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#1 User is offline   apollo1201 

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Posted 2016-October-03, 16:13

IMPs, green vs red

RHO deals and opens 3D. You hold

Kxxxx
Kx
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AQTxxx

What do you do (we didn't know until after that deal that 4C can be played as C + major, but I'm not sure the hand is strong enough)?

My partner opted for 3S (urgh!) and ended up down 3 undoubled when after a long hesitation I bid 4 with

Tx
AQTxxx
AJxx
x

I was considering but wasn't sure if 3NT or 4H should be better (I didn't think she would venture to the 3 level with a lousy 5-cd suit). Although here nothing seemed to be making in our line (H 5-0, SA in preempter's partner, etc.).

Without resulting anyway, what could be the best way to handle?

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Posted 2016-October-03, 17:35

I'd bid 3 with your pd's hand too.
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Posted 2016-October-03, 17:35

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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."





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Posted 2016-October-03, 18:01

I would bid 4. Someone will bid again, and I'm well placed over 4 or 4.
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Posted 2016-October-05, 11:53

I had a similar hand in IRL team-match a couple of months ago.

RHO opened 3H.
I had a borderline, like 12 hcp 5-5 i black suits, and bid 3S on JT9xx, non-vuln.
Pd, despite double-stopper in hearts, raised me to 4S with Kx.
It went down, while 3NT was cold.

So adding your example to the statistics, I now conclude:
- Stefan's Law: With double-stopper in enemies suit and only 2-card support, bid 3NT, stupid!
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Even if 3NT goes down here, it seems like the best percentage game-contract.
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Posted 2016-October-05, 12:41

View PostStefan_O, on 2016-October-05, 11:53, said:

So adding your example to the statistics, I now conclude:
- Stefan's Law: With double-stopper in enemies suit and only 2-card support, bid 3NT, stupid!
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Posted 2016-October-05, 14:49

Tough one but the first thing my partnership rules out is an offshape double.

On this one we bid 3 for the risk reward aspect of not having passed 3nt and game in spades is easier than clubs. Besides, partner passing with short clubs and a spade fit sucks.

I'm with Stefan here in that raising spades on 2 when bad splits are lurking is too committal. If 3nt is not to your taste, bid 4 and partner will pull to spades when you belong there. I might bid either one on any given day but them's my choices period.
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Posted 2016-October-05, 17:50

I'd also bid 3 with your hand and 3NT with the other one. I just want to add that bidding 3NT doesn't give up the contract because partner can pull to 4 with a suitable hand, so there is no need to raise 3 with a doubleton.
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