wanoff, on 2017-June-04, 04:57, said:
Why is 4NT possibly showing hearts ?In my (very old) book it shows diamonds with double showing hearts. Obviously double would be nicer because partner can make a penalty pass but that's tough luck.We have a fit somewhere, probably in clubs - I don't buy, as previously stated that partners pass of 3♣ denied xxx.
IMO, 4N should show 5+
♣s and 4+
either red suit
MrAce, on 2017-June-04, 06:58, said:
No you don't [end up in a 4-2 or 4-3 ♦ fit] unless you are playing with a beginner. 4 NT means that we are bidding 5♣ unless we have a big fit somewhere else.(I play it side diamonds)So pd will never bid 5♦ without 4 of them. Especially if 4 NT means any side red, then pd can never bid 5♦ without at least 4-4 in red suits. There was a discussion and some experts suggested that pd should not bid 5♦ even with 4 cards and that it is very dangerous to play a 4-4 fit at 5 level when you are there due to your shape and not the hcp values.
On reflection, I agree with Mr Ace.
MrAce, on 2017-June-04, 06:58, said:
I have good news for those who decided to take an action. Because 4♠ makes in this deal.
They would make 4
♠X against me. Usually, I don't double enough but this is a bad hand for action. Here, my judgement was faulty but I think the decision was close.
GrahamJson, on 2017-June-04, 07:33, said:
I assume that LROB means limit raise or better, so LHO could still have values in hand. They might even be heading for six. To double now seems to me like madness. Of course, you may be lucky, with partner passing and turning up with trump tricks or maybe the contract failing in some other way because of cards being badly placed. If so I would be happy to pick up +50. Again, you could strike it lucky and partner turns up with a great fit, maybe five or six diamonds. Or maybe not. I certainly don't think the odds favour taking the risk.
GrahamJson got it right for the right reasons.
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