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Posted 2016-February-07, 01:37

What is the difference between:

1♦- 1♥ - 3♥(showing a good raise) and
1♦- 1♥ - 2♥?

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Posted 2016-February-07, 02:43

1) one shows extras
2) two denies extras


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Posted 2016-February-07, 09:57

1) A hand worth approximately 17 that can include good red cards with a black singleton or a soft flat 18.

2) Any hand worth a weak notrump with 4 hearts. Might have shape but proceed with caution ie. make a new suit game try a lot of the time and respect a signoff in 3♥
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Posted 2016-February-07, 19:00

2♥
Might be on 3 cards. Max 14 Support Points. 7 losers.
Balanced or unbalanced.

3♥
Minimum 4 trumps. Likely Balanced. Generally 15-17 Support Points. 5 or 6 losers. Some say must be 4225 shape. Depends how you use jump reverses.
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Posted 2016-February-08, 17:53

View Postportia2, on 2016-February-07, 01:37, said:

What is the difference between:

1♦- 1♥ - 3♥(showing a good raise) and
1♦- 1♥ - 2♥?

Many thanks


First sequence :
3♥= I have extra values with 4-card ♥ support, 14-17hcp invitational hand. Note if really hold 14-15hcp, opener usually have s/v in some suit.

Second sequence :
2♥=limited raise with 11-bad 15hcp, usually 4-card ♥ support. maybe 3-card support with s/v in some suit.
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