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How to bid this? just out of interest.

#1 User is offline   oryctolagi 

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Posted 2016-January-26, 13:57

Dealer West, E-W vulnerable.

Assume Benji. Well, assume any system you like, but we were playing Benji. No bids from opponents.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 14:50

If I can assume any system I want, I will use mine.

P-P-P-1 start.

Responder raises to 2.

Opener bids 3 naturally, usually slammish but possibly GT.

Responder bids 3NT, a super-accept of clubs.

Opener bids 4 to ask about details.

From this point forward, pick your grand...



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Posted 2016-January-26, 17:03

My methods would be 1 - 2 showing a constructive spade raise then,

3 - 3
3 - 4 and away we go, to at least but maybe only to 6 but....

4 - 6 from the hand that has promised 3 spades already should get us there.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 17:07

I think if youre playing benji

2c 2d 3s cue cue blah blah grand
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Posted 2016-January-26, 20:48

Hand is no more than a 4 loser hand, so able to open strong 2 .

2 - 2 (waiting)
2 - 3

Showing 8+ and Hxx or xxxx in

3 NT

Starts cueing denies 1st round control

..... 4 (1st round control)

4 (1st round control, no 1st round control)

..... 4 NT (waiting bid, not RKCB, still interested in slam)

6 (2nd round controls in , , and , 3rd round control, no 3rd round control)

Note must be solid. With a potential loser and missing A, opener wouldn't go past 5 .

..... 6 (1st round control)

6 (3rd round control - focusing attention on potential loser)

..... 7 ( Looks like I've got you covered.)
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Posted 2016-January-26, 23:52

ok here is the much less complicated way
2c=2d(art gf)
2s=3s(something extra)
5h=6c( 2deny Qs...5h=exclusion)
7s

on this simple auction you miss 7c when it is better
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Posted 2016-January-27, 04:15

Thanks for the replies so far - most interesting. It goes to show, I've got a lot to learn about accurate bidding! :unsure:

This hand cropped up on BBO, dupl IMPs.

At our table I opened 2 and partner responded 2NT which I took to mean game try (is 3 better?) - anyway we ended in 6 :( . But out of the sixteen tables played, only one bid the Grand - in spades - and somehow contrived to go down, I'm perplexed as to how: since there were no first-round ruffs for defence, the Grand was a laydown.

We were one of only two tables to reach six. I don't regard my bidding as my strong side, so I was fairly chuffed with that. :)
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Posted 2016-January-27, 04:19

3c from partner would show a better suit than this.

2nt is fine by him - it should show a balanced positive (game force).
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Posted 2016-January-31, 08:03

2/1
1-P-2-P
3-P-3-P
3-P-4-P
4-P-4-P
4N
2 Keys without
7

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Posted 2016-January-31, 13:48

View Postoryctolagi, on 2016-January-26, 13:57, said:

Dealer West, E-W vulnerable.

Assume Benji. Well, assume any system you like, but we were playing Benji. No bids from opponents.


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Posted 2016-February-01, 00:07

1 2
3 (long suit trial) 3 Cue, shows clubs and 1st or 2nd round control of 's but not a singleton or void
3* 4*
4* 4 Nothing to add denies heart k or singleton
5c* 5 Third round control, either HQx or Hx
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* cues
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Posted 2016-February-02, 06:54

I would start with 2 and miss the grand unless I am inspired enough to bid 5 over 3 raise.
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