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Trumpality A new take on reality - or is it reality tv?

#61 User is offline   Winstonm 

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Posted 2016-October-11, 14:34

Do you think arming the Kurds is problematic?
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Posted 2016-October-11, 16:56

View PostAl_U_Card, on 2016-October-08, 13:43, said:

As with all pitch-men, he is pandering to a perceived need. We are not talking philosophy or ideology, just simply the current sentiment that needs to be addressed. No need to come up with well-reasoned arguments or rationales, (Remember Reagan and the "New Dawning in America"? Now that was a concept for a time of disgust and dissatisfaction.) you just need to be seen to be taking the popular sentiment under consideration.


Ok, he is just a pitchman pandering to the crowd. How is that going for him?

As the old Peggy Lee song goes "Is that all there is?" He is a pitchman. He got a lot of businessmen, who surely should have known better, to trust him. And then he got the nomination, to the great embarrassment of many in the party. Now, it's over. Finis.

Searching hard for anything good in this campaign, it might be the total death of the idea that making a lot of money is, by itself, a qualification for the presidency. Ross Perot damaged that idea, Trump will bury it.
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Posted 2016-October-11, 17:08

View PostWinstonm, on 2016-October-11, 14:34, said:

Do you think arming the Kurds is problematic?

Well, they were set on the path of Murray Bookchin by their ertswhile leader (now in prison), so they are a real threat to capitalism but the real issue is the perceived threat to Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria. They are all deathly afraid of a Kurd homeland because the Kurds, much like the Jews, are a people first and a political/religious entity second. This leads to furious and fatal conflicts.
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Posted 2016-October-11, 17:22

View Postkenberg, on 2016-October-11, 16:56, said:

Ok, he is just a pitchman pandering to the crowd. How is that going for him?

As the old Peggy Lee song goes "Is that all there is?" He is a pitchman. He got a lot of businessmen, who surely should have known better, to trust him. And then he got the nomination, to the great embarrassment of many in the party. Now, it's over. Finis.

Searching hard for anything good in this campaign, it might be the total death of the idea that making a lot of money is, by itself, a qualification for the presidency. Ross Perot damaged that idea, Trump will bury it.

Like his precursor P.T.Barnum, every minute he gets another one so maybe not that quickly. What is good is the demonstration that the system is absurd, broken and without merit. The US is on the brink of a paradigm shift that will either ruin it or take it to the next level. What that level is, remains to be seen.
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Posted 2016-October-11, 17:30

View Postkenberg, on 2016-October-11, 16:56, said:

Ok, he is just a pitchman pandering to the crowd. How is that going for him?

As the old Peggy Lee song goes "Is that all there is?" He is a pitchman. He got a lot of businessmen, who surely should have known better, to trust him. And then he got the nomination, to the great embarrassment of many in the party. Now, it's over. Finis.

Searching hard for anything good in this campaign, it might be the total death of the idea that making a lot of money is, by itself, a qualification for the presidency. Ross Perot damaged that idea, Trump will bury it.

We also have to remember that Reagan was governor of California, so it wasn't like he was devoid of political experience.
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Posted 2016-October-11, 18:08

View PostWinstonm, on 2016-October-11, 17:30, said:

We also have to remember that Reagan was governor of California, so it wasn't like he was devoid of political experience.

Experiences like reading from cue-cards during negotiations with the Russians and having the wrong card but not realizing it and continuing for several minutes?
Reagan was an actor, a snitch and a toady. Not the best example to follow or recommend.
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Posted 2016-October-11, 23:12

View PostAl_U_Card, on 2016-October-11, 18:08, said:

Experiences like reading from cue-cards during negotiations with the Russians and having the wrong card but not realizing it and continuing for several minutes?
Reagan was an actor, a snitch and a toady. Not the best example to follow or recommend.

Experience like winning an election.
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Posted 2016-October-12, 05:42

View PostWinstonm, on 2016-October-11, 23:12, said:

Experience like winning an election.

Figureheads are at the front of a ship but they have nothing to do with its function or its direction or its eventual destination. Perhaps the best definition of Ronnie and his "experiences".
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