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Advances by an UPH are... non-forcing? How exactly do you force here with a good suit?

#1 User is offline   TylerE 

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Posted 2016-June-28, 14:04

This has bitten me numerous times...

on an auction like (1X)-1Y[GIB]-(p)-?? New suits by me are routinely passed by GIB. How exactly is one supposed to show 6+Z and 14 here?
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Posted 2016-June-28, 15:45

Jump shifts are natural and forcing, but that doesn't solve every problem.
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Posted 2016-June-29, 10:16

New suits NF after partner's overcall of a 1 level opening bid is still standard, although a large contingent plays them as forcing. As manu says, a jump advance in a new suit is natural and forcing, but isn't always ideal. This is a bigger concern in Robot tourneys on BBO than in real life, where you often may have a reason to bid with less overall strength than partner might hold. On BBO, you always have the best hand or at least equal HCP.

Does anyone know, does GIB play a new suit as forcing after partner's overcall of a weak 2 bid? This is the standard treatment but I don't recall it coming up in a robot tourney.
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Posted 2016-July-03, 04:27

View PostTylerE, on 2016-June-28, 14:04, said:

This has bitten me numerous times...

on an auction like (1X)-1Y[GIB]-(p)-?? New suits by me are routinely passed by GIB. How exactly is one supposed to show 6+Z and 14 here?


Now I have edited some styles of Gib hands and played these hands by my basic Gib to show your problem,generally speaking, the behavior of Gibs are better and reasonable.

Hand-1

Result : 5E-1

Hand-2

Result : 3ntE+2

Hand-3


Result : 1ntE=

Hand-4


Result : 2E=

Hand-5

Result : 2W=

Hand-6

Result : 4W=

Hand-7

Result : 4W=

Hand-8

Result : 4W-2

I hope everyone go on discussing.
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Posted 2016-July-04, 15:35

Most bidding problems are a lot easier when you have a suit that plays for one loser opposite a void. Most of the time you don't have that luxury.
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Posted 2016-July-05, 04:41

Well and good, this is third time to discuss this issue, hping you would afford better Gib CC on it.
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