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BBF Challenge Event #2

Poll: BBF Challenge Event #2 (31 member(s) have cast votes)

Scoring

  1. IMPs (22 votes [68.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 68.75%

  2. MPs (10 votes [31.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.25%

Best Hand

  1. Best Hand (8 votes [24.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.24%

  2. Not Best Hand (25 votes [75.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 75.76%

Boards

  1. Less - specify below (3 votes [8.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.82%

  2. 32 (20 votes [58.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.82%

  3. 48 (5 votes [14.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.71%

  4. 64 (6 votes [17.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.65%

  5. More - specify below (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#41 User is offline   smerriman 

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Posted 2016-August-21, 19:39

Awesome - that makes an even number which avoids anyone needing a bye. I'll post the first round matchups tonight - allowing one last call for late entries.
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Posted 2016-August-22, 00:41

Round 1:

gordontd vs olegru
dadim vs nige1
ovncylmz vs Vampyr
nullve vs frank0
eagles123 vs Wackojack
diana_eva vs broze
shyams vs Phil
hrothgar vs barmar
smerriman vs jeffford76
phoenix214 vs nekthen
manudude03 vs zebutin

Each pair to play two 16-board IMP non-best-hand challenges.

The 11 winners, plus 5 smallest losers, will play in round 2.
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Posted 2016-August-22, 02:29

View Postsmerriman, on 2016-August-22, 00:41, said:

Round 1:

gordontd vs olegru
dadim vs nige1
ovncylmz vs Vampyr
nullve vs frank0
eagles123 vs Wackojack
diana_eva vs broze
shyams vs Phil
hrothgar vs barmar
smerriman vs jeffford76
phoenix214 vs nekthen
manudude03 vs zebutin

Each pair to play two 16-board IMP non-best-hand challenges.

The 11 winners, plus 5 smallest losers, will play in round 2.


How do we do this?
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Posted 2016-August-22, 02:31

In the web version, click on Challenges, Challenge a friend, and enter the other person's name. The challenge will show up on your screen as yellow; once they've accepted the challenge it will turn green and you'll have 16 boards to play. Repeat once when complete.
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Posted 2016-August-22, 04:06

View Postsmerriman, on 2016-August-22, 00:41, said:

Round 1:

gordontd vs olegru
dadim vs nige1
ovncylmz vs Vampyr
nullve vs frank0
eagles123 vs Wackojack
diana_eva vs broze
shyams vs Phil
hrothgar vs barmar
smerriman vs jeffford76
phoenix214 vs nekthen
manudude03 vs zebutin

Each pair to play two 16-board IMP non-best-hand challenges.

The 11 winners, plus 5 smallest losers, will play in round 2.


Thanks for setting this up.

I find it highly amusing that I got paired against Barry (we used to play at the same bridge club and have been team mates in the past)
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Posted 2016-August-22, 06:36

View Postsmerriman, on 2016-August-22, 02:31, said:

In the web version, click on Challenges, Challenge a friend, and enter the other person's name. The challenge will show up on your screen as yellow; once they've accepted the challenge it will turn green and you'll have 16 boards to play. Repeat once when complete.


On my iPad app it is not obvious how to do this.

EDIT no maybe I can do it.

I assume that in the early rounds we are not playing the same set of hands? But anyway could a kibitzer watch the first player and give information to the second player?
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Posted 2016-August-22, 09:34

View PostVampyr, on 2016-August-22, 06:36, said:

I assume that in the early rounds we are not playing the same set of hands? But anyway could a kibitzer watch the first player and give information to the second player?

That's correct, each challenge gets its own set of hands. So this will be true in all rounds.

As for cheating by kibitzing, the same thing can happen in regular tournaments, main bridge club, etc. No one has ever claimed that cheating is hard on BBO.

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Posted 2016-August-22, 11:25

What is the deadline to finish the matches and where do we report the results?
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Posted 2016-August-22, 11:55

Good luck to all.
By the way, how many days does it take a challenge (not accepted or accepted) to expire?
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Posted 2016-August-22, 12:55

View PostVampyr, on 2016-August-22, 06:36, said:

On my iPad app it is not obvious how to do this.

EDIT no maybe I can do it.

I assume that in the early rounds we are not playing the same set of hands? But anyway could a kibitzer watch the first player and give information to the second player?


I accepted your invitation and you are good to go for first 16boards. Good luck!
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Posted 2016-August-22, 13:25

View Postbarmar, on 2016-August-22, 09:34, said:

That's correct, each challenge gets its own set of hands. So this will be true in all rounds.

As for cheating by kibitzing, the same thing can happen in regular tournaments, main bridge club, etc. No one has ever claimed that cheating is hard on BBO.

I think that cheating in a challenge match *is* pretty hard.

First off, there is no menu that allows you to access current challenge matches being played (with a view to selecting one to kibitz). I stand to be corrected if wrong.

I am not sure whether you could kibitz a specific player who you happened to know was currently playing a challenge match. Should be possible (and I think sensible) for the server to block kibitzers of challenge matches, if not currently blocked.

