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Posted 2016-January-26, 11:48

I couldn't find the relevant law - I wish my lawbook had a better index. :)

Playing a dubious pseudo-squeeze on Sunday, the last three cards in my hand when I led my last trump () were A4 and A. I think it was fairly clear to everyone that I had the aces, but spades had not been played before and LHO had a bit of a problem with Qx and Kx (K had already been played, and dummy had Qx). After a bit of thought he made the wrong choice and threw a , with the result that after A and A his partner won the last trick with 7. Now, of course, LHO claimed that his discard was a deliberate unblock in order to allow his partner to score the beer card...

So who should get the beer?
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Posted 2016-January-26, 13:23

View PostWellSpyder, on 2016-January-26, 11:48, said:

So who should get the beer?


Me, I'll send you my address.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 13:35

I would rule that because you aren't allowed to risk tricks to score the beer, the partner gets it in this case. If it was a different scenario and it was known that unblocking could allow partner to win the last trick with the beer, then I would allow them to claim it, but here, how could the defender know you have A4 and not A7 (or better).
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Posted 2016-January-26, 16:33

I thought the person who gets the beer is always the person who scored the beer card. Also, it's 2 beers in this case.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 20:44

I agree with mgoetze that only the person who scores the beer card gets the beer. But the OP didn't mention the result -- as I understand it to get a beer you have to get a plus score. (Which leads to the question, what if you get positive IMPs or an above-average MP score for going down in a sacrifice in which you win trick 13 with the beer card?)
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Posted 2016-January-27, 02:45

View Postbixby, on 2016-January-26, 20:44, said:

I agree with mgoetze that only the person who scores the beer card gets the beer. But the OP didn't mention the result -- as I understand it to get a beer you have to get a plus score. (Which leads to the question, what if you get positive IMPs or an above-average MP score for going down in a sacrifice in which you win trick 13 with the beer card?)

It doesn't lead to that question. If you are playing the contract then you must make it, if you are defending then you have to beat it.
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Posted 2016-January-27, 02:48

View PostWellSpyder, on 2016-January-26, 11:48, said:

Now, of course, LHO claimed that his discard was a deliberate unblock in order to allow his partner to score the beer card...

So who should get the beer?

Unblocking in order to buy your partner a beer deserves a psych exam.
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Posted 2016-January-27, 03:18

View Postbixby, on 2016-January-26, 20:44, said:

the OP didn't mention the result -- as I understand it to get a beer you have to get a plus score.

D7 at trick 13 was the second under-trick, so the defender did indeed get a plus score.
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