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Settle a disagreement Encourage or discourage?

#1 User is offline   straube 

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Posted 2016-January-29, 09:53

After the auction 1C-1H, 2H-3N partner leads the D6

..........Dummy
..........983
..........K86
..........KJ
..........AQT93
........................Q64
........................Q953
........................82
........................J876

Declarer plays the DK. Do you...

encourage? "I don't want partner to switch to anything when he gets in"
discourage? "I don't have the queen and don't want partner to underlead his ace"
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Posted 2016-January-29, 09:57

Discourage. The most likely switch is spades and I am happy with that.
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Posted 2016-January-29, 10:03

View Posthelene_t, on 2016-January-29, 09:57, said:

Discourage. The most likely switch is spades and I am happy with that.


Does your signal show attitude about the suit lead (i.e. possession of the Q in this instance) or does it convey whether you desire a switch?
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Posted 2016-January-29, 10:18

View Poststraube, on 2016-January-29, 10:03, said:

Does your signal show attitude about the suit lead (i.e. possession of the Q in this instance) or does it convey whether you desire a switch?

In my opinion it primarily says that I don't have much in diamonds. I might encourage with a weak suit if I thought that it split badly for them and that the contract would go down on passive defense, but in general I don't see attitude signals as a command to partner. I just tell him if I have or do not have something in diamonds, and he can then use his judgment.
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Posted 2016-January-29, 10:44

Discourage
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Posted 2016-January-29, 22:28

I have no help in so I discourage and hope PD can then get it right.
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Posted 2016-January-30, 09:04

Discourage

Most opening leads are a probabilistic stab in the dark. Discouraging diamonds allows p to far more accurately assess where the best chance for success lies. P will be counting hcp in declarer's hand and trying to figure out where your (much more limited) HCP are. Accurately placing the dia Q (if p is not already looking at it) will help p create a clearer picture on what to do next.
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Posted 2016-January-30, 11:52

Discourage with the 8, but if the J was played, I'd play the 2 to show an even #.
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Posted 2016-January-30, 14:48

View PostPhil, on 2016-January-30, 11:52, said:

Discourage with the 8, but if the J was played, I'd play the 2 to show an even #.


Sorry if this doesn't belong to this forum.

Can you please elaborate on the full agreements? My guess is that if third hand can't beat dummy (or deliberately ducks), give attitude if dummy plays Q or higher, or count on J or lower from dummy, right? In the event of a deliberate duck on the play of a small card, does the subsequent Smith echo clarify the attitude towards the opening lead, or does count specifically apply to the J winning scenario?
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Posted 2016-January-30, 16:58

Some play if dummy wins Q or higher and some play J. The most critical case seems like:

Qx
KTxxx. J9x
Axx
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