s shows some unspecified strong hand? In any case I don't think 3s should guarantee diamond fit as the explanation shows. Can't East just bid a minor here?

Whether 4H is OK depends on strength/hand type that 3S shows. 4H shouldn't show 3+H, should show 2, which probably affects East's later 5H.

4S is pretty questionable, 3H having already shown everything. Extra trump, but totally flat hand and opps may not have fit.

5H seems induced by 4H explanation. If it can't find a way to defend at least it should get to a minor down 1 than 5H down a lot.
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Posted 2017-August-03, 00:06

Now that is LOL :D GIB getting itself into trouble instead of a player
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Posted 2017-August-03, 08:08

East's 3 says 4+. Why does it show and not is that just a truncation of the description.
Yes should deny 3M when and have been bid. Especially as Gib is known to lie about length later.
If a major and a minor has been shown I don't think a double should deny 3M.
But in any case if you do have 3 card support it should be a big hand.
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