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A Challenge in Dummy Play How can 4s be won?

#21 User is offline   el khouri 

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Posted 2016-December-31, 11:37

easy if LHO have no more diamond just cahs yhe ace of heart and finesse th jack if it win play king of clab and jettison king of heart
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Posted 2016-December-31, 23:40

After pulling trump. lead K clubs and discard a diamond. Discard another diamond on Q clubs. Always makes 6.
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Posted 2016-December-31, 23:47

 johnaa777, on 2016-December-31, 23:40, said:

After pulling trump. lead K clubs and discard a diamond. Discard another diamond on Q clubs. Always makes 6.


And how will you miracle your @$$ to the dummy 2 times?
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Posted 2017-January-01, 02:45

 MrAce, on 2016-December-31, 23:47, said:

And how will you miracle your @$ to the dummy 2 times?
Some time ago, an opponent employed this stunt against us. As declarer's LHO, I quickly pointed out he was in the wrong hand. After a pause, declarer tried again. Again I pointed out that the lead was in his hand. When he tried a 3rd time, after a longer tank, I was too slow to prevent a dozy partner from following suit, "condoning" declarer's infraction, and enabling him to make his contract :(

Do the laws provide any redress for this -- assuming that declarer claims that he made a genuine mistake :)
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Posted 2017-January-01, 21:54

 nige1, on 2017-January-01, 02:45, said:

Some time ago, an opponent employed this stunt against us. As declarer's LHO, I quickly pointed out he was in the wrong hand. After a pause, declarer tried again. Again I pointed out that the lead was in his hand. When he tried a 3rd time, after a longer tank, I was too slow to prevent a dozy partner from following suit, "condoning" declarer's infraction, and enabling him to make his contract :(

Do the laws provide any redress for this -- assuming that declarer claims that he made a genuine mistake :)


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Posted 2017-January-01, 22:03

IMHO I think the best plan is to assume rho has long diamonds and the club ace. The bidding would indeed be helpful since only an insane lho would lead a diamond with Qxxx when we have bid and raised diamonds. SO I would win trick 1 run all but 1 spade then play hearts ending in dummy the final 4 cards are !D Jx !C KQ opposite !S2 !Daxx what 4 cards can rho hold onto? if they hold only 2!c and 2!D we yield a dia trick and take the rest while if they hold the stiff !CA and 3 dia we lead the club K and they have to lead away from the Q at trick 12. This lop requires a very plausible rho holding of 3343 or less hearts and more clubs.

As Kaitlyn s points out a singleton dia lead is a ton more consistent with an aceless hand
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Posted 2017-January-02, 03:12

I was gonna suggest AK+Q and play K from dummy and ruff A when East covers (Which in my experience people do mostly all the time, but it might depend on the bidding which is not given). then follow a small diamond from hand. But upon reading Adam's line I think I like his more.
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