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Poll: support or defend (14 member(s) have cast votes)

What does double mean for you?

  1. Takeout (4 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. Penalty (8 votes [57.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.14%

  3. Co-operative (2 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  4. Support (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

What do you do here?

  1. Pass (1 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  2. Double (4 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  3. 2S (5 votes [35.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.71%

  4. 2NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3C (4 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  6. 4S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2016-March-22, 01:23



MPs scoring, favourable. What does double now show and what do you do here?

Bonus question for those who pass (with double being takeout in this partnership):
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Posted 2016-March-22, 06:47

2 for me. I am not very interested in penalizing at the two level when we have a fit. Meanwhile a double intended as penalty may be misunderstood anyway.
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Posted 2016-March-22, 07:30

It's penalty on my card and I'm going for it on these colors.

Playing a very aggressive overcall style that includes chunky 4-card suits at this vul and having passed 1 means that partner will not misinterpret the double but it's a firm partnership agreement.
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Posted 2016-March-22, 13:33

What you bid depends upon your agreements.

For me, 1 in this auction can be as little as 5-6 HCP and 4+ decent . It's upper bounds are marked by failure to make a jump to 2 which is something like 12-14 HCP and a good 6+ card suit. Most often 1 is definitely less than an opener, but there might be the odd occasion when it seems the right bid with an opener versus jumping to 2 or Double.

So I'm going slowly and bidding 2 . By reopening, partner with less than an opener is taking advantage that my hand is marked with some values typically at least 10 points. So I'm discounting the first 10 points as having already been "bid".

If partner pushes on and shows a better hand, I'll get more excited. I do have 2 1/2 QTs and my length means partner is in position to not be overruffed if both he and his RHO are short in .
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Posted 2016-March-22, 21:14

5 teeny clubs,when p looks to be short, makes this a wonderful offensive hand. We do not wish to bury partner for balancing however so we make the strong 3c cue to try to get partner to bid game.
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Posted 2016-March-22, 22:38

x...I hope this is penalty.

if pard pulls to 2h I will try 2s now .
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If partner and I are NOT on the same wavelength a truly great hand to discuss/debate/argue about later in the bar over drinks. :)
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Posted 2016-March-27, 19:05

Unequivocally penalty. Why didn't I double one round ago if I wanted to take out?
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Posted 2016-April-02, 09:39

Doubling them with a JTxxx suit at 2 level and hiding an AKx support to partner's major suit is beyond my imagination.
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