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Opponents open your suit

Poll: Opponents open your suit (62 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you call?

  1. Pass (10 votes [16.13%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.13%

  2. 1NT (48 votes [77.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 77.42%

  3. Double (3 votes [4.84%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.84%

  4. Other (1 votes [1.61%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.61%

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#1 User is offline   VixTD 

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Posted 2016-February-04, 08:22

It's love all, matchpointed pairs:

Opponents play Acol, weak NT, four-card majors. What do you bid and why?
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Posted 2016-February-04, 08:28

Do they play the style where you open 1M with 4M4m32 or 1m ?
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Posted 2016-February-04, 09:59

1nt and basically fold my cards and put them in my pocket. If I pass, often they were about to play in 1nt and +90 vs the -50 they would get there or -50 instead of -90 should they be able to make 1nt etc. is my target.

Unlike most, my partnership plays systems off if they double 1nt so we can run out to the cheapest possible spot.
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Posted 2016-February-04, 11:40

1NT and basically fold my cards [obviously not - ed]....

Unlike most, my partnership plays systems on if they double 1NT, so we can run out to the cheapest possible spot.

Oh wait, did I not mention that I play K/S? And that "systems on" includes "rescue system on"? Yes, I have played 2 (just in, +5 IMPs) after the auction 1-1NT-X-2 (anything else to play); p-p (forced)-p.
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Posted 2016-February-04, 12:38

View Postmycroft, on 2016-February-04, 11:40, said:

Oh wait, did I not mention that I play K/S?


For a 1nt overcall? Very uncommon in my neck of the woods.
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Posted 2016-February-04, 13:10

Double. If I pass and bid later partner will never believe I am this strong and if they end up in 2 my next double is for penalty.

Edit Add: I play this type of double called a Power Double instead of over calling 1NT.
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Posted 2016-February-04, 13:40

View PostCyberyeti, on 2016-February-04, 08:28, said:

Do they play the style where you open 1M with 4M4m32 or 1m ?

It wasn't the sort of game where you could ask that and get a sensible answer.
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Posted 2016-February-04, 14:27

I'll keep it simple - I have a balanced 16 count with a good spade stop, so 1NT. Double is somewhat crazy with a doubleton heart.

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Posted 2016-February-05, 01:37

View PostVixTD, on 2016-February-04, 08:22, said:

It's love all, matchpointed pairs:

Opponents play Acol, weak NT, four-card majors. What do you bid and why?

1NT for two reasons 1) The hand has the requirements for a 1NT overcall 15+ HCP and a double stop
in the enemy suit. 2) No other action is sensible.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 02:37

I chose pass as I think their system probably won't allow them to find their heart fit anyway, and if they are going to play spades or 1NT I am quite happy to defend even at this vulnerability.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 03:14

1nt is my choice.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 03:17

In 1936 S Garton Churchill said the correct bid is 2 spades.
He did not let conventions interfere with his ability to make the best bid.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 04:31

It's obviously 1NT. Why?A beginner will tell you because I have balanced 16hcp and stoppers on opp's suit.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 04:45

View Postcreatbid, on 2016-February-05, 04:31, said:

It's obviously 1NT. Why?A beginner will tell you because I have balanced 16hcp and stoppers on opp's suit.


Even so, Helene_t's passing still is a good option, that is a expert bidding strategy, to be exact, that may be a tactics of trap style.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 05:14

View Posthelene_t, on 2016-February-05, 02:37, said:

I chose pass as I think their system probably won't allow them to find their heart fit anyway, and if they are going to play spades or 1NT I am quite happy to defend even at this vulnerability.

I don't really follow this. The auction might go 1-P-1NT-P-P-P, in which case we're likely to get +50 rather than +90, or +100 rather than +120, or even +150 when we have play for +400.

Or it could go 1-P-1NT-P-2 or 2-P-P-P, when they are almost certainly in their best spot.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 05:24

View PostStevenG, on 2016-February-05, 05:14, said:

I don't really follow this. The auction might go 1-P-1NT-P-P-P, in which case we're likely to get +50 rather than +90, or +100 rather than +120, or even +150 when we have play for +400.

Or it could go 1-P-1NT-P-2 or 2-P-P-P, when they are almost certainly in their best spot.

Yeah, maybe you are right. I just thought that my hand screems defense with the QT of spades probably being worthless if I declare.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 07:21

I assume the hand illustrated is the South hand, not the East hand.

I might pass, and hope that the opponents (a) don't find a heart fit, and (b) get into a mess! This looks like a hand for defence.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 07:32

I passed, reasoning that I didn't have a great source of tricks, and that I was quite happy to defend 1X if partner can find a reopening double. I see I'm in a minority. It was passed out and beaten by one trick. It wasn't a good score, as partner had:

Thanks for your replies.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 07:50

View Posthelene_t, on 2016-February-05, 05:24, said:

Yeah, maybe you are right. I just thought that my hand screems defense with the QT of spades probably being worthless if I declare.


They're not pulling their full weight, but I don't think they're worthless. RHO is unlikely to have all the outstanding honours, and with any one of them, your holding looks worth a trick or two. If LHO has any, he's quite likely to lead the suit and help you at least clarify the position to make sure you get all the tricks in the suit to which you're entitled.
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Posted 2016-February-05, 11:30

1NT because it describes my hand.

If I have a two-suited hand and RHO opens the bidding in my longest suit and I have a strong hand then I can PASS and come into a live auction later by bidding my second suit. For example, 1-P-1-P // n-n shows a good hand with and longer . If my hand isn't good enough to do this then I either have to PASS or overcall in my other suit.
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