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Ehhhh... Passing is such sour sorrow

Poll: Ehhhh... (13 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. Pass (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.08%

  2. X (7 votes [53.85%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 53.85%

  3. 3H (1 votes [7.69%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  4. 3S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 4C (1 votes [7.69%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  6. Other (1 votes [7.69%] - View)

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#1 User is offline   Jinksy 

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Posted 2016-October-16, 06:37



IMP teams.

If you double, what do you do over a) 3M by partner, b) 3N by partner?
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Posted 2016-October-17, 05:25

Partner didn't bid and either partner holds moderate values or was the wrong shape to bid - too many clubs. If partner holds clubs and I double, then I don't have much defence to help when partner converts it to a penalty double. Even if partner bids 3NT, I don't fancy the chances much.

Our best chance of a making contract is a major suit - but which one? 4 lets partner pick - but the four level is a bit rich for me.

I hate passing - but maybe this is the most sensible action?
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Posted 2016-October-17, 13:58

double then pass seems pretty clear to me
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2016-October-17, 13:58

double then pass seems pretty clear to me
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2016-October-17, 14:26

View PostTramticket, on 2016-October-17, 05:25, said:

Partner didn't bid and either partner holds moderate values or was the wrong shape to bid - too many clubs. If partner holds clubs and I double, then I don't have much defence to help when partner converts it to a penalty double. Even if partner bids 3NT, I don't fancy the chances much.

Our best chance of a making contract is a major suit - but which one? 4 lets partner pick - but the four level is a bit rich for me.

I hate passing - but maybe this is the most sensible action?


Yes, if you are going to bid 4 pass is better.
I want to bid 4 cl too, but the thing is, it will show a big hand unless you have custom agreement.
So even if 4!C could end up in best spot, it is likely that pd may not settle with our best spot after 4 cl.
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Posted 2016-October-17, 14:50

View Posteagles123, on 2016-October-17, 13:58, said:

double then pass seems pretty clear to me
It seems less clear to me. I've noticed that some very good players double. However, I have an issue with the fact that West didn't raise clubs. I think there is a good chance I'm going to defend 3C doubled on a lot of hands that partner holds four clubs. Even when partner has five clubs, my hand isn't that rich in entries and partner may be leading a lot, and there is no guarantee of a heart lead against 3C doubled. I wouldn't be surprised if West has a good hand and a well placed diamond honor over partner (and any good club spots in dummy will come into their own after partner leaves in the double.)
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Posted 2016-October-18, 22:02

Jinksy asks "IMP teams. If you double, what do you do over a) 3M by partner, b) 3N by partner?"

A hard problem. (3) Pass (Pass) ??, I rank
1. Double = T/O. You are protecting, so partner should make some allowances.
2. 3 = NAT. But probably loses a fit.
3. 4 = T/O. 2-suiter (or Michaels). For some partnerships, keen to reach the right strain, such bids don't show a mountain.
4. Pass = NAT. A bit timid because you do have a lot playing strength. Kaitlyn is likely to be right about 3 X.

(3) Pass (Pass) Double
(Pass) 3M/3N (Pass) ??
IMO you should Pass = NAT. Your double was brave enough.

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Posted 2016-October-18, 22:20

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