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Unbal 1D-1M; 1NT

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Posted 2016-May-10, 07:59

View PostKungsgeten, on 2016-May-10, 07:01, said:

I like the idea of the 1D-1S; 2C rebid, but in that style I guess you cannot open 5422 hands with 1D, unless the hand is specifically 4-2-5-2?


Yeah, that would be true. I wasn't exactly sure which hands you open 1D. I assumed 4D/5C opens 1D and most of the 5422s open a weak NT. Probably a wrong assumption.

I basically cobbled together what we're using for our nebulous diamond (I really like our structure over it) and replaced the 1N rebid with the strong/minimum diamond hands.
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Posted 2016-May-10, 09:56

I assumed that the 1 opening was standard unbalanced, but made tacit use of a trick on minimum (say, rules of 19-24) hands with either (31)(54), (40)(54), (41)44 or (41)(53) shape that's not really available if the 1 opening is of Polish or Swedish type. Assuming T-Walsh and switched 1M responses to 1, so that

1-1 = 4+ H
1-1 = 4+ S
1-1 = 4+ S
1-1 = 4+ H,

the trick is to open 1 with a majority of black cards, 1 with a majority of red cards and let

1-1; 1 = 4+ S or 10-15, 31(54)
1-1; 1 = 4+ H or 10-15, 13(54).

This largely frees up the 2 rebid over 1-1M(=4+ OM), which can now quite comfortably be played as F1 and maybe primarily serve as a sort of OM raise. (This partly explains why I don't need gnasher's 1N gadget.)

A GCC legal version of the above is to to play

1-1 = 4+ S
1-1 = 4+ H
1-1 = 4+ H
1-1 = 4+ S,

open 1 with a majority of rounded cards, 1 with a majority of pointed cards and let

1-1; 1 = 4+ H or 10-15, 13(54)
1-1; 1 = 4+ S or 10-15, 31(54).
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Posted 2016-June-01, 02:24

Adjustments will be needed depending on whether we're in a strong Club context or a Standard(ish)/Polish one. I'll assume the latter with "natural" meaning 1 = 4+ D's. Even in this context, I believe the 4 D's & 5 C's hands are best opened 1.

I like after 1-1M:
1 over 1 = natural, 4 S's
1NT = 11-15 HCP "natural", <3 in M (usually a stiff) and < 6 D's (the most usual distribution is (13)(54), but 1444 possible over 1 as is 22(54) with weak majors)
2 = D's, either a 6+ D suit or various strong hands w/ 5+ D's (reverse, 5/5 minors, BWDH (long D's and 3-card support) etc.)
1-under raise (2 over 1 or 2 over 1) = minimum 3-card raise
2 over 1 = 5+ D's & 4 H's
2M = 4 pc raise
3 = 5/5 minors, invite (like Precision) [if playing Strong Club, this could be the weak 5/5 and going thru 2C could show the invite version]

After the 1NT rebid:
2 = pass or correct (always to a 5-card minor, except 1444 over 1)
2 = similar to NMF, but opener can bid 2M w/ a 2-card tolerance
other bids natural, including:
3 = sign off
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