But if you wanted to kibitz another player in a challenge match you would need to be able accurately to predict when, within a 3 day window, he is likely to be playing the hands.
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Posted 2016-August-22, 13:50

View Post1eyedjack, on 2016-August-22, 13:25, said:

I think that cheating in a challenge match *is* pretty hard.

First off, there is no menu that allows you to access current challenge matches being played (with a view to selecting one to kibitz). I stand to be corrected if wrong.

I am not sure whether you could kibitz a specific player who you happened to know was currently playing a challenge match. Should be possible (and I think sensible) for the server to block kibitzers of challenge matches, if not currently blocked.

But if you wanted to kibitz another player in a challenge match you would need to be able accurately to predict when, within a 3 day window, he is likely to be playing the hands.


You cannot kibitz challenge matches. Also you cannot see challenge hand records of other players. So only way to cheat is to get help from another source about card play or defense - which doesn't matter to me.
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Posted 2016-August-22, 19:25

View Postfrank0, on 2016-August-22, 11:25, said:

What is the deadline to finish the matches and where do we report the results?

Unofficially around a week per round sounds reasonable I think, but we'll see what happens. You can post the results to this thread.
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Posted 2016-August-23, 07:07

frank0 and I have finished our match.

1st half: http://webutil.bridg...aeb4-1471886976
2nd half: http://webutil.bridg...aeb4-1471941630

Memorable boards for me (and not because I did well on them!):

* 7, 1st half (I have to remember that this isn't a GiB (or conservative 2/1) 1 opener.)
* 14, 1st half (2 really felt like an underbid, but I did have "2+ ; 10- total points" and I wasn't sure if GiB would understand 2N followed by 3.)
* 15, 1st half (Amusing how GiB's defence depended on whether declarer won with the A or K at trick one. I'm not defending anything I did on the board, though.)
* 11, 2nd half (Resisted the temptation to open 2N(!!). It was also tempting to play for an overtrick (by risking a 6-1 diamond break), knowing that I was down 17 after 1 half. At least I had to think about it. :))
* 15, 2nd half (I thought for ages about what to do at trick 4, but somehow it didn't occur to me that p could have KT left.)
* 16, 2nd half (My line was probably too speculative, but playing low from dummy at trick 1 felt like giving up. (How often does GiB lead from a bare king like that?) Amazing 3N at the other table!)

This post has been edited by nullve: 2016-August-23, 10:34

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Posted 2016-August-23, 08:07

View Postovncylmz, on 2016-August-22, 13:50, said:

You cannot kibitz challenge matches. Also you cannot see challenge hand records of other players. So only way to cheat is to get help from another source about card play or defense - which doesn't matter to me.

I guess I sometimes forget what types of tables block kibitzers. Since I'm a yellow the normal blocks don't apply to me.

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Posted 2016-August-23, 10:50

View Postnullve, on 2016-August-23, 07:07, said:

frank0 and I have finished our match.

1st half: http://webutil.bridg...aeb4-1471886976
2nd half: http://webutil.bridg...aeb4-1471941630

Memorable boards for me (and not because I did well on them!):

* 7, 1st half (I have to remember that this isn't a GiB (or conservative 2/1) 1 opener.)
* 14, 1st half (2 really felt like an underbid, but I did have "2+ ; 10- total points" and I wasn't sure if GiB would understand 2N followed by 3.)
* 15, 1st half (Amusing how GiB's defence depended on whether declarer won with the A or K at trick one. I'm not defending anything I did on the board, though.)
* 11, 2nd half (Resisted the temptation to open 2N(!!). It was also tempting to play for an overtrick (by risking a 6-1 diamond break), knowing that I was down 17 after 1 half. At least I had to think about it. :))
* 15, 2nd half (I thought for ages about what to do at trick 4, but somehow it didn't occur to me that p could have KT left.)
* 16, 2nd half (My line was probably too speculative, but playing low from dummy at trick 1 felt like giving up. (How often does GiB lead from a bare king like that?) Amazing 3N at the other table!)


He says all except the overall result :) .
-------------1st-----------2nd------------Total
Nullve___7________39_________46 (win 10)

Frank0__24_______12_________36

I guess now I have to pray for big swing in other matches.
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Posted 2016-August-23, 14:47

Just played my match agaist Eagles. The Robots had more than their share of the cards making it a bit frustrating.

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Posted 2016-August-23, 15:13

Vampyr,
You sent the invite yesterday and I accepted. I finished all. Please finish soon so we can start the second set.

Update: First set is over. Reporting: ovncylmz-vampyr: 47-0.
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Posted 2016-August-24, 14:04

Nige1 please accept my challange and lets do the match. I am still waiting.
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Posted 2016-August-24, 15:27

Halftime with Shyams. I'm up by about 3 game swings but admittedly had a little luck when I missed a slam with

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AKTxx
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Hearts split 3-2 but both pointed hooks were off.
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