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What do you overcall?

Poll: What do you overcall? (23 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your overcall?

  1. Double (17 votes [73.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.91%

  2. 1NT (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  3. Two clubs (5 votes [21.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

  4. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   VixTD 

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Posted 2017-April-26, 06:58

Cross-IMP teams-of-eight, scored by victory points.

You're playing Acol, weak NT, four-card majors, no fancy agreements. Jump overcalls are weak.

What do you overcall and why?
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Posted 2017-April-26, 07:20

I would overcall 2, but all our simple overcalls are VERY sound, for most people this is x then NT I suspect, however you bid a balanced 20 ish.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 07:42

View PostCyberyeti, on 2017-April-26, 07:20, said:

I would overcall 2, but all our simple overcalls are VERY sound, for most people this is x then NT I suspect, however you bid a balanced 20 ish.

I agree that these are the two choices that come to mind. But I went for X then NT.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 08:04

2C, It is either X or 2C.
1NT is wrong, I am way to strong for this bid.

What to choose is ..., if you play a more limited
overcalls, thango for X.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 08:17

Double - and expect to bid NT next round. This hand is too strong for an immediate NT over-call.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 08:25

In my view it's too strong to overcall 2 or 1NT so I'll go for double. I'll probably rebid 2NT if partner bids 1. It could be wrong; it could be right. All I do know that with a balanced 6-7 count partner is unlikely to raise 2 or 1NT.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 09:14

I agree that it's too strong for 1nt and both double and 2 have warts

double if partner bids diamonds or lho bids just about anything (and rho peeps again) is awkward at best.

2 may end the auction but if I get to bid 2nt next seems like the best description of tricks and strength so I'll risk it.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 10:14

I'd double but 2C and 3N are both possible.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 10:16

X planning to bid NT next round.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 11:44

View Postggwhiz, on 2017-April-26, 09:14, said:

2 may end the auction but if I get to bid 2nt next seems like the best description of tricks and strength so I'll risk it.

2C is my choice too. If I double with this, my partner will have SKxxxx and bid 4S next based on our "known" S fit.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 11:52

View Postsilvr bull, on 2017-April-26, 11:44, said:

2C is my choice too. If I double with this, my partner will have SKxxxx and bid 4S next based on our "known" S fit.


This comment shows that the poster has little to no clue about what the double shows over 1. Doubling 1 does not promise 4 card spades. It does not even promise singleton spade. I have no idea how long it takes for some people to learn this simple fact!
Double of 1 or double of any suit they opened shows other suits OR too strong hand to overcall. whatever that range may be for your taste. Just because we rarely double 1 without spades does not mean this double promises spades.
Overcalling 2 with the OP hand is perfectly fine. But that has nothing to do with double promising a spade fit.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 12:15

View PostMrAce, on 2017-April-26, 11:52, said:

This comment shows that the poster has little to no clue about what the double shows over 1. Doubling 1 does not promise 4 card spades. It does not even promise singleton spade. I have no idea how long it takes for some people to learn this simple fact!

Are hostile and childish comments like this really necessary for you to express any thought? I offered my opinion, which I have just as my right to have as you have to your opinion. If you don't like my opinion, then by all means, feel free to refuse when I ask you to be my partner in an event (but please do not hold your breath waiting for that invitation). Since you know everything, tell us why your partners would never consider bidding 4S with a 5=1=5=2 after you double 1H and the next opp bids 4H. And for the record, I never indicated that a double of 1H "promised" a 4 card S suit, but that is an inference my partners are likely to draw. I have a clue enough that there can be many different hand types that make different bids. Your obvious hostility shows nothing about bridge skill, but instead only demonstrates your eagerness to jump to unfounded conclusions and to denigrate others with no reason to do so.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 14:34

View Postsilvr bull, on 2017-April-26, 12:15, said:

Tell us why your partners would never consider bidding 4S with a 5=1=5=2 after you double 1H and the next opp bids 4H.

Why is that a problem? I'd just bid 5 and expect to be making easily. In that situation, we seem to be in a much better position than had we overcalled 2 followed by a 4 jump, when partner is likely to be passing hands where even 6 is cold.
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Posted 2017-April-26, 15:26

I would X, the hand being too good for 2C with that lovely suit, good intermediates, well-placed DK.

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Posted 2017-April-27, 13:00

View PostVixTD, on 2017-April-26, 06:58, said:


Cross-IMP teams-of-eight, scored by victory points.
You're playing Acol, weak NT, four-card majors, no fancy agreements.
Jump overcalls are weak.
What do you overcall and why?

I rank
  • Double = NAT Intending to rebid 1N over partner's likely 1 advance .
  • 2 = NAT.
  • 3N = NAT. Commital and an overbid.
  • 1N = NAT. Underbid.

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Posted 2017-April-27, 13:14

I think 2c is pathetic
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Posted 2017-April-27, 16:35

The OP mentioned ACOL. Does that make any difference in defensive bidding?

Anyway, I double intending to correct to clubs. If partner passes, I'd rather play 3C than 2NT. If partner bids on, we can still reach 3NT.
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