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Pass or invite? 12-14 NT with major suit fit

Poll: Pass or invite? (46 member(s) have cast votes)

Invite game at matchpoints, or not?

  1. Pass 2S (2 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  2. Raise to 3S (44 votes [95.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 95.65%

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#41 User is offline   q154430 

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Posted 2016-April-17, 07:45

I want my partners to invite with 23-25. It's as close to a formula as we have in this game. Your partner might prefer 24-26 especially if he can't make 3 on this.

28 won't always make, 23 won't always go down, and he is not always right. Get an agreement and tell him to stop complaining. Your opponents will appreciate it too.
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Posted 2016-April-18, 14:00

Sorry to reply so late, but was out of town.

My preferred system (KS) uses 12-14 weak NTs all seats all vulnerabilities. I'm inviting 100% of the time with OP's stated hand. I think OP's partner is all wrong about passing 2 .

For Strong NTers, the bidding would go

1 - 1
1 - ?

Would those with OP's hand simply bid 2 ? I don't think many will.
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Posted 2016-April-18, 18:06

Again it's me against the world. 30-40-30. This is a physical phenomenal which occurs frequently. 30% of boards are lucky. 40% of boards have results as expected. 30% of boards are unlucky. This board falls into the unlucky group.
The trumps are Jxxx opposite 4 unknown. 9 unknown spades and opener has 4 of them. 3 are the SA, SK and SQ. That's 84 possible combinations. Opener has 0, 1, 2, or 3 of those high honors. The chances are 10, 40, 30, and 4 respectively. Having zero or one high spade makes it very likely we have two or more trump losers. Bad for us. Bad for our chances making 10 tricks with 14 opposite 11.

Questions for the OP.
Q1: 5332. Do you open 1 or 1NT? If 1 pass of the opening 1NT by pard is clear.
Q2: After you invite, does pard ever go with 13 HCP? If yes, then 3NT must be under 50%. Maybe under 40%.
Q3: Do you ever open 1NT with 5422 and a 5-card spade suit? If yes, pass of the opening 1NT is even more clear.
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Posted 2016-April-19, 03:10

View Postsilvr bull, on 2016-April-15, 04:42, said:

Playing 12-14 NT at matchpoints with a good partner

View Postsilvr bull, on 2016-April-16, 03:00, said:

After going down one at 3S, partner informed me that I should pass 2S because I have only 11 HCP.

There seems to be a mistake in one of these 2 posts. If you do not invite with this hand you might as well give up on playing them altogether.
(-: Zel :-)

Happy New Year everyone!
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