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How to reach 6D?

#1 User is offline   newbdonkey 

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Posted 2016-May-25, 21:23

Hi,
In the following deal, 6 seems possible. Sticking to SAYC, how can one arrive at this?

Please advise.
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Posted 2016-May-26, 03:30

I'm not an SAYC expert, so I'll steer clear of making recommendations about specific sequences. I will say that I can see many good pairs failing to diagnose this one though.
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Posted 2016-May-26, 06:40

I won't lose any sleep over missing a 23 point slam that only makes on a perfect fit.
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Posted 2016-May-26, 07:37

If South is dealer then it goes
1-3 (splinter) and then maybe South can bid slam.

If north is dealer I think it is difficult. If he opens, East will overcall and you probably won't get to show the heart singleton. And if he doesn't open, South will probably not envision slam opposite a passed hand, even if North splinters.
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Posted 2016-May-26, 08:02

Always indicate who the dealer is in this sort of thing.

I don't know SAYC so can't recommend sequences, it's actually easiest to bid if it starts with E's 1-P-2 as now both partners know about N's singleton heart from the start.
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Posted 2016-May-26, 09:47

Going to be super hard sticking to SAYC, which doesn't include splinters and doesn't even have forcing minor suit raises.
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Posted 2016-May-26, 12:22

I think N should splinter and NS should stop in 5D. I don't mean should normatively but as a matter of probabilities. In SAYC I guess N needs to bid 2C then 3D and N will be wary of 3NT all the time and they will arrive in 5D again.
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Posted 2016-May-26, 19:37

Playing MP's, after a pair fumbles into 5D, they should just bid 6D to protect against the field being in 3NT. That's how you get to 6D. :P
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Posted 2016-May-27, 03:28

View Post42krunner, on 2016-May-26, 19:37, said:

Playing MP's, after a pair fumbles into 5D, they should just bid 6D to protect against the field being in 3NT. That's how you get to 6D. :P


Except of course that here 5 will win you the MPs anyway as 3N makes exactly if the diamonds behave while 5 makes an overtrick, and if the diamonds don't behave, 5 makes but 3N doesn't.
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Posted 2016-May-27, 15:30

You won't find 6 on this perfecto even playing a better system than SAYC. Count it a triumph if you can diagnose that this is the rare matchpoint hand where 5m is better than 3NT--very hard to do if North can't show heart shortness. If he can, 5 is a fine contract. East throwing in a heart overcall here (if North is dealer) makes the task easier, not harder.
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Posted 2016-May-27, 19:29

An attempt (South dealer)

1D 3H
3S 4C
4H 5C
6D
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Posted 2016-May-28, 22:33

Appreciate your responses. Thank you!
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