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#61 User is offline   Winstonm 

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Posted 2017-May-18, 14:03

Would anyone else double 4S in this auction with that East hand? I wouldn't.
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Posted 2017-May-18, 15:39

I find these weak 2 discussions very amusing.

There was a day - about 30 years ago - when I considered a weak 2 bid to be a highly constructive call. I would never open a weak 2 bid with less than QJTxxx and, if the suit were that weak, I had compensating values on the outside.

Then I discovered something. When used obstructively, weak 2s (and higher level preempts) were very effective weapons against the opponents getting to their contracts. I remember distinctly playing in a North American championship pair event opening 2 vul against not on QJxxx. My opponents got to 3NT. Declarer naturally assumed that I had 6 diamonds for my bid and did not hold up enough times in the suit. This got us a near top.

Since then I have adopted a very aggressive preempting style. With one of my regular partners, our nonvul weak 2 bids are typically 5 cards (we usually open 3 if we have 6 cards). Not only that, the 5 cards can be xxxxx! It is amazing how well this works.

So, I find these discussions of the need for good suits and such so 1980s.



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Posted 2017-May-18, 16:29

East hand posted to BridgeWinners as a Bidding Poll
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Posted 2017-May-18, 16:51

View Postnige1, on 2017-May-18, 16:29, said:

East hand posted to BridgeWinners as a Bidding Poll

Already posted--four days ago--as a BW bidding poll here: Pass or Double?

Pass is currently running at 96%.
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Posted 2017-May-18, 17:25

View PostArtK78, on 2017-May-18, 15:39, said:

I find these weak 2 discussions very amusing.

There was a day - about 30 years ago - when I considered a weak 2 bid to be a highly constructive call. I would never open a weak 2 bid with less than QJTxxx and, if the suit were that weak, I had compensating values on the outside.

Then I discovered something. When used obstructively, weak 2s (and higher level preempts) were very effective weapons against the opponents getting to their contracts. I remember distinctly playing in a North American championship pair event opening 2 vul against not on QJxxx. My opponents got to 3NT. Declarer naturally assumed that I had 6 diamonds for my bid and did not hold up enough times in the suit. This got us a near top.

Since then I have adopted a very aggressive preempting style. With one of my regular partners, our nonvul weak 2 bids are typically 5 cards (we usually open 3 if we have 6 cards). Not only that, the 5 cards can be xxxxx! It is amazing how well this works.

So, I find these discussions of the need for good suits and such so 1980s 1960s.


FYP :P
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Posted 2017-May-19, 12:53

View PostWinstonm, on 2017-May-18, 17:25, said:

FYP :P


I should have said 1970s, as my bridge life goes back to 1972.





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Posted 2017-May-19, 14:22

View PostArtK78, on 2017-May-19, 12:53, said:

I should have said 1970s, as my bridge life goes back to 1972.

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Posted 2017-May-19, 14:29

View PostArtK78, on 2017-May-19, 12:53, said:

I should have said 1970s, as my bridge life goes back to 1972.


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Posted 2017-May-19, 15:48

View Postmasse24, on 2017-May-18, 16:51, said:

Already posted--four days ago--as a BW bidding poll here: Pass or Double?

Pass is currently running at 96%.


One poll says to assume matchpoints, the other IMPs. A discussion about doubling at IMPs versus matchpoints deserves a separate topic.
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Posted 2017-May-19, 16:12

View Postjohnu, on 2017-May-19, 15:48, said:

One poll says to assume matchpoints, the other IMPs. A discussion about doubling at IMPs versus matchpoints deserves a separate topic.

I (mistakenly?) assumed that it was Pairs after reading Redspawn's OP.
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