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Preempted by CHO

Poll: Preempted by CHO (31 member(s) have cast votes)

(When) do you bid on?

  1. Both vul and NV (9 votes [29.03%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 29.03%

  2. Neither (14 votes [45.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 45.16%

  3. Vulnerable only (7 votes [22.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.58%

  4. NV only (1 votes [3.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.23%

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#1 User is offline   Jinksy 

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Posted 2016-April-09, 05:00

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In first seat, partner opens 4. Do you bid on -

a) Vulnerable
b) Non-vulnerable

Of lesser importance, with no special agreements, if you do bid on, what do you bid?
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Posted 2016-April-09, 08:04

I can make a case for passing always but there are far far too many hands where opener has that extra K that makes slam a great prospect. I would try 4n and if opener cannot produce 5s I will settle in 5s. Slight risk for a ton of possible extra reward. There is more risk at MP though since going down that 1 extra trick can make a huge difference in your MP result.
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Posted 2016-April-09, 08:37

Partner with S AKQJxxx H xx D xx C xx just needs two finesses out of three. Not even if the clubs set up. I bid six spades any vulnerability. I'm not sure RKC really helps because partner can have a trump loser and no side losers.
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Posted 2016-April-09, 10:21

View Postrobert2734, on 2016-April-09, 08:37, said:

Partner with S AKQJxxx H xx D xx C xx just needs two finesses out of three. Not even if the clubs set up. I bid six spades any vulnerability. I'm not sure RKC really helps because partner can have a trump loser and no side losers.


Doesn't look good when partner shows up with QJ10-eighth (even KJ10-eighth) and a side K :(

I'd certainly bid on vul, and probably NV too, but would go via 4NT rather than just blasting.

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Posted 2016-April-09, 10:36

There isn't a right/wrong answer here - it all depends on preempt style.

My preferred style is to open 4S aggressively so I'd pass this hand at any vulnerability except unfavourable (where i'd take my chances and try 4NT KC).
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Posted 2016-April-09, 10:36

I'd pass but it depends who I'm playing with.

Would strongly consider 5H instead of 4N if I were making a move.
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Posted 2016-April-10, 06:28

I would pass. The side suits are too flimsy to risk going on.
And there could be communication problems in the play of the hand.
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Posted 2016-April-10, 10:58

Partner should have eight tricks in spades if vulnerable. I have three aces and need one of three finesses. Odds in my favour.
Has seven tricks if not vulnerable so i need two from three. Odds not in my favour. So bid 6s if vulnerable only.
Partnership experience may suggest that he/she may be missing both AK spades and would suggest invite bids if so.
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Posted 2016-April-10, 15:28

vul I would bid on.
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Posted 2016-April-10, 16:12

View PostPhil, on 2016-April-09, 10:36, said:

I'd pass but it depends who I'm playing with.

He stipulated CHO ... So, I pass as well. With a partner, rather than a 3rd opponent, we'll make a move.
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Posted 2016-April-11, 02:30

Hi,

we promise to go down at most -3 at equal, -2 at unfav., -4 at fav., on average I have enough
to make, but making is not certain.
The only thing in favour of bidding is, that 4S can be stronger, i.e. it is less well defined.


I would bid on red. vs. white with partner in 2nd position, but only than.

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Posted 2016-April-11, 10:41

I play Namyats; partner does *not* have AKQ- or AKJ- or even AQJT-eighth. 6 might roll; it might be -2 on a club lead (win A, lose trump A, K, ruff. Unlucky, but no more than lucky to make 6).

"No special agreements"? Well, this is why I play Namyats; but even with a three-minutes-after-gametime pickup, I ask three questions: carding, what kind of blackwood (because they *will* bid it), and what's their preempt style? Why? Because of hands like these.
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Posted 2016-April-11, 11:54

I pass. I am never bidding on.
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