[dave_beer]

VixTD, on 2016-February-05, 07:32, said:

I passed, reasoning that I didn't have a great source of tricks, and that I was quite happy to defend 1♠X if partner can find a reopening double. I see I'm in a minority. It was passed out and beaten by one trick. It wasn't a good score, as partner had:

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Thanks for your replies.

Seems like partner could have opened 3♥ and certainly should have balanced with 2♥.

[Phil]

StevenG, on 2016-February-05, 05:14, said:

I don't really follow this. The auction might go 1♠-P-1NT-P-P-P, in which case we're likely to get +50 rather than +90, or +100 rather than +120, or even +150 when we have play for +400.

Or it could go 1♠-P-1NT-P-2♥ or 2♦-P-P-P, when they are almost certainly in their best spot.

1N - p - p is the best continuation you can hope for because now you can x which is a great description. If you pass, the continuation you dread is 2x by opener which freezes you out.

I'm kind of torn between pass and 1N personally.

[gordontd]

vmsmith, on 2016-February-05, 03:17, said:

In 1936 S Garton Churchill said the correct bid is 2 spades.
He did not let conventions interfere with his ability to make the best bid.

Things may have moved on in 80 years.

[mycroft]

mycroft, on 2016-February-04, 11:40, said:

Oh wait, did I not mention that I play K/S? And that "systems on" includes "rescue system on"? Yes, I have played 2♣ (for +5) after the auction 1♣-1NT-X-2♣ (anything else to play); p-p (forced)-p.

ggwhiz, on 2016-February-04, 12:38, said:

For a 1nt overcall? Very uncommon in my neck of the woods.

Sorry, I was riffing off your original statement. Obviously no, I don't play a weak NT overcall, even playing K/S. But we do play systems on *including our rescue system when doubled*, and the K/S bit was to try to explain that "why yes, we do have a reasonable rescue system".

Not sure why we decided to do that (probably because it was easier to remember, consistency, hobgoblin, etc.), but it is definitely to our advantage - we're in at least as much trouble after 1x-1NT (15+-18)-X as we are after 1NT (12-14)-X. Oh, and our rescue system allows us to play either 1NTx and 1NTxx when that's best as well.

Side note: we also play Keri, so we can get out in 2♦ after 1x-1NT-p, too. I play systems on playing standard (with other partners), not as a preference, but because that's what's "normal" around here (there are also those deviants that play NT systems on after 1NT-X-p; I have nothing to say to them, mostly because my eyes are rolled so far back into my head that my mouth can't open). I'd prefer Cuebid Stayman myself, because the chance of wanting to get out in anywhere is much higher after 1M-1NT-p than in 1NT-p; but nobody would remember that "only with me", so I follow the herd.

[ggwhiz]

I didn't mean to imply you overcalled 1nt with a weak one, just that playing the weak nt style run outs in this auction is unheard of here.

[ggwhiz]

I didn't mean to imply you overcalled 1nt with a weak one, just that playing the weak nt style run outs in this auction is unheard of here. Perhaps because anyone who plays ks and has multiple partners plays strong nt a lot.

It's a different debate but I REALLY dislike systems on after 1nt is doubled.

[VixTD]

dave_beer, on 2016-February-05, 11:35, said:

Seems like partner could have opened 3♥ and certainly should have balanced with 2♥.

Partner doesn't pre-empt. It's not that he's overly timid, or hasn't learned about them yet, he's one of the county's best players, but it's just not his style. We don't play weak twos, so we pass a lot of hands that others don't. We do play weak threes, but he's still more conservative than most players, and maybe even most players wouldn't open this hand.

I didn't mention this, because I wanted to know what you would all choose playing with a "normal" partner. I also wondered whether partner's first-round pass made a difference, but no one's mentioned this.

[zillahandp]

Pass if fixed stay fixed p has a voice to boot

[hrothgar]

I'm passing

If we set this two undoubled, we'll beat part scores.

If partner can balance with a double, we'll do even better.

[jmcilkley]

I can't see that there is any choice here, your only bid without lying to your partner is 1nt

[eagles123]

I would bid 1n, although pass obviously could work. X is obviously totally mental

[mike777]

VixTD, on 2016-February-05, 07:32, said:

I passed, reasoning that I didn't have a great source of tricks, and that I was quite happy to defend 1♠X if partner can find a reopening double. I see I'm in a minority. It was passed out and beaten by one trick. It wasn't a good score, as partner had:

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Thanks for your replies.

Of course pard cannot pass this hand nv in first seat letr alone in pass out seat.

If she is then we need to know that before we sit down please

As for the OP prefer 1nt, bidding to pass but I can understand pass.

[Vampyr]

dave_beer, on 2016-February-05, 11:35, said:

Seems like partner could have opened 3♥ and certainly should have balanced with 2♥.

I think that a 3♥ opening on this hand is disgusting. Balancing is pretty reasonable at matchpoints. Would probably do that, but would think twice if righty broke tempo. Balancing them into game is really annoying.

Phil, on 2016-February-05, 12:28, said:

1N - p - p is the best continuation you can hope for because now you can x which is a great description.

Is it? It sounds like a takeout double which has some flaw (probably too weak) that prevented you from doubling at your previous turn.,

[fromageGB]

Pass. The question was "what would you bid", not "what would a sensible bid be".

The sensible bid on this hand is 1NT natural, but I play 1NT as raptor over a major opening, as this is generally more useful in my opinion. 1NT is better here because
1) I can't see them playing in spades
2) partner will rescue to a long suit if he has one without strength.

[PhilG007]

VixTD, on 2016-February-04, 08:22, said:

It's love all, matchpointed pairs:

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Opponents play Acol, weak NT, four-card majors. What do you bid and why?

1NT in my sleep regardless of system. I have all the requisites 16+ points and a double stop
in the enemy suit. I'm not into trap passing......