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Poll: Would you bid at unfav? (45 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you bid now?

  1. pas (1 votes [2.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.22%

  2. 1H (28 votes [62.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.22%

  3. 2N (15 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  4. other (1 votes [2.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.22%

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#1 User is offline   andrei 

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Posted 2016-April-04, 13:16



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2N would be +
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Posted 2016-April-04, 13:33

1!h
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Posted 2016-April-04, 15:35

Not bidding would be beyond pathetic.

I would rather bid a psychotic 2nt than pass.
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Posted 2016-April-04, 16:32

I voted for psychotic. Which merely validates Wank's description of 2nt.
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Posted 2016-April-04, 17:01

one pathetic pass

expect 1h to be the majority vote
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Posted 2016-April-04, 17:32

How good do the opps look? What's the state of the match? What is opps opening 1N range?

2N is favored if:

a) opps might not know how to handle it
b) we want a swing
c) opps play strong NT

I think I bid 2N on 2 out of 3 and 1H otherwise.
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Posted 2016-April-04, 18:50

View Postandrei, on 2016-April-04, 13:16, said:


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2N would be +
I rank
  • 1 = NAT Lead-directing.
  • 2 = NAT Lead-directing and pre-emptive,
  • Pass = NAT discrete.
  • 2N = UNT Likely to provide opponents with a blue-print of the hand if they declare and a telephone-number if they defend above the level of their game/slam.

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Posted 2016-April-04, 20:31

If partner hadn't already passed, I'd take the high road with 2NT.

But opposite a passed hand, I think a lead directing 1H overcall is the only reasonable choice.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 04:57

My guess is that if you pass then oppo will sail into 4S, which will then go one or two off due to bad breaks.

I suspect that in practice I'd go with 1H, but I suspect that pass is the best call.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 05:08

Hi,

yes, bidding is clear, ..., I voted 2NT, this being dead min,
the heart suit quality gets compensated by the 6th club, but
I dont have a strong feeling.

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Posted 2016-April-05, 05:10

View Postaguahombre, on 2016-April-04, 16:32, said:

I voted for psychotic. Which merely validates Wank's description of 2nt.

I guess, since I am also in, this makes the description even more truer,
nevermind, it is only important to have the nuts, if they double you.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 06:30

View Postandrei, on 2016-April-04, 13:16, said:



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2N would be +

Ideal hand for the unusual 2NT but this would require pre-agreement or showing on a players profile.
Otherwise 1 is the sensible alternative.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 07:56

It depends on if your agreement is to play 2NT and/or Michaels as preemptive or showing a hand.

This hand is too strong for a preemptive 2NT, hence 1H.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 08:36

1 heart seems most reasonable to me
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Posted 2016-April-05, 09:58

2NT for me, it shouldn't show a weak hand vulnerable, especially when the opponents are NV.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 11:07

2N seems far more likely to help the opps than us, but it's their hand, so I want to take up space - I'll opt for 2, or perhaps 2 if we need a swing.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 11:28

I had not thought of 2H but I can see the point.

With partner as a passed hand I don't think it very likely that this is our hand. We may have a fit but if it is a good fit then they have a fit and spades outrank us. Unfav vul, so I expect we will be defending.

If partner has the Ax of hearts and is on lead, the Ace would be good. If partner has the Ax of clubs and is on lead, the Ace may not be so good, leading from his heart spots may be better. So I go with some number of hearts. I figured 1H, but I can see some point in 2H. Slightly risky, but in these highly shapely hands we usually get away with it.

Plus, since I expect we will be defending, I am not so sure o want to draw the sort of roadmat that 2NT would be. Bidding hearts might help us defend, showing all of the shape might help them bring it in.

I am sticking with 1H. No sense of adventure.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 12:28

1 now because if partner gets on lead that's what I want led. May bid later, if possible.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 13:31

Good example of a hand not to bid 2N on. It's 10:1 we will play this contract and showing declarer our shape will allow him to pick the hand clean. Or, we just get carted off when they do stop to x.

1H can be useful as a lead director. That's my call.
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Posted 2016-April-05, 23:29

A 2NT overcall is not a rational bid on this hand.Normally, this bid at unfavourable vulnerability MUST promise at least TWO defensive tricks and this hand has barely ONE.Without a previous discussion a new partner will ask you "Are you ready for a penalty when you suggest playing at THREE level with this trash?.".However, a simple 1Heart overcall DOES NOT promise anything in defence and helps partner to begin with a Heart lead if LHO lands up as declarer in a 3 NT contract.The simple overcall MAY refrain them from bidding 3NT.
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