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#21 User is offline   neilkaz 

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Posted 2016-April-24, 20:41

View Postrmnka447, on 2016-April-24, 16:27, said:

3

3 is enough for me. Perhaps we belong in 4 and 4 is easy for them to X if we are in trouble.
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Posted 2016-April-25, 05:04

3 for me. I'd open 4 without a thought if the void were the other major
"Pass is your friend" - my brother in law - who likes to bid a lot.
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Posted 2016-April-25, 05:49

In my experience,owning the spade suit gives their holder a distinct advantage. Spades are the emperor
of all the suits,always keeping you one step ahead of the opposition. It pays,therefore,to bid them
as forcefully as possible.
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Posted 2016-April-25, 06:49

View PostPhilG007, on 2016-April-25, 05:49, said:

In my experience,owning the spade suit gives their holder a distinct advantage. Spades are the emperor
of all the suits,always keeping you one step ahead of the opposition. It pays,therefore,to bid them
as forcefully as possible.

There is a counter argument, that since you are forcing the opponents up a level to compete the oppo will generally be less inclined to take the push. Furthermore, were they to do so you are well placed to continue competing at the same level if so inclined. These factors could provide a disincentive to going overboard first time around.
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Posted 2016-April-25, 07:31

View Postnige1, on 2016-April-24, 20:00, said:

  • 3 = PRE. Baby bear.
  • 4 = PRE. Daddy bear.


I suspect the babies might be more inclined to 4 and the seniors to 3. ;)
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Posted 2016-April-26, 01:40

3S, second seat preempts are meant to be more solid than 1st or 3rd.

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Posted 2016-April-26, 05:08

What happened? Did 4S go for a lot? Or did 3S miss a good game?
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Posted 2016-April-26, 07:45

View Postahydra, on 2016-April-26, 01:40, said:

3S, second seat preempts are meant to be more solid than 1st or 3rd.

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It seems to be forgotten that in duplicate,the real opponents sit in the same
direction as you and your partner. Thus although it might not be odds on to make,I will try
to be in the par contract i.e. the one that the majority of the field will be in. Thus I would rather overbid than underbid.
especially if a game contract is borderline. 55-60 per cent is always a good board score.
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Posted 2016-April-26, 07:53

The par contract is the one where neither side can improve their score by bidding further. If we can make 9 tricks in spades and they can make 9 tricks in hearts then the par contract is 3= if they are vulnerable and 4X-1 when they are NV. In this case, bidding 4 is likely to be a mistake. Sometimes overbidding is just as bad as underbidding. Whether the theoretical par contract is in any way connected to the most common one being played in the given room is another matter altogether. It is not uncommon to have a board where the par contract is almost impossible to find.
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Posted 2016-April-26, 08:18

View Postmr1303, on 2016-April-26, 05:08, said:

What happened? Did 4S go for a lot? Or did 3S miss a good game?


Neither. P had a strong hand, and if (s)he took an optimistic view of a second seat 4 bid, you'd end up in a poor slam that happened to make. A moral story for us all...
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Posted 2016-April-26, 08:51

View PostJinksy, on 2016-April-26, 08:18, said:

Neither. P had a strong hand, and if (s)he took an optimistic view of a second seat 4 bid, you'd end up in a poor slam that happened to make. A moral story for us all...


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I recall an opponent being in a far-fetched slam. A finesse worked and a side suit split 3-3. I asked him "Do you need anything else?" He said yes, he did. And his luck held. We still won the match.
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Posted 2016-April-27, 11:32

View Postkenberg, on 2016-April-26, 08:51, said:

Ain't it the truth?

I recall an opponent being in a far-fetched slam. A finesse worked and a side suit split 3-3. I asked him "Do you need anything else?" He said yes, he did. And his luck held. We still won the match.


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Posted 2016-April-27, 11:35

View PostPhilG007, on 2016-April-24, 02:04, said:

I've never heard of a single suited hand being described as "constructive"
That's a new one on me (!) ;)

Perhaps "sound" would be a better description than "constructive."

I would open 3 on this hand in second seat.
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Posted 2016-April-27, 13:15

In 1st seat this is a wtp 4S call. In 2nd I don't mind 3, only because I have an immense amount of defense and I'll be happy if partner doubles. Also, if I open 4S RHO who has already passed will probably float 4Sxd on general principles and I'm not at all sure I like that.
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Posted 2016-May-04, 14:58

View PostPhilG007, on 2016-April-24, 02:04, said:

I've never heard of a single suited hand being described as "constructive"
That's a new one on me (!) ;)


